Exclusive: Is Joseph Gordon-Levitt already set to play Batman in 'Justice League'?
Warner Bros. appears to be firming up their plans for the future of the character
Joseph Gordon-Levitt is set to step in as Batman for 'Justice League,' according to sources close to the production.
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It's starting to look like Warner Bros may hold Christopher Nolan in the highest possible regard, but that in the end, they own their characters and they will decide what they're going to do with them.
After all, we heard much talk this summer about how the Batman franchise was ending, at least as far as the current version is concerned, and I believe that Nolan was serious when he said that was the last story he had to tell about the character. But Nolan is working with Warner Bros. on the "Man Of Steel" relaunch this summer, and as we reported earlier today, director Zack Snyder is starting to hint at the idea that his film is part of a larger continuity.
Certainly, the ending of "The Dark Knight Rises" hints at a possible future for the franchise, and there has been much speculation about whether or not they'll work to connect the end of that film to the larger world of DC properties that Warner is so desperate to create. Over the last couple of weeks, that speculation seems to have turned into conversation, and that conversation seems to be solidifying into a plan.
According to sources, Joseph Gordon-Levitt absolutely will be appearing in "Justice League" as the new Batman.
Now here's where things get interesting. The more insistent the drumbeat has become, the more poking around I've been doing, and it's looking like we may see Gordon-Levitt in the suit earlier than that. They're a long way from filming anything "Justice League" related, but they appear to be solidifying deals for Gordon-Levitt and, potentially, at least one other actor from the Nolan films to do… something.
So let's take what we know and speculate a little bit. How crazy do you think fans would go if Superman were to take to the skies at the end of "Man Of Steel," finally ready to fully accept his role as mankind's most powerful protector, only to have the closing credits interrupted when something catches his attention and he swoops down out of that sky, landing on a rooftop where Jim Gordon stands next to the Bat-Signal, interrupting just as the new Batman arrives for a chat about Gotham's latest problem?
Pretty crazy, I'd wager.
Keep in mind, I'm not saying that will happen at the end of "Man Of Steel." I'm just saying that Warner Bros. has been studying the way Marvel handled their build-up to "The Avengers," and once they've made the decision they've apparently made, why not start laying the groundwork as soon as possible?
More than ever, I'm curious to lay eyes on "Man Of Steel," and to see just what Warner has in mind for the future. It's going to be fascinating.
UPDATE (11/27) - Hollywood.com contacted Joseph Gordon-Levitt's representatives, who denied the story. This is not surprising, as actors and their representatives routinely deny things that are not ready to be formally announced. We remain confident in our sources and our reporting, and look forward to further developments.
"Justice League" is tentatively scheduled for 2015, and in the meantime, "The Dark Knight Rises" arrives on DVD and Blu-ray next Tuesday.
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Next 218 Commentsalynch
November 26, 2012 at 11:54PM EST Reply to CommentJoseph, you'll never have more leverage in all your life. I hope you're using it for all its worth.
Latauro
November 26, 2012 at 11:57PM EST Reply to CommentOne conversation I've had with a lot of people has been that the Christopher Nolan films have been the best and worst thing that could happen to DC properties. The "best" should be obvious, both in terms of money and critical acclaim. But "worst" in that it was clear that the Christopher Nolan iteration of Batman could never, stylistically, fit into a larger Justice League world, and even if he could, we'd never see Christian Bale agreeing to it.
So this seems like a pretty smart move. But could we get a Wonder Woman and Flash movie going first? Isn't the Joss Whedon draft of Wonder Woman meant to be incredible? And wouldn't you want to splash "From the writer of The Avengers" over the poster? (Although I do see why they wouldn't want that.)
I even like the idea of Ryan Reynolds turning up, but that may be because I still haven't seen the GL movie, and remain unsullied. But I do like Reynolds.
foundnemo Your comment was quoted in the AtlanticWire. You're famous.
November 27, 2012 at 3:34PM ESTLatauro Thanks for the heads-up, Foundnemo!
November 28, 2012 at 7:53AM ESTfred I heard that Joss Whedon's draft of "WW" was amazing as well. I realize that it's the past and 'Whedon' has now moved on to far greener pastures, but it still makes you wonder how come Whedon and WB/DC could'nt get that movie worked out.
