Exclusive: Warwick Davis on horseback riding in 'Willow' and how Val Kilmer helped him
As the Lucas/Howard fantasy gets the deluxe Blu-ray treatment, we've got a sneak peek
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I remember when "Willow" was first announced. I was working at a movie theater, and in those pre-Internet days, there were posters that would arrive and be the first indication that a movie even existed. Sure, I read "Starlog" and "Fangoria" and whatever issues of "Variety" I could get my hands on, and I did my best to be as tuned in as possible to what was happening in movies, but it was a lot harder to come by early information. As a result, when we opened the poster tubes on day and pulled out a gorgeous but mysterious teaser poster that consisted of red-orange clouds and a simple title treatment for "Willow" with the tagline "Forget all you know… or think you know," all we really had to go on was "From the creator of 'Star Wars'" at the top and "From the director of 'Cocoon'" at the bottom.
Almost immediately, the speculation began, and more than one person guessed that this was finally the new "Star Wars" film, a mere five years after the release of "Return Of The Jedi." In those days, we still believed that Lucas was going to continue making the films in a fairly timely manner, and even once other publicity materials started showing up, it took me a while to really believe that "Willow" was its own thing.
In the years since its release, "Willow" has attracted a genuinely dedicated fanbase. I think the film suffers from a lot of half-baked ideas and some real execution issues, but I also think there's an old school charm to it. In those days before computer effects really were ready to be used, "Willow" still felt hand-made. It was one of the last of the pure ILM VFX shows, and that certainly made a big impression on many viewers.
The first indication I had that "Willow" had really made an impression on my generation was when I met Warwick Davis on the set of the second Narnia movie. We had a long conversation about fandom and the way people have reacted to him over the years, and he talked about the "Willow" fans who really didn't care that he was in "Star Wars," who simply liked "Willow" as a stand-alone fantasy. I have to assume those are the same people who bought the various Chris Claremont/George Lucas "Willow"-inspired novels, and that those are the people who will be positively rabid when Fox releases "Willow" on Blu-ray next week.
I'm excited to revisit the film with my kids, who are starting to develop a taste for fantasy now. We watched "The Hobbit" together over the holidays, and we've started to play "Dungeons and Dragons" together, and the boys love the trappings of classic fantasy. They love the magic and the monsters and the sword fights and the whole world that is evoked, and when they realize that there's a fantasy movie that George Lucas produced, I expect they're going to lose their minds.
Today, we've got a clip of a deleted scene involving Warwick Davis as Willow, and I'm really pleased to be able to offer fans an exclusive debut of something from "Willow." Considering the film came out in 1988, it's nice to actually have something new to share, and I suspect that the bonus features on the Blu-ray are going to be a real treat for fans.
Anyway… enjoy the clip, and if you're a "Willow" fan, I'd love to hear about your experiences seeing it originally. At 18, I think I was in a fairly cynical anti-blockbuster mood at the time, and because it wasn't new "Star Wars," I suspect the film never really stood a fair shot with me. If your experience was different, tell me about it.
"Willow" arrives on Blu-ray and DVD on Tuesday, March 12.
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March 8, 2013 at 5:15AM EST Reply to CommentI was one of those people who bought Shadow Moon, and I think I vaguely remember enjoying it. I love the heck out of Willow, even though I'm well aware of it's shortcomings and even the fairly grating nature of some scenes. I know this because I watched it enough as a kid that my mother made sure to let me know how grating it was, especially the Brownies.
I'm not even much of a fantasy fan. I enjoy the good ones, but the iconography of fantasy doesn't set me afire, so I'm not drawn to them, but Willow is still a favourite.
Val Kilmer's Madmartigan goes a long way to making up for a lot of the film. In regards to introducing the boys to it, be warned; I recall being utterly terrified of a couple of sequences in the film, particularly Madmartigan becoming a pig. Nightmare fuel! Still, Madmartigan. Also, Joanne Whalley was yet another cinematic redhead, along with Jessica Rabbit and Tess Trueheart, who ushered me into another age.
Bradley Valentine
March 8, 2013 at 5:17AM EST Reply to CommentI watched WILLOW on HBO all the time and liked the Val Kilmer character. But always hated how the romance stuff sorta clipped his wings as a character all too fast. Even my 9yr old self realized he was supposed to be a Han Solo type. The rest of the movie always gave me a headache though. Warwick Davis was likeable but...I had no interest in that character. Essentially he was a mother. And the rest of it just felt kinda off to me. Maybe “not Star Wars” was all it was to me, too, I don’t know. Those kid reviewers on Nickelodeon lost their nut for Willow and I looked down on them for it. I was already into Lost Boys.
Joyeful
March 8, 2013 at 8:46AM EST Reply to CommentOkay - I just woke up and haven't had my coffee yet so maybe this is just me....but where's the clip?
Clip is up now. Sorry about that.
March 8, 2013 at 2:42PM ESTGuanoLad
March 8, 2013 at 9:54AM EST Reply to CommentI swear this is true: After Return of the Jedi I said to my mates that George Lucas ought to make a classic Fantasy film, and then after I saw Top Secret I said to them that Val Kilmer would be a great Fantasy action hero.
I knew about Willow because I'm from New Zealand, living not too far away from where it was being filmed in 1987, a really big deal for our tiny country at the time, but though I really wanted to be involved or visit the set somehow, I was too young to do anything about it.
