Review: 'The Newsroom' - 'The 112th Congress': Koch is it
Will takes on the Tea Party
Sam Waterston in "The Newsroom."
A review of tonight's "The Newsroom" coming up just as soon as the best analogy I can use is "Rocky II"...
"I never knew what the word 'smug' meant until I met you." -Maggie
Though "The 112th Congress" has a central idea at its spine — Will takes on the Tea Party, and Charlie catches flack for it from ACN owner Leona Lansing — and a variety of subplots we follow throughout, it's so episodic in nature, and features so many ideas and problems at once, that I think the best way to address this one is to go bullet point by bullet point:
* First, it's fascinating how much Good Sorkin and Bad Sorkin are simultaneously on display in Will's speech announcing the new mission for "News Night." The message about how TV news lost its moral compass because Congress let Paley, Sarnoff, et al sell advertising way back when was an interesting one, but also one that wouldn't apply to a non-broadcast outfit like ACN. (Unless Will/Sorkin is suggesting that the FCC would have managed to get sway over cable and... what? Told cable news channel owners that they couldn't sell ads around the clock? In that case, no one would bother starting such an operation. And if it would have just meant one hour per day without ads, well, the other 23 could still be spent on Bubble Boy, Natalee Holloway, etc.) The speech is simultaneously self-effacing (Will admits he screwed up along with everyone else) and self-important (by placing it on a level with the 9/11 Commission), positioning this new direction as both an underdog approach ("I'm going with the guys who are getting creamed") and as the only reasonable position of people who are awesome ("Who are we to make these decisions? We're the media elite."). It's a lot of strong rhetoric (one of Sorkin's specialties) in service of an idea I largely agree with; I'm just not sure it hangs together at all as presented here.
* By doing an early episode that spans six months of time, right after the first two episodes were set within days of each other, Sorkin gets to deal with the whole election cycle in one go, rather than having an anti-Tea Party subplot in every episode for the bulk of the season. But doing so also throws out much of the tension the first two episodes established in terms of this group of relative strangers, bitter ex-lovers, etc., coming together to make this show — and also about the growing pains of the show itself. By racing all the way from May through November, we miss seeing Will and Mackenzie get used to working with each other in any real depth, miss seeing any significant bumps in the road like their Arizona immigration segment last week, miss seeing Maggie get better at her job, miss seeing Sloan adjust to the bigger stage (do we even see her appear on "News Night" before the election coverage?), miss seeing Will genuinely get to know these people (there's an implied bond between Will and the group at the karaoke bar in the final scene that wasn't there last week), etc. Sorkin has said (in response to a question about why the show-within-the-show on "Studio 60" wasn't as hyper-competitive and full of jealousy and neuroses as what we know about how "SNL" works) that he prefers writing about harmonious workplaces to ones where everyone's constantly in conflict. And if that's his comfort zone, fine. But then why bother setting up all that potential for conflict, discomfort, etc. in the first couple of episodes if most of it was going to be skipped past in short order by the third episode?
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This one wasn't quite as overflowing with instances of the female characters acting incompetent, stupid, and/or insane — although Jim does have to stop Maggie's panic attack on a balcony, which is second cousin to talking someone off a ledge — as last week's outing, mercifully. That said, it feels like the time spent worrying about the dangers of the Tea Party is matched by how much we're supposed to spend being concerned about how Mac is responding to Will's string of attractive female companions, and then to his reaction to her being in a serious relationship with Gordon 2.0(*), and to whether or not Maggie and Don would ever break up long enough for Jim to make his move. And while Sorkin can be a good romantic comedy writer at times (case in point: "The American President"), too often it feels like the romantic arcs on his shows involve characters (male and female) acting like the dumbest, most immature versions of themselves, and that was unfortunately the case here. I don't care about any of these relationships at this stage, and certainly not in the way they're being depicted.
(*) I recognize that many of you didn't watch "Sports Night," which is fine. But it's hilarious how close in mannerisms Jon Tenney is on this show to the Ted McGinley character in that one. When that Sorkin supercut went around after the premiere, I was amused but untroubled by it, as I suspect you could do something similar for David Milch, Shonda Rhimes, David E. Kelley or pretty much any other prolific TV creator with a distinctive voice. That said, there's a difference between liking a certain turn of phrase, or even a certain character archetype (Isaac --> Leo --> Charlie), and straight-up recycling an entire dynamic involving the exact same character archetypes (with Will as Casey and Mac as Dana). I'm not saying this is going to end up with Tenney wearing Will's shirt or something, but right now it's the same darned guy.
