Cannes Film Festival 2013

Film Nerd 2.0: Universal monsters, Bud and Lou, and something really scary

We go from (Bud) Abbott to (Twilight) Zone to discuss what scares the boys

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Allen asked every day for the next week to see the rest of "Twilight Zone," but if one of them isn't ready, the other isn't going to see it.  Keeps things nice and even, and with sibling rivalry, that's a big deal.  My wife put an official ban on all horror films or horror-related films in the house, which was a crushing upset for both of the kids.  Even though Toshi knew he wasn't ready for a real horror movie, he remains fascinated by every creepy thing that comes into the house.  I've caught him going through the three big binders of horror movies that I have, 300 discs in each one, looking at the discs and the artwork on them.  When one of the Shout! Factory box-sets for "Mystery Science Theater 3000" showed up, Toshi was excited to see that one of the films was "Revenge Of The Creature." 

It's interesting watching "MST3K" with them.  We've got everything that Rhino and Shout! Factory have put out, almost one full shelf of discs, and the boys like watching movies with Tom Servo and Crow and Joel or Mike.  They don't really laugh the same way I do, and certainly they don't get 99.9% of the cultural references, but they view it as an opportunity to watch a movie with their friends.  Since Toshi and Allen have most of the Toho Godzilla movies and most of the Gamera movies in their original forms, they don't innately see those movies as bad when they watch them with the bots.  Watching a "MST3K" episode with them is like having a movie party with a bunch of rowdy friends, and it's part of our moviewatching cycle to throw one in from time to time.  They both immediately noticed that the Gill Man looked different in this film.  Allen told me that he looked like he wanted to throw up:

 

They were confused about why anyone would try to put the Gill Man in an aquarium, and not remotely surprised when it went badly.  It's a pretty funny episode, and I had to explain to the kids that the running thread in the host segments about Crow not knowing who Mike is was because they were changing puppeteers at the time.  Because we've been watching the series out of order, they already know that the host segments are always changing.  This was the introduction of Bobo, the first post-Forrester episode, and they were really entertained by seeing how that was handled.  It was a lazy Sunday afternoon, a good way to hang out with them, and there was more talking than watching, which is always a good time.  And one of the things that most excited them was when I pointed out a guy who appeared in one big scene at the start of the movie... young guy... goes by the name Clint Eastwood.  The boys only know his name right now from "Back To The Future Part III," so it entertains me mightily that their first exposure to the real thing comes from one of his very first film appearances in a bit part.  Awesome.

I took them to see "Frankenweenie" before it came out, and they had a great time with it.  There was nothing about it that scared them, not even the crazy bat-mutant creature that shows up towards the end.  They were charmed by it, and they both loved Sparky and the Frankenstein jokes and the Bride of Frankenstein hair-streak and the look and the mood.  And when the other classmates raise the other dead animals late in the film and they take monstrous shape, the turtle Shelly grows to giant size, and in the Disney theater on the lot, in a packed house surrounded by people, Allen loudly and proudly cried out --

"DAD! IT'S GAMERA!"

And it was like he was a teenage girl in Shea Stadium he was so excited.  He was so pleased to have made the connection, and so happy to see Gamera on the big screen.  I guarantee they'll make "Frankenweenie" a regular event once it arrives home on Blu-ray.  Already they've asked me to play the original live-action version on the "Nightmare Before Christmas" Blu-ray a few times, and they're really intrigued by what's the same and what's different.  They like the full-length film better, but they think the real-life Sparky is great.  And the Universal Monsters thing that underscores both versions is, of course, an ongoing fetish for the boys.

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Drew McWeeny
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A respected critic and commentator for fifteen years, Drew McWeeny helped create the online film community as "Moriarty" at Ain't It Cool News, and now proudly leads two budding Film Nerds in their ongoing movie education.

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    Daniel S. Duvall

    Your boys might enjoy the Tim Conway & Don Knotts vehicle The Private Eyes -- a perfect blend of comedy and spookiness that fascinated me when I was a kid.

    November 14, 2012 at 5:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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      drew How funny... I have "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken" already set aside for them soon.

      November 14, 2012 at 5:45AM EST
    • Army of darkness seems like it might just be goofy enough for younger kids to enjoy wwithout being totally freaked out

      November 14, 2012 at 9:24AM EST
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    Wires

    That just took me back to my childhood and the original King Kong, I was so scared at the beginning but was in tears when they shot him down at the end, the power of film amplified by youth.

    Another great read Drew, thanks for sharing.

    November 14, 2012 at 6:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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    James

    That opening to Twilight Zone: The Movie still creeps me out, even as an adult.

    November 14, 2012 at 7:23AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Judge Holden

    The Twilight Zone movie does seem a bit intense for kids that young. Even if Toshi had endured the opening, I imagine that the "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" segment would have caused issues. I'm guessing you wouldn't have discussed the tragic helicopter accident with them either way.

    Do you think the kids would enjoy Ghostbusters? Also, sorry in advance if you've already answered this but do you plan on finishing the Bond Declassified series?

