Cannes Film Festival 2013

Review: Is 'very good' good enough for 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey'?

Peter Jackson's return to Middle-Earth frustrates at times, transports at others

  • Critic's Rating B
  • Readers' Rating B-
<p>Bilbo Baggins prepares to sneak away in the dead of night in a scene from 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey'</p>

Bilbo Baggins prepares to sneak away in the dead of night in a scene from 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey'

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Keeping track of the various dwarfs is impossible in the film, and that's a real issue.  It's just too many character to dump on the audience all at once.  The rhyming names are cute as an idea, but in execution, it's overload, and I gave up trying to keep track of Fili and Kili and Bombur and Biffur and Bumpo and Dinko and Plinko and Trinko and the whole lot of them.  I like George Harrison dwarf and they get some comic value out of Harry Knowles dwarf and Aragorn dwarf is, of course, awesome.  There's Billy Barty dwarf, and he's got most of the exposition to deliver, and he does it well.  And then there are about six or seven other dwarfs that basically register as "and the rest," and that's just sort of the way it's going to be.  It's a massive number of characters to juggle.  The script by Fran Walsh & Philippa Boyens & Guillermo Del Toro & Peter Jackson has twin duties to service.  First, it must establish the overall shape of this story.  In "Lord Of The Rings," the entire world lies in the balance of what happens, and it is clear.  Frodo must take the ring to Mount Doom, and he must destroy it.  And then he does.  The end.  Here, the story is "They must go to the mountain to reclaim it for the dwarfs." And in order to tell that very simple story, Peter Jackson and his co-writers have decided to tell every single story there is to tell along the way, expanding in a way that most adaptations normally have to contract.

Let's put it this way… if Tom Bombadil came from "The Hobbit" and not "Lord Of The Rings," fans would be listening to Tom sing every word of ever song and watching him prance about in vivid 48FPS 3D this Christmas.

And we'll get to the technical stuff.  But later.  I want to talk about the film first.  Ultimately, most people are going to see this in either regular 3D screenings or in 2D screenings or at home or on a plane or in a hotel in bits and pieces or whatever.  Either it works as a movie, or it doesn't work as a movie.  And in addition to the heavy lifting that it has to do for the trilogy as a whole, it has to work as a movie.  They have to build to some sort of satisfying conclusion.  That was true of "Fellowship," of "The Two Towers," of "Return Of The King."  It is the real trick of making giant serialized film stories.  They must always presume that some of their viewers are approaching it cold.  For someone, "The Hobbit" will be their introduction to Middle Earth.  And for them, the filmmakers have to treat this as a self-contained thing.  They don't, really, and there is a whole lot of this one that feels like it exists solely to service those fans who have been waiting for this return to Middle-Earth.  And why not?  There were a lot of fans and they spent a lot of money and a lot of time on these films, and if Jackson wants to spend at least a half-hour of his total runtime on things that ultimately feel like him saying "Thanks for coming! Remember THIS?!?" then so be it.  Gandalf bumping his head on the lamp in Bilbo's Hobbit hole is Han Solo saying "I've got a bad feeling about this."  It's the reassuring "Look! This is the same!" that fans need, evidently.  It doesn't overwhelm the movie by any means, but it's hard to ignore.  As far as whether or not it works as a stand-alone, there is definitely a character beat between Thorin Oakenshield (Richard Armitage) and Bilbo that wraps this one up, but it's such a familiar pat beat that it's sort of shocking to see them trot it out.  As a friend said to me after the film, "Gee, I sure am glad Bilbo eventually proved his worth to the one person who was unsure about having him along on the adventure.  I was really worried."  And to some degree, "The Hobbit" is the source of many of the tropes of fantasy and hero myth storytelling in modern film, but that doesn't mean it's any less of a cliche when they play the beat at the end.

