Silliness reigns with 2013 Golden Globe TV nominations that include 'Smash' & 'The Newsroom'
No 'Mad Men'? Hayden Panettiere?
Olivia Munn and Jeff Daniels in "The Newsroom," which the Golden Globes voters nominated ahead of "Mad Men" as one of TV's best dramas.
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I ordinarily like to begin my analysis of the Golden Globe TV nominations by going on at length about the sketchiness of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association and their complete disinterest in and lack of qualification for making any kind of judgment of American television.
This year, though, I think all I need to tell you is the following:
1)The HFPA didn't think "Mad Men" was one of the five best dramas on television in 2012.
2)The HFPA thinks "The Newsroom" was one of the five best dramas on television in 2012.
3)The HFPA thinks "Smash" was a better show than "Parks and Recreation" and "Louie."
4)The HFPA thinks Hayden Panettiere is giving one of the five best performances by a supporting actress in all of television.
So, yeah. The Golden Globes!
Do not attempt to find any kind of logic in their decision-making. Just enjoy the massive amounts of unintentional comedy they provide us, year after year after silly year.
For the sake of amusement, though, let's take a category-by-category look at their ongoing series nominations:
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
Hayden Panettiere, "Nashville"
Archie Panjabi, "The Good Wife"
Sarah Paulson, "Game Change"
Maggie Smith, "Downton Abbey"
Sofia Vergara, "Modern Family"
Because the HFPA only cares about the TV nominations as an excuse to get more actors into the ballroom, and to help fill out the middle section of the awards show, they don't even bother with separate supporting categories by genre. Instead, you have a sitcom actress like Vergara competing against a dramatic actress like Panjabi and an actress in a TV-movie like Paulson. And you have them all competing against Panettiere, who isn't terrible on "Nashville," by any means, but fits the Piper Perabo/Keri Russell/Pia Zadora tradition of the Golden Globes being drawn to attractive young starlets whenever possible.
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
Nice as it may be to see Patinkin recognized by the HFPA when the Emmys didn't, this is a category that for some reason features Danny Huston — there entirely because he's part of a showbiz dynasty — over Aaron Paul, Jonathan Banks, Jared Harris, John Slattery and Peter Dinklage, to name just a few potential superior nominees from the world of drama.
This is an almost shockingly reasonable collection of nominees, particularly since this would have been a very easy place for HFPA to include Katharine McPhee, who fits their young beauty requirements and is part of a show they approved of otherwise.
The HFPA loves movie stars doing TV (hence Cheadle), and they love inside-showbiz stories, particularly one like "Episodes" that's told from the point of view of foreigners struggling to understand the mysterious ways of Hollywood (hence LeBlanc). That Louis C.K. was nominated is, frankly, far more stunning than any of the year's goofier nominations, as his show is the exact opposite (small, cheap, intentionally grubby) of the sort of thing HFPA tends to go for.
HFPA never knew that "Friday Night Lights" existed, but now that Britton's in an inside-showbiz show? Come on down, y'all! Besides Mrs. Coach, it's a pretty straightforward collection of nominees, including Globe perennial Close for the final "Damages" season.
This is the exact same list that the Screen Actors Guild gave us on Wednesday with their nominations.
Best Television Series - Comedy Or Musical
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Next 85 CommentsJacob
December 13, 2012 at 10:54AM EST Reply to CommentGiven their whole purpose, I'd say it's wise to not get too bothered by award shows. Especially if it's just the Golden Globes.
Though yeah, a handful of the TV noms, where not predictable, were pretty stupid.
rugman11 The Golden Globes are especially bad since, ostensibly, the other shows are entertainers recognizing each other, whereas the Golden Globes are designed solely so that HFPA journalists can bump elbows with celebrities and pretty, young actresses.
December 13, 2012 at 3:02PM ESTRichard
December 13, 2012 at 10:57AM EST Reply to CommentEveryone knows that the Globes are worthless garbage at this point, right? The actors and producers are all pretending that they mean something just for the career boost, but no one is ACTUALLY proud to win one.
I believe The Golden Globes are below the MTV Movie Awards and the People's Choice Awards by now.
joel Let's hate on the Golden Globes because they certainly deserve it, but no awards show are as pointless or meaningless as the MTV Movie Awards and Peoples Choice Awards. Any award show that routinely christens the Twilight films or Big Bang Theory as the Best of the Best should just be laughed out of this conversation.
December 13, 2012 at 11:17AM ESTRicardo
December 13, 2012 at 10:57AM EST Reply to CommentIt's always sad when Mad Men doesn't win / get nominated.
laurence2174 Even sadder that Hayden Panettiere is apparently a better actress than Christina Hendricks now, according to HFPA.