November 28, 2012 at 8:25AM ESTcultstatus
November 26, 2012 at 11:59PM EST Reply to CommentI've always maintained they should keep it in the Nolanverse and keep the continuity even after Nolan leaves. This is good news.
Frank White NO YOU IDIOT
November 27, 2012 at 3:21AM EST34PJM43 Why should they? Because Nolan made a couple great movies? DC has been getting Batman right in every other respect for the past 20+ years.
November 27, 2012 at 3:29AM ESTcultstatus lulz.
November 27, 2012 at 4:15AM ESTFelixP the Nolanverse is too realistic to include Superman. We never saw any true superhumans, unless you could Joker's impossibly complex planning ability.
November 27, 2012 at 2:04PM EST34PJM43 The "Nolanverse" isn't realistic at all.
November 27, 2012 at 2:54PM ESTA physically screwed up strongman who constantly needs a feed of gas to knock out his pan is somehow physically able to decimate a concrete pillar. Doesn't sound "realistic" to me.
34PJM43 pain*
November 27, 2012 at 2:54PM ESTfred Nolan made some fine 'Batman' films, but his universe is just too grounded and realistc for the "Justice League", you should know that. 'Batman' is a normal human being so that's diffferent, but the "JL" consist of superpowered beings fom other worlds like "The Avengers", so it has to have a similar feel, there is no possible way of geeting around that.
November 28, 2012 at 8:31AM ESTJacob
November 27, 2012 at 12:03AM EST Reply to CommentI can accept Blake as Nightwing but never as Batman. Having someone other than Bruce Wayne as Batman is just wrong for the Justice League. Either bring Bale back or get someone fresh to play Bruce Wayne IMO.
Albar After Batman's death Dick Grayson took the Batman identity in the comic series and Blake is kinda Dick Grayson in TDKR
November 27, 2012 at 1:07AM ESTTitus And it sucked Albar why they brougt Bruce back. If they're going to do a justice league movie and have it as big as the avengers movie they have to stay true. One of the key formulas that worked for the movie. To not have Bruce Wayne as Batman in the first ever justice league movie is stupid. Blake isn't Dick, Tim, Damian, or Jason. And Dick who was Robin then Nightwing there's a long history.
November 27, 2012 at 1:17AM ESTAlex L. Blake is a mixture of the four. He's an "adapted" Robin. For all intents and purposes, his going on and becoming the symbol of Gotham City works within the confines of the universe Warner Brothers is building. They're adapting the comic book universe for film, not lifting the story straight from the page and recreating it on screen. Watchmen tried that. Did it work? Only to a point.
November 27, 2012 at 2:55AM ESTThe universes and continuity is already scrambled in the comic book world. Why create a new Bruce Wayne or reboot Batman in a Justice League film? It causes confusion. This way, the focus never gravitates to "who's the new Batman?" Or "why didn't JGL just do it?" "Where's Bale?" Nolan laid the groundwork for a Justice League inadvertently with his inclusion of his version of Robin.
Just because it sucked on the page as you say, which I could debate otherwise, doesn't mean it'll suck on film. This is a fundamentally different Robin than the four we came to know in the comics. If John "Robin" Blake is Batman in the Justice League film, I'm not going to complain that he's not Bruce. I'm going to revel in the fact that the geek inside of me is getting a freaking JUSTIC LEAGUE MOVIE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Taylor Very true, "robin" does in fact become batman when bruce wayne disappears in the comics. This story line would follow that very closely. Heck they could even do a Batman Beyond type story line as well which Bruce Wayne was no longer Batman while someone else took over the role. And Batman Beyond crossed paths with the justice league as well.
December 15, 2012 at 10:40AM ESTRandy of AFTimes
November 27, 2012 at 12:03AM EST Reply to CommentOh my.
That certainly would be a way to get a JL movie going without having to re-re-introduce a new Batman and Superman.
But it can't be possible.
This is WARNER BROTHERS-its too smooth a move for them! :-D
And I remember you vague "thoughts" on the STAR TREK reboot, oh those many moons ago, Mr. McWeeny.