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Perhaps the single best sequence in Tolkien's entire career as a writer is the "Riddles In The Dark" sequence which introduced Gollum and the Ring, and it is also perhaps the single best sequence in this film.  If you want to see just how far CGI and performance capture technology has come in the last decade, look at Gollum here and then go back to look at him in "The Two Towers."  While he is undeniably the same character, the level of technical sophistication in bringing him to life is wildly different.  There is such subtle, genuine work done on his face that I would swear he is an actual thing, photographed and not created.  In this one sequence, there is the feeling of real magic, and you can't discount just how hard it is to summon that sort of thing.  Jackson and company are at their best when they are hitting the big beats of this story.  I also quite liked Radagast The Brown, his sled pulled by giant bunny rabbits, and his story of an encounter with a dark force known as The Necromancer.  It's an exciting addition to the story, seeing it played out this way, and it suggests some great material ahead in the next two films.  On the other hand, some of the action here has been cranked up to such preposterous physic-defying levels that they actually become less exciting because of all the frenzy.  There's a major sequence inside a goblin cave, featuring the truly repulsive Goblin King (voiced by Barry Humphries), who may be the most overt use of a scrotum in a character design since "Family Guy," and it is so big, so crazy, so non-stop that I had trouble accepting that any of the characters would actually make it through it intact.  It feels like they're trying to top the Mines Of Moria, knowing that they're dealing with an audience that has had 11 years to grow accustomed to that scene, and it borders on the ridiculous by the time Gandalf and the dwarfs have surfed their fifteenth collapsing structure to safety, only to launch into another extended chase and fight.  There comes a point where I want to see the cumulative impact on these people.  "Lord Of The Rings" always made the victories seem hard-won, while "The Hobbit" unfortunately makes them feel more like save points.

I feel like I must offer a special warning to parents.  I spent the past year reading "The Hobbit" aloud with my sons, who are now seven and four years old, and much has been made of this film's lighter tone, how it's more family friendly.  Don't believe it.  While older fans will be fine and teenage fans will probably enjoy the largely-bloodless carnage in the film, there's not a chance my two kids are seeing it theatrically.  It is violent throughout, and the goblins and the wargs and the trolls and the constant threat of being eaten or killed is simply too much for kids.  This movie pushes up against the limits of the PG-13 rating at least as much as "Lord Of The Rings" did, and in some cases, more.  There's a featured Orc, a primary adversary for Thorin, who is a nightmare, pure and simple, and while I think it's a striking design, he's one of the main reasons my kids won't see this film for at least a few more years.  Your kids may be different, but if you have any question or hesitation, I would urge you to see it first.  You'll be glad you did.

Now… about that 48FPS.  It's being advertised as HFR on the posters, so if you're curious about it, then that's what you need to hunt down.  When they showed ten minutes or so of the film at CinemaCon in Vegas, there were many reactions to that, but I wanted to wait and see an entire film in the format, and now that I have, I still don't know what I think.  I'm half-convinced that there was a projection problem when I saw the film, because I have trouble believing that what I saw reflected the desires of Peter Jackson and his team.  Throughout the entire film, there was a strange Benny Hill quality to sequences, with things that appeared to be sped up.  It happened in both dialogue and action sequences, and the overall effect was like watching the most beautifully mastered Blu-ray ever played at 1.5x speed.  It doesn't make any sense to me that this process, which is supposedly all about clarity and resolution, would create that hyper-speedy quality unless they were doing something wrong in the projection of it.  Peter Jackson would see this immediately.  The voices are off-pitch, and the pacing of scenes goes to hell when it's played this way.  This cannot be the point of 48FPS, and so, despite having seen the film projected in the format, I'm still not sure I've seen a proper demonstration of it.

In terms of the 3D and the clarity, it was impressive, and there is a strange dreamy quality to the more-video-than-video nature of the format.  I think it will definitely throw people who expect that same rich, lush quality that comes from something made on film, and it doesn't really look like anything I've seen before.  But that's a surface thing.  This is still recognizably the world that was created for "Lord Of The Rings," but it looks more like you're seeing behind-the-scenes footage that reveals it was all a real location instead of seeing something created for a movie.  I think the 48FPS format actually makes the digital and practical work more seamless in some ways, but the overall impression takes a while to get used to as a viewer.  If you already dislike 3D, I'm not sure this is going to change your mind, and I'm planning to go back and see the film again in regular 2D to see if the issues I have with the look are simply part of seeing the format projected or if they are inherent to the way the movie was created.  I'm also determined to see at least a few minutes of another 48FPS screening so I can figure out if it was the projection or the process I had the problem with.

There are several returning artists on the film, like Ian McKellen and Howard Shore and Andrew Lesnie, whose work is every bit as good as it was before, and I think for the most part, "Lord Of The Rings" fans are going to feel like this is a welcome return to MIddle Earth.  But there are enough uneven qualities this time around that I find myself astonished by the letter grade I'm assigning the film.  My hope is that the three films taken together will work better than this one does on its own, and that the pacing issues are not going to be ongoing as the series continues.  We've got another six hours or so of Middle-Earth to look forward to in 2013 and 2014, and I have to hope that my issues with the overload of characters and the episodic quality of the story will be addressed by the rest of the series.  For now, "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" is a good start, but with the expectations resting on the film, is good going to be good enough?

