Morning TV Round-Up: '30 Rock' & 'The Office'
Liz and Criss want to get married, while Dunder-Mifflin builds a house of complaint cards
Tina Fey and James Marsden in "30 Rock."
It's morning round-up time, with thoughts on last night's "30 Rock" and "The Office" coming up just as soon as I talk on my Bluetooth to a guy at the octopus auction...
Tina Fey and Liz Lemon are not the same person, though they often share similar concerns and beliefs. It's not hard to look at a "30 Rock" episode like "Mazel Tov, Dummies" and imagine Fey the executive producer (and/or the episode's writer, Tracey Wigfield) and Liz the character struggling to reconcile their desire to have Liz be married and to have it not be a traditional wedding. And I think both pulled it off. Liz got to be a princess, but it was Princess Leia (the costume making its third appearance on the show, I believe, along with the second appearance of Saul Rosenbear), the rings were from a police auction (and one wasn't a ring but a grill), Dennis and his drunken wife and their adopted son Black Dennis were the witnesses along with Jack (who read from "The Fountainhead," because of course he did), and yet there was an obvious joy to it — and not just because Tony Bennett(*) was there to serenade the newlyweds. An amusing, sweet, very "30 Rock" approach to the kind of trope you so often see in a final sitcom season like this.
(*) Hands up, everyone who thought they would just put Alec Baldwin in his "SNL" Bennett makeup rather than produce the genuine article.
Tracy's misery at having to grow old and start living like an adult wasn't exactly a new theme for the show — we saw him go in a similar funk after he EGOTed — but the variations were amusing, and any chance to have Alec Baldwin play a great figure of American history — this time trying to sexily eat corn on the cob as Harriet Tubman — is a welcome one. Plus, that subplot in the same episode as the wedding meant we got the rare treat of a half hour featuring both Dennis and Dr. Spaceman.
Meanwhile, last night's "The Office" was one of the better outings of what's been an uneven but improved final season. Andy's off on his boat so that Ed Helms could go and do a movie (just as Jim's time in Philly will be used to justify the same for Krasinski), and his temporary absence has relaxed the atmosphere nicely and spread the wealth a bit more among the ensemble. The Jim/Phyllis/Stanley drunken lunch and Pete's house of complaint cards both felt like the kind of smaller stories the show would have told in its early days (though the latter made Pete even more blatantly into New Jim), and most of the characters have started to feel like themselves again.
Dwight arranging a hitman for Angela was definitely on the broader side of things, but I have to admit to laughing at their their attempt to get Toby (who, for some reason, has always been the person Dwight goes to with sex questions, going back to him asking, "What is the clitoris?" back in season 2's "Sexual Harassment") to explain gay sex to them. It's completely cartoonish, in the same way Kevin is now, yet sometimes a cartoonish gag on a realistic show can be pushed so far that it becomes funny despite not fitting in with the rest. And some of Angela's conversations in that story's second half were the most human she's been in a while.
What did everybody else think?
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Login or create a HitFix account Login SignupStephenH2OMan
November 30, 2012 at 10:50AM EST Reply to CommentWas it totally inappropriate of me to hope you opened these reviews with "as soon as I'm done red-vining"?
Oaktown Girl @Stephenh20man - OMG. That would have been the both the boldest and bluest opening yet.
November 30, 2012 at 6:57PM ESTI haven't seen the new 30 Rock yet, but I did watch the Office and found it pleasantly enjoyable. I agree, the absense of Andy seemed to give the episode more room to breathe. It had the nice feel of some of the earlier seasons. And the final scene with Toby as sex educator was just too priceless. Can anyone in the world do "Toby" better than Toby?
Mike
November 30, 2012 at 11:09AM EST Reply to CommentWhy were Jenna, Tracy et al not at the wedding? Seemed kind of off that her best friend wouldn't have received a call?
sepinwall I think Jack has usurped Jenna's role as best friend in all but title at this point, but you're right that she could have asked Jack to round up the others (especially since he can magically shift into his tuxedo like that).