Color me intrigued...
drew Oh, do you? I'm curious how many people ever noticed how spot-on that "Star Trek" report was and how early it was.
November 27, 2012 at 12:19AM ESTRandy of AFTimes I do, I do remember.
November 27, 2012 at 12:38AM ESTIt was one of the first things about the reboot that made me both hopeful and reserved at the same time. Because it was was such a easily screwed up thing, that would've killed it all
And as someone who's tried to crack a JL movie script (spec only), I very much hope that a JL film is about the heroes-NOT their alter ego/identity. I don't want to see them out of uniform AT ALL.
Now back to writing specs...
normajeanmonster I agree 110% about not wanting to see the heroes out of costume. I'm starting to tire of the whole "woe is me to have these amazing awesome powers. I must brood and sulk and be pushed to the limit to use them." template that every single supe movie seems to follow these days. I want to see badass supes being badass and loving their power, not getting all emo and douchy because they can't be normal. wah wah cry me a fucking river.
November 27, 2012 at 2:23AM EST
Here's a link to that Star Trek report from years ago for anyone that hadn't read it (I hadn't): http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33832
November 27, 2012 at 4:06PM ESTThe things Drew reported then seem so smart and interesting in hindsight. Here's hoping the same will be said about Warner Bros' decisions, too!
Monica
November 27, 2012 at 12:11AM EST Reply to CommentNoooo,please, nooo!
Monica
November 27, 2012 at 12:12AM EST Reply to CommentNooo, please, nooooo
wilfred
November 27, 2012 at 12:17AM EST Reply to Commentterrible idea. i'm kinda surprised anyone is ok with this. bruce wayne is batman. nolan already said that no other heroes could ever exist in his dark knight universe.jgl would be ok as nightwing, but not batman.
cultstatus Wayne said multiple times that Batman was a symbol. Anybody could be Batman.
November 27, 2012 at 12:25AM ESTSK CultStatus, Nolan's Bruce said that. We don't need a JLA movie to mess up the Nolan continuity.
November 27, 2012 at 1:49AM ESTTyler To get persnickety, Wayne says "Batman could be anybody", NOT "Anybody could be Batman". And there's a world of difference between those two statements. :)
November 27, 2012 at 2:17AM ESTcultstatus Leaving Blake the batcave and his tech seems like a pretty big endorsement from Bruce that he could follow in his footsteps.
November 27, 2012 at 2:52AM ESTTro There IS a way to work through this. It depends on Man Of Steel's timeline. If Nolanverse's Clark realizes his powers in later adulthood, this could all happen after TDKR, which could mesh.
November 27, 2012 at 1:54PM ESTI agree that Wayne needs to be JL's Bats. Blake could rise up as Nightwing, and Wayne take back the mantle as Batman later on, as some sort of The Dark Knight Returns deal.
Nolan has left various open-ended ideas that could very easily be molded into newer ones. It all depends on how they play out the next movies. Man Of Steel will decide whether JL roots from the trilogy.
Kyren Lee I think it would be just perfect if JGL plays batman in the movie, and its never brought up or clarified whether he's playing bruce or blake. he's simply credited as Batman
December 5, 2012 at 8:35PM ESTJoe
November 27, 2012 at 12:27AM EST Reply to CommentI think it could work, but it really depends on whether they get Superman right. JGL could handle being the new Batman for awhile although he's smallish like Keaton was in the suit. I also think if WB's checkbook is big enough & they have enough storytelling balls, they have an option of JGL Batman dying in one of the Justice League movies and bringing Bale back to put on the mask to save the day. That would be epic if they could get that to happen. The key thing is WB has to throw out Green Lantern. That movie was a catastrophe and Reynolds can't be used. Get the Flash, Wonder Woman & Green Arrow right and you've got a Justice League.
Lifestyle25 a JL movie without Green Lantern is NOT a JL movie.
November 28, 2012 at 2:52PM ESTPat
November 27, 2012 at 12:27AM EST Reply to CommentPlease, don't make him wear facial prosthetics for this film.
troy
November 27, 2012 at 12:29AM EST Reply to CommentI get people not liking the idea of a non Bruce Wayne Batman, but Blake would bring the character back to his roots of the worlds greatest detective. That is a character trait that has been pretty much ignored in films.
