'The Mindy Project' says goodbye to Stephen Tobolowsky
Character actor phased out as part of ongoing retool of freshman FOX sitcom
Stephen Tobolowsky, left, has been dropped as a regular on "The Mindy Project."
As a long-time fan of Stephen Tobolowsky as both a character actor ("Bing!") and as a brilliant podcast host (and now author of a book, "The Dangerous Animals Club," inspired by said podcast), I was excited to see him added to the cast of "The Mindy Project," replacing Richard Schiff as Dr. Marc Shulman, the boss at the OB/GYN practice where Mindy, Danny and Jeremy work.
But after a couple of brief appearances in the pilot, and then a slightly more prominent role in the second episode, "Hiring and Firing," Tobolowsky ceased appearing on the show. "The Mindy Project" has, like many freshman comedies, been figuring itself out as it goes along, and making cast changes has been a part of that. Recently, it was announced that Amanda Setton, who plays Shauna the receptionist, would be leaving the show, while Anna Camp (Mindy's best friend Gwen) would be downgraded to a recurring guest star. And last night's episode opened with Mindy and the others getting a note that Dr. Shulman had decided to retire, leaving the practice in their hands. It wasn't quite Poochie dying on the way back to his home planet, in that Tobolowsky recorded a voiceover version of the note, but it was still incredibly abrupt.
I emailed Tobolowsky to ask what had happened, and this is what he wrote:
As to not being on The Mindy Project, the decision was theirs. We began shooting the first two episodes. There seemed to be excitement over what we were doing. The scenes seemed to work on the stage. Mindy seemed happy. Michael Spiller our director seemed happy. I am always cautious when you do a comedy as to how things cut together. Sometimes scenes that work on the stage don't work in the final edit.
A week or so later I heard we were shooting some extra coverage for the office scenes. I got a new script two days before we were to reshoot. My heart sank. My part was rewritten. Most of the jokes were gone. The part was far less whimsical and more perfunctory.
We did the reshoots. I felt they worked fine. I wasn't in the thanksgiving show. That was a bad sign. I was told that they wanted Dr. Shulman to be more of an authoritarian. Then I was told that they didn't really want Mindy to have a boss in the office. Then Mindy told me I was being written out of the show.
Everyone told me they loved me. They told me they were fans. All of the things you expect to hear when you have been taken off of a show. I certainly hope I didn't stink up the joint. It takes a writer and a team of writers a good deal of time to create the chemistry of characters to make a show. It is always dangerous when you start changing everything on the fly.
I don't think anything untoward happened. I suspect I was a casualty of a show meeting many different demands from different sources. The people involved were very talented. I hope they succeed. On the plus side I have had more time to devote to my book tour for The Dangerous Animals Club.
I reached out to "Mindy" executive producer Matt Warburton to confirm that the decision was ultimately about Mindy not having a boss, and why, and he wrote:
We really love Stephen and Dr. Shulman was one of the writers' very favorite characters to write for. We ended up realizing that Mindy would have more interesting challenges at the workplace if she didn't have an avuncular figure to go to for mediation. She has to take on problems with Danny and Jeremy on her own. Then the three of them have to work together to solve problems for the practice which leads to more interesting territory, story-wise.
I didn't think last night's episode was one of the stronger ones they've done this season (despite the presence of filmmaking brothers Mark and Jay Duplass as the midwives upstairs), in that too much of it leaned on Danny being a macho idiot because that's what the story demanded. That said, given how long it had been since we'd seen Shulman, in both the good episodes (like last week's excellent "Teen Patient") and the lesser ones, the writers had already effectively taken Mindy's boss away. I was happy to see Tobolowsky in a regular TV role again, but the fit here ultimately wasn't right.
What does everybody else fit? Would you rather have gotten more Shulman, or do you think the lack of an authority figure makes more sense in the long-term?
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December 5, 2012 at 2:56PM EST Reply to CommentSince Mindy worked on The Office from the start, it's a little surprising she's done such a poor job of adding meat to the bones of many supporting characters and couldn't handle balancing a relatively large ensemble. Seems like she went with the larger cast in the first place because that's what she knows, but found it easier to write for fewer characters now that she's in charge.
Some Guy You have to remember, though, that in the early days of The Office, none of the minor characters like Phyllis, Stanley, Kevin, Creed, Kelly etc. were fleshed out either. It wasn't until into the second season that they started being given things to do and the writers began figuring out interesting/funny places to take them.