* I admire the restraint it took to have Jane Fonda — who was once married to a cable news mogul in real life — on camera for much of an episode and not letting her speak until the 48 minute mark. I imagine when you've got an old-school movie star with two Oscars on her mantel, she's going to make an impression no matter when she talks, but by having Leona sit silently in the meeting for so long while her obnoxious son Reese grilled Charlie, the impact was even greater.
* I've spent a while circling back to this review, trying to think of some way to address the Tea Party material without violating my own No Politics rule, stirring up a lot of angry rhetoric going back and forth in the comments, and I ultimately didn't have the heart to do it. If y'all can find a way to discuss Sorkin's approach to the topic in a civil manner (and without it simply turning into a discussion of the merits of the Tea Party movement itself), more power to you. If not, whole swaths of comments will be deleted quickly. The most I will say (unless the comments turn out to be surprisingly calm and measured on this topic) is a prediction that the majority of you (whether you do or don't support the Tea Party) will find Sorkin's approach to the subject unsatisfying and/or overly-simplistic.
* That said, we're talking about a show that opens with a pair of apologies, so let me issue one of my own. In my initial review of the series, one of the examples I gave for the show's 20/20 hindsight was the moment on Election Night when Sloan's Spidey-sense goes off and she realizes all the winning Tea Party candidates are going to cause a crisis with the debt ceiling. As many of you pointed out, this was a talking point on several actual newscasts back in 2010. I regret the error, and will try to do better.
* Finally, in case you missed it, HBO renewed "The Newsroom" earlier this week.
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Next 118 CommentsJack
July 8, 2012 at 11:06PM EST Reply to CommentAlan, Remember, MSNBC fired Phil Donahue before the start of Iraq War II even though his show was MSNBCs highest rated at the time. So, the issues about corporate ownership the series raises are based on reality.
sepinwall Did I suggest otherwise in my review? Corporate ownership of cable news divisions is an issue, absolutely. It's just not an issue that would have never existed had the government way back when told Sarnoff, et al that broadcast news couldn't have ads.
July 8, 2012 at 11:09PM ESTAdam B.
July 8, 2012 at 11:07PM EST Reply to CommentI am a committed progressive who found insulting the way this episode treated the Tea Party. Sorkin basically suggests that only idiots and the easily hoodwinked could choose such a strain of conservatism. Worse, it was bad television.
JerseyRudy I think Sorkin was trying to make a more nuanced point about the Tea Party, but I agree that it was clumsily executed. The intended point was that the Tea Party started off as a worthy grassroots movement against excessive government spending and deficits, but it was hijacked by big-money fat cats such as the Koch Brothers who used it to pursue their corporate agenda. The scene in which the grassroots Tea Party people are surprised to hear about the involvement of the Koch Brothers was meant to show them as genuine in their small government beliefs, even if it also shows them as naive.
July 8, 2012 at 11:40PM ESTNJMark Sorkin is NEVER nuanced when he's putting politics over everything else. People throw "Koch Brothers! Bad! Bad! Bad!" around like there's something sinister, yet never get specific about what's so sinister.
July 9, 2012 at 12:15PM ESTEither way, the involvement by someone who may have motives doesn't invalidate the concerns of the people IN grassroots organizations.
JerseyRudy You missed the point if you feel that the show was saying their concerns are invalidated. That was the purpose of making the comparison to the Yippies and the Progressive movement of the 1960s. The point is that their concerns have been co-opted by influential people who have an agenda beyond merely smaller government and no more bailouts.
July 9, 2012 at 1:07PM ESTI do agree that the Koch Brothers are mentioned by the left in the same way that George Soros is mentioned by the right (which was also a comparison invoked in last night's episode). Just because someone with tons of money supports a cause does not discredit the cause. You need to look into the policies being advocated by Soros and the Koch Brothers.
beets I agree. This was terrible. I thought the first episode of this show was OK. I was surprised that it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. It all went downhill from there. My objections aren't political. I probably agree with Sorkin. But this was simply lousy and lazy television. Simply awful!
July 10, 2012 at 5:27AM ESTMatt
July 8, 2012 at 11:13PM EST Reply to CommentThis was excellent television. The conventional wisdom that the show gets worse as it progresses, rather than better, takes a serious hit in my view.
I liked this episode a lot.
TK I'm with you Matt. Loved this episode and the show as a whole.
July 8, 2012 at 11:15PM ESTI feel we will be in the minority in these comments but that's ok.
Perry I second that motion. I just think people are clouded on some level by previous notions of Sorkin. This should stand on its own, without the knowledge of what Sorkin has done in the past.