December 13, 2012 at 11:26AM ESTbuckbeat You mean younger actress.
December 13, 2012 at 12:46PM ESTRazorback
December 13, 2012 at 10:58AM EST Reply to CommentThe People's Choice Awards are more meaningful than the Golden Globes... and that's not saying much.
joel More meaningful how? In that giving the people a say means that Twilight is the best film of the year? The Peoples Choice is The Biggest Money Earners. I can figure out what will win those awards simply by going to Box Office Mojo and the Neilsens.
December 13, 2012 at 11:20AM ESTAs much as I hate the Globes, they have more meaning than the Peoples Choice.
Some Guy I dunno, the general public may have bad taste, but there is at least some slim value to acknowledging popularity where film and tv is concerned- after all, entertaining large numbers of people is one of the main points of film and tv (also, note that they don't claim their winners are the "best" but rather the "favourites").
December 13, 2012 at 11:56AM ESTThe Golden Globes, on the other hand, pretend to have meaning, they pretend to be prestigious and, as you say, "christen the Best", while they are actually voted on by a small group of individuals with no authority on quality and who are easily manipulated by outside factors. The People's Choice means these films were popular, the Golden Globes mean nothing at all.
joel I dunno either, because if we took the public's tastes and mass popularity as our barometers of quality then TV shows like Law and Order, CSI, or 24 would always win out over The Wire or Deadwood or even Mad Men or Breaking Bad. And maybe those shows aren't bad, but they certainly aren't anything I need to watch with any effort or thought, and they certainly don't have much to say beyond "crime is bad, justice is good." By the same token of success, films like Transformers 1, 2, and 3 or the Twilight Series or Harry Potter would be considered much better due to their box office numbers than films like Goodfellas or Pulp Fiction or No Country for Old Men. Do you really want to live in a world where Goodfellas is drowned out by Twilight: New Dawn?
December 13, 2012 at 4:53PM ESTPopularity has its merits, sure, but when I'd prefer to think quality and value are something that don't come at the automatic value of mass appeal. You can have your Peoples Choice Awards and enjoy the fruits of them, but I'd sooner watch the any of the Globe nominees over and over again, even the bad ones, then be forced to sit through predictable simplistic fare like Two and Half Men or Twilight more than once.
BrettPoker
December 13, 2012 at 11:04AM EST Reply to CommentI personally thought this was the weakest Mad Men season to date. Though I don't agree with The Newsroom being nominated, I feel less inclined to feel bad about the Mad Men slight.
Paul Outlaw The weakest Mad Men season (not necessarily Season Five, by the way) is considerably stronger than most shows on television, including several of the Golden Globe nominees.
December 13, 2012 at 1:23PM ESTBrettPoker Before this past season, I would've agreed with you.
December 13, 2012 at 1:24PM ESTAdam K
December 13, 2012 at 11:07AM EST Reply to CommentMad Mad has an awful season this last season. I love the show but Season 5 was straight up boring and dull. It had it moments but I'm glad someone with some power got up and said "Eff You Mad Men. If you want a nomination you have to earn it and not ride on your past success" I never understand why critics loved Mad Men this year, especially when one of the talking points with a 5 second action of Don kissing Peggy;s hand. Megan ruined the first half of Season 5 and luckily Jessica Pare received no nominations whatsoever- even from the Emmys. I didnt see Newsroom and Mad Men is probably better than The Newsroom but I'm fine with any list that doesn't have Mad Men on it.
Adam K Also, I should probably proof read these things before I post. My bad.
December 13, 2012 at 11:09AM ESTPaul Outlaw Crazy talk.
December 13, 2012 at 1:24PM ESTB
December 13, 2012 at 11:10AM EST Reply to CommentThe Mad Men one is pretty stunning...Jon Hamm's going to be feeling very lonely this year. I guess they weren't down with MegaDon. That's got sting for Weiner.
Adam K
December 13, 2012 at 11:13AM EST Reply to CommentThe bigger snub is Game of Thrones. First the SAG and now this? That seems silly.
velouria These nominations are terrible, but so was Game of Thrones season two. A completely justified snub if there ever was one.
December 13, 2012 at 11:50AM ESTWeez ^ Yeah, it was pretty terrible - if you consider an excellent ensemble cast, great writing, and fantastic production values that include everything from cinematography to set design and costumes to be "terrible". The snub is ridiculous, and the fact that The Newsroom and Downtown Abbey were nominated in lieu of Game of Thrones and Mad Men is a joke.
