'Snow White and the Huntsman' writer Evan Daugherty on reviews, casting Kristen Stewart and getting 'fired'
A first-time screenwriter makes a big-time debut
Kristen Stewart in 'Snow White and the Huntsman'
"Snow White and the Huntsman" isn't just a big-budget major summer release starring "Twilight's" Kristen Stewart, "Thor's" Chris Hemsworth and Oscar-winner Charlize Theron. It's also the first produced screenplay for Evan Daugherty. Not a bad way to make your debut.
Daugherty originally wrote the script back in 2003, when he was still a hungry young film student and long before Hollywood was greenlighting every fairy tale themed project they could find. In fact, it wasn't until "Alice in Wonderland" producer Joe Roth sparked to Daugherty's script as a logical like-minded follow-up to that fairy tale blockbuster that the wheels started moving. Universal liked it too, and made a deal that led to a hefty multimillion dollar payday for Daugherty.
That was only the beginning of a wild ride for Daugherty that involved a high profile competition with a similar project ("Mirror, Mirror"), the casting of red hot rising star Stewart, and the decision to boot Daugherty off his own project and bring in veteran writers including John Lee Hancock ("The Blind Side") and Hossein Amini ("Drive").
I spoke with Daugherty about the highs and lows of bringing "Snow White and the Huntsman" to the screen, how he's handling the reviews now that it's finished, and whether or not audiences should expect a sequel.
Revisionist fairy tales are hot in Hollywood right now, but this script has been with you for a long time. Is it a point of pride to say you had this idea before it was a trend?
I try to let people know that hopefully in a subtle and modest way. There was a lot of hullabaloo around the sale of the script and some of the fallout from that was like "Oh, this guy saw that 'Alice in Wonderland' was big at the box office and wrote this take on Snow White." Certainly that was a big reason why the script did eventually sell, but I did write it when I was a junior at NYU film school and it was just on my hard drive for a lot of years. I do feel a small bit of pride that I was hopefully a little bit ahead of the curve.
When "Alice" became a big hit did you immediately see that as the moment to sell, or were there similar times when it felt like studios would be interested and still nothing happened?
Hopefully the script was good and intriguing from the beginning. Right out of NYU I was hip-pocketed -- which means I was taken on by a fairly well known manager on the merits of this script -- so I think people saw some potential in it. At the same time no one really knew what to do with it. Just the basic idea of doing this fairy tale with a more action-adventure twist had not really been done before. There had been a Snow White horror version and other versions of fairy tales, but no one got it.
I wrote it so long ago that there was one failed fairy tale trend that happened when Terry Gilliam's "Brothers Grimm" came out. For the few years after that, no one wanted to tackle "Snow White" because ["Grimm"] unfortunately did not fare well at the box office. Seeing "Alice in Wonderland" come out definitely reminded me of this script that I thought there was no hope for.
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I was a little terrified, to be honest. I wrote my script nine years ago, and we started developing the script with Joe Roth and [director] Rupert Sanders months before "Mirror, Mirror" was announced. But "Mirror, Mirror" was announced first. From that point, we didn't want to be the second to market, or look like the people capitalizing on the other Snow White movie. It was very stressful and frustrating. As time went on we saw what that movie was turning into -- such a different movie, like live action Disney. As the release date drew closer we became less and less worried.
Did the so-so performance of "Mirror, Mirror" at the box office worry you at all? Did you think "maybe people aren't interested in Snow White"?
You're always trying to read the tea leaves. There's the competitive side of you saying "I want to win this box office battle!" But then you're like "Maybe you want it to do well, because you're doing a Snow White movie..." Ultimately, you just want it to do its own thing. ["Mirror, Mirror"] kind of came and went fairly quickly, I did not see it. I really like Tarsem, so I may see it, but I'm too in my own head to see it right now. I may have to wait six months to see another Snow White movie.
