Is Brandi being honest or libelous on 'The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills'?
The women discuss what's okay to reveal to the cameras - and what's not
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After last week's blow-out on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills," this week's episode was positively cuddly by comparison. Kyle has a dinner party, Faye Resnick (whom I don't know beyond her involvement in the O.J. Simpson murder trial and decorating Kyle's dining room, and I'm really not sure which gig most offends my sensibilities) tells Brandi she was cruel to Adrienne, and Brandi leaves. The end. Adrienne never even shows up to said party, not wanting to be face-to-face with Brandi. I guess there's only so many screaming arguments a housewife is contractually required to dive into per season, and Brandi has probably already over delivered.
A few other things happen; Kim works out, Yolanda works out, Ken begs Lisa to get him tea. Yawn. What's interesting in this episode is that, immediately following the screaming match (Paul and Adrienne v. Brandi), we learn that there is honor among, if not thieves, the veddy rich of reality TV.
Taylor, who is so overwhelmed by people yelling she practically collapses at Mauricio's party (This is all about me! It isn't? Well, it feels that way!), tries to get in on the action by declaring that, even though she knows ALL sorts of horrid secrets about her fellow housewives, she would NEVER reveal them! That's simply gauche! And all I can think is, this is what it looks like when these crazy women show restraint?
It's then that we get into a breakdown of what is okay to reveal on national television (almost everything) and what isn't (you know, the juicy stuff that can be sold to the tabloids). Camille, whom we all remember outing Taylor as a victim of domestic abuse, feels that Brandi was in the wrong for blurting out Adrienne's alleged secret (or, if you're buying Adrienne and Paul's take on things, Brandi's malicious lie about their family). It would be possible to compare and contrast if we only knew what this mysterious revelation was, but no dice.
In any case, the actual content of the skeleton being rattled (or alleged skeleton, or fake skeleton, or whatever) isn't really salient to Camille's argument. She feels that Adrienne hadn't blabbed about whatever this is to all of the other girls in the Housewives group, and thus her privacy should be respected. Taylor, on the other hand, couldn't shut up about how her late husband was beating the crap out of her -- unless the cameras were rolling. "There's a big difference, big time," Camille says. It is?
I have to wonder if these very fine lines drawn in the sand aren't a little difficult to keep track of. Does the revelation have to take place in front of multiple housewives to make it TV-worthy, or does one have to check in with each housewife to make sure they've also been informed that, say, Adrienne fatally stabs wait staff with her enormous high heels before you can blab it to the cameras? It all seems a little sketchy, and I have to wonder what could possibly be so scandalous that these narcissistic nutjobs would hesitate before talking about it to the universe. Porn careers? Child beating? Compulsive nose picking? Seriously, what?
In the interview room, Adrienne kept talking about Brandi's "disrespect" and how her words have harmed her "reputation," and I have to say, it's not like Adrienne is a surgeon snorting coke between patients. I can't even imagine what Adrienne would have to do to sully her reputation enough to hurt her rich-girl dabbling in fashion, film and marketing. I mean, knowing that she washes chicken with antibacterial soap, I probably wouldn't buy a cookbook she'd written, but that's about it.
So, the elephant in the room -- Adrienne's dark secret (or, depending on what you believe, the horrible lie Brandi told about Adrienne) is sitting down and getting comfortable, maybe eating some peanuts for a snack. But now we have an understanding that, amongst these women, there is some poorly-formed idea of what's okay to say in front of the cameras and what's not -- although clearly, no one gave that memo to Brandi.
Only one woman would stand up for Brandi at the dinner party -- Marisa Zanuck, who had only just met the ex-Mrs. Cibrian -- as Faye (who also doesn't know Brandi beyond what the other housewives have told her) pecked and admonished and railed against the woman until she left the party. I may be on the fence about Brandi, but I'm pretty sure Faye (who seems to be Kyle's mean girl puppet, pulled out of the toy box for special occasions) relishes being the center of attention just as much as she accuses Brandi of wanting to be.
How the battle between Brandi and Adrienne is resolved is anyone's guess, but I'm predicting that Brandi, with her coarse language and tenuous connection to the other wives, won't come out on top.
Do you think the women have a code of propriety? Or should? And do you think Brandi is honest or, as Faye claims, cruel?
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December 18, 2012 at 11:42AM EST Reply to CommentIn the nut shell - Adrienne has money, Brandi does not. So real grifters of Beverly Hills (Kyle, Maurice & Faye) take Ad's side. Kim is just being honest in this situation.
Ad is bully.
Brandi probably went to far, but as Kim said was lead on by Kyle.
For the amount of bullying (no matter if what Brandi they dished out on Brandi said was wrong) I found this episode hard to watch.