July 8, 2012 at 11:17PM ESTI'm not saying its my favorite show on tv. But I am enjoying it. And this was my favorite of the three.
mcm99 Agree. Much better then the last episode. I really liked the flashback structure as well even though I get Alan's point about the time lapse, it didn't really bother me as I was watching.
July 8, 2012 at 11:17PM ESTJerseyRudy I like the show when it deals with the news and the making of the news show. I think it falls flat when it deals with the private lives of the characters. I feel like fast forwarding through the Maggie-Jim-Don triangle scenes.
July 8, 2012 at 11:43PM ESTJohn I disagree whole-heartedly. The Sorkinese was fine, but dramatically I thought it was an awful hour of television.
July 9, 2012 at 1:12AM EST
i agree with John. i was -- and in the world of Sorkin i think this is sort of like death -- bored.
July 9, 2012 at 3:21AM ESTi'm still having problems with the casting and like Alan said, caring about these love triangles -- which i think is what he wants us to be caring about?
i don't know, i'm very confused by the vision of this show.
JimAbbott'sRightHandMan I've mostly enjoyed the episodes. Like Facebook User, though, I'm still having trouble caring about the love interest stories. I think these things work best when the writing doesn't rush to dive right in. In Sorkin's "Sports Night," it took many episodes before I cared at all about the Casey/Dana business. I understand months of time are supposed to have passed during this episode, so in the show's time it makes more sense for the guys to be a little crushed to see the girls with their boyfriends. But in real-life time, it's still only been 3 episodes. It just feels too early.
July 9, 2012 at 12:25PM ESTTina
July 8, 2012 at 11:15PM EST Reply to CommentThat scene between Fonda and Waterston was amazing. I wish the rest of the show was that good.
Yes, I also saw the Gordon-similarities to Mackenzie's new boyfriend. And how many people on Sports Night said variations on hanging out in the studio and trying not to get in the way.
Politically, well, it's strange for me to feel at all sorry for the Tea Party, but boy did they get beat up tonight. They may not be overly complex but they're more than we saw tonight, and more that you'd like to believe Will would show as a news person.
Scout Thanks Tina. I will go back and watch only the scene with Fonda and Waterston (who is the only character I can stand on this show) - otherwise, I find this show grating, insipid and self-indulgent. I believe it's minute 48... Cheers.
July 9, 2012 at 5:40AM ESTNick COMPLETELY AGREE on the Fonda-Waterson scene. I'll usually give a show three episodes before abandoning it, but was seriously about to throw my hands up with this one before it ended. That's how annoyed I was with everything before it. Then Jane Fonda opened her mouth. That's easily the most compelling the show has been and they need to bring this angle to the forefront. Without it, there's no tension and there's no way these characters won't be unbelievably grating. Has to be some legitimate opposition.
July 9, 2012 at 9:28AM ESTmcm99
July 8, 2012 at 11:16PM EST Reply to CommentLoved the boardroom scenes, Fonda was fnatastic.
The romantic stuff is just badly done and I LOVE The American President, so I can enjoy Sorkin's brand of romance when done well.
Dr. Gross
July 8, 2012 at 11:18PM EST Reply to CommentMy only real takeaway from the treatment of the Tea Party was that it was wholly uninteresting.
I continue to enjoy the chemistry between Pill and Gallagher, and Waterston is strong as well. This show is otherwise falling flat for me.
Joe You see chemistry between Pill and Gallagher? I guess I'm blind. The whole workplace romantic longing thing is so overdone. I find her to be a moron that Sorkin is trying to repeatedly portray as intelligent and I find him to be pretty much the same.
July 9, 2012 at 4:59PM ESTnic919
July 8, 2012 at 11:29PM EST Reply to CommentI liked this episode more than the last one, but it probably has a lot to do with the Waterston and Fonda scenes more than anything.
As for Sorkin's attacks on the Tea Party through Will, yes he is applying hindsight, but I can't say that I have not read the same thing a little more recently from conservative commentators like Andrew Sullivan and David Frum, who I bet Sorkin who never admit to agreeing with. The problem with setting the show 2 years in the past and talking about the Tea Party is that the no one can really predict what it means in American politics even now.
TK Will's speech about the Tea Party in Waterston's office could have been taken from David Frum's blog (and may have been. Sorkin used some source for a speech on The West Wing where Jed lambasts a Dr Laura clone about homosexuals.)
July 8, 2012 at 11:40PM ESTIt seems pretty in character to me, a moderate republican agreeing with a moderate republican.