December 13, 2012 at 1:01PM ESTAnd honestly, even Breaking Bad could have been replaced with Justified. I love BB, but this past season wasn't very good. The entire premiere was a waste (other than the cold open); there was a distinct lack of meaningful character development/character interactions; Jesse was not only underused (as was Saul, Marie, and Hank), but nearly became a caricature of himself; both Walt's and Skyler's 'transformations' seemed disingenuous ("Say my name..." Really?) the train robbery made no logistical sense (and neither did the fact that everything that has happened on the show took place in a year); and they killed off what was turning into one of the more interesting characters the show had left. So yeah, not sure why they chose to nominate the worst season of the show, but I guess I'm happy for them nonetheless.
velouria Great writing? Give me a break.
December 13, 2012 at 5:36PM ESTJohn I'm not sure exactly which seasons of each show The Golden Globes is considering, but I had Game of Thrones as the second best drama on my Emmy ballot (I was legitimately shocked that the voters actually picked the six best dramas) behind Breaking Bad and ahead of Homeland, Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire and Downton Abbey, in that order. I wouldn't have minded Mad Men being left off for Game of Thrones. But not for The Newsroom. Come on.
December 13, 2012 at 6:24PM ESTWeez @velouria Give you a break from what? What was bad about the writing? Some of it was very functional, sure, but that's no different than any of the other shows up for nomination. Downtown Abbey had a truly awful season, which I'm sure anyone who has watched it will agree. The Newsroom was hit-and-miss when it came to both dialogue and plotting (mostly a miss), and Homeland has gone off the rails after Q&A in a spectacular fashion. Perhaps if your comments were anything other than snark, I'd get some kind of response, but I'll just have to assume you're trolling until then.
December 13, 2012 at 7:44PM ESTkronicfatigue I thought for sure the smoke baby that swooped in and ________ (not going to give the spoiler) only to never be spoken about again, up to and including Kat NOT telling Rob about that major event should have been nominated for best supporting actor.
December 16, 2012 at 11:22AM ESTI LOVED the first season of game of thrones, and season two looked cool, but the plot and dialogue were brutal. Part of that, from what I read, was the pains of not having the room to squeeze in explanations of ridiculous stuff, like said smoke baby. But really, season 2 was brutal.
All my friends who have seen both seasons agree. None of them are the type to post on tv message boards and only 2 of them read the books. You know, anecdotally and small-sample size blah blah blah
Tracey
December 13, 2012 at 11:13AM EST Reply to CommentI am probably the only person annoyed that ParaNorman didn't get a spot in the animation category.
But there you have it.
I am annoyed ParaNorman didn't get a nod. ESPECIALLY when Hotel Transylvania did. I hated Frankenweenie too, but at least I understand that one as the stuff that pissed me off about it was at least dolled up by really good animation and excellent nods to old school horror. All HT had was...I guess celeb voices? Yeah, whatever.
joel I liked Paranorman too, but the HFPA doesn't know animation from shinola. They pick these based on the studio and the box office as well as the potential stars they can invite. Hotel Transylvania made $300m worldwide to Paranorman's $100m worldwide. An HT nomination could possibly get Selena Gomez and Justin Beiber in the room, where as Paranorman just doesn't have that star power. So there you are.
December 13, 2012 at 11:25AM ESTTracey Heh, notice I even mentioned the celebrities involved, because yes, that is literally the only thing the flick had going for it. Just because there's a justification doesn't make it any less of a bummer.
December 13, 2012 at 11:35AM ESTBut hey, when isn't the Golden Globes eyeroll worthy? Didn't mean to come off as surprised, really, just sad it's not getting the recognition it deserves.
(and I'll just use this opportunity to say everyone who digs animation should see it, because it was a great little flick.)
FA I completely agree and was also pretty shocked about the absence of ParaNorman, and i would also like to say that i've whatched Brave and despite enjoying it, i still think that ParaNorman wins by a great margin.
December 13, 2012 at 1:37PM ESTP.S. Also shocked about Aaron Paul
Ed G.
December 13, 2012 at 11:21AM EST Reply to CommentThe GG awards is just an excuse to have a star-filled holiday party where it's OK to drink too much because your boss isn't going to be there anyway. (besides, other award shows are just infomercials for their particular genre anyway.)
Dezbot That's why I used to love the Globes. It was a game of "Guess which drug/drink the celeb is on" (there was one time where it was clear Gillian Anderson was stoned out of her mind). But now that the celebs are taking them more seriously and dressing up, they are not so fun to watch (unless they fully unleash Ricky Gervais).