Whit this dinner ambush she prepared for Brandi Kyle just got on the top of the list of HW I dislike. Considering competition it's quite achievement.
It was as if Kyle (who called the other girls pit bulls) set her attack dog (Faye) on Brandi. When Faye started demanding Brandi send Adrienne flowers, it was just ridiculous.
December 18, 2012 at 12:56PM ESTREAL VIEWER OF BH Exactly! Like flowers would fix anything. Their patronizing behavior and bashing Brandi really grated on my nerves, no matter who is right/wrong in Brandi-Adrienne conflict.
December 18, 2012 at 1:34PM ESTAnd when ones remembers secrets that Kyle outed about Camille (distributing her playboy pics among HWs) and more serious her sister (drinking problem). I think she has no right to call Brandi out on anything.
I'd forgotten about the Playboy pics! It just goes to show that this "code of conduct" the women supposedly have is totally arbitrary.
December 18, 2012 at 2:39PM ESTRuaca I absolutely agree with you both. Kyle is very malicious in an passive aggressive manner.
December 30, 2012 at 10:11PM ESTMauricio makes his living selling homes to the Rich, he will never side, nor have his wife side with a minion such as Brandi. Brandi can be crass as times, but.. she is honest and I feel many times misunderstood. I dont like Kyle anymore, she is a mean girl who hasn't fallen on hard times to understand the word empathy. I have a new respect for Lisa Vanderpump who in my opinion is a self made enough woman in that town she can be who she is, not obligated to pander to anyone and speaks up for Brandi. I love that she pulls away from the pack. I call it as I see it, and Kim is still not sober imo. (as a side note.. haha)
Prettypinkie Yes I so agree with you all the way, I couldn't say it any better then that. Thank You very much. I just can't with Kyle being so Fake or running with tail between her legs then have her so called friends talk all the time for her BS Kyle needs to try being a friend and learn how to be a friend before she opens that mouth of hers........
February 13, 2013 at 1:02PM ESTCynt Personally I think Brandi calls it they way she sees it and a lot of women can't handle the truth but they can dish it out and I love Lisa I also think Kim isn't sober just my opion and I like well I love the fact that Brandi don't eat shit from the other women and Faye has no business or right to say anything who is she a fake ass line sniffing bully and most of the others kiss ass to beable to have friends and this is my opion but what I think is Lisa and Brandi are the truest women on there and I do state true women not fake ass hell like the others also they except when they are wrong but the others play the blaming game so bitches grow a pair Brandi and Lisa keep on keeping on you 2 ladies rock
February 17, 2013 at 1:24AM ESTChester
December 18, 2012 at 4:50PM EST Reply to CommentI think that the headline to this article confuses libel (written/published defamation) with slander (spoken defamation). They are closely related, but still, this is an incorrect use of a legal term with a very specific definition.
bingo35 Nonetheless Adrienne cannot claim slander or defamation since she can't show damage. Someone did not buy her shoes b/c she used a surrogate? I think not. Besides, Bravo edited Brandi's comment out, so who is to say Brandi is the guilty one? We know for a fact Kyle babbled to her black pet pitbull she calls Faye.
December 22, 2012 at 2:51AM ESTFaye's involvement hurt Adrienne the most as she singlehandedly removed any argument (however weak) Adrienne may have had. I'm sure Adrienne the woman you pretend to know for 25 years is thrilled with your assinine behavior and that of Vyle. The viewers expect no less from u two worthless excuses for 'humanoids' altho we have no proof either of you are human.
TruthBeTold Basically, if what Brandi disclosed is the truth, then its not libelous or defammatory. Just a secret. And if it was a secret, how does Brandi know about it? The entire storyline is just dumb.
December 22, 2012 at 9:11PM ESTBINGO35 @TRUTHBETOLD Exactly. So I'm not sure why Brandi is worried about legal fees. It was not right of Brandi to do that, but she knows it. She has to resolve with Adrienne but can't use a courtroom to do so.
December 23, 2012 at 1:04PM ESTSherrillM
December 19, 2012 at 8:37AM EST Reply to CommentI honestly previously didn't care for Brandi and now get her. If you look back she only went a bit off the wall when attacked. Kyle is sneaky and totally got fame whore Faye to do her bidding. Everyone brings up the Kim "meth situation" yet forgets that they attacked Brandi the whole time and Kyle felt the publics backlash regarding her behavior. They were so mean and cruel and Kim between constant bathroom trips even hid Brandi's crutches from her and told Kyle and they giggled as they bullied Brandi until she exploded and fought back. Don't forget what got her to the point everyone seems to only remember her calling Kim that. Don't let Kyle off that hook. Kim even pointed out what Kyles does lit the match and started the whole Adrienne thing with Brandi. Kyle is the real problem and she seems to just smile her way out of it. Fans don't let her get away with it!