And Frum was on Nightline in March of 2010 saying these things so it's not really Sorkin cheating or using "magic hindsight." To people that think like Will (and Frum and Sullivan for that matter) it was already apparent in their minds what was happening.
Zach L
July 8, 2012 at 11:29PM EST Reply to CommentAlan I know you've been championing the film on twitter and I enjoyed it too, so I want to ask in which role do you enjoy Alison Pill more in - Newsroom or Goon?
KobraCola Although so far I might like Goon more than The Newsroom, I have to say Alison Pill has been better (and has been given more to do) on The Newsroom.
July 10, 2012 at 12:53AM ESTbenscripps
July 8, 2012 at 11:31PM EST Reply to CommentOne thing I noticed--the conversation between Reese and Charlie ("Media Matters, Think Progress, Howard Kurtz and the 'Columbia Journalism Review' all praised our coverage of the Times Square Bomb." "Do any of them advertise on our network?") was awfully similar to a pair of lines in Paddy Chayefsky's "Network".
name-checking Paddy Chayefsky and NETWORK probably would make Aaron Sorkin very happy. i think that's an unabashed influence....
July 9, 2012 at 3:26AM ESTper Network's page on wikipedia: "The short-lived series Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip mentions the film and its writer Paddy Chayefsky multiple times after a character's outburst on live television. The show's creator Aaron Sorkin also mentioned the film and Chayefsky during his acceptance speech after winning the Academy Award for writing the film The Social Network."
jonnyfive
July 8, 2012 at 11:32PM EST Reply to Comment"News Night" (the show within the show) lacks any real appeal for me. It is essentially the Daily Show, except without humor and with years of hindsight. Added to that are interviewees who are all archetypes: the dumb beauty pageant winner, the dumb teapartiers, the logical republican who said one reasonable thing and got screwed. If the interviews weren't fictional they would obviously be more interesting (although bringing on random dumb "tea party backers" would still not do it for me). As is, I feel like very little value is added by watching the broadcasts themselves.
TJ I watch cable news frequently. You'd be surprised how accurate those archetypes are.
July 9, 2012 at 1:09AM ESTJoe But the guy who has the final say on the show is supposed to be a Republican and all they have on are pathetic caricatures of the morons of the right and none of the same on the left.
July 9, 2012 at 5:01PM ESTTJ True there caricatures and no democrats on News Night. However, being Republican doesn't equal being for the Tea Party or for being conservative. Our ex-governor Arne Carlson is a Republican, but he's against the Tea Party, voter ID, is for raising taxes sometimes, funded education instead of cut it.
July 9, 2012 at 11:26PM ESTYou can be Republican but against the current brand that Republicans carry, which is what Will is railing against. Republicans rebranded, and left Will behind. I'm not sure Will needs democrats on air to create conflict because he creates enough conflict by himself.
It might look like overkill to have Will and a democrat both mock the Tea Party.
belinda I like this comment.
July 10, 2012 at 1:07AM ESTFymaxwell
July 8, 2012 at 11:41PM EST Reply to CommentWorth pointing out that Will's speech was inaccurate regarding Paley, Sarnoff, and the FCC. I know that this is fiction, and not a text book, but if Sorkin is going to make TV history the basis of his argument and his storytelling he should try harder to get his facts straight.
John
July 8, 2012 at 11:45PM EST Reply to CommentI love Sam Waterston, but I hope Reese breaks Charlie's jaw.
Brendan I'm hoping for vice-versa.
July 9, 2012 at 12:32PM ESTJesse
July 8, 2012 at 11:55PM EST Reply to CommentWorth noting that it's impossible to interview the new Congressman from CO-8 when there are only 7 Congressional districts in the state.
JerseyRudy It's another awkward aspect of this show that they have to use fake people to interview even though they are trying to present the real events.
July 9, 2012 at 12:11AM ESTI thought that scene did a good job of showing the futility of newspeople trying to have a decent interview with a winning candidate on election night. The winning candidate gives a pat answer designed to get a roar from the celebrating crowd, and nothing more gets accomplished.
The only worthwhile interviews on election night are with the losing candidates.
youngjt80 Not really worth noting.
July 10, 2012 at 11:24AM ESTpaul b That's like pointing out that it's impossible for police officers in NYC to work in the 27th or 15th precinct, because they don't exist in real life. Or that a phone number with 555 must be fake.
July 15, 2012 at 12:23AM ESTRoark
July 9, 2012 at 12:36AM EST Reply to CommentWon't venture down the political rabbithole - but I will commend Greg Mottola, who did a hell of a job making a very tricky episode hang together. I was really impressed by his work on the pilot but I suspect this was actually the bigger challenge - and the greater accomplishment.