"The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" opens December 14, 2012.

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    Brendan

    I read a lot of your issues Drew and what strikes me is that while they are very real problems they are also EXACTLY the 'problems' that marked the book. It is episodic and has a start-stop pacing and it is loaded with characters that are just sort of there. Bilbo joing the company on a whim is kind of exactly what Bilbo did in the book. While I have no doubt in your raising an issue with them, I wonder how much Jackson et. al could have changed before they weren't even making THE HOBBIT anymore.

    December 4, 2012 at 1:12AM EST Reply to Comment
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      drew They are definitely problems with the source material, too, and I'm well aware of how much heavy lifting PJ and Fran and Philippa have to do to make these work as movies. With "LOTR," it felt seamless, and here, it still feels like a lot of set pieces with connective tissue that is less successful.

      December 4, 2012 at 1:44AM EST
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    toby_wan

    Before people start freaking out and attacking you, I just want to say that I've always appreciated your intelligent, thoughtful and even-keeled approach to reviews, no matter the film. And I thank you for all the work that goes into doing just that.

    December 4, 2012 at 1:27AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Roadshow Reply to comment...

      December 4, 2012 at 11:22AM EST
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      Roadshow Damn.
      Just wanted to second the above whole heartedly.
      Drew's reviews are thoughtful and insightful and always add to my understanding of a film, whether I agree or not.

      I'm especially glad to be able to escape the natural hyperbole surrounding this movie here. Thank you.

      Yeah, I love The Hobbit as a book. It's lots of fun and that is very different in tone to the trilogy so it is hard to imagine this book spread over 2/3 movies.
      I suppose Jackson has earned my trust though.

      I'll be there opening night.
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      December 4, 2012 at 11:26AM EST
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    Joe

    This is more or less what I was expecting with "The Hobbit". I still think 3 films is nonsensical, and there are lots of issues I have with the books that I thought would translate into the film, and it seems they do. That said, when I go to see this film I'm not going to be grumpy - Ill be a the 13 year old me again who couldn't wait to see more from middle-earth.

    December 4, 2012 at 1:37AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Richard M And that is unquestionably the greatest problem, if the early reviews like Drew's are to be believed. It's too simple of a story spread out over too much film time, and the addition of extra Tolkien canon narratives into it to flesh it out makes the problem of a cohesive narrative more difficult, not less. Two movies, especially clocking in at 3 hours plus each, was already a serious stretch. The decision to move to three movies is being seen, and will be seen, as a critical mistake - unless, of course, the only motive was to make more money. And while I'm a cynic, I know enough about Peter Jackson to believe that was not the sole or even major motive.

      December 5, 2012 at 12:55PM EST
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    Beef Supreme

    I thought "Fellowship of the ring" was dull and unexciting, and because of that I actually skipped The Two Towers completely until the EE of it was shown theatrically the week before ROTK opened. I now regard TTT:EE as one of the top 5 movies I have ever seen (still don't care much for FOTR).

    So with that in mind, I like that the expectations are set more modestly for The Hobbit than they were for LOTR... at least for me. So thanks for keeping them in check, Drew, I have a feeling I might enjoy it all the more because of it.

    December 4, 2012 at 1:37AM EST Reply to Comment
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    David

    Excellent review as always. Your FotR review was first time I had ever paid attention to a review; indeed, I have followed you ever since. You have elevated your work to an art form and I appreciate what you do. Good points on the travails of following up on what is essentially a perfect film. I hope the HFR was a projection issue because I have hope for the format

    December 4, 2012 at 1:39AM EST Reply to Comment
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    John G.

    Will we be able to watch it in 48FPS 2D? Or are they only offering the higher frame rate for 3D screenings?

    December 4, 2012 at 1:40AM EST Reply to Comment
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      drew It is, to the best of my knowledge, only for 3D screenings.

      December 4, 2012 at 1:45AM EST
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      John G. That's disappointing. I will definitely see the movie and was very curious about the new frame rate, but I'm not sure my eyes can handle 3 hours of 3D.