November 30, 2012 at 11:10AM EST
I think it's fitting at this point. The Liz/Jack relationship has evolved to so much more than mentor/mentee that it feels right. Jack would have a vested interest in caring that Liz didn't just do a wedding to make a point and that she has one that has meaning. Jeanna and Tracy would only really care about how the wedding affected THEM, not Liz.
December 1, 2012 at 2:47AM ESTed w I liked that it wasn't the standard sitcom thing of the workplace people doing stuff like this together as a group. That's one aspect that has set this show apart from generic sitcoms.
December 1, 2012 at 3:24AM ESTKmarko
November 30, 2012 at 11:18AM EST Reply to CommentI've been with the Office from the beginning, so I'm going to see it through to the end.
Nice to have a few moments--like Jim's lunch with Stanley and Phyllis--that make it feel worthwhile.
It's amaazing how much better the show can be without Ed Helms (who I like.) We'll clearly have to suffer through another who-cares segment with Andy and Erin (as Erin's clearly falling for Pete), but the longer he stays on that boat the better.
Col Bat Guano It's amazing how much the absence of Ed Helms has helped the The Office these past couple of episodes. Not having to focus on Andy's issues has left room for other characters to stand out. I kind of think they punched the "New Jim" ticket a little too hard here, but anything is better than Andy and Erin.
November 30, 2012 at 11:47AM ESTJohnssson It's baffling that they spent two seasons feeding us the Andy/Erin -lovestory subplot and now they just decided to make Andy the jerk and this new guy is Erin's love interest. Does anyone care about these relationships?
December 2, 2012 at 10:03AM ESTKmarko Their "relationship" has always been so terrible. Just these endless arbitrary swings back and forth with one pursuing the other, all the while nobody caring. Andy and Erin are/were good supporting characters, not leads. Too late for any of this to make much difference, but we can at least hope the show's finish won't be featuring any of that in a prominent way.
December 2, 2012 at 10:25AM ESTbillypritchard
November 30, 2012 at 12:30PM EST Reply to CommentNo mention of Jenna and John Hodgman! It was a very very slight C-plot, but I thought the scene in Jack's office where they determine Jenna's worth in dollars was great. It was very Jenna that she liked the idea of being owned by someone, and then her dismay at seeing him ready to trade her in was perfect.
gladly I was a smidge disappointed in use of Hodgman. He's so absurd, he's just made for 30 Rock. This didn't feel like a great use of him to me. But, the idea of pairing Jane K. and JoHo is fantastic.
November 30, 2012 at 1:58PM ESTHaynie
November 30, 2012 at 1:12PM EST Reply to CommentAlan, do you have any idea what Office episodes were filmed while the Dwight spin-off was still on the table and where they stop, or has all of this been filmed for a while now? Curious if we see a shift in Schrute storylines that reflect the end of the spin-off plans.
jennyh I was wondering the same thing.
December 1, 2012 at 2:16AM ESTghoti
November 30, 2012 at 1:59PM EST Reply to CommentIt seems like Peter is being set up to be the new manager.
No version of Jim ever showed any leadership nor wanted more responsibility. When Kevin knocked down the card tower, Pete just instinctively took over and everyone bought in.
That's probably more thought than this show deserves, but I watched it, so whatever.
Col Bat Guano The Pete card tower was almost a shot-by-shot remake of Jim's office olympics from S2.
December 1, 2012 at 3:37AM ESTEd Johnson-Ott
November 30, 2012 at 2:14PM EST Reply to CommentLots of laughs in "The Office." Loved the hitman storyline and the physical comedy. One of the best episodes of this season.
Adam
November 30, 2012 at 2:19PM EST Reply to CommentAs a general rule, it's not a good idea to stick in one's mouth any item purchased at a police auction, no matter HOW special the day...
Karen
November 30, 2012 at 2:28PM EST Reply to CommentThe Office is so much better this season than it's been in a long while. It definitely feels like the characters are more themselves. I'm happy to have my beloved show ending on a high note. (Even if the ratings are horrible).
