Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, episode 121: 'Game of Thrones,' 'The Killing,' 'Mad Men' premiere & more

Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, episode 121: 'Game of Thrones,' 'The Killing,' 'Mad Men' premiere & more

Dan and Alan also discuss the 'Luck' and 'River' finales, and apologize to... Dermot Mulroney?

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Beginnings and endings consume this week's Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, as we begin what should be 12 straight weeks of "Mad Men" episode discussion with the premiere, talk about the returns of "Game of Thrones" and "The Killing," look at the probable series finale of "The River" and the definite finale of "Luck." And I also take a moment to apologize to frequent podcast punching bag Dermot Mulroney.

The line-up: 

Dermott Mulroney on "New Girl" (00:01:25 - 00:06:55)
"The Killing" (00:07:00 - 00:21:15)
"Game of Thrones" (00:21:15 - 00:33:40)
Listener Mail - CBS Sunday Delays (00:33:45 - 00:39:10)
"The River" finale (00:39:20 - 00:51:10)
"Luck" finale (00:51:10 - 01:08:30)
"Mad Men" premiere (01:08:30 - 01:34:40)
 
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<p>Jessica Par&eacute; as Megan singing &quot;Zou Bisou Bisou&quot;&nbsp;in the &quot;Mad Men&quot;&nbsp;season premiere.</p>

Jessica Paré as Megan singing "Zou Bisou Bisou" in the "Mad Men" season premiere.

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Interview: 'Mad Men' co-star Jessica Paré on Megan, Don and 'Zou Bisou Bisou'

When did she find out about Don and Megan? And what was it like to serenade the cast?

Having already reviewed the "Mad Men" season premiere and interviewed Matt Weiner and John Slattery about different aspects of the premiere, I had time for one more "Mad Men"-related conversation today, with the show's newest regular cast member — and one of last night's most prominent — Jessica Paré. I spoke with Paré about how Megan went from a minor character (described in the casting notes, simply, as "brunette") to her current status, how Megan feels about Don (and vice versa), and, of course, both "Zou Bisou Bisou" and the apartment cleaning scene (embedded below), all coming up just as soon as I bring things down to a sotto voce...

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<p>John Slattery as Roger Sterling on &quot;Mad Men.&quot;</p>

John Slattery as Roger Sterling on "Mad Men."

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Interview: 'Mad Men' co-star John Slattery

What's Roger's place in the agency now? And how was it directing another episode this season?

After I watched the "Mad Men" premiere (which I reviewed here), I did a couple of interviews about the events of it that I agreed to run the morning after it aired. One was with creator Matthew Weiner, and this one is with Roger Sterling himself, John Slattery. Slattery and I spoke about Roger's position in the agency, his reaction to a familiar character's return to the office, and, in non-spoiler territory, about his experience directing his third episode this season (he and I discussed his directorial debut last season), and how Jon Hamm did when he followed in Slattery's footsteps and got behind the camera, all coming up just as soon as I buy myself a very beautiful picture of something to look at...

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<p>Matthew Perry and Julianna Margulies in &quot;The Good Wife.&quot;</p>

Matthew Perry and Julianna Margulies in "The Good Wife."

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'The Good Wife' - 'Blue-Ribbon Panel': Could I BE any more of a tool?

Matthew Perry and Charles Dutton guest star in a busy, memorable hour

It was a busy Sunday night for scripted drama, between the "Mad Men" premiere and the "Luck" finale, but last night's excellent "The Good Wife" shouldn't be lost in the shuffle. A quick review coming up just as soon as I yield my five minutes to you...

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<p>Was it a different Don Draper (Jon Hamm)&nbsp;we saw in the &quot;Mad Men&quot;&nbsp;season premiere?</p>

Was it a different Don Draper (Jon Hamm) we saw in the "Mad Men" season premiere?

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Interview: 'Mad Men' creator Matthew Weiner on the season 5 premiere

On the date, the agency, Megan and more

"Mad Men" creator Matthew Weiner is famously tight-lipped about what's happening on the show before it airs, but he was willing to talk to me about the events of the season 5 premiere (which I reviewed here), provided I posted the interview the morning after it aired. So here's Weiner discussing why the season is set when it's set, why not every character appeared in the premiere, and more, all coming up just as soon as we all go water skiing together...

