Cannes Film Festival 2013

Watch our full length Keanu Reeves interview and read our review of 'Side-By-Side'

We discuss the future of the film industry with the star of the smart and satisfying doc


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"Side By Side" is interesting because it is a snapshot of a moment, an attempt to capture an argument mid-stream, one that will be resolved at some point soon but which is, right now, one of the primary conversations happening about the state of our industry.

Virtually all of the student filmmaking work I did was on video.  We were lucky enough at my high school to have a non-linear editing suite, but these were the days of VHS to VHS, and it was still crude compared to the editing firepower available to anyone with a laptop these days.  At that point, video was not in competition with film for the business of movie making.  It just wasn't an option.  The best-looking film shot on video was still shot on video.  It was something even the least sophisticated viewer could see right away.

These days, digital projection and digital filmmaking are so technically sophisticated that the entire conversation has had to change.  The question is no longer "does video look as good as film?" because we've realized that isn't the point.  Video still has a number of signatures that make it different from film, but instead of being limitations now, they are just differences, and the best artists working in movies today are hotly divided over which tools to use, what to use them for, and what it means for the art as a whole.

That's where "Side By Side" fits.  In the film, pro-digital advocate David Fincher is given just as much time and weight as pro-film advocate Christopher Nolan, and they both make their cases well.  They are smart men who believe that the tools they're using are essential to the way they tell stories.  Christopher Nolan and Wally Pfister love film.  They love large-format film.  They love the clarity of the image and the rich, dense photochemical look of reality and light captured on film.  They make their case as well as anyone could, but nothing they say can effectively argue against the excitement we hear from Fincher or from the Wachowskis or from Roger Deakins, just to name a few of the people we see in this film, all of them just as invested in their position.  Michael Chapman is a legendary cinematographer.  He shot "Taxi Driver" and "Raging Bull," for god's sake.  Even more impressively, he was the one who convinced Spielberg that he could shoot handheld footage onboard the Orca in "Jaws," and he was the operator who actually did it.  He seems willing to move forward, excited about the new control he has over the image, clear-eyed and unsentimental about film in general.

The film is unrepentantly technical, and I appreciated seeing a film that digs deep into the conversation instead of just playing on emotion or surface explanations.  Christopher Kenneally does excellent work here, and Keanu Reeves is a very engaging presence, a good interviewer who is able to get wonderful, relaxed reactions out of the people he's with.  They talk to Anne V. Coates, the legendary editor who cut "Lawrence Of Arabia," and she talks about how one of the single most famous cuts of all time was a result of her dislike for the way dissolves and fades looked in the age the film was made.  If she was working with an Avid or Final Cut today, she admits she might have handled that transition differently, a thought which blows my mind.  Greta Gerwig talks about how freaked out she was the first time she heard film running through a camera while making "Arthur."  Up till that point, everything she'd been in had been shot with video cameras of some kind, and to her, that sound was like hearing dollar bills rolling by.

We had a nice chunk of time with Reeves to chat, and the result is a loose and interesting conversation about the film and the issues it raises.  When you have a little more time with someone, you can start to really have a conversation with some weight, and I'm very pleased with the way this came out.

"Side By Side" is in select theaters now, and will be available on VOD this weekend.

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Drew McWeeny
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A respected critic and commentator for fifteen years, Drew McWeeny helped create the online film community as "Moriarty" at Ain't It Cool News, and now proudly leads two budding Film Nerds in their ongoing movie education.
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    Anne

    This is a great interview. I had to listen to it twice to get some of the finer points, but really enjoyed this "insider" technical discussion of the movie biz.

    August 22, 2012 at 10:24PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Anne Also, I had to find and watch this video on Youtube, because somehow Hitfix's videos never work for me on Firefox.

      August 22, 2012 at 10:27PM EST
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    nick_r

    I can't wait to see this movie. Film vs. digital may be a fairly wonky discussion to the average person, but if you live in LA and work in the industry, you know that everyone here has an opinion on it, and many of those opinions are strong. I find it really interesting that Rian Johnson is heavily pro-film, despite the fact that he got started making a movie on a shoestring budget and still operates sort of outside the studio system.

    Personally, I'm pro-digital and I really don't see that the other side has much of a case. Obviously, there's the populist angle, where digital allows infinitely more people a chance to try their hand at filmmaking. With one $3,000 camera and a laptop (and a decent cinematographer) anyone can make a movie that is indistinguishable in visual quality from most of what's on the big screen right now. But even aside from that, the look of digital already stuns me and it can only get better from here. I love that the Red Scarlet camera was used to shoot The Avengers, the BBC Sherlock series, and Lena Dunham's Girls on HBO. All three have remarkably different visual styles, and yet they're all possible with the same digital camera.

    August 22, 2012 at 10:57PM EST Reply to Comment
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    TJack

    classic Drew talking more than his interview subject and making it all about him and his opinions rather than the interview subject...ugh

    August 22, 2012 at 11:52PM EST Reply to Comment
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      CashBailey I think a good interview is a dialogue, not just some passive 'journalist' letting the subject ramble on.

      And does Keanu Reeves ever age?

      August 23, 2012 at 10:15PM EST
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      JR I think dialogue is good in interviews, but the interviewer kept interupting his subject. It was like he wanted to "prove" how much of an insider he thinks he is (which usually comes off as desperate and inauthentic). And to conclude his interview with a snark insult, whether he was quoting someone or not, did not add anything positive to the conversation.

      Apart from that, the film is worth the effort to find on VOD or in limited release.

      August 25, 2012 at 1:11AM EST
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    Olaf78

    Lovely interview Drew, wish that it were longer. D'you know whether the film will get an Australian release.

    n.b It is official - Reeves is a vampire.

    August 23, 2012 at 11:11PM EST Reply to Comment
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    CSDiva

    This was an amazing interview. This film is a must-see for all film lovers...Bravo, Keanu!

    August 25, 2012 at 12:58AM EST Reply to Comment

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