December 13, 2012 at 1:20PM ESTJoyeful
December 13, 2012 at 11:22AM EST Reply to CommentThe Globes are dumb. I will never understand the ridiculous decision to lump all genres together in the supporting actor category.
Second - I'm gonna assume that Zooey Deschanel takes the spot that Katharine McPhee thankfully didn't get nominated for. Young and pretty. At least she's actually funny.
nick
December 13, 2012 at 11:27AM EST Reply to CommentSo, given the categories, Smash is more "musical" than Nashville or more comical ? :-)
guest
December 13, 2012 at 11:34AM EST Reply to CommentI wonder how Matthew Weiner's ego is coping with the rejection of The Megan Show? First the Emmys, now the Golden Globes...
Hangover Child Most intelligent people don`t really care about award shows, you know. Or perhaps you don`t, as you seem to be quite dim.
December 13, 2012 at 7:59PM ESTguest Thanks for replying to my comment, Matt Weiner - oops I mean Hangover Child!
December 13, 2012 at 10:57PM ESTKrista
December 13, 2012 at 11:41AM EST Reply to CommentIf they had to nominate someone from the Huston dynasty, why not make it Jack? He's from a famous family and, as Harrow, is consistently giving one of the most interesting performances on TV. It's win win!
DB Cooper Indeed.
December 13, 2012 at 2:56PM ESTCol Bat Guano Anything would be better than a performance from Magic City.
December 13, 2012 at 2:59PM ESTChris I agree. Jack's performance is strong and Danny gives a very strong performance. He makes the show, is the show on Magic City.
December 13, 2012 at 6:49PM ESTChris Lastly, it's not about Magic City as a whole. You don't have to like the show to see Danny's performance is great.
December 13, 2012 at 6:50PM ESTTina Anjelica, perhaps?
December 14, 2012 at 7:52AM ESTRinaldo
December 13, 2012 at 11:47AM EST Reply to CommentYeah. I mean... it's the Golden Globes. When have they ever meant anything, besides a moment's worth of incredulous amusement from the sidelines, on a day like today?
(And by the way, I include their coverage of movies in this attitude. Year after year, someone will say that they offer an indication of what the Oscar nominations will look like, and... they really don't. They're entirely in their own universe.)
ZacharyTF
December 13, 2012 at 11:51AM EST Reply to CommentI liked The Newsroom, but it could have been so much better. I realized this when after watching the season finale, the part I could remember best was Will's rant at the beginning of the pilot. The rest of the season never lived up to that brilliant opening, thanks to the stupid office romance crap. I hope the second season focuses more on the news side with less of the coincidences that permeated the news gathering of season one.
That said, The Newsroom didn't deserve the drama series slot. I would have had it at 11th at best, behind the five that were nominated plus Mad Men, Game of Thrones, Luck, Justified, and Parenthood.
Sam That seems to be the theme with Sorkin, now. What was the best part of Studio 60? Judd Hirsch's rant in the pilot.
December 13, 2012 at 4:41PM ESTIs that meant to mean that The Newsroom is as bad as Studio 60? Maybe at times, but no. Still a ridiculous nomination, though.
SaveFarris I'd say NewsRoom was worse than Studio 60. It took Josh Lyman 13 episodes to become an unlikeable creep. Took Jeff Daniels less than 2.
December 13, 2012 at 6:18PM ESTJaxemer11 I refuse to watch The Newsroom, because I don't want to let Sorkin make me hate Jeff Daniels (who I otherwise really enjoy).
December 14, 2012 at 12:11AM ESTLenny
December 13, 2012 at 11:58AM EST Reply to CommentLOLZ
Collback
December 13, 2012 at 12:00PM EST Reply to CommentThe most shocking to me: nominating Hayden Panettiere when Anna Gunn isn't part of the list.
Globes But Anna Gunn is an actor, she acts, like Anna Torv is an actor who acts.
December 13, 2012 at 5:38PM ESTI think both Annas should get praise and recognition solely for the fact that they have the guts to play the characters they play, and in the case Torv doing so with very little material.
Maggie Smith should just tape 1 clip and use that in all sorts of products, drama series, comedy series, mini series, musical and movies,
she will get 10 nominations.
She plays the same -role- over and over for years now.
And for the rest it is names, who is who, and did we see you at a Hollywoodparty?
Kmarko
December 13, 2012 at 12:01PM EST Reply to CommentAs you say, the Golden Globes are pretty silly. The broadcast itself is fun, though--by combining TV and movies, it's pretty much all awards that are entertaining to watch.
