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Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, episode 134: 'Mad Men' finale, 'Bunheads,' 'Dallas' & 'Falling Skies'

Dan and Alan also review the 'Teacher's Pet' episode of 'Buffy' season 1

By Alan Sepinwall Monday, Jun 11, 2012 5:20 PM

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Last week, we did two installments of the Firewall & Iceberg Podcast: one where we went on at some length and depth about "Game of Thrones" and "Mad Men," the other with quick hit reviews of new and returning shows. This week's only podcast is a blend of the two, with brief-ish reviews of "Bunheads," "Dallas" and "Falling Skies," plus a longer discussion of the "Mad Men" finale and this week's "Buffy" chatter.

The line-up:

"Bunheads" (00:00:40 - 00:16:45)

"Dallas" (00:16:45 - 00:29:55)

"Falling Skies" (00:30:00 - 00:38:50)

"Mad Men" finale (00:39:40 - 01:11:45)

Buffy: "Teacher's Pet" (01:11:45 - 01:22:00)

As always, you can subscribe to The Firewall & Iceberg Podcast over at the iTunes Store, where you can also rate us and comment on us. Or you can always follow our RSS Feed, download the MP3 file or stream it on Dan's blog.

And as always, feel free to e-mail us questions for the podcast.

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Alan Sepinwall has been reviewing television since the mid-'90s, first for Tony Soprano's hometown paper, The Star-Ledger, and now for HitFix. His new book, "The Revolution Was Televised," about the last 15 years of TV drama, is for sale at Amazon. He can be reached at sepinwall@hitfix.com

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Jack

Um... in what part of the podcast do you talk about the Mad Men finale? Is it at the end, but you forgot to list it?
June 11, 2012 at 5:43PM EST Reply to Comment
- Tom Alan,
  You put last week's minutes on this post. Dan has this week's minutes on his post: http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-print/listen-firewall-iceberg-podcast-no-134
  June 11, 2012 at 5:46PM EST
JohnChoiniere

It might be noticed anyway, but the time-stamps listed in the post above are incorrect. They refer to last week's second podcast, I think.
June 11, 2012 at 5:44PM EST Reply to Comment
JordanFromJersey

So just to be clear, it's the same content? Or this is a separate recording discussing the same topics?
June 11, 2012 at 5:45PM EST Reply to Comment
- JordanFromJersey - Why would those two options be more likely than Alan just putting in the wrong times?
  
  -Daniel
  June 11, 2012 at 5:50PM EST
- JordanFromJersey They're not, I just didn't think of that possibility.
  June 11, 2012 at 6:05PM EST
dan

It's fixed! It's fixed! Alan just cut-and-pasted last week's times instead of this week's times. The right times are there now...

-Daniel
June 11, 2012 at 5:48PM EST Reply to Comment
alf

The shwarma was definitely a highlight of this Buffy episode. As for the clothes, Angel had to revert to his velvet jacket because he gave Buffy the leather one. She had on a tummy-bearing top that I don't think most schools would allow.

I think the vamp slaying was still evolving. You could ignore the one in Xander's dream because it was a dream, but I don't think there was any "dusting."
June 11, 2012 at 7:23PM EST Reply to Comment
keith

If you have the American DVD boxset of Buffy, on the extra disc roundtable chat Joss apparently tells the backstory of shawarma. I read that on Whedonesque so it must be true.
June 11, 2012 at 7:54PM EST Reply to Comment
Owen

Regarding Buffy, my recollection is that episode 8 "I, Robot...You, Jane" has even worse special effects than "Teacher's Pet". I'll be interested to hear whether you agree when you get there.
June 11, 2012 at 10:29PM EST Reply to Comment
Jack

Alan, Dan you're criticism of the 1st season of Buffy are eerily similar to your criticisms of Grimm. Hopefully that's a good sign for Grimm later on.
June 11, 2012 at 11:15PM EST Reply to Comment
- sepinwall No, because even at this awkward stage, Buffy had Sarah Michelle Gellar. Grimm has David Giuntoli.
  June 12, 2012 at 8:09AM EST
- mcm99 I really don't think Giuntoli is that bad and I think there are some pretty great supporting and guest characters to even it out. I am really suprised Grimm has gotten so little critical press of any kind.
  June 12, 2012 at 2:41PM EST
alf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JM-28OgQUf8 I just found this video of Community's credits in the style of Buffy. I found it at Mark Watches Buffy. He's in season 5 now, but here's the link to his thoughts on ep.4: http://markwatches.net/reviews/2011/12/mark-watches-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-s01e04-teachers-pet/
June 13, 2012 at 4:19AM EST Reply to Comment

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Jack

Um... in what part of the podcast do you talk about the Mad Men finale? Is it at the end, but you forgot to list it?