Rev. Slappy I can't wait to see the Larry David movie Mottola is directing.
July 9, 2012 at 12:56AM ESTPatrick
July 9, 2012 at 12:51AM EST Reply to CommentI know this is somewhat of a nitpick, but I was surprised they misspelled Richard Clarke's name as "Richard Clark" on the TV screen at the beginning of the episode. Some people will say spelling isn't important, but I don't think it's too much to ask to get a well known public figure's name spelled correctly.
zed That's not a nitpick. A show like this should be able to get that right.
July 9, 2012 at 4:12AM ESTOtto Man Yep. That bugged me too.
July 9, 2012 at 10:12AM ESTJerseyRudy Also strange that they used Richard Clarke as the example of someone accepting blame. The main point of Clarke's testimony in 2004 was that he was the guy who tried to warn others in the Bush Administration of the seriousness of the Al Qaeda threat, but his warnings were largely ignored. He was apologizing for the failures of others.
July 9, 2012 at 10:23AM ESTweed4504
July 9, 2012 at 1:00AM EST Reply to CommentI really enjoyed the pilot but these last two episodes have been very problematic for me. I am a liberal and I agree with most everything that the characters are saying, but the show can be excruciatingly preachy. Go back and watch The West Wing. Episodes had moments of preaching, some more than others, but they were usually buried beneath mostly great character stories and great moral dilemmas. I have talked to countless Republicans who said "I don't agree with anything on the show, but I love it anyways." That was because of the way he balanced the preaching with the great characters and compelling stories. This is all preach and I can't imagine many conservatives enjoying it.
The best summary I've read of the show is from Scott Tobias' recap of this weeks episodes...
"The show and its creator, Aaron Sorkin, are making completely valid points about how and why the media, specifically broadcast news, has let down the electorate. But the problem with the show is that it can’t help making those statements explicit. The Wire is a great show because it reveals, season by season, the futility of the “War On Drugs” and its corrosive, wide-ranging impact on a city’s social institutions and its people. It would not be a great show if Bubbles came out and said, “Man, the ‘War On Drugs’ has really had a corrosive, wide-ranging impact on the city’s social institutions and people like me.”"
TJ When the show "lectures" it often sounds like my professors back in journalism school. The "lectures" sound almost identical to what a Pulitzer prize winning professor I had 5 year ago.
July 9, 2012 at 1:13AM ESTweed4504 Which is exactly my problem with the show. Even before the show aired, when that first preview came out, I remember wishing that the main thrust of the show was different. It was yet another character who was outraged and couldn't handle this bullshit anymore and was gonna change the way we did things!
July 9, 2012 at 1:22AM ESTI think a way more challenging approach to the story is just to have it set behind the scenes of a cable news show and just show how they do it and fill it with characters, some of whom are cynical, some of whom are optimists, some liberal and democrat, and just show them doing their jobs. And by showing them going through the day to day, reveal why the news has become what it's become. Show us how decisions get made and what the motives are behind them and then allow for the audience to take what they want to away from that. In other words, show us what is working and what's broken, and weave your message into that. That's so much harder than having characters constantly blurt out "Here's what's wrong and what we have to do to fix it!"
Sara I don't think Sorkin paid attention on the day they covered, "show, don't tell."
July 9, 2012 at 9:56AM ESTKobraCola IMO, these criticisms are completely valid, but Sorkin's lectures are so well-written and engaging that I'm drawn in anyway. (It also helps that I'm a fellow liberal.) I would never try to claim any episode of The Newsroom so far is better than any episode of The Wire, but I'm really enjoying TN for different reasons than I enjoyed TW. The lectures can be a bit much, but I'm mostly swept up in their majesty.
July 10, 2012 at 1:35PM EST
Yeah, I don't want to indicate that The Newsroom should be a similar viewing experience to The Wire. They're very different shows with different agendas and I appreciate that.
July 10, 2012 at 10:19PM ESTI can do a lot of his speeches. I really enjoyed the pilot and thought the second episode was alright but had some issues. The nonstop preaching of this third episode really just pissed me off. The Tea Party are such an easy target, that I think calling them dumb and unqualified for office is just too easy and doesn't really further the conversation in any new way. And I was very close to offended by the scene near the end when Olivia Munn turns to Daniels and says "Ask about the debt ceiling! I have a feeling it's going to be an issue in a year from now!" And then they share that moment of horror when they realize what may happen. I just wanted to punch Sorkin and tell him to get his head out of his ass.