Robert Sherrillm, you hit the nail on the head. I agree with you 100 percent.
December 22, 2012 at 12:20AM ESTbingo35 Not only were the Richard sisters totally mean girl biotches, I agree with Brandi. Kim was doing more than alcohol that night and I would have said the same as Brandi.
December 22, 2012 at 2:57AM ESTThat said, I'm glad Kim is working real hard on her sobreity and hope she stays far far away from toxic Vyle. It is very unhealthy co-dependancy controlling behavior Vyle has and Kim doesn't need that. Her other sister, Kathy, makes for far better family for Kim.
bsbfankaren
December 22, 2012 at 3:34AM EST Reply to CommentThis was most definately one of the more difficult episodes to watch, followed closely by Kyle's outing of Kim as an alcoholic. I keep wondering my Kyle always seemed to come out of these incidences smelling like a rose, when she is always the one dipping into subjects that really aren't her concern. Lisa was right not to allow her to mediate the issue between she and Adrienne, and I truly wish Brandi had not risen to the bait traps Kyle has continually set out for her. As an aside, I have really lost a ton of respect for Mauricio. I realize Brandi has no real money, but he just be able to see that Adrienne defamed Lisa, so why wouldn't it be plausible that what Brandi says was said and done to her by Paul and Adrienne might just be true?
chacha i agree, the ladies are all being how they are. i was totally disgusted with Maricio & Paul's behavior. They would never allow a man to talk to their wives the way they did Brandi, and their wives are gossiper s as well.
January 21, 2013 at 11:45PM ESTAlexa
December 26, 2012 at 5:16PM EST Reply to CommentApparently (according to a tabloid), Brandi has what she says is "proof" that Adrienne used a surrogate to have her children. I don't see why Adrienne would want to hide this if this is true, but why make this out to be such a bad thing? I think it's overblown...
Debi Guess Adrienne shouldnt have got caught in the lie about her "caesarian" birth since she didnt!
January 22, 2013 at 11:40PM ESTJackie78704
December 27, 2012 at 1:09AM EST Reply to CommentLook TEAM BRANDI here I am sorry isnt the show called the real housewives Of Beverly housewives ?? Hello so what you used a surrogate ?? Big dam deal alot of people are . I am saying everything about them secrets Kims alcohol problem , Taylors abuse . The women are insane Faye is a fossil, Yolonda Oh so tired already ... Brandi and Lisa a hit Kyle much fun too. Taylor you need to help yourself and daughter so I get .... applause to Camille for letting all the real out there !! She got it !! So Brandi keep these ladies in check about being a real housewife !
shannon
December 31, 2012 at 9:09PM EST Reply to CommentShe should have never said anything. If you're good friends with someone and then that friendship ends, you take their secrets that could hurt people to your grave. I love how Lisa has taken her under her wing this season. I just hope Brandi wises up. I really like her. I used to hate Lisa, but really enjoying her this season. Those two are my fav's! Can't stand Kyle!!! She's a big fat jerk and loves to start Sh*t.
shannon
December 31, 2012 at 9:14PM EST Reply to CommentFact is, if you're friends with someone and you know their deep dark secrets and then are no longer friends, you don't say anything!!! That shows bad character and I'm really disappointed that Brandi did that. I really like her. I'm loving her and Lisa being buddy/buddy this season!!! Brandi def needs a mother figure in her life right now. Used to dislike Lisa last season but totally love her this time around. Still hate Kyle bc she's such a sh*t starter and Faye.. UGH... why does that nasty b*tch have to be on the show??? Ratings??? She's a gross human being. Kim, I was going to say keep up the good work but appears Kyle has rubbed off on you this season. So disappointed that you started crap at Mauricio's party. BTW, he is the hottest of the husbands on all the HW shows :) hehe
Braxton Why did you hate Lisa? And Adrianne is a LIAR. If have a secret keep it that way. She's the one who made up this elaborate story about having a C section with her boys. That's so disturbing and rediculous to me. If I don't want people to find out about something I'm not going make a huge lie to cover it. And thus bring attention to it. To me that shows bad character.
January 17, 2013 at 4:43PM ESTTeri Carter
January 16, 2013 at 9:29AM EST Reply to CommentBrandi has a potty mouth and likes to keep stuff stirred up. The more she stirs up the more likely they are to keep her on the show. Frankly I'm tired of her telling everyone to go F themselves. She has no respect for anyone, much less herself. I do think Kyle is passive aggressive, but I think Mauricio had every right to defend himself is party that he was holding and he actions we atrocious. She has zero class. She being Brandi. I'm sorry that her family is divided, I know how that feels, but her response to it, isnt showing a mature reaction, rather a volatile, unstable woman. She needs anger managment.
