Kelly Clarkson vs. Clive Davis: Where does it rate among label spats with artists?
He said/she said takes a new turn today
Clive Davis and Kelly Clarkson
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Clive Davis got off lucky. His public spat with Kelly Clarkson has so far only involved words.
Once, an artist was so pissed off at her A&R executive at a record company that she jumped up on his desk, squatted, and took a dump. This is a true story. She thought it was the ultimate act of rebellion, but all it did was get her dumped from the label.
To catch you up to speed, yesterday Davis, a legendary label executive, released his second book, “ The Soundtrack of My Life.” In it, he told his version of what happened with Kelly Clarkson’s third album, “My December.” She was in a dark place when she wrote many of the songs for the album and Davis was concerned that it wouldn’t have the commercial appeal of the “American Idol” winner’s first glossy two albums.
Davis describes the ongoing battle over the album one way and Clarkson remembers it very, very differently, so she took to Whosay yesterday to post her version of events. She calls Davis's account "a violation."
“As anyone who has read ‘The Soundtrack of My Life’ knows, I think Kelly Clarkson is a tremendous vocal talent and performer. In the book, I provide an in-depth look at our years together during which we shared major multi-platinum success, as well as a few creative differences. I am truly very sorry that she has decided to take issue with what I know to be an accurate depiction of our time together. Before the book was published, I had every fact checked with five independent individuals who were present on a daily basis throughout it all. The chapter as it is written was thoroughly verified by each and every one of them. I stand by the chapter as written in my book. At the same time I wish, and will always wish, Kelly's talent and her career to soar to ever new heights.”
So he’s not backing down and she won’t either. Let’s just say we won’t be seeing Clarkson perform at any of Davis’s pre-Grammy parties any time soon.
In the annals of recorded music, this he said/she said doesn’t even rate a 2 on the spat-o-meter. Artists have taken swings at record executives: Diddy, then going as Puffy, struck label exec/artist manager Steve Stoute with a champagne bottle because he was mad over a scene kept in a Nas video (they settled out of court).
Maybe Clarkson will get another song out of it: the road is strewn with songs by artists railing against their record label, including Nick Lowe’s “I Love My Label,” Cracker’s “It Ain’t Gonna Suck Itself,” Against’s Me’s “Unprotected Sex with Multiple Partners” and, of course, Pink’s “Don’t Let Me Get Me.”
So does the public really want to see how the sausage is made? The vast majority of fans don’t care that artists and label execs go toe-to-toe every day...they’re just quiet about it. It’s really part of the creative process and, while it’s nice to believe that an artist should always get to make the album he or she wants to, when a label is investing millions of dollars in that artist (most of which it will never recoup), it does get to have a say.
In this court of public opinion, Clarkson will likely win this one and I applaud her for speaking up since she clearly felt wronged (she wasn’t quiet when the incident happened the first time, so why should she be now). For Davis, it’s all part of publicity machine and even he knows this is great for his book.
Who do you think is right?
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February 20, 2013 at 6:05PM EST Reply to CommentDamn, Melinda; you're not going to tell us who went all "Flavor of Love" on the label? Booo...
As far as other artist-label spats, I'll put my vote for the Monkees v. Don Kirshner (Mike Nesmith - "That could have been your face!"). The fact that they won (even though it likely hurt them chart-wise) makes theirs a true rock and roll success story, despite their pre-fab origins.
Liz
February 20, 2013 at 6:33PM EST Reply to Comment//when a label is investing millions of dollars in that artist (most of which it will never recoup)//
Given how common it is for artists to sell millions of records while barely seeing a cent of the profits, I'm having trouble finding it in my heart to pity record labels all that much.
melinda Liz, it may seem that way, but it's not. VERY few artists sell millions of album these days.. maybe 10 a year. Even in the good days, 10% of the artists on a label paid for the other 90%. Most folks never hear about the other 90% so they don't realize they even existed..
February 21, 2013 at 2:59AM ESTandrei Melinda - True, but some of us measure artistic success by means other than money.
February 21, 2013 at 10:13AM ESTWhich do you think is the bigger "success" - "Patricia" by Perez Prado (the #5 song of 1958) or "Johnny B. Goode" (#78)?
JJ1
February 20, 2013 at 6:58PM EST Reply to CommentI believe Kelly.
derek sibert
February 20, 2013 at 7:04PM EST Reply to CommentFuck Clive Davis. He's a talent vulture and I don't even like Kelly. The label invests millions it doesn't recoup...really? They've made plenty on the backs of plenty of artists. Who's dick is HITFIX on? Sounds like you're puppets for the machine.
JMc
February 20, 2013 at 7:04PM EST Reply to CommentMelinda, I think you're thinking of Inger Lorre of the Nymphs, but she actually peed on the record company man's desk. Not to let facts get in the way of a good story, but the laweekly piece is here:
http://www.laweekly.com/1999-04-01/music/inger-lorre-patron-saint-of-fucked-over-musicians/full/
JMc
February 20, 2013 at 7:17PM EST Reply to CommentStrange to see the comments keep getting deleted.
The urban legend that Melissa is exaggerating here refers to Inger Lorre of the Nymphs, who peed (not pooped) on Tom Zutaut's desk when he was at Geffen. End of story, not as interesting as Melissa's unsourced and inaccurate recounting of the tale, but feel free to read all about in the LA Weekly searchable archives.
melinda It's Melinda-- and thank you! I searched for it and couldn't find it. I think you're absolutely right. Quite frankly, I don't know which one would be worse...
February 21, 2013 at 3:00AM ESTJMc
February 20, 2013 at 7:17PM EST Reply to CommentStrange to see the comments keep getting deleted.
The urban legend that Melissa is exaggerating here refers to Inger Lorre of the Nymphs, who peed (not pooped) on Tom Zutaut's desk when he was at Geffen. End of story, not as interesting as Melissa's unsourced and inaccurate recounting of the tale, but feel free to read all about in the LA Weekly searchable archives.
MagicHipple Dude, maybe you're just impatient.
February 21, 2013 at 12:23AM ESTMorris Workman
February 20, 2013 at 7:26PM EST Reply to CommentThere are thousands of extremely talented people who never make it to the top. In this era of carefully crafted images and delicately spun hyperbole, talent alone simply isn't enough. I'm not sure it ever was. Clive Davis has helped dozens of talented and semi-talented artists achieve stardom. He's old, but he still knows his business. Clarkson, like so many of today's pop-tarts, thinks she knows it all. And how many of her Clive-less records have reached the top 10? Not nearly as many as while under his tutelage. Davis is a genius, Kelly is a talented Jenny-Come-Lately. The truth is they would have way more success together than she will have on her own.
MagicHipple
February 21, 2013 at 12:21AM EST Reply to CommentI believe Clive...she's like the monkees. She was created, guided and written for. When it became a success, she decided she was Carole Bayer Sager.
andrei You say that like its a bad thing - I'd rather hear an artistic reach that may not be commercial (or successful) than another in a long line of pre-formed, pre-packaged and pre-digested pablum that comes out of corporate hit-making factories.
February 21, 2013 at 10:06AM EST