Tom Alan,
You put last week's minutes on this post. Dan has this week's minutes on his post: http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-print/listen-firewall-iceberg-podcast-no-134

JohnChoiniere

It might be noticed anyway, but the time-stamps listed in the post above are incorrect. They refer to last week's second podcast, I think.

JordanFromJersey

So just to be clear, it's the same content? Or this is a separate recording discussing the same topics?

JordanFromJersey - Why would those two options be more likely than Alan just putting in the wrong times?

-Daniel

JordanFromJersey They're not, I just didn't think of that possibility.

dan

It's fixed! It's fixed! Alan just cut-and-pasted last week's times instead of this week's times. The right times are there now...

-Daniel

keith

If you have the American DVD boxset of Buffy, on the extra disc roundtable chat Joss apparently tells the backstory of shawarma. I read that on Whedonesque so it must be true.

Owen

Regarding Buffy, my recollection is that episode 8 "I, Robot...You, Jane" has even worse special effects than "Teacher's Pet". I'll be interested to hear whether you agree when you get there.

Jack

Alan, Dan you're criticism of the 1st season of Buffy are eerily similar to your criticisms of Grimm. Hopefully that's a good sign for Grimm later on.

sepinwall No, because even at this awkward stage, Buffy had Sarah Michelle Gellar. Grimm has David Giuntoli.

mcm99 I really don't think Giuntoli is that bad and I think there are some pretty great supporting and guest characters to even it out. I am really suprised Grimm has gotten so little critical press of any kind.

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Jack Um... in what part of the podcast do you talk about the Mad Men finale? Is it at the end, but you forgot to list it?

Tom Alan,You put last week's minutes on this post. Dan has this week's minutes on his post: http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-print/listen-firewall-iceberg-podcast-no-134

JohnChoiniere It might be noticed anyway, but the time-stamps listed in the post above are incorrect. They refer to last week's second podcast, I think.

JordanFromJersey So just to be clear, it's the same content? Or this is a separate recording discussing the same topics?

JordanFromJersey - Why would those two options be more likely than Alan just putting in the wrong times?-Daniel

JordanFromJersey They're not, I just didn't think of that possibility.

dan It's fixed! It's fixed! Alan just cut-and-pasted last week's times instead of this week's times. The right times are there now...-Daniel

keith If you have the American DVD boxset of Buffy, on the extra disc roundtable chat Joss apparently tells the backstory of shawarma. I read that on Whedonesque so it must be true.

Owen Regarding Buffy, my recollection is that episode 8 "I, Robot...You, Jane" has even worse special effects than "Teacher's Pet". I'll be interested to hear whether you agree when you get there.

Jack Alan, Dan you're criticism of the 1st season of Buffy are eerily similar to your criticisms of Grimm. Hopefully that's a good sign for Grimm later on.

sepinwall No, because even at this awkward stage, Buffy had Sarah Michelle Gellar. Grimm has David Giuntoli.

mcm99 I really don't think Giuntoli is that bad and I think there are some pretty great supporting and guest characters to even it out. I am really suprised Grimm has gotten so little critical press of any kind.

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Jack

Um... in what part of the podcast do you talk about the Mad Men finale? Is it at the end, but you forgot to list it?

Tom Alan,
You put last week's minutes on this post. Dan has this week's minutes on his post: http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-print/listen-firewall-iceberg-podcast-no-134

JohnChoiniere

It might be noticed anyway, but the time-stamps listed in the post above are incorrect. They refer to last week's second podcast, I think.

JordanFromJersey

So just to be clear, it's the same content? Or this is a separate recording discussing the same topics?

JordanFromJersey - Why would those two options be more likely than Alan just putting in the wrong times?

-Daniel

dan

It's fixed! It's fixed! Alan just cut-and-pasted last week's times instead of this week's times. The right times are there now...

-Daniel

keith

If you have the American DVD boxset of Buffy, on the extra disc roundtable chat Joss apparently tells the backstory of shawarma. I read that on Whedonesque so it must be true.

Owen

Regarding Buffy, my recollection is that episode 8 "I, Robot...You, Jane" has even worse special effects than "Teacher's Pet". I'll be interested to hear whether you agree when you get there.

Jack

Alan, Dan you're criticism of the 1st season of Buffy are eerily similar to your criticisms of Grimm. Hopefully that's a good sign for Grimm later on.

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