Tyler Yeah, but how likely is it that a JL film is going to spotlight Batman's crime solving/forensics abilities?
November 27, 2012 at 2:15AM ESTAlex L. If Blake as Batman is successful and received well in the film, it opens up the chance for a film of his own where we could get those crime solving aspects of the character. It wouldn't have to be grand in scale like Nolan's films. They could differentiate and not have to be in contention with one another.
November 27, 2012 at 3:00AM ESTIntellectual Ninja
November 27, 2012 at 12:37AM EST Reply to CommentAs long as the beautiful and powerful Zoe Saldana is Wonder Woman, I couldn't care less about anyone else.
Well... besides replacing Reynolds as Green Lantern (and yes, yes... I know he was far from the only problem... main problem was Berlanti... but he was miscast, end of story).
As long as those two things are done: Zoe Saldana as WW (who, let's be honest here, is the only real choice for a big-ish name who is beautiful, physical, and can command respect from the room) and say, Bradley Cooper as Hal (or Nathan Fillion if they want to cast for an older, seasoned Hal), then I'm all good with everything else.
If I were WB, I'd wait to see if The Lone Ranger does well. And if it does, sign Armie Hammer to be Batman (as they once had him for Miller's Justice League), but that's me.
The Flash should be straight out of CSI. His film would be a Thriller, like a toned-down Seven, but with Superheroes. I'm thinking someone like Gosling would be perfect as Barry.
As for the story, what could be better than the League versus Atlantis?
I know everyone wants White Martians so they can introduce J'onn, but I say introduce Aquaman as the badass mutha he truly is, and make him the reluctant villain, fighting for his people and his kingdom's right to survive against man's horrific treatment of the oceans and environment.
That would be perfect for getting Diana involved, because of course they know each other.
Then you have Hal, who's been in space for over 5 years patrolling the vastness of his sector, called back to Earth by the Guardians, meeting up with Supes, WW, and The Flash, but it's Batman who figures out what's up, surprising the "powers" with his usefulness, maybe shocking them with exposing their secret identities to the group using his deductive powers.
Stuff like that.
Could be cool.
Dude ... I honestly never thought WW could be cast but damnit if you're not on to something with Saldana. She is goddess-attractive and if she could bulk-up a bit (let's face it, Diana is not "Hollywood" athletic, she's Olympian athletic), I think she could really pull it off.
November 27, 2012 at 12:43AM ESTAxl What?? Saldana as Wonder Woman, really? First JGL bullshit and now this?
November 27, 2012 at 2:33AM ESTWhy not a midget or a fat dude as Flash? Might be cool.
Intellectual Ninja Really, Axl?
November 27, 2012 at 9:41AM ESTREALLY???
Name one reason why Zoe Saldana, who has beauty beyond measure and has proven over and over again that she can stand toe-to-toe with ANY man on screen, isn't the best choice in all of Hollywood to be Wonder Woman.
Give us all ONE REASON.
We live in a world in which Idris Elba is a Norse God. It's the kind of color blindness I WANT to see. Where the best choice is made, period.
Saldana is the best choice. Look at all of those other actresses out there. Name one who has the combination of beauty and physicality as Saldana does. Who you believe can be a graceful princess and an ass-kicking Amazon Warrior?
Name one.
Look Axl, I get it, to an extent. I was pissed when MCD was cast as Kingpin, or Sam Jackson as Fury. But IN is right in his/her (sorry) argument that there are very, very few women that could at all look the part of WW authentically. Maybe there are some unknowns out there that could pull it off. However, if you need star power to draw fans and acting chops considering WW's role in the League, Saldana would be an excellent choice. Is she a white Amazon? Nope, but she sure is exotic and let's face it, one of the most beautiful women acting today.
November 27, 2012 at 9:48AM ESTMichael A Seriously?
November 27, 2012 at 10:28AM ESTYou need an excuse for why Zoe Saldana shouldn't be Wonder Woman?
How about because she's 5'7" and weighs, on average, about 120 lbs?
Look, I haven't seen Colombiana, but I'm sure it's great. That has no bearing whatsoever on whether Zoe Saldana can be Wonder Woman.