      December 4, 2012 at 2:12AM EST
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      Bananaman That's actually and interesting point. 48fps would definitely benefit 2D as well.

      December 4, 2012 at 3:04AM EST
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      blue_flames My wife was reading something the other day (I don't know where tho, sorry) about there being 6 different releases , 24 & 48 in 2d & 3d + 2 imax variations.

      December 4, 2012 at 4:13PM EST
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      Dave Brown There's lots of show time options available:
      1. PLF (large screen) 3D HFR
      2. 3D HFR
      3. 3D
      4. 2D

      December 10, 2012 at 7:46PM EST
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    FranklynStreet

    I had a similar experience watching Fellowship that you seem to have for The Hobbit. But I was fully on board for The Two Towers and Return-- at least up until the point we got the ridiculous 17 endings.

    But by nature, The Hobbit isn't on the same scale as Rings. It's a much smaller, and yet more episodic, adventure story. When I heard they splitting this into two films, and then three, I got increasingly worried. It's still Jackson, and he's still a visionary, so I'm sure it will still be great on many levels and worth watching. But an adaptation of The Hobbit likely would have been better served by making one long film and getting everything done in one sitting, and making sure there was no fat on the bone. Spreading it over three films, and adding all of the fat from the appendices and additional writings, just seems like a very bad idea to me. That wanting to be a completist on Jackson's part I don't think can serve The Hobbit in the same way it served LoTR.

    December 4, 2012 at 1:48AM EST Reply to Comment
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    mgrabois

    Drew, what were your reviews like for the second and third LOTR movies?

    I think "Hobbit" has to suffer somewhat as compared to "LOTR" because of the nature of the books themselves. Jackson & Co had to cut material out to get the three books into three movies, while they had to add and pad to get one book into two (and then) three for "Hobbit". I'm not super-familiar with the source material - I've read each a few times over the years, but not since "Return of the King" - so how distracting is the material from the Appendices and whatnot as seen in "Hobbit"? Do you think they could have told the story in two movies, or even one?

    December 4, 2012 at 2:20AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Cleave The material that they are adding tells the story of Gandalf meeting with the White Council and fighting the Necromancer in Dol Guldur when he left Bilbo and the Dwarves in Mirkwood. As he is back for the conclusion, I'd imagine that story will be played out in the next film. The added stuff in this one serves to set up those events.

      I absolutely loved the Hobbit, and I don't really see how they could have changed that much without making it feel like it wasn't true to the story. There are pacing issues I guess but it's definitely the first part of the story rather than something more standalone, which won't be a problem when the complete trilogy has been released.

      December 17, 2012 at 3:15PM EST
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    mridge1

    I just can't get enthused for this film. I'll obviously see it but it just doesn't seem to be on the level of the LOTR films.

    December 4, 2012 at 2:24AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Feydaway

    How does the "riddles in the dark" sequence play at 48 FPS? Honestly, that is the only sequence that interests me in that format (for this film). Smaug and the battle of the 5 armies would also interest me (if they do it).

    December 4, 2012 at 2:26AM EST Reply to Comment
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      guest I am not a Gollum fan, but his scenes are the only ones that work in this movie, really.

      December 4, 2012 at 9:52PM EST
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    BigAl6ft6

    Quick, Drew! Go back in time a year and tell your past-self that you gave a higher rating to "Ted" over "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" and tell us what his reaction is (after past-you gets over the fact that time-travel is real when talking to future-you)

    December 4, 2012 at 2:55AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Kaeper

    Unsurprised given that the Hobbit is a short book that's been stretched out to 3x3hr movies. Two movies tops and we could have had a nice tight tale. None of the appendix story in LOTR is needed for the Hobbit tale and no additional reimagining by Jackson is needed ever.

    December 4, 2012 at 3:21AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Kasch

    It wasn't just an issue with your projection. I felt the "1.5x" feeling at my screening as well which made it harder to focus on some of the action. As entertaining as the film was, I couldn't shake the fact that it looked like a BBC special. Overall, I agree with every word of this review.

    December 4, 2012 at 3:45AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Eyes A lot of the feedback about the HFR on The Hobbit sounds like something is really wrong. The comparison to BBC dramas comes from the fact that for many years their standard format was 50fps interlaced, but for the past decade or so the premium look for TV dramas everywhere has been 24/25 fps, because it has been achievable digitally. Yes, 24fps is the goal and the sweet spot, not the limitation.