    November 14, 2012 at 8:06AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Stormshadow4life

    1) Are they forcing you to have multiple page clicks for articles now? That's not annoying at all
    2) the comments only seem to show up on page 4.
    3) New article for Cloud Atlas??????

    November 14, 2012 at 9:33AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Monty Jack Honestly, FIVE PAGES for this article? It should have been on two pages at the most. Pretty lame to force readers to click on the same article five times just to sell more advertising space.

      November 14, 2012 at 11:19AM EST
    • It's not as bad as those gallery posts they sometimes make where you have to click like 10 slides or something. That's the worst.

      November 15, 2012 at 11:53AM EST
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    Extraneous_Ed

    This is a constant discussion in my house. I have twin girls who are almost 8, and my son is 18 months younger than the twins. The girls have very different tastes; one is a budding geek who loves Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel movies, etc... The other wants to be a Disney princess. We've waited to watch "Revenge of the Sith" because the kids know there is a scene at the end on "a fire planet", and they all have a pretty strong fear of fire (which I think, honestly, dates back to the end of "Bolt", which freaked them out at that age than anything else they've ever seen).
    When "Raiders of the Lost Ark" hit IMAX in Sept., I desperately wanted to take my budding geek (the other 2 thought it would be too scary). We watched the opening 20 minutes about 3 times at home on DVD, and she thought it was awesome. My wife relented, but we had a bet: If the movie was too scary, she got to win every argument about whether they were old enough to watch something for the rest of the school year.
    Long story short, she loved it. She actually thought the melting faces were funny. She was laughing about it in the car home. It was interesting too how it provided a real chance to talk about World War II and the Nazis, and introduce her to those concepts.
    I won the bet, and she has begging me to watch "Temple of Doom" for months. But I think we're skipping that and going straight to "Last Crusade" for the time being. Melting faces are ok, but I'm not sure she's ready for still beating hearts ripped out of people's chests.

    November 14, 2012 at 10:38AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Franko

    man, there's no way i would show the twilight zone to kids that young, i think. i mean, The Thing In The Crate? nightmares. i don't envy the fine line you're having to tread here...

    November 14, 2012 at 12:43PM EST Reply to Comment
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      drew "The Crate" is a segment in "Creepshow," not "The Twilight Zone," and I agree... "Creepshow" is waaaaaaaaay beyond what they're capable of right now.

      November 14, 2012 at 1:20PM EST
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      Franko oh, doh - you're right. i think i saw them around the same time period, so i guess i got them mixed up in my head.

      November 14, 2012 at 1:25PM EST
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      jeves23 "The Crate" scared the everloving crap out of me as a kid.... still can't watch it.

      November 14, 2012 at 1:48PM EST
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    JeremyWheeler

    I totally see where they're coming from with Pirates of Penzance. Grew up with that one on VHS from a young age and can see that a lot of my love for comedy comes from Kline and Tony Azito. Both are incredibly great in that flick and perfect for a kid to love. Another great Film Nerd article, Drew. Thanks.

    November 14, 2012 at 1:43PM EST Reply to Comment
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    jeves23

    As always, a great article. I look forward to each new edition of "Film Nerd 2.0". It got me thinking about the stuff that scared me as a kid (The Great Mouse Detective[the peg-legged bat scared the crap out of me], Superman III), and what some of my earliest movie memories are(Jaws, TGMD), and how I watched them, and how they affected me. I have no kids, and so it is a bit of a journey back in time for me when I read these articles.
    Also, I recently picked up the Universal Monsters set and finally watched The Wolfman (it was okay), and The Creature from the Black Lagoon, which might just be my favourite now (along with Bride of Frankenstein). There is something about that shot of him swimming under her that is terrifying and beautiful and just creepy; if they ever do a remake (probably only a matter of time) all the colour and CG in world won't be able to match it.

    November 14, 2012 at 1:45PM EST Reply to Comment
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    John

    Salems Lot, was about 5. the boy flaoting at the window and Mike Ryerson in the rocking chair still, havent been able to watch it since!!! (and im 40)

    November 14, 2012 at 2:50PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Solid Muldoon

    Have the boys seen The Wizard of Oz? That is the first movie I remember scaring the bejeebus out of me. Flying Monkeys!!!

    November 14, 2012 at 7:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Noyer

    The first film I ever saw in a theatre is "Who Framed Roger Rabbitt?" and while not a scarry film, at the age of three, the ending of the film with Judge Doom terrified me to no end!

    Not sure if you have ever considered this, but one way to further test the waters might be using some classic episodes of "The Outer Limits". Some of the material in the original show is still scares the heck out of me, but some of the episodes might pkay well with your kids. Just leave "The Zanti Misfits" out of pile for now!

    November 14, 2012 at 8:26PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Noyer Blasted lack of an editing function! Sorry about the spelling issues.

      November 14, 2012 at 8:30PM EST
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    Adrick

    It's funny that you mention that version of Pirates of Penzance--it's the same one I grew up on and loved and haven't seen in a million years. If they ever get the chance to go, they might enjoy a live Gilbert and Sullivan production.

    November 15, 2012 at 12:22AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Paul S

    Thanks Drew - Another good article.

    November 15, 2012 at 3:04PM EST Reply to Comment

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