Plain and simple, no amount of fancy cinematography and effects is going to make me believe that a 120 lb. human being is going to be kicking the crap out of anything. It's just ridiculous.
More than anything, Wonder Woman has to be physically menacing, able to break a man in half if she so chooses. Harping on Saldana's beauty only makes you sound like a horny teen in the throes of puberty. Wonder Woman has to be better than that.
In my opinion, anyone who directs a Wonder Woman vehicle, and doesn't consider Gina Carano for the role, is either crazy or an idiot. You want a woman that could be Wonder Woman? Watch Haywire. Then get back to me about Saldana being "the best choice".
I mean, come on.
FeloniousMax @ INTELLECTUAL NINJA
November 27, 2012 at 10:35AM ESTJessica Biel.
Intellectual Ninja Michael A... you have some serious reading comprehension issues if you categorize anything I said as the ramblings of a "horny teenager."
November 27, 2012 at 10:41AM ESTGo watch The Losers.
As for Carano... Haywire proved two things: She can kick ass, which we knew. And she can't act, which we could've guessed.
I'm sorry, but wooden acting from our leading parts went out of style when Episode III ended, or when Jumper... nevermind.
FeloniousMax... Biel is interesting, but again, Saldana can act circles around her.
And to be honest, she's a little played-out at this point. Nor do I believe she can carry her own film.
I do believe Saldana can carry her own film.
As for being "only" 120 pounds... you do know, Michael A, that Hollywood has these things called gyms and personal trainors, right?
Or what, do you think Hugh Jackman is just naturally that jacked?
What you said was foolish.
The Hitchhiking Ghost I'll give you ONE REASON: Lynn Collins. Saldana would be terrible, as was The Losers. And for you to refute people who disagree with your semi-creepy endorsement by bringing up color-blindness is in your own words, "foolish".
November 27, 2012 at 11:23AM EST
No reason to get into a angst-filled-teen, Reddit like debate about it. Perhaps there are people better than Saldana. Fine with me, go get her. I'm not sold on any one specific actress, I just think she is a very good option. And I would love to have Bale back under the cowl but he said he wasn't doing it. And given his history, I don't see him doing even for a bank-load of cash. So, considering that and the way TDKR ended, JGL is a plausible option. We need to also remember that while Nolan/Goyer dropped many easter eggs for Batman devotees (even lifting scenes directly from Miller, which rocked), he still has a mass-audience to appeal to. It's those folks who wouldn't mind a different Batman. Again, if there's a white, 6'2'' female olympic athlete who can make it look realistic when tossing bigger men around at will, rock on, get her to sign.
November 27, 2012 at 11:24AM ESTSorry Why shouldn't Salandra play Wonder Woman?
November 27, 2012 at 12:07PM ESTBecause she's black.
Sam Jackson is an iconic film actor that elevated the C-level Fury into something interesting, by simply grafting all the Sam Jackson cool over top.
And Marvel did it right - start in the comics - if the general public gets an African-American Amazon Princess in JLA, the issue will turn into "Wonder Woman is black now?" I still don't like that WW can fly, for the luvva Pete.
I get it. She's athletic, attractive and can do some decent action. There's nothing wrong with casting a Wonder Woman that "looks the part," including skin color. It's the same reason why they would never consider Maggie Smith for the role - she isn't the right look. That's not agism, that's just giving the audience what they expect. This is not the time to futz with what works. On the same note, if WW looks like she would get carded in a bar, I call shenanigans on that, too.
Intellectual Ninja Seriously, guys... what's with the reading comprehension issues?
November 27, 2012 at 12:21PM ESTI said what he said was foolish in regards to her WEIGHT. It's very clearly after the rebuttle about gyms and personal trainers.
As for being creepy? Really? I said she was beautiful. It's true. Wonder Woman needs to be exotically beautiful, and Saldana is.
I also said, more than once, that Saldana can hold her own in a room with powerful men. It's believable. She's done it onscreen, and I'm sure she can also do it real life. And it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that Wonder Woman needs to be able to do that.
I also said she can act. And she can. You can't dispute that. Biel is decent enough. Definitely better than a Jessica Alba, but I think Saldana's acting skills are superior, and I can see her, not Biel, opening her own stand-alone film.