      This is in fact the opposite of what Peter Jackson has been saying. His claim is that filmmakers were stuck with 24fps since the 1920s because of technical limitations and the price of film stock. He says it's forced on directors, not an aesthetic choice. Unfortunately, that's just wrong, because HFR formats have been around for a long time (various types of HDTV, and on film via Maxivision48, etc). And there's no shortage of directors who opted for video and HFR, like Peter Greenaway, Michael Mann and David Lynch. Everyone agrees that those movies look awful beyond words, and usually when directors talk about why they like the format they say video cameras were more convenient to use than film cameras. I don't like the way Peter Jackson is misrepresenting the history of the medium in order to sell a gimmick that nobody asked for.

      December 4, 2012 at 10:43PM EST
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    Darren

    There are 13 Dwarfs, a lot but not 6000. That kind of hyperbole isn't clever or funny.

    December 4, 2012 at 4:58AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Marquan Really, dude? Hyperbole is a well established rhetorical device and I thought it was a least a little funny. Are you concerned that anyone will actually think there are 6000 dwarves and freak out?

      December 4, 2012 at 5:03AM EST
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      Darren I know there are not 6000 dwarfs. It is similar to saying 'zillions' when trillion or billion will do. I get that there a lot of dwarfs but the fellowship was nine characters deep, an extra few isn't that hard for an audience to remember, and Two Towers and Return of the King added even more character and yet if asked to name the main characters of the LOTR trilogy I don't think I'd have trouble naming 20. The dwarfs may not be well used (and they will have more time in the next two films) but there is no need for the hyperbole of a ten year old.

      December 4, 2012 at 6:21AM EST
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      Axel Foley I thought it was amusing and contributed to the point Drew was making.

      December 4, 2012 at 6:27AM EST
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      Marquan I agree it's not that hard to keep track of 13 characters. I don't think that Drew was suggesting any dwarves be eliminated from the movie; rather he was saying the introduction scene should have been compressed for narrative economy. It's also very different from saying 'zillions,' which is childish since it is not a real number, when Drew is making a metaphorical point highlighting the interminable nature of the scene. Personally I think I might enjoy the scene since I love the book, but a movie review is addressing a different set of criteria than whether you or I might like the movie.

      December 4, 2012 at 8:06AM EST
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      Beef Supreme You're a zillion times less clever and funny.
      Plus you should at least acknowledge that Harry Knowles Dwarf is funny.

      December 4, 2012 at 11:43AM EST
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      Dave I I think the hyperbole was apt. It made the point that there were a lot of dwarves, and that if they bumped up the number by four dwarves and never really gave them much to do warranting their creation for the films, why bother? It sounds as if it detracts from the movie making more characters to remember that are notable for doing nothing. Even if the series rebounds and makes them great (all thirteen dwarves) or kills off some to heighten the stakes and make the remaining nine from the story important, it still ended up being ineffective for this ~three hour movie. A smaller, more intimate cast (or at least just focusing on the more integral characters) makes them each worth more, or at least makes for a much less sprawling story. If you have thirteen dwarves and none of them do much, why bother adding them?

      -Cheers

      December 4, 2012 at 1:05PM EST
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      Marquan Dave, just FYI, there are 13 dwarves in the book and 13 in the movie.

      December 4, 2012 at 1:48PM EST
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      Dave I @Marquan, sorry. It's been a long time since I read the book. I am fine being wrong and can recant that point. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

      -Cheers

      December 4, 2012 at 2:14PM EST
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      December 4, 2012 at 5:27PM EST
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      vicdigital There are zillions of trolls in the movie, and apparently, there's at least one in the comments section of this review...

      December 4, 2012 at 5:29PM EST
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      Rae VCDIGITAL, are you saying the OP is a troll simply because he disagrees with the review? The world revolves on differences of opinion.

      December 7, 2012 at 6:28AM EST
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    Axel Foley

    I had no idea the Tolkien estate disapproved of the LOTR trilogy. Does anybody have any idea why?

    December 4, 2012 at 6:20AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Mark Erm, did you see the movies?

      December 4, 2012 at 6:38AM EST
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      Axel Foley Yes, they were brilliant, respectful and helped sell a gazillion more books and make a bazillion more fans. What was not to love?