When you're writing you don't even know if the movie will get made, let alone who might get cast. What did you think when you found out Kristen Stewart would be the star?
I was excited and kind of intrigued. I was around for most of that process and the original plan was to follow the "Alice in Wonderland" route and cast an unknown. Casting directors scoured the entire world during the fall and winter of 2010. They got it down to a shortlist and filmed screen tests, everyone was great. But at the same time we were reworking the script, making the Snow White character even tougher and giving her more grit. As it went along it became clear this was a movie star meaty role.
Thankfully, some of the reviews I'm reading -- I shouldn't even be reading reviews -- but some of them are really citing Kristen Stewart's performance. Some are still giving her unfortunately too hard of a time. I think she's really, really good in the movie. She's really powerful and strong. It's even more of a star-making role for her. She gets to get out there and do things: ride horses, strap on armor, wield a sword, lead men into battle. Seeing the movie for the first time a couple weeks ago, there were a lot of things I liked a lot but I was the most surprised and impressed by Kristen Stewart.
You mentioned reviews, and I'd imagine reading reviews for your first movie has to be a whole new thing to learn to deal with. Especially when the movie is a big summer event, critics often knock the scripts. As a writer, do you feel like that's fair?
Reviewers are certainly entitled to their own opinions. I've become buddies with enough writers and directors, and to be perfectly honest the ones that have lasted a long time don't pay a lot of attention to the reviews. I will say I keep refreshing Rotten Tomatoes and trying to get [the score] up over 60, to be fresh. It's creeped below 60 but I think there's some time to get it back above.
As for the way the writer fares in reviews, I do think it sometimes can be a little unfair. Very often things that people may think come from the writer, very often don't. There's a lot of cooks in the kitchen when it comes to making a movie. When you hear a line of dialogue that sounds kind of tinny, it's pretty easy to cite the screenwriter. But there's a lot of stuff that goes into making a movie. I understand some of the criticism, but I think ultimately I need to divorce myself from reading reviews. As a writer you sit around a computer all day and it's too easy to open another tab and keep Rotten Tomatoes there.
Speaking of all the cooks in the kitchen, at a certain point you were dropped off the movie...
Yes, fired.
What were your feelings about that? And how much of the finished movie comes from you and how much from the other credited writers?
I say fired, but that's an indelicate way of putting it. I sold the script which was totally my own, and that script is floating around the Internet. It's fairly different from the movie. But I stayed on for six months and worked with Rupert, which took the script to being fairly close to the finished product. The thing is, in the world of Hollywood, had I been the only credited writer this would have been a $150 million movie written by a first-time writer and directed by a first-time director. So a small force of A-listers came in and batted cleanup on the script, and helped continue Rupert's vision for the movie.
In terms of the contributions, according to the Writers Guild I contributed about 50-60% of the screenplay and the other two writers contributed 20-25% each. There's a lot of things that are different. The finished product is a darker, grittier version. I set out to do an action-adventure version but there was a bit more humor and a bit of a lighter vibe. My favorite movie of all time is "The Princess Bride," so there was a bit of that vibe to it. That has kind of evolved out of the movie, which I miss a little bit, but at the same time I recognize there's something very cool and modern about this. Sort of like "The Dark Knight" take on Snow White.
One of the elements I thought was interesting was the attempt to flesh out the evil Queen's backstory. Was that always a part of the script or did the role change when Charlize Theron was cast?
I'll take credit for that. That was one of the big aspects of my original script even way back in the day. One of my favorite scenes in the movie -- hopefully not because I wrote it, but because it's resonant -- is when Charlize kills the king and delivers a soliloquy that sums up her opinion on how beauty and youth equate to power for a woman like her.
Joe Roth has said that he hopes this film kicks off a trilogy. Are there still plans for that and would you be involved in future versions?