I say all of this is not only a liberal, but previously a huge fan of Sorkin. I've seen all his shows and films and have enjoyed all of them. But another show about the behind the scenes working of a show filled with main characters who have a past relationship, a younger couple who are slowly falling for each other, and an old wise man watching over all of them? It just reeks of laziness on so many levels. I've seen this story he's telling multiple times and the whole thing just bores me.
tehpwbh
July 9, 2012 at 1:32AM EST Reply to CommentSo, Sorkin can beat dead horses for hours and hours yet we're being denied top-of-his-game Milch? That's dissappointing.
When does Breaking Bad start again?
Ireneinidaho Sunday, the 15th!! Only one week left to wait. Then a whole week until the next episode, and so on and so on....
July 9, 2012 at 1:59AM ESTMike T
July 9, 2012 at 1:38AM EST Reply to CommentAlan, I would argue against your point that the "FCC screwed up by not demanding 'no ads' on the news programs" wouldn't impact non-broadcast networks. I think had that caveat been instituted at the jump, we might not have 24-hour news networks like we do, or they would look radically different from what we have now.
As I understand it, the news divisions of the three initial broadcast networks operated at a loss for years, and the networks accepted it as the tradeoff for getting to use the public airwaves, ultimately arriving at a model where the news divisions would "pay off" for the network in building prestige and name-recognition that could convert into viewership for the entertainment programming. Then CBS created 60 Minutes, which showed everyone "Hey - the news *can* make us money!" That concept spawned competing programming on the other networks which, with the advent of cable, led to a network solely about the news, and here we are.
But if it was made holy writ "No Ads During The News. Period." right at the start of the entire adventure, the idea that a news program can't make money for a company would have been an instituted public policy rather than a generally agreed-upon concept that only waited for someone to figure out a way to knock it down. And if the news could never be profitable, then I find it very difficult to see how a company would even conceive to launch a 24-hour channel that did nothing but lose money every minute of every hour of every day. The only scenario that comes to mind would be to make the pre-60 Minutes programming model writ large: an open association of a 24-hour news channel with other entertainment channels owned by the same company in order to create that brand loyalty across multiple networks.
Kurtz So we might have never had 24-hour news networks if there wasn't a profit in it, and would have to get our news over the course of an hour with a trusted network anchor like Cronkite instead of an attempt to fill a 24-hour cycle with information about Snookie's make-under and Lohan's rehab with ratings-grubbing choir-preaching polarizers like Beck and Obermann?
July 9, 2012 at 2:05AM ESTThe horror.
Dwayne Mendoza Mike, your understanding is only partially right. For years network news lost money-- and networks viewed it as a necessary cost of doing business.
July 9, 2012 at 9:40PM ESTBut news divisions continued to lose money for nearly two decades after 60 MINUTES debuted in 1968. The requirement that news division make money begins at the point when the networks were sold to conglomerates, who viewed TV news as a product that needed to improve sales or cut costs.
Both NBC and ABC were purchased in 1986; NBC by GE and ABC by Capital Cities. In all three cases, the families that had built the network had either died off or lost interest.
The story about CBS is, depending on your opinion of Aaron Sorkin, either ironic or annoying. CBS was sold when it went deeply into debt fighting off a hostile takeover (a leveraged buyout) in the mid-80's.
The corporate raider-- the Gordon Gekko who forced CBS to sell itself to Loews and begin cutting its budget? None other than Ted Turner, whom Sorkin idolizes.
Also, CNN did lose money on its ad-supported broadcasts. Turner correctly guessed that he could break even or turn a profit from the fees that cable systems would pay for the channel. Turner also intended to syndicate his news content and sell them to local TV stations (mush as the AP or UPI sold its wire stores to newspapers), though that didn't work out so well.
tehpwbh
July 9, 2012 at 2:11AM EST Reply to CommentI have Milch on the brain now.
Milch follows the iceberg rule (to call an old cliche into service once more) while Sorkin needs it all to be perfectly on the nose and explicit. Has to make sure and hold everyone's hand lest they have an errant opinion.
Thinking back to his movies I've really enjoyed, I don't think Sorkin suffers from this universally. It's just his political mode for some reason. Which is fine for those it's working for but it just seems like bizarro Bill O'Reilly to me.
Jon Stewart winks and nods and trusts his audience far more and he's a comedian playing it mainly for laughs. Just a pinch of this attitude would do wonders for this show. In my humblest of opinions, of course.
KobraCola Great point about how Sorkin only seems to do this with politically-related things. Since seeing the pilot of The Newsroom, I've been trying to put my finger on what exactly forces Sorkin to feel like he has to be extremely obvious with his message, as opposed to his slightly-more nuanced messages in other TV shows/movies.