      December 4, 2012 at 7:28AM EST
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      Mark You have to see it from the point of view of Christopher Tolkien. To him the words of his father are sacrosant. Jackson's changes and adaptations are viewed by Christopher as a vandalisation of his father's works. Changing the characters of Aragorn and Faramir, having Arwen content to leave Aragorn until she founds out they have a child, those kinds of changes are kind of unforgivable to the Tolkien family, along with the dumbing down of the work into an American action-adventure blockbuster format.

      I enjoyed the films for what they are but it is clear to see why some members of the Tolkien family would be horrified by what happened to the books.

      December 4, 2012 at 7:34AM EST
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      Roadshow Here's a link to an interview with Christopher Tolkien from the French newspaper Le Monde. (Tolkien lives in France.)
      http://www.lemonde.fr/culture/article/2012/07/05/tolkien-l-anneau-de-la-discorde_1729858_3246.html

      Naturally, it's in French but you can use Chrome or Google Translate to read it and you'll get a fairly good idea of where he's coming from.

      I can see where he's coming from but I also think he is willfully failing to see the good Jackson has brought to his father's work in terms of attention on it.

      December 4, 2012 at 1:01PM EST
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      Mark Here's the English translation:

      http://sedulia.blogs.com/sedulias_translations/2012/07/was-first-felt.html

      And the key passage:

      'Invited to meet Peter Jackson, the Tolkien family preferred not to. Why? "They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people 15 to 25," Christopher says regretfully. "And it seems that The Hobbit will be the same kind of film."

      This divorce has been systematically reactivated by the movies. "Tolkien has become a monster, devoured by his own popularity and absorbed into the absurdity of our time," Christopher Tolkien observes sadly. "The chasm between the beauty and seriousness of the work, and what it has become, has overwhelmed me. The commercialisation has reduced the esthetic and philosophical impact of the creation to nothing. There is only one solution for me: turning my head away."'

      December 4, 2012 at 1:17PM EST
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      Dave I Not to be insensitive, however I am not entirely sure what Christopher Tolkien has to complain about. I thought The Lord of the Rings was a pretty reasonably accurate transcription from book to movie. It was about as accurate & faithful as you could expect in Hollywood. I am not sure I buy into the "action movie for young people 15 to 25" argument. And as for commercialisation? I read part of the translated version and it seems like some of that has to do with the movie effecting the art of the books, video games, etc.

      Here is where I disagree. First, if Jackson offered to meet them and they said no, they lost any real way to influence his vision of The Hobbit, at least. Also, the book is still there for anybody who wants to read it. These movies increased awareness, and yes sales, which also increased readership. Thus increasing the philosophical impact. I know because I was substitute teaching and some relatively-troubled high school kids were reading The Hobbit and the LotR novels as a direct result of the movies. That "[a]esthetic and philosophical impact" is nil if the story does not reach them. It also seems like a case of them wanting to control how the story is told/viewed. If/once you have sold the rights to Hollywood, that is gone. However, the books are still there for people to read.

      I am also not sure I believe the basic philosophical message or most of the major components of the story were at all changed in the movie. Sure, there were changes, and some bothered me or had me questioning it. However, the overall story was the same. Thankfully less singing. I am curious what others (including Christopher Tolkien, but fans of the books at large) could/should have been done differently? I mean, I thought Jackson did a pretty good job bringing a pretty dense trilogy of books to the big screen. There have certainly been much, much, much worse translations. Besides, it seems wrong for Christopher Tolkien to criticize what could very well be taken as Peter Jackson's interpretation of J.R.'s works.

      -Cheers

      December 4, 2012 at 1:41PM EST
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      Axel Foley Thanks for the links guys!

      Dave, i agree with every word you just said. You saved me the 15 minutes it would've taken me to write the same thing only less succinctly than you did.

      December 4, 2012 at 2:24PM EST
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      ushaped @Dave I, couldn't agree more. I tend to think Christopher Tolkien's opinion to be worthless. J.R.R. only wrote four Middle Earth books. The family and Christopher specifically, were the first to exploit these works with the publication of journals and writings J.R.R. never meant to publish. Christopher has even gone so far as to write Middle Earth novels himself. In this light, I feel the family cannot be considered to be the protector of J.R.R.'s interests.

      December 4, 2012 at 9:29PM EST
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      nic919 I did not realize that Tolkien's family hated the LOTR movies so much. While not perfect, LOTR is about as good as you can get in terms of adapting the novels for film, especially in a fantasy setting and yet preserving the spirit of the text. I think Christopher Tolkien just needs to get over himself. If Shakespeare and Jane Austen can have their works adapted to film, then changes can be made to the Tolkien oeuvre. I have read the novels and watched the films and while I have concerns about the Hobbit being split in three, I think the LOTR films were very good adaptations of the novels.

