Listen: Firewall & Iceberg Podcast No. 164
Dan and Alan talk 'Justified,' 'Deception,' 'Downton Abbey,' 'Bunheads' and more

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Login or create a HitFix account Login Signupolivia
January 3, 2013 at 5:14PM EST Reply to CommentYou guys are mean, Edith isn't ugly at all, she's just not as goergeous as her sisters.
dan Olivia - Alan would, I'm sure, want to make clear that only *I* am mean. He loves Lady Edith and respects her immensely.
January 3, 2013 at 5:18PM EST-Daniel
olivia Well then he payed you a compliment, although I don't find that you and lady Edith share many personality traits. :)
January 3, 2013 at 7:00PM ESTdan Olivia - I think Lady Edith and I share a fear that we're going to die along as spinsters... We've definitely got that in common.
January 3, 2013 at 8:41PM EST-Daniel
sauloccl
January 3, 2013 at 7:27PM EST Reply to CommentSomeone needs to make a "Leave Edith alone" video and put it on YouTube.
Good Lord, can we already give "Deception" the title of Worst Show of 2013?
I hated everything about it: that Joanna girl is such a terrible cop! She was chasing a woman and says something like: "Where are you going? You're not wearing pants!" Did she think the woman would realize that, get suddenly ashamed and turn herself? And after she is captured, why is that poor woman punched in the face? That journalist guy (the only interesting character of the show, in my opinion) discovers that Joanna is a cop within a couple of hours!!! And her scene with the stapler was so bad that became hilarious.
Victor Garber is only 14 years older than Tate Donovan (or so says IMDB)! They look like brothers, not father and son! The entire Bowers clan is a mess. There's not a single likeable character here. And poor Tate Donovan! His character really looks like he is keeping a prostitute on a cage under his bed.
dan SaulOccl - It annoys me a good deal less than several shows that are premiering later in the year, including at least one that's going to get more than its fair share of rave reviews...
January 3, 2013 at 8:42PM EST-Daniel
sauloccl What show are you referring to? Is it "The Following"?
January 3, 2013 at 9:17PM ESTWell, anyway, I certainly don't want to watch a show worse than Deception, so I won't watch any new show until I listen your commentaries.
is that a fair metrics, the fact that other shows are worse?!? i'm getting really annoyed with the People in Charge turning out such cruddy TV.
January 4, 2013 at 5:32AM ESTthere is better TV out there but the contrast between this silly badly constructed stuff and the good stuff is pretty ridiculous.
Bill
January 3, 2013 at 9:20PM EST Reply to CommentYou guys occasionally dabble in non-TV related topics on this podcast. Any chance you'll give us your belated opinions on The Hobbit?
dan Bill - Neither of us has seen it!
January 3, 2013 at 9:44PM EST-Daniel
Mia Monroe I'd be more interested in a little Les Miserables discussion, myself.
January 3, 2013 at 10:10PM EST
when the talent drain has truly gone the way of TV -- and i personally am not giving money to any of these event movies -- i'm okay with the focus on TV only.
January 4, 2013 at 5:29AM ESTit would be abject torture to watch Les Miz, for me. gads that looks awful.
Lisa
January 5, 2013 at 12:55AM EST Reply to CommentSuper happy we get to see Wynn Duffy again.
and yeah, don't think I'm going to complain about Raylan still being in shape despite him going to seed.. I truly have no problem with that whatsoever.
Tyler
January 5, 2013 at 3:29PM EST Reply to CommentI just remembered that Kristin Wigg was on the first season of The Joe Schmo Show, I recall one of the challenges when Matt destroyed Wigg and sent her to the hospital. Who knew that she would be such a huge star now.
David And Cricket from Always Sunny was also on!
January 7, 2013 at 7:51PM ESTJC
January 7, 2013 at 12:30AM EST Reply to CommentToo bad there weren't any Decepticons in Deception, might've made it more interesting ;)
OnlyMe
January 14, 2013 at 4:33PM EST Reply to CommentThanks for recommending the Joe Schmo show - Lorenzo Lamas is one of the funniest things I've seen on TV recently. (Those are 13 words I'd never thought I'd type).