December 5, 2012 at 11:12PM ESTIt's like this with most ensemble comedies. At the start, only a few leads will have somewhat developed characters and the supporting cast will be cut-outs or caricatures. With time they work out how to incorporate them into the show or they cut them out (they never figured out what to do with Mark Brendanawicz on Parks and Rec for example). Only in very rare instances (like with Arrested Development) will the show be fully formed from the outset. Give the show time, they're only 8 episodes into their first season.
pamelajaye funny you mention Ken. I was thinking that firing Tobolowski was not nearly as hard or stupid than being made to fire the Male Lead in your Romantic Comedy (Kevin Kilner -Almost Perfect). Stupid idea, Moonves
December 6, 2012 at 2:49AM ESTpamelajaye let's pretend that reply went where I attempted to post it.
December 6, 2012 at 2:50AM ESTRicardo
December 5, 2012 at 2:56PM EST Reply to CommentStephen Tobolowsky is a great actor. If they didn't figure out how to use him, it's they're loss.
Unfortunately, I think he's one of those guys who was never given the role to make the jump. Here's hoping he gets that someday - soon!
PotatoSolution Agreed, hopefully this means he will land a show that's better than The Mindy Project.
December 5, 2012 at 5:51PM ESTPerhaps TMP will have a second-season jump in quality like Parks and Recreation. We shall see.
Chris
December 5, 2012 at 2:56PM EST Reply to CommentI really liked Dr. Shulman's character, but it does make sense that the writers didn't want Mindy to have a boss. I also think that perhaps the writers were hoping to answer concerns that Mindy wasn't serious about her work. Critics of the show have mentioned that Mindy doesn't seem to be together enough to be a doctor. But, I really like that Mindy is a mess while still being a good doctor. I think the show is just trying to figure out if it is more of a workplace show or a group of friends hanging out. I hope it stays around long enough for it to find its footing.
Morc The show has its moments, but overall it's a bit of a mess right now. I agree that there are way too many characters that don't seem to add to the overall chemistry. Hopefully they figure it all out soon.
December 5, 2012 at 3:25PM ESTHank Scorpio I can buy a doctor whose personal life is a mess because she is so focused on work, but Mindy seems too focused on her personal life - to the point that she sometimes ditches work. I agree with the poster suggesting a high school may have been a better setting.
December 5, 2012 at 3:44PM ESTKmarko
December 5, 2012 at 2:59PM EST Reply to CommentHmmm. Well, I like the guy. On balance, I think I would have preferred seeing how the character played for awhile--as it is, there's no way of knowing. Generally speaking, I'm a fan of there be a couple of older characters on a sitcom to provide a bit of balance. Point's moo, I guess.
Col Bat Guano That's a cow's opinion.
December 5, 2012 at 4:50PM ESTDryden
December 5, 2012 at 3:11PM EST Reply to CommentStephen Tobolowky is such a versatile actor he can make almost anything work. If you can't write for him, you probably shouldn't be writing comedy.
gabavesce THIS!
December 5, 2012 at 4:50PM ESTa Agreed
December 5, 2012 at 6:08PM ESTmaria I totally agree. I was very disappointed that they wrote him out.
December 6, 2012 at 1:28AM ESTJoseph Well they did say pretty clearly that the writers loved writing for him.
December 6, 2012 at 4:09PM ESTJesse
December 5, 2012 at 3:12PM EST Reply to CommentI agree with their decision, although Tobolowsky is great in everything. I also thought it was wise to cut Anna Camp (her character doesn't add much) and frankly unless they figure out something more to do with the British doctor, I wouldn't mind losing him too.
Sean Much like I'd like to see Rashida Jones (Ann) written out of Parks and Rec
February 3, 2013 at 7:20AM ESTSwedge
December 5, 2012 at 3:14PM EST Reply to CommentTobolowsky provided a small but important dose of realism on the show.
erika_herzog
December 5, 2012 at 3:14PM EST Reply to Commentagree that the writers had effectively written Tobolowsky out -- was a bit jarring and unnecessary to have the dear john letter setup. but oh well....
the show is so much stronger than it was. is a show i am coming to look forward to watching every week.
re: the Duplasses, i hope will stick around. such fun! though i wasn't 100% on board for the slam of midwifery it gave Mindy some nice scenes.
good to see Michael Hyatt (Brianna Barksdale!) as the admin upstairs. always love her....
khoi Was no one else disturbed by how terribly this episode slandered midwifery? I was shocked, because I think a big part of the show's audience is probably sympathetic to the idea of natural childbirth. I've been a big fan of the show thus far, even though it's been uneven, so I'm disappointed that this episode was so wrongheaded and uneducated on this subject. Big demerit.