      December 4, 2012 at 9:46PM EST
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    Axel Foley

    Oh, while I'm in the posting mood - excellent review by the way Drew, as always. I don't always agree with your opinions but I always appreciate how put them across and that's what keeps me coming back. Keep up the good work!

    December 4, 2012 at 6:31AM EST Reply to Comment
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    cornholio1980

    Great review, as usual. I really was excited to hear your opinion on "The Hobbit", and it's pretty much what I expected. It can and never will be as good as LOTR, for multiple reasons. Despite the hype, for many it came out of the blue, and totally surprised them. The story is just far more dramatic and the stakes far higher. I knew from the beginning that those would be issues, and that everyone that expects LOTR 2 sets himself up for disappointment. The Hobbit trilogy can never be as goot as the Lord of the Rings trilogy, simply because the novels are so far apart quality-wise. I except this gap to shorten considerably with the movies, however.

    I can't describe how incredibly sad I was when ROTK came to an end. The thought of never coming back to middle earth (at least not on the big screen; and by that I mean seeing a "new" adventure, not revisiting the old ones) devastated me. Going by your review, I will get exactly what I hoped for: Another adventure in middle earth, smaller in scope and scale, with smaller stakes, and not the same level of excitement, but still an enjoyable journey through a land that I've come to love.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:05AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Dennis

    Bugger!! Drew just listed the problems with this film, and it was the exact same fears i have had through the production, not enough on stake compared to LOTR, and to many dwarves-to-care-for-problem. I really hoped it would not be an issue, but i guess it is.
    At the beginning PJ announced 20 questions on his FB like he did on LOTR, it only amounted to one question unfortunately, but the one i asked - was how would he keep the timeless quality of LOTR in the Hobbit now that he's shooting digital and 3D. Because i do really believe that one of the reasons that LOTR resonated with such a large audience was off course a great story and the wit to handle it just right, but also to manage the effect in such a way that it looked timeless, it almost looked as if it was shot the same time as Lawrence of Arabia or something. I have booked tickets to a HFR 3D Screening because i defintely want to see it like PJ intended, but i'm beginning to fear that we might not get the return to this magical world we all wanted....
    i really hope i don't agree with drew after seeing this...

    December 4, 2012 at 7:10AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Eyes

    It sounds a lot like the problems come out of the way these movies are made. Hundreds of people rely on Jackson for work, so he conceives his movies as elaborate VFX showcases (I recently heard that these movies will cost a _billion_ dollars. How far wrong is that?). Nobody dares question his judgement. This suits his aesthetics because he's never seen an effect he can't overuse. Every sky is painted over, every shot overcluttered, and the more of everything the merrier. Nothing feels convincing because he either doesn't know or doesn't care that computer graphics is still, and will be for a long time, a poor substitute for reality.

    The sad thing is that Mr. Jackson really can do better. As someone who has followed his career right from the start, at the first showings of Bad Taste outside New Zealand, I know he can make entertaining movies. But he can't perform properly at this scale. The story seems to serve the production, not the other way around.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:20AM EST Reply to Comment
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    BobT

    The sped up feeling sounds worrisome. I found a website wich had upconverted one of the trailers into 48 fps. It had a very technical explanation how it was done so it seemed legit. At the same time they noted it wasn't a completely accurate portrayal of how it would look in theatres.

    So I while the image did look smoother, I figured the sped up look was just something that was a side effect of the attempt to upconvert existing images.

    But now I underdstand that the actual movie also has that problem? That's going to be a huge problem for me if I were to see the movie in that format.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Andrew

    On repeat viewings of the LotR movies I find certain parts of the pacing drag. I figured stretching the Hobbit to 8-9 hours would only amplify that effect.

    I was 5 when the animated Hobbit came on television in 1977. I'm 40 now and still watch that. It really does feel like an epic adventure even though its only 77 minutes long.

    Show that to your kids Drew. It's still great.

    December 4, 2012 at 7:48AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Fawst

    Ugh, I was really looking forward to 48fps, but it sounds from your description like it's that same BS they have on newer TV's with "motion smoothing." Yeah, panning shots look great, but everything else looks like it's running in fast-forward. The first time I ever saw it was on a plasma at Best Buy showing an episode of Lost. I thought the broadcast was messed up or the TV was broken, so it sounds like 48fps is more of the same. It's not revolutionary and it's certainly not "good." What a disappointment.