July 10, 2012 at 1:39PM ESTEdithKeeler
July 9, 2012 at 6:09AM EST Reply to CommentSam Waterston is the best thing ever but basically every thing else makes me want to vomit, and I'm happy to call myself a socialist politically. I geez louise I agree with a lot of it but he sure has a knack of making me wish I didn't.
Other than Waterston (and his scene with Fonda), the only interesting thing was wondering how much they spent to get that Elvis song.
A couple other things.
July 9, 2012 at 6:18AM EST1) "That was my best Burgess Meredith." Heh.
2) The douchey boyfriend doesn't know Gypsy, but Jim slips in a Brigadoon reference at the karaoke bar. Now I love musicals and old movies but its so typical Sorkin to make knowledge of 50-75 year old films one of his criteria for "good young person" versus "bad young person."
Ruth G. I love your screen name, Edith Keeler ( apologies if that's your real name).
July 9, 2012 at 12:01PM EST
I wish! Ha, no it is the obvious reference. ;-)
July 9, 2012 at 5:20PM ESTIntellectual Ninja
July 9, 2012 at 7:41AM EST Reply to CommentThe only question is, now that "Will" has shown us how corrupted the Tea Party is by having been taken over by outside interests, when will "Will" show us simpletons the SAME THING about the left's answer to the Tea Party, the Occupy Movement, which was co-opted by outside interests even quicker?
My guess is we won't, because if it's one thing Sorkin isn't interested in, it's ideological fairness, just his particular ideology.
TK "Ainsley Hayes" would beg to differ. I don't believe she lost a single argument on The West Wing and was always portrayed in a positive light.
July 9, 2012 at 8:06AM ESTLJA @Intellectual Ninja - Will's point was that the fringe Tea Party had taken over the legitimate GOP and was running actual candidates. Unless the Occupy Movement actually takes over the Democrats and starts running candidates from the Occupy movement over long-established Democrats, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.
July 9, 2012 at 12:20PM ESTkeith
July 9, 2012 at 8:15AM EST Reply to CommentIf the speechifying was done with more self-awareness and didn't always have inspirational music behind it, this could be a pretty good show.
keith I HATE that in their personal relationships, all the characters are teenagers. Why do this? Write grownups, Sorkin!
July 9, 2012 at 8:28AM ESTBrian H
July 9, 2012 at 8:58AM EST Reply to CommentI think this is a VASTLY watchable show. I think it's well put together, well acted, and the dialogue crackles, as expected from Sorkin. But at some point won't it get old to constantly watch the same people getting beat up by Sorkin for having different politics, regardless of that point of view. I just wonder if the watchability and creativeness will take a hit if we just keep seeing the same similar storylines.
MK
July 9, 2012 at 9:02AM EST Reply to CommentWhat's with all the women's characters having the same first and last initial in their names? It's incredibly annoying at this point.
Bill They're superheroes.
July 9, 2012 at 9:40AM ESTSara Except they're unable to save anyone because they're too busy being incompetent or emotionally unstable.
July 9, 2012 at 10:36AM ESTbigperm33
July 9, 2012 at 9:07AM EST Reply to CommentAfter three episodes, I feel as if I do not like most of what goes on in Newsroom. But each episodes has a few moments I really like. I watch it with my wife - for her, the bad far outweighs the good, and she is giving up. But for me, those few moments each show that stand out are enough (for now) for me to put up with the bad (such as last night Maggie's meltdown was terrible tv).
Walter Cronkite
July 9, 2012 at 9:20AM EST Reply to CommentI'm officially giving up on the show, but before I do I'll say this; I think my biggest issue is the characters' undeserved sense of entitlement/arrogance. This is exemplified by the fact that these people are supposedly "reporters" but there's no actual reporting on the show; rather, we get regurgitation of information that has been developed elsewhere. You don't see anyone going out and pounding the pavement, developing sources etc. Instead, when the show does "break" news, it's simply due to luck, e.g., Mr. Senior Producer having the good fortune to have a relative inside Halliburton. Or last night, w/ regard to the religion of the guy who foiled the bomb plot; that information wasn't gleaned from actual, on the street reporting or due diligence, but by a google search and a blog.
This is all just symptomatic of the overall laziness of the show. It's typical of what we've seen so far that Will, instead of doggedly developing a new style of show, instead ANNOUNCES that he's GOING to do a new style of show in another arrogant speech lacking any self awareness. This, despite the fact that, as Alan pointed out in the Arizona immigration caricature nuts episode, all evidence thus far points to the contrary.