Teri Carter typos, I think Mauricio has every right to defend himself and his party that he was holding and (her) actions were atrocious.
January 16, 2013 at 9:32AM ESTLysh Regardless, I really love the drama of the show. Sometimes I do feel it can be staged. Though on a whole... I believe everyone on this show should be ashamed of themselves at some point. BUT that's life! Live, learn move on and later laugh (don't forget the appologise's)
January 19, 2013 at 5:13AM ESTAlysha xxx
Jaimie Are you serious about Brandi, she calls it like it, more power to her. She is used by people like Kyle to stir up the pot. She doesnt do these things intentionally. Have you not been watching the show. When Brandi is cornered she comes out fighting, good for her. And regarding Mauricio, he was attacking like a pitbull....now I see why him and Klye are together. He really should have thought about what he was saying before he opened his mouth. He really looked like a douche bag,attacking a female like that, he was no better than Paul. Show some class, like Lisa does.
January 23, 2013 at 3:00PM ESTSage
January 24, 2013 at 6:00AM EST Reply to CommentIt's not libel if it is true. Brandi let the cat out of the bag that Adrienne's twins were carried by a surrogate. Brandi is a thoughtless big mouth, but she was telling the truth.
ijGirl
January 30, 2013 at 7:06PM EST Reply to CommentOk am I the only person that doesn't have a POOR friend with a BIG mouth that all the gals refer to as "the single one that can barely make ends meet"....who incidental drives a $90,000+ SUV and her house ain't too shabby either. Sorry all Brandi glam fans, I just can't relate. Now compared to vanderstumps pocketbook, I'm sure BG is living in the slums of BH...but let's be real...shes far from POOR. Just calling it the way I see it.
RHOVA
February 3, 2013 at 10:33PM EST Reply to CommentCamille is way off base!! What she did was FARRR worse then what Brandi did, I don't care if Taylor was telling them she was being abused, everyone knows if your friends husband is beating the crap outta her the last thing you do is make it public just so he can try to kill her off this time!! What is she thinking?? What Brandi told, if its true she told Adrienne used a surrogate, is far less dramatic or dangerous outing than saying someones husband is beating them on national tv!! If Taylor would have died as a direct result of Camille and her big mouth that would make her much worse of the blabber mouth than Brandi, would it not?? I think its funny that these rich people are so well to do that they don't really have "issues" they try to make up issues and problems in their perfect little lives! I am not going to say all rich people are that way, bc a lot of them do have legit problems and issues. Adrienne's issue/problem is stupid if you ask me!! Now, Brandi and Paul are buddies and Adrienne is the outcast..seems even Paul is ready to have his own "tell all" moment!! At and rate, Brandi is my FAV housewife and I think she is beautiful and smart and therefore a threat to all the other ladies so no wonder they were automatically against her from the start..the only one who wasn't was Lisa and that is bc she, too, is beautiful and smart and she dont have a jealous bone in her body!!
Lisa
February 4, 2013 at 8:10PM EST Reply to CommentIt is the fact that Adrienne used a surrogate. Big Damn Deal.
jenny
February 10, 2013 at 9:14AM EST Reply to Commentbrandi is a classless, scorned woman with a truckers mouth. She needs to keep her mouth shut and learn how to behave like a lady.
Prettypinkie Ya ok Jen, How would you FeeL if your husband or boyfreind cheated on you when your pregnant for the second time and your man is all up on some girl, Really How would you FeeL ?? Brandi maybe a scorned woman but " She has every right too be so if she wants to say how she feels at that time when she is put in a corner then all well to her, What Brandi said about anyone is the truth.
February 13, 2013 at 1:17PM ESTRHwivesfan
February 12, 2013 at 6:46PM EST Reply to CommentHow much of a secret could Adrienne have had? Surely someone must have noticed that she was not pregnant before the twins were born. I don't care how small you are, you still show.
marcie
February 12, 2013 at 10:03PM EST Reply to CommentI love Brandi because you know shes not lying and is halerious whenever she opens her mouth! I'm looking forward to her book. Unfiltered people are the best! You know she makes the other ladies nervous & I love to watch the panic in their eyes when she starts talking.
glo I don't kno why Adrienne is making a big deal out of her surrogate.....she needs to just have her ex husband fix all that bad plastic surgery on her face now thats no secret just look at her ugly face.
February 13, 2013 at 4:15AM ESTLuv Brandi and her truckers mouth, hate bitches that act
mike
February 15, 2013 at 5:09PM EST Reply to CommentI am so on the side of Brandi....the underdog. Nobody gives a damn about Faye leznick, she is the only one following her diatribe. Shame on Kyle for bringing the pitbull, Leznick. She has always been a clingon since the days of oj simpson and that ugly murder fiasco. You keep going Brandi and don't let the bitches get to you.