I believe there are tentative plans. I think some of it depends on how well it does. The last I heard I wouldn't [be involved]. They were talking about a very esteemed screenwriter, David Koepp, for that. There are talks also, beyond a sequel, about a Huntsman solo spin-off, which is something I'd be intrigued by and had conversations about because that's my favorite character in the movie. We'll see how it fares. I hope people see it and enjoy it and want that.
"Snow White and the Huntsman" opens in theaters June 1
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Login or create a HitFix account Login SignupJedyKnight
May 31, 2012 at 6:09PM EST Reply to CommentTell you the truth, i wasnt very interested in watching this movie on the theather (was probably going to wati for it to come out on dvd or on demand), but this interview has made me think about giving it a try.
Pure Sophistry
June 1, 2012 at 6:17AM EST Reply to CommentWe over at Pure Sophistry saw the film and gave it a review, take a read, comment and vote in the poll if you've seen it! http://www.puresophistry.com/2012/06/01/snow-white-and-the-huntsman-review/
Austin Film Festival
June 1, 2012 at 12:00PM EST Reply to CommentEvan Daugherty will be a panelist at the Austin Film Festival this October! Find out more at www.austinfilmfestival.com
CeCe
June 3, 2012 at 1:12PM EST Reply to CommentThe movie could have build up a bit more on the scary factor, possible romance between Snow White and the Huntsman, the Hunstman teaching Snow White to fight and become a warrior, and possibility that the mirror is such a powerful object that it may even tempt Snow White into vanity and beauty obsession. As a young girl Snow White took a hurt bird. Why not develop a relationship between them. When the palace is attacked and Snow White imprissoned her bird escapes. Then visits her in her prison tower with Snow White feeding it thru the tiny cell window. Snow White would have talked to bird since we didn't get a lot of speaking from Snow White in the beginning.One day Snow White sticks her hand to feed her beloved bird but instead gets one of Ravenna's huge black birds who picks her hand making it bloody. That would have send me out of my theater seat in a volt. It seems a bit Hithcock like (The Birds) but so what since birds are already party of the movie. Sad that her bird is dead and terrified, Snow White never sticks her hand out of the window again. One day she gathers the courage and finds the loose nail on the wall which she used to attack Ravenna's brother and free herself. So, Snow White is caged like birds usually are but ironically and indirectly a bird gives her freedom. During Snow White venture into the Black Forest there should have been a massive thunder and light storm ripping the sky to add to the terror while she spend the night alone in the forest. The troll should have sent Snow White flying high landing her into gigantic mushrooms that emitted a powder that burn exposed skin into horrible welts. The Huntsman would hear her screams and rescues her while the troll comes charging after them. The Hunstman is no match for the troll but Snow White stops it like she did. Snow White and Huntsman begin bonding having fought the troll together. Snow White and the Hunstman should have stayed at least a day in the village of the women wherein the Hunstman teaches Snow White to fight.Promos said that this happenned but we get only a bit. We will get to see a frustated Hunstman because Snow White is not getting the fighting thing. After a few failed attempts, Snow White gets is right. Exhilated and happy, Hunstman embraces her to congratulate her. They lock the embrace and look at each other tenderly and confused. Hunstman breaks the embrace realizing that he may be developing feelings for her. He walks away stomping the ground and hitting with his ax and shaing his head left and right confused. Snow White is left there also perplexed, confused but somewhat happy for what just happened. The romantic and sexual tension between them begins to build. At the end when Ravenna is dead we see Snow White seeing her own reflection in the mirror. Could it be that at some point the power of the mirror is so strong that it would tempt even the pure Snow White giving her vanity and obsession with beauty as she sees her own beauty. Sanders sort of insinuated that in the movie since the camera lingered a bit as Snow White sees herself in the mirror. I enjoyed the movie very much. I thought it was well written, cast, acted, paced, and photographed. I thought that a few things could have been made a bit stronger. Since these days everyone seems to be a critic or a writer I took the liberty of putting my one cent of things I though could have worked with the hope that I do not spoil it nor offend anyone.