Bill
July 9, 2012 at 9:26AM EST Reply to CommentThe leap forward in time was a very strange choice. I might have been okay with it if they had shown the news team starting to bond and work well together prior to the jump, but there wasn't really anything like that. Last we saw, they were a dysfunctional mess, yet they emerged at the end of this episode as a cohesive unit. It feels like their transformation would have been a good thing to show. Yes, the team managed to put together a solid newscast in the pilot, but that was based on extraordinary coincidence and didn't involve any of the characters introduced in episode 2. If they were just going to skip over the learning curve entirely, then what was the point of making most of the news team young and inexperienced? They could have just introduced all of them as news veterans and hit the ground running.
Ryan
July 9, 2012 at 9:47AM EST Reply to CommentI have gone back and forth on this show about 20 times in 3 weeks right now. I'm still watching but I legitimately don't know if I love it or hate it. But there was one moment in this episode that very nearly made me turn off the series for good:
"We are the media elite"
I'm sorry I found this line to be quite possibly the most insufferable thing I've ever heard. I know it's Sorkin and insufferable is what he does, but even for him that just felt outrageous, like an SNL skit of a self-righteous anchor or something. Hey, maybe he could have used that line for a Studio 60 skit. It certainly would have been better than any skit that show ever did.
Ryan, I hear ya on that comment. I initially thought the same thing. But don't you think that's what Will's character truly believes, that he is "elite" and the smartest person around (and therefore insufferable)? Or do you believe this is what Sorkin thinks? Can we separate Will from Sorkin or does Sorkin = Will? Now if Sorkin doesn't want us to see Will as insufferable so far then he has failed at that.
July 9, 2012 at 9:57AM ESTBartlett It's a recurring Sorkin theme; that smart people should be unapologetic for being smart, or "elite." It worked on shows like the West Wing, but not so much here.
July 9, 2012 at 10:00AM ESTCol Bat Guano "It certainly would have been better than any skit that show ever did."
July 9, 2012 at 11:31AM ESTCome on, you didn't like dolphin girl?
ajdoudt
July 9, 2012 at 9:48AM EST Reply to CommentIs it because we know so much about Sorkin (and his previous work) that we don't separate what the Will character says from Sorkin? Will is going through what seems like a mid-life professional crisis and with Charlie pulling the strings it's like Will is still feeling out what he wants to do (is it truly Will's desire to change or is it more Charlie's desire?)...so for Will to write an apology that is self-important, makes him seem awesome, and maybe misses the mark or comes across as "too much" is in tune with the Will character. He is self-important and thinks he is awesome, but he's also trying something different and might not make the best argument.
Is Sorkin writing the show within the show (News Night) so that it has some mistakes and growing pains like a real life show? I would find it hard to believe that a show trying to radically change their focus/format/belief system over night would immediately forget what they had done in the past. So these imperfect News Night shows, apology speeches, and Tea Party arguments go along with that for me. Maybe Sorkin isn't intending this though and I'm just reading too much into it. And leading the apology show with the Richard Clarke 9/11 clip would be something a News Night show would do...yes it's way over the top but that's what those shows do. It's an attention grabber and they are still trying to keep an audience. Now the question is, is that something Sorkin intended...To have News Night reverting back to the old way of sensationalizing something while trying to following it up with substance? Am I giving Sorkin too much credit?
As for the Tea Party material, Will's comments and interviews do seem a bit oversimplified and somewhat mean, but again these high profile News people like Bill O'Reilly have huge egos and want to look good so they often try and portray themselves as the smartest person in their interviews, cut people off, and make over simplified arguments. Even in this "new format" the show within the show is trying, it would still be hard to give Will a new on-air personality.
Fuzzy Dunlop
July 9, 2012 at 10:04AM EST Reply to CommentAlan, I'm curious: Would you still be reviewing the show if 1) it wasn't Sorkin writing it, or 2) it wasn't airing in the summer and there was more going on else where on Sunday nights? (e.g., Girls, Mad Men)?
At this point, I feel like the show simply doesn't stand on its own and is only being talked about by ANYONE because it's riding the coattails of Sorkin's early work and the HBO brand.
sepinwall You can't take 1 out of the equation, simply because Sorkin's presence makes it something I'd want to discuss not just from a career analysis standpoint, but because I find him an interesting writer, both when he's good and bad. There are a lot of shows I don't like that I have nothing to say about after a few weeks, but I wrote about virtually every episode of Studio 60. And I think the good parts of this show (the Waterston/Fonda scene last night, for instance) are much better than almost anything on Studio 60.
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