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<p>The Cosgroves and the Campbells get their party best on for the &quot;Mad Men&quot;&nbsp;season premiere. </p>

The Cosgroves and the Campbells get their party best on for the "Mad Men" season premiere.

Credit: AMC

Season premiere review: 'Mad Men' - 'A Little Kiss'

Happiness is more dream than reality for Don, Joan, Roger and friends

"Mad Men" is finally back after 17 months, and I have a review of the premiere episode coming up just as soon as I have tickets to the bean ballet...

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<p>Dennis Farina and John Ortiz in &quot;Luck.&quot;</p>

Dennis Farina and John Ortiz in "Luck."

Credit: HBO

Series finale review: 'Luck' - 'Episode 9': It takes two

The horses and their owners thrill in their last day in the sun

And so "Luck" has ended earlier than anyone expected or planned for. I interviewed series creator David Milch about the abrupt end, and I have a review of the series finale coming up just as soon as we can afford multiple hot tubs...

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<p>The horses of &quot;Luck.&quot;</p>

The horses of "Luck."

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Interview: 'Luck' creator David Milch on the series' premature end

Would he have made the call to cancel? And how does this compare to the 'Deadwood' finale?

Though there are a few moments in tonight's "Luck" suggesting creator David Milch had a premonition that the series would be abruptly canceled due to the third horse death during production, Milch told me in an interview on Friday that he never had it in his mind that this would be a series finale. (You can read my finale review here.) In fact, if the ultimate decision-making power on this fell in Milch's hands, the show would have continued, though he says he understands and supports what HBO chose to do.

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<p>&quot;Archer&quot;&nbsp;edged out &quot;Louie&quot;&nbsp;last week; can it beat &quot;Modern Family&quot;&nbsp;in this round?</p>

"Archer" edged out "Louie" last week; can it beat "Modern Family" in this round?

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Hulu's Best in Show moves into round 3

Can Walter White take out SAMCRO? Can Sterling Archer defeat Phil Dunphy?

I've been working on the road the last couple of days (which is also why I'm skipping "30 Rock" reviews this week; I haven't seen the episodes), and a few things get lost in the shuffle when you're on the move. One of those is my weekly check-in on Hulu's Best in Show contest, which I continue to serve as guest judge for, and which has just moved into the third round.

Among last week's notable results: "Archer"(*) edged out "Louie," "Community" solidly beat "Parks and Recreation," and "The Walking Dead" beat "Fringe." 

(*) Which I am many weeks behind on, and will catch up on eventually when I am in need of several hours of concentrated, explosive laughter.

Thus far, "Archer" is beating "Modern Family," when "MF" has to this point done very well against various cult-y competition, "Community" is thumping "New Girl," "Game of Thrones" is losing by a good margin to "Sons of Anarchy" and "Breaking Bad" is neck-and-neck with "The Walking Dead" 

If you are displeased with any or all of those results, now is the time to go vote, and we'll be back next week (and hopefully on Thursday morning again) to discuss the final four.

<p>Vincent Kartheiser as Pete Campbell in &quot;Mad Men.&quot;</p>

Vincent Kartheiser as Pete Campbell in "Mad Men."

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Interview: 'Mad Men' co-star Vincent Kartheiser

How has Pete changed since 1960? And why didn't anyone join him in pranking Jon Hamm?

I published my spoiler-free review of the "Mad Men" season premiere yesterday. Earlier this week, I got a chance to interview creator Matthew Weiner and co-star John Slattery about the events of the premiere, and those interviews should run sometime Monday morning. But I decided that, given the appetite for "Mad Men" info after 17 long months between episodes, I should conduct at least one interview in a way that it could be safely published before the premiere. And our lucky winner was Vincent Kartheiser, aka Pete Campbell (of the Dyckman-Campbells).

After the jump, Kartheiser and I talk about Pete's evolution from corporate weasel to unsung hero of Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce, about how Pete feels these days about Peggy, and also about how the rest of the cast hung him out to dry when Jon Hamm directed an episode this season. Enjoy, and I'll see you all here on Sunday night to discuss the premiere.

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