December 8, 2012 at 12:47AM ESTmilaxx
December 5, 2012 at 3:20PM EST Reply to CommentI like Stephen Tobolowsky, but last night felt like a move in the right direction for the show. When Mindy left shopping with the girls to go and fix the situation it made sense to me. This was one of the best eps for me sine the show began.
Pro Shulman
December 5, 2012 at 3:26PM EST Reply to CommentI'll miss Shulman and his wishy-washy personality. Instead of jettisoning Tobolowsky, I would have preferred if the writers had not panicked and attempted to retool his character--not such a giant leap since Shulman had little exposure.
Cousin Larry Appleton
December 5, 2012 at 3:30PM EST Reply to CommentAm I missing something here? Although I like Tobolowsky quite a bit, how does anybody have any reaction to the *character* at all? I forgot he even *was* part of the show to be honest.
All in all I'm losing faith and patience with this show. It just seems like it doesn't know what it wants to be. I second Alan's suggestion from last week that they should re-tool it as "Mindy the Guidance Counselor" and drop everybody but Mindy, Danny and Morgan. I would not be sad to see the hospital setting, the British doctor and the ditzy receptionist go.
Cody The more I think about it, the guidance counselor set-up could be fantastic. A counselor who is just as immature as the students has tons of potential and the character of Danny could work just as well as a teacher. I could easily see the other characters fitting in as well Morgan as a gym teacher, Betsy as a receptionist. Hell, you could even keep Tobolowsky around as the principal.
December 5, 2012 at 3:59PM ESTThe excuse for dropping Tobolowsky seems to address what I think one of the main issues with the show is; it keeps trying way too hard to make Mindy seem like the funniest, smartest (yet endearingly flawed & unlucky in love) woman out there who shouldn't have to answer to anyone. The show has a great writing staff, some incredibly strong cast members and makes me laugh out loud on occasion, but it really needs to find a better focus and make Mindy a little more personable. I know that sounds stupid coming from a guy in his 20's, but Lena Dunham managed to make me sympathize with all of her characters.
Best of luck to Tobolowsky in the future. Maybe his podcast and book will continue to succeed and we can someday get a "Louie"-esque Tobolowsky show on cable.
Col Bat Guano I have to agree that Tobolowsky wasn't on the show long enough to develop any attachment to the character. He might have been great, but there isn't enough evidence to say that for sure. The show is still flailing a bit, but then almost all comedies do in their first year so I will keep watching hoping they figure it out.
December 5, 2012 at 4:53PM ESTSara Agree on all fronts here. The jokes are great, but a majority of the laughs are given to Mindy and Danny. Take out the hospital setting (is anyone even doing research for this part of the show?). Change out all of the secondary characters except Morgan.
December 5, 2012 at 5:37PM ESTI think it's much more interesting for Mindy to be a guidance counselor in the sense that she maybe gives out great advice but she can't manage her own life or expectations. I think having Mindy as an OBGYN was a purely feminist move -- Look! I'm a smart doctor woman! -- and not a creative one. (I say this as a feminist female in her late 20s.) The job doesn't lend itself to jokes... and if this is going to be a workplace comedy, the workplace needs to be funny.
Kevin I too am surprised to see peoplel saying they'll miss the Shulman character. For the amount of screen time it had, the part could've been played by anyone. It wasn't given a chance to register in any way. Stephen may typically be great at what he does, but there was nothing to really judge him by on this show.
December 6, 2012 at 10:08AM ESTforg I agree his character barely existed at all! I don't like Morgan as well. This show really has weak supporting cast or rather characters. Anna Camp who is a great talent is so wasted here
December 8, 2012 at 3:19AM ESTkeith
December 5, 2012 at 3:36PM EST Reply to CommentStephen's e-mail was great. So refreshingly honest. Gotta hand it to him and you, Stepper for going and getting it. (Guess who?)
mrbilliam I've probably only listened to 4-5 of his podcasts, but I could absolutely hear his voice in that email. It was all the same mannerisms that he uses when telling stories in his podcast.
December 5, 2012 at 9:52PM ESTchuchundra
December 5, 2012 at 3:49PM EST Reply to CommentI've been meaning to check back in on The Mindy Project and see if it managed to turn itself into a show I might want to watch, but now I doubt I'll bother.
