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Listen: Firewall & Iceberg Podcast No. 164

Dan and Alan talk 'Justified,' 'Deception,' 'Downton Abbey,' 'Bunheads' and more

By Daniel Fienberg Thursday, Jan 3, 2013 2:45 PM

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Happy New Year, Boys & Girls!
 
It's our first 2013 installment of The Firewall & Iceberg Podcast.
 
Sepinwall is flying out to LA for the Television Critics Association press tour and we'll probably record multiple in-person podcasts in the next couple weeks. However, we decided that we didn't know when our first podcast window would be and there are too many shows premiering between Sunday and Tuesday and we didn't want to risk missing them. 
 
So this podcast is all reviews. Six of 'em! We talk about the new seasons of "Downton Abbey," "Justified," "Cougar Town" and "The Joe Schmo Show." We also check in on the midseason return of ABC Family's "Bunheads" and on the series premiere of NBC's "Deception." That's a fair amount to cover. 
 
Here's the breakdown:
"Downton Abbey" (00:02:08 - 00:18:45)
"Bunheads" (00:18:47 - 00:26:27)
"Deception" (00:26:28 - 00:33:20)
"Justified" (00:33:28 - 00:44:53)
"The Joe Schmo Show" (00:44:54 - 00:55:20)
"Cougar Town" (00:55:22 - 00:1:04:00)

 

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Firewall & Iceberg - Podcast 164

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Daniel Fienberg
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A long-time member of the TCA Board and a longer-time blogger of "American Idol," Dan Fienberg writes about TV, except for when he writes about movies or sometimes writes about the Red Sox. But never music. He would sound stupid talking about music.
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    olivia

    You guys are mean, Edith isn't ugly at all, she's just not as goergeous as her sisters.

    January 3, 2013 at 5:14PM EST Reply to Comment
    • Gizmo_bigger_talkback_profile

      dan Olivia - Alan would, I'm sure, want to make clear that only *I* am mean. He loves Lady Edith and respects her immensely.

      -Daniel

      January 3, 2013 at 5:18PM EST
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      olivia Well then he payed you a compliment, although I don't find that you and lady Edith share many personality traits. :)

      January 3, 2013 at 7:00PM EST
    • Gizmo_bigger_talkback_profile

      dan Olivia - I think Lady Edith and I share a fear that we're going to die along as spinsters... We've definitely got that in common.

      -Daniel

      January 3, 2013 at 8:41PM EST
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    sauloccl

    Someone needs to make a "Leave Edith alone" video and put it on YouTube.

    Good Lord, can we already give "Deception" the title of Worst Show of 2013?

    I hated everything about it: that Joanna girl is such a terrible cop! She was chasing a woman and says something like: "Where are you going? You're not wearing pants!" Did she think the woman would realize that, get suddenly ashamed and turn herself? And after she is captured, why is that poor woman punched in the face? That journalist guy (the only interesting character of the show, in my opinion) discovers that Joanna is a cop within a couple of hours!!! And her scene with the stapler was so bad that became hilarious.

    Victor Garber is only 14 years older than Tate Donovan (or so says IMDB)! They look like brothers, not father and son! The entire Bowers clan is a mess. There's not a single likeable character here. And poor Tate Donovan! His character really looks like he is keeping a prostitute on a cage under his bed.

    January 3, 2013 at 7:27PM EST Reply to Comment
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      dan SaulOccl - It annoys me a good deal less than several shows that are premiering later in the year, including at least one that's going to get more than its fair share of rave reviews...

      -Daniel

      January 3, 2013 at 8:42PM EST
    • Dwight-schrute_talkback_profile

      sauloccl What show are you referring to? Is it "The Following"?

      Well, anyway, I certainly don't want to watch a show worse than Deception, so I won't watch any new show until I listen your commentaries.

      January 3, 2013 at 9:17PM EST

    • is that a fair metrics, the fact that other shows are worse?!? i'm getting really annoyed with the People in Charge turning out such cruddy TV.

      there is better TV out there but the contrast between this silly badly constructed stuff and the good stuff is pretty ridiculous.

      January 4, 2013 at 5:32AM EST
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    Bill

    You guys occasionally dabble in non-TV related topics on this podcast. Any chance you'll give us your belated opinions on The Hobbit?

    January 3, 2013 at 9:20PM EST Reply to Comment
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      dan Bill - Neither of us has seen it!

      -Daniel

      January 3, 2013 at 9:44PM EST
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      Mia Monroe I'd be more interested in a little Les Miserables discussion, myself.

      January 3, 2013 at 10:10PM EST

    • when the talent drain has truly gone the way of TV -- and i personally am not giving money to any of these event movies -- i'm okay with the focus on TV only.

      it would be abject torture to watch Les Miz, for me. gads that looks awful.

      January 4, 2013 at 5:29AM EST
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    Lisa

    Super happy we get to see Wynn Duffy again.

    and yeah, don't think I'm going to complain about Raylan still being in shape despite him going to seed.. I truly have no problem with that whatsoever.

    January 5, 2013 at 12:55AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Tyler

    I just remembered that Kristin Wigg was on the first season of The Joe Schmo Show, I recall one of the challenges when Matt destroyed Wigg and sent her to the hospital. Who knew that she would be such a huge star now.

    January 5, 2013 at 3:29PM EST Reply to Comment
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      David And Cricket from Always Sunny was also on!

      January 7, 2013 at 7:51PM EST
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    JC

    Too bad there weren't any Decepticons in Deception, might've made it more interesting ;)

    January 7, 2013 at 12:30AM EST Reply to Comment
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    OnlyMe

    Thanks for recommending the Joe Schmo show - Lorenzo Lamas is one of the funniest things I've seen on TV recently. (Those are 13 words I'd never thought I'd type).

    January 14, 2013 at 4:33PM EST Reply to Comment

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