I love the film. The only part I don't like is the concluding set-piece, which is a bit lame being stuck in a tiny room throwing stop motion furniture at each other. Everything else, though, was the right level of adventure, action, humour, and romance.
Mark Well said. The conclusion was slightly udnerwhelming but the rest of the film is classic Lucas. Drew's comments about treating the film cynically speak volumes about the reaction to Lucas's later works from the fanboy online media... something that has directly led to Star Wars becoming a corporate entity.
March 10, 2013 at 8:08AM ESTMark Well said. The conclusion was slightly udnerwhelming but the rest of the film is classic Lucas. Drew's comments about treating the film cynically speak volumes about the reaction to Lucas's later works from the fanboy online media... something that has directly led to Star Wars becoming a corporate entity.
March 10, 2013 at 8:08AM ESTLucas
March 8, 2013 at 10:14AM EST Reply to CommentI was 10 or so when it came out, and I enjoyed it. Saw it in the theatre, then maybe 5 or 6 times on video. I haven't seen it in ages, but I recall the pig-transformation (in the rain, if I remember correctly) being pretty scary and the jaunty, adventure-y brass leitmotif from the score is still in my head, so many years later.
FranklynStreet
March 8, 2013 at 10:25AM EST Reply to CommentDon't see a clip... just a still of present-day Warwick Davis in a black shirt.
Clip is up now, sorry about that.
March 8, 2013 at 2:42PM ESTVictor Laszlo
March 8, 2013 at 11:22AM EST Reply to CommentWillow is one of the very few fantasy films with real cultural texture and atmosphere, the first of Val Kilmer's truly great performances, and both the apex and epitaph of the traditional matte painting.
One can argue the credit due between Howard and Lucas, but I don't know enough about that production to do so. All I know is that I'll take the hideously surreal go-motion Eborsisk and the blood-and-rain-soaked desperation of the battle @ Nockmaar over just about anything of the kind since.
It's also both a better film than Jackson's 'Hobbitses Pt.1' AND a better tonal adaptation of JRR Tolkien's The Hobbit, while still remaining it's own thing. Sure there are some rough spots, but for me, it's unquestionably Ron Howards 2nd best film (behind Apollo 13).
I never read the post-movie books. Thank you for this article, Drew. Willow never gets it's due.
Fastbak
March 8, 2013 at 11:39AM EST Reply to CommentI still remember the theme music and the part they always showed in the commercials where Willow tells Madmartigan "You ARE great!" and Val Kilmer smiles while twirling his sword and then falls in the snow!
Fawst
March 8, 2013 at 1:30PM EST Reply to CommentDrew, when you say you watched "The Hobbit," you don't mean the Peter Jackson film?
drew I do.
March 8, 2013 at 7:30PM ESTCinemaPsycho No, he had his kids act it out in pantomime. Of course he means the Peter Jackson film.
March 9, 2013 at 3:37AM ESTaaron_roberts
March 8, 2013 at 2:13PM EST Reply to CommentHey, I had the NES game. On more than one occassion I remember saying to my brother during gameplay, "It'll never get better than this!". And I remember my brother saying, "It's like Zork I, but with graphics!" :-)
Game clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXJzTwU-XnI.
That theme music really takes me back...
JoeK
March 8, 2013 at 7:30PM EST Reply to CommentOh I love Willow and I'm really happy to be getting a BD. I had the very nice laserdisc pressing but my copy had a terrible playback error I discovered too late to replace it. My brother and sister and I loved the movie though and all the characters. It's a great spin through the genre and Kilmer's performance is kind of special. You're right too that ILM's work on the movie is the near pinnacle of the pre-digital era in terms of leaning on old tricks and perfecting the 80's toolbox they created. Any time a Spielberg or Lucas movie of any association came out in the 80s our parents made it a big event to go. I was older but I have vivid memories of all us seeing this in the theatre and reading about it near release in a copy of Starlog on a car trip. I'm really excited to share with my own son now I think he's in the same spot as your boys when it comes to this stuff.
L.Garcia
March 8, 2013 at 9:05PM EST Reply to CommentIn 1987, I remember a small blurb in the LA Times stating that Lucasfilm was scouting film locations in New Zealand and the article suggested it was for a Star Wars sequel. Excited, I remember cutting the article out and saving it. In retrospect, it was likely scouting for Willow. I was keyed into Willow early, because Starlog mentioned it, so I spent sometime wondering what the heck it was. I remember skipping school with some buddies to check out the film. It really is one of my favorite film experiences.
MIB
March 11, 2013 at 12:10PM EST Reply to CommentI was 12 and a sword & sorcery fan when it came out in the theater, and I remember really liking the character of Willow and the whole Nelwyn village. I also dug the warrior princess, Sorcha, and a lot of the magic effects (the trolls, the failed transformations of Fin Raziel, the pig sequence). I remember adults commenting at the time that they thought it was weird that the brownies had French-Canadian accents.
I think you're right about the homemade charm of it--it doesn't hold up as well as, say, Labyrinth to me, but I'm still fond of it. And watching it again recently, I was struck by how much the battle between Raziel and Bavmorda seemed like a direct inspiration for the fight between Gandalf and Saruman in LOTR.