Jill Pinnella Corso
December 5, 2012 at 3:58PM EST Reply to CommentI am sorry for the actor but I did not like the character; he was too generic. I think when they brought him in, they were trying to transform it from an all-about-Mindy show to more of a workplace ensemble comedy, and then they seemed to drift back toward her dating life again. I guess they'll figure it out one way or another.
I agree that Gwen doesn't need to be a regular. I like Shauna but I won't miss her.
gabavesce
December 5, 2012 at 4:30PM EST Reply to CommentKaling fired the only actor on the show skilled at comedy and drama. The show is a disaster, and last night's 1.3 rating is further evidence of that.
Fritanga
December 5, 2012 at 4:37PM EST Reply to CommentThey can retool it all they want. It will still be a terrible sitcom. The premise is ludicrous: accomplished doctor acts like a petulant teenager in her personal life. Bleh. It's worse than Girls - at least they have age as an excuse.
Some Guy I personally know an accomplished doctor (also, coincidentally, an OB/GYN) who is an immature jackass in real life, and he is older than Kaling. Being an emotionally stunted weirdo does not prevent you from being a doctor.
December 5, 2012 at 11:24PM ESTTimb Weird that people continue o see doctors as superhuman, when they are obviously not. Didn't anyone here ever see Scrubs?
December 13, 2012 at 11:04PM ESTisaiah
December 5, 2012 at 4:37PM EST Reply to CommentI think the show is slowly imploding and Mindy and company are just doing whatever they can think of to salvage it. Tobolowsky could have been one of their most valuable resources (so could've Schiff, for that matter, dunno what happened there), but since they haven't even been able to get the core gang working smoothly I think they're wise to focus in the way they seem to be doing.
gabavesce
December 5, 2012 at 4:46PM EST Reply to CommentThat's a piss-poor, mealymouthed response from Matt Warburton. Tobolowsky's character was never avuncular, but was written as bumbling. They could easily have made him ANOTHER obstacle in Mindy's path, heightening the conflict and the comedy.
And any fan's of Billy Wilder's THE APARTMENT should get a good chuckle (at Warburton's expense) of his use of "story-wise." Yeesh.
M
December 5, 2012 at 4:49PM EST Reply to CommentI've been wondering what was going on with his status on the show. He hasn't been on it since the second episode and the press reports of the cast changes didn't mention him at all.
Frankly, none of the behind the scenes changes have made any sense on this show. Over the summer they redid the pilot to add Tobolowsky and Amanda Setton. Tobolowsky was clearly taking over for Richard Schiff, but given how easy a replacement it was, it was clear the show didn't need that character. Ditto for Setton who was redundant as the receptionist (they already had Zoe Jarman) and as a friend (they already had Anna Camp.) I'm still scratching my head over the addition of the Morgan character since the cast is clearly overstuffed and the cast is so largely male already.
thatmadlibs I at least find Morgan to be less one dimensional of a character as both the male doctors, whom I could gladly never seen again on my tv.
December 5, 2012 at 5:13PM ESTXK
December 5, 2012 at 4:51PM EST Reply to CommentI wanted to like the show, but my household dropped it already. I think Mindy as a person can be funny, but I think her character is the weakest part of the show.
David David posting.I loved every episode of this show so far. I thought that the writing was just superb and could relate to these characters the british character is a little rigid but think they're all hilarious. When I saw the pilot I was so impressed, it seemed to me like they were working together for more than one season. I thought tobolowsky's character should've been given a chance. Also, all the episodes revolved around Mindy, which is a plus for me. Also, the writer and actors do a good job of making me feel like these could be real people except that they get themselves in more exaggeratted versions of real situations that normal people do. Its very interesting to read everyone's opinion on the show, couldn't complain at all. I find Mindy insatiable but moving forward they should definetly focus on bulding some more character development with the rest of the cast and not worry about what hat might mean in the long run.
January 5, 2013 at 1:23AM ESTjim
December 5, 2012 at 5:00PM EST Reply to CommentThis show reminds me of sitcoms and movies where the male lead has a hot wife or girlfriend that is just waaaaaaayy out of his league. Adam Sandler and Selma Hayek in Grown Ups. Kevin James and Leah Remini in King of Queens, just not believable. Now we have Mindy with all these guys chasing her...her, she`s not even remotely attractive at all. Even her voice is annoying. Everyone has their own taste and likes and I know this post is somewhat mean but I`m sorry I just dont find it believable.
gabavesce Physicality aside, Kaling mumbles half her lines, and is not a very good actress. She was limited to a handful of lines on THE OFFICE, as Greg Daniels knew exactly how to deploy her.