Jim
November 30, 2012 at 4:00PM EST Reply to CommentI'm in the stick-with-it-to-the-end club, and it's almost sad how much better this show is without Ed Helms/Andy. I don't want to blame Ed Helms for a lot of poor choices by the writers/producers, but going back to the "Date Mike" episode, the whole Andy/Erin storyline has been weak to the point of annoying, but it did pay off in Erin's realization that she's wasting her time with Andy, which has had some nice moments for Ellie Kemper. And it's always fun for me to see Phyllis and Stanley acting a little nuts, especially in tandem.
Alan
November 30, 2012 at 4:18PM EST Reply to CommentI would have loved to have seen Phony Bennett sign with Tony Bennett
Alan I mean sing, of course
November 30, 2012 at 4:19PM ESTMindgrapes
November 30, 2012 at 5:13PM EST Reply to CommentI feel like it should it be noted that Dennis had provided Black Dennis with orange soda to drink.
Now that's a "Black Coffee" (see previous episode)
November 30, 2012 at 6:03PM ESTsajid anwar
November 30, 2012 at 5:17PM EST Reply to CommentThis Andy/Erin thing has been going on for about 3 years now, right? What I don't understand is why the show-runners fail to realize that overwhelming majority of voters simply don't care about the fate of this couple? I understand that as a show-runner you don't want to go down the dangerous path of focus-grouping your audience about every decision you make, but surely you must know by now that how you view Erin/Andy storyline is not how it is being viewed by your audience.
sepinwall If I were a betting man, I would bet that Paul Lieberstein was the big Andy/Erin fan, and Greg Daniels is just working with the stories and characters Paul left him. That Erin is so obviously interested in Pete is perhaps a suggestion not of another crisis in the Andy/Erin story, but (hope hope hope) its end.
November 30, 2012 at 7:29PM ESTCol Bat Guano I think Daniels has done an excellent job of killing off the Andy/Erin relationship in only 7 episodes. At least (like Alan) I hope that is what he is doing. The thing I can't understand is how Lieberstein thought dragging that dull relationship out so long was a good idea. There was literally no high point to it in over three seasons.
December 1, 2012 at 3:44AM ESTKaren It's nice to read other thought the Andy/Erin story was a big downer. Last season I couldn't even watch anymore. Thankfully Greg has it right so far and we are getting a great farewell season.
December 2, 2012 at 12:03PM ESTJohn What's obvious to me is that Daniels came back and brought with him the qualities that made Andy uniquely Andy - namely, that he's kind of a spoiled jerk with rage issues, and a big heart was revealed underneath that.
December 12, 2012 at 1:34PM ESTIn these episodes, Daniels is reintroducing Andy's unique flaws and throwing out the "Michael lite" qualities, basically resulting in the version of Andy that technically should have already been existing.
Daniels has also always been bigger with pathos than Lieberstein, so there is a part of me thinking that Andy is going to be the character on this show that proves incapable of change and gets the sad, Mark McKinny-on-Slings And Arrows-style end of storyline. It would be the slight twinge of sadness the series finale of a show like this would really need.
amg
December 1, 2012 at 12:32AM EST Reply to CommentI enjoyed Dwight's brief mention of "there's this documentary crew that's been following us around for the past 9 years, but I think we lost them." A small bit of self-awareness, but a long overdue one, I think. And hopefully setting the stage for something coming of the documentary in the end.
jennyh I didn't care for it -- unlike when Michael made the nod in his farewell airport scene, I though that kind of lampshading was out of place in a scene as broad as that one in the van was.
December 1, 2012 at 2:18AM ESTGazzoo Awareness of the documentary crew didn't seem to deter Dwight from going spread-eagled naked in the warehouse...
December 1, 2012 at 1:09PM ESTAdam K
December 2, 2012 at 1:43AM EST Reply to CommentUm.. you forgot It's Always Sunny
normsunshine1
December 3, 2012 at 1:14AM EST Reply to Commentthe scene with dwight and angela in the warehouse discussing their mutual hatred of jazz was priceless - "Why don't they just PLAY THE NOTES?!?" Brilliant work by both
JREinATL
December 3, 2012 at 4:01PM EST Reply to CommentA spin-off starring Dennis and Black Dennis would be the beginning of NBC's return to comedy domination.
Just sayin'.