I want to expand on what you said about dealing with the evolution of real human beings and how it doesn’t play out as simply or as easily as it does in drama. As a dramatist trying to turn this into a weekly series for hopefully a number of years, how do you deal with that so it doesn’t feel repetitive in some way where the audience just thinks “Oh God, just Bill get over yourself”? 
 
Michelle Ashford:   Our are wondering about this and we can talk about this endlessly. And Michael Sheen is very committed to the notion that this is gonna be a really slow thing. And I agree with him. You don’t want to speed the “a ha!” moment and then everything shift. It is about showing how complicated a transformation is in a human being – any of us. How hard it is to change. But what’s really interesting is to look at it, say, “Oh, that guy we saw in the first year is so different from the guy we’re seeing in year six.” If we go that long. That’s such a different man. It’s our job to make it fascinating. That’s all I can say. There were similar struggles probably with “Breaking Bad.” Walter White is making a transformation and how do you keep people riveted for six years in an incremental thing? Hopefully we’ll do it all right. And every time it’s like, “Oh God, this again,” I’m sure someone will send up a flag.
 
Well, “Breaking Bad” could cheat in a way, because even if Walter White is changing slowly, they could always blow something up or put Danny Trejos’s head on a turtle and then blow that up too. What’s your equivalent of that?
 
Michelle Ashford:   That’s true. I’m very envious of having a big fat meth lab that you can blow up. It does help you out sometimes. All I can say is we just have to work really hard and we have to find different ways of showing it. But what we really do need to do is to show what the struggle is. Do people see themselves in the struggle? They understand these impulses and then why somebody would try to cover their tracks quickly and that they kind of keep coming maybe in different forms. And then he surprises us by behaving one way and then he just surprises himself and he acts like a complete ass. So hopefully it will be interesting. But it is hard. It is really hard. I can only tell you it just requires many many hours of just going, “Okay, how do we do this in a way that feels fresh?”