Too bad nobody gets drunk anymore, though.
Swearin
December 13, 2012 at 12:14PM EST Reply to CommentMost Americans don't watch American television anymore, so expecting foreign journalists to watch and know what's actually good is a fool's errand.
I have a friend who worked for SKY TV (British mega-channel) for many years, covering celebrity stories and movie/TV business, etc. Believe me when I say, big names are ALL they care about; the foreign press is ravenous about Hollywood.
youngjt80 Most Americans don't watch American television anymore? Whaaaa???
December 13, 2012 at 1:05PM ESTrerun He said it so its true!!!
December 13, 2012 at 2:38PM ESTCol Bat Guano It's on the internet, so it must be!
December 14, 2012 at 1:01AM ESTM
December 13, 2012 at 12:19PM EST Reply to CommentHave you actually watched Nashville, Alan? Connie Britton may have been great as Mrs. Coach, but she's frankly sleepwalking through this role. In fact, the only time the show comes alive is when Hayden Panettiere is on screen.
B I agree with that...Hayden pops on the show and seems to be really reveling in it. I would nominate her, too.
December 13, 2012 at 3:05PM ESTLars Agreed! Also, it helps when Panettiere's character is the most rounded/best written on the show. On the other hand, Britton's character started strong, but became a cliche with little development. I would rather go back and watch her as Mrs. Coach.
December 13, 2012 at 3:27PM ESTJaxemer11 Agree. Love Mrs. Coach, but the writing for her terrible has been God awful lately.
December 14, 2012 at 12:12AM ESTJaxemer11 *for her character ... oops
December 14, 2012 at 12:13AM ESTEddie in Jersey
December 13, 2012 at 12:35PM EST Reply to CommentThe HFPA did not think Aaron Paul turned in one of the best supporting roles of the year.
The HFPA did not think Peter Dinklage turned in one of the best supporting roles of the year.
The HFPA did not think Monica Potter turned in one of the best supporting actress performances in Parenthood.
The HFPA does not in any way recognize a resurgence in Dexter, after many mediocre-at-best seasons, that is almost never seen with aging series.
See above and apply to Sons of Anarchy.
JohnG
December 13, 2012 at 12:53PM EST Reply to CommentI have ask Alan, given that these award are silly are ridiculous, why bother covering them? Isn't giving them press just going to enable them further?
youngjt80 Kind of hard for a tv writer not to at least mention it.
December 13, 2012 at 1:28PM ESTJohnG Is it though? Alan is very particular when it comes to what shows he writes about, so why not the same for Awards Shows?
December 13, 2012 at 8:20PM ESTyoungjt80 I don't know. I've read Alan for years now and it seems like he enjoys debating who should win and who gets snubbed during all these award shows, no matter how ridiculous they might be. There's probably a mandate from the boss to cover these types of shows and as the tv guy on the site I guess the burden would fall to him.
December 13, 2012 at 8:39PM ESTmrbilliam
December 13, 2012 at 1:07PM EST Reply to CommentThey should just quit pretending and add a "Hottest Young Hottie" category.
katy1974
December 13, 2012 at 2:12PM EST Reply to CommentDid I just miss Timothy Olyphant or Nick Searcy or Walton Goggins? Were their names there and I overlooked them? Or is HPFA have that narrow a vision?
alynch
December 13, 2012 at 2:30PM EST Reply to Comment"And it taketh away, by elbowing "Mad Men" out of the category in favor of 'The Newsroom'"
Obviously there's no way of knowing for sure, but isn't it probably more likely that Breaking Bad took the Mad Men slot and Newsroom took the Game of Thrones slot?
belinda
December 13, 2012 at 2:39PM EST Reply to Commentlololol Smash got nominated? LMAO
but man, seeing The Newsroom there instead of Mad Men makes me want to tear my hair out. WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF I knew The Newsroom would get noms even though it deserves none of it, but getting one over Mad Men is just utter bullshit.
angelas02
December 13, 2012 at 4:33PM EST Reply to CommentPlease tell me how Maggie Smith Sophie Vergara can be nominated for the same award.
Chris Unlike most other award shows, best supporting actor on TV with globes is bunched together and not separate so comedy and drama are all in one category which I think should be separated.
December 13, 2012 at 6:53PM ESTangelas02
December 13, 2012 at 4:34PM EST Reply to CommentPlease tell me how Maggie Smith and Sophie Vegara can be nominated for the same award.
angelas02
December 13, 2012 at 4:35PM EST Reply to CommentPlease tell me how Maggie Smith and Sophia Vergara can be nominated for the same award.
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