December 5, 2012 at 5:15PM ESTKen Levine -- who wrote for CHEERS, MASH, FRASIER and THE SIMPSONS -- suggested a few weeks ago on his blog that Kaling simply cannot carry a show.
He's right. Here's his post: http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-mindy-project-review.html
Timb What a ridiculous comment. If Kevin James can have a show for seven seasons, the Mindy Kaling, who is both smart and funny, should be on one for ten.
December 13, 2012 at 11:08PM ESTChampSkins
December 5, 2012 at 5:03PM EST Reply to CommentThis show is an absolute disaster. Really surprising too considering many of the actors on it are really good and Kaling was once upon a time a great writer for the Office. Not really sure where the show went wrong, but its just not good.
Josh has weirdly become the most consistent and funniest character on the show.
Good job getting the email from Stephen, Alan. Really refreshing for us fans of TV to get honest responses like that one.
BigTed
December 5, 2012 at 5:25PM EST Reply to CommentI wonder if there was pressure to make this more of a "youth" show, since Shulman was just about the only character older than 30ish. But since Mindy's character tends to act like a 17-year-old (and her partners aren't much more thoughtful), I thought balancing things out with someone more mature made sense.
Joe But the "youth" don't watch TV shows. They're too long to keep their attention. Sitcoms should all become 90-second shorts if they are to keep he attention of the average kid today.
December 6, 2012 at 1:50PM ESTdreamsicle
December 5, 2012 at 9:44PM EST Reply to CommentThe British doctor should get the boot. Honestly, Dr. Shulman was MIA for so long, I'd forgotten about him.
Mindy is much funnier & more interesting when the show focuses on her personal life. Love the interaction between Mindy and her BF. Aside from the nurse who is an ex-con (?), the office stuff is mostly a snooze.
The show is wildly uneven, but I'm sticking with it for now because I really like Mindy and find her funny. The best episode to date was last week's show when Mindy gave her condom speech to the high school volleyball team.
gladly I think that's exactly my problem with the show: no one at the practice office is all that interesting except Morgan. British doctor and Danny are boring verging on unlikeable. But, the writers can write well--Josh is a good character with some edge who's still likeable.
December 6, 2012 at 10:39AM ESTAnd, this week, the DuPlass brothers (Mark especially) were much, much more fun than British doctor and Danny. I honestly don't think Shulman is the problem: it's the rest of the practice staff. I think the show could reset itself if Mindy were to move to a new office. Then again, with such low ratings, what's the point?
Lbsammills51
December 6, 2012 at 3:03AM EST Reply to CommentThe thing I've found weird about Stephen Tobolowsky's character/performance, and now Anna Camp's, to a lesser extent (Amanda Setton falls in this category a bit too), is that neither was given a chance to fail to connect with the other characters/actors on the show before being written off. I can understand getting rid of them this early if it was clear this early it just wasn't working, but they never had that chance.
I do still enjoy the show and imagine I will continue to since I've liked the past few eps, but this is still a little weird.
LJA
December 6, 2012 at 4:54PM EST Reply to CommentI feel like they really don't have a grasp on this show at all yet. Every time I watch, it "feels" different than the last time I watched. I supposed that can be chalked up to continual retooling, but I'm not sure that's the way to build an audience. Several of my friends have given up on it.
DB Cooper
December 6, 2012 at 5:03PM EST Reply to CommentMindy Kaling is being exposed here. She's way over her head, and frankly overrated. I'm not sure why she was deemed talented enough to run a show, but throwing out Stephen Tobolowsky is a really bad sign.
Guest Kaling can't act period
December 7, 2012 at 3:21AM ESTkhoi I can't disagree enough. She's still rough, but brilliant. I'm consistently amazed by her, even if the show does seem to be taking a long time to work itself out.
December 8, 2012 at 12:44AM ESTforg
December 8, 2012 at 3:28AM EST Reply to CommentThe show is living up to its original title "It's Messy". To be fair, I like the pilot and last week's ep was great but the show is such a work in progress and given its anemic ratings I don't think it has enough time to figure itself out. Heck, even ABC's The Neighbors found its footing (I know this blog's commenters is not the show's audience but after that awful pilot the show found its groove)
Johnny
December 8, 2012 at 7:59AM EST Reply to CommentI've never watched the show until this week. I rather enjoyed it, in a low key way, but the super hot receptionist leaving? She may have kept me coming back. Sad she's a casualty.