    December 4, 2012 at 8:17AM EST Reply to Comment
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    JerryPolock

    "Your kids may be different, but if you have any question or hesitation, I would urge you to see it first. You'll be glad you did."

    If my parents did that to me as a kid, go see it without me, there would be hell to pay and they would still be being emotionally punished for it to this day.

    December 4, 2012 at 8:49AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Shawn

    Thats too bad that it isn't a great re-telling of The Hobbit. I do understand all your points Drew, and I appreciate the review. I will still see it, because I am very curious. And at least you saying its good is good enough for me to still check it out. Not as big of expectations though as before..

    December 4, 2012 at 11:00AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Mark

    "it is so big, so crazy, so non-stop that I had trouble accepting that any of the characters would actually make it through it intact"

    Sounds exactly like the Brontosaur stampede in King Kong. There are times when Jackson's More-is-More approach works. The T-Rex attack with Kong went to another exhilarating level when it moved to the swinging vines. But that doesn't always work and it is what gives Jackson's films a feeling of indulgence that tests the patience of less forgiving viewers.

    December 4, 2012 at 11:27AM EST Reply to Comment
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    velocityknown

    I mean, the problem with The Hobbit, as you mentioned is that it's about all the little stories that take place during the larger one because those little stories don't necessarily connect to the larger one.

    Peter Jackson and Co cut all of the little stories that no one cared about in the LOTR trilogy out of the movie. It's not really a surprise, though it is unfortunate, that a 300 page booked being stretched into 3 movies has pacing issues.

    As for the 48fps, I don't know if we'll ever understand what Jackson's team wanted out of that move. It makes no sense to shoot a movie at 48fps and it makes even less sense to posit it as a technological innovation when all they're doing is changing a setting on a camera.

    December 4, 2012 at 11:46AM EST Reply to Comment
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      velocityknown Oh, and great review, Drew.

      December 4, 2012 at 11:47AM EST
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      prettok Have you ever met a Tolkein fan? There are no "little stories that no one cares about" in his books. There are oddballs out there who are furious that non-entities like Glorfindel, Fatty Bolger and Gan-buri-gan were left out of the movies!

      December 4, 2012 at 2:54PM EST
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      velocityknown "No one cared about" might be too broad. But those kinds of Tolkein fans are far and few between and most have no problems with not seeing those kinds of stories moved to the big screen.

      December 4, 2012 at 5:33PM EST
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    Dave I

    A Harry Knowles Dwarf, eh? Does he constantly refer to things in overtly sexual terms as well?

    As for the movie itself... Part of me wants to see this, and I was cool letting Peter Jackson make two or three movies out of The Hobbit. Particularly if they're adding stuff from the appendix (or whatever) of the LotR trilogy, or wherever. However, I dislike the notion of a ton of characters who we never really know, or the inclusion of old cliche's and tropes, a protagonist who seems to be there because that's what's written and not because they gave any reason for them to be there (what is this, Revolution?). Also, if it feels like they are trying to outdo the LotR trilogy of films to the extent that it plays like The Matrix with save points instead of just telling the story that was good enough to make The Hobbit such a classic story, and set in a world where the victories seemed hard-fought and with consequences... What is the point?

    I hope they pull it off as a series. I really just want a solid telling of the story that ties it into the LotR series. If they try too hard, they are going to lose a lot of what made The Hobbit special in the first place, and it will not fit into the larger series/world/whatever as a whole.

    -Cheers

    December 4, 2012 at 11:51AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Dave I

    Is there any good article or quick summary to the problems or reasoning behind why the Tolkien family hated the original trilogy (Lort of the Rings, not Star Wars) so much? I had not heard that and am just curious what their beef was with them.

    -Cheers

    December 4, 2012 at 11:54AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Dave I Scratch that, I missed the thread by Axel above where an interview was linked. Sorry.

      -Cheers

      December 4, 2012 at 1:06PM EST
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    Monty Jack

    Are the end credits for this really SIXTEEN MINUTES long?!

    December 4, 2012 at 12:01PM EST Reply to Comment
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    haarp

    Oh god.. the hobbit is getting slaughtered

    December 4, 2012 at 12:09PM EST Reply to Comment
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