As for color-blindness, why shouldn't that matter, or not-matter, as it were? My point was to highlight a very simple fact: The best actor for the part, period.
As for disagreeing on Saldana, that's fine.
Just come up with actual, logical reasons why she can't be Diana.
Height / Weight requirements are foolish, because our Superman is 6-1, not 6-5 as he's supposed to be.
So Diana being 5'7", or taller in heels or by using creative camera work, is no issue at all.
Neither is her weight or build, which anyone with half a brain knows can be changed in 6 months with a good trainer.
THAT is what is foolish.
Intellectual Ninja And there it is.
November 27, 2012 at 12:24PM ESTI'm surprised it took this long.
It's sorry: it's stupid, it's just so very silly.
Saldana can't be Wonder Woman because "she's black."
Sigh. I love how we exclude someone who is right from the part not because of their ability, but because of their ethnicity.
Wonder Woman is a fictional character who is an Amazon Warrior made from clay and blessed by "Gods."
But Saldana's a black woman, so of course she can't fit that description.
The Hitchhiking Ghost Lynn Collins. Beautiful, athletic, commanding presence, and absolutely without a doubt looks the part. John Carter may have been a lacking film, but she was magnetic throughout.
November 27, 2012 at 12:25PM ESTThe Hitchhiking Ghost ...and I know you're responding to the previous post, but the "black casting" rant is laughable. We're past it as evidenced by numerous white fictional characters being portrayed by African-American actors: Fury, Kingpin, Spider-Man, Harvey Dent, Heimdall... I'm sure there are more. But just for argument's sake, turn it around. Would you be ok if someone like Channing Tatum was cast as Black Panther?
November 27, 2012 at 12:31PM ESTblue_flames Loading the dice there a bit THG by picking a character with "black" in their name?
November 27, 2012 at 12:39PM ESTAnywho, "because she's black", damn! I feel like I've been timewarped back into the 70s!
The Hitchhiking Ghost Speaking of the 70's, Pam Grier in her prime would be an awesome Wonder Woman.
November 27, 2012 at 12:45PM ESTShawn I think its funny when somebody gives the Ninja shit and calling him horny just because a beautiful, actress who is 5'7 is his personal first pick for Wonder Woman. Yes Zoe can act.
November 27, 2012 at 1:01PM ESTThen the same person throws Gina Carano in the mix. First of all, Carano is short too, plus, like the Ninja said, she's a fucking horrible actress. Do you guys want WW to fail?
I suppose who arrived at Carano because of her brown hair and big tits... so who is the horny teenager now?
Biels a bad actress...I truly think Zoe is also a very good pick, who could really bring life to the character. And I'm sorry but the actress playing WW has to be beautiful. A butt-ugly WW just isn't going to work.
And honestly, I am not going to chime in on the race issue, which is really stupid, because it is sincerely stupid.
Intellectual Ninja I appreciate that, Shawn.
November 27, 2012 at 1:21PM ESTIt IS supremely stupid. When you look at all of the qualities Zoe Saldana possesses as an actress, the abilities she brings to the part, aside from her beauty, which like you said, is a requirement, it's amazing that for some people, she's a "no" because of her ethnicity.
I feel like Ben Affleck in Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back.
She a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. She was made out of clay. OUT OF CLAY!!!
And the problem people have is that a black actress can't possibly play her in a film? Really?
Stupid. And also very, very sad.
Bryce I agree with you on most of it, but I thing Nathan would be better suited for Guy Gardner wouldn't you agree?
November 27, 2012 at 2:35PM ESTmcool135 @FELONIOUSMAX It's funny actually, literally two months ago I was having a debate with another person on who would be better fit for the role of Wonder Woman, and we both came on an agreement that Jessica Biel would be the best choice for that specific role. I have no doubt that Zoe Saldana could and would be an excellent Wonder Woman, but then there is Jessica Biel who might possibly be able to play it even better. As for Shawn... I've seen Haywire, and let's just say the fighting scenes weren't all that great, I don't debate that she has the physical look to play the part, but her acting isn't up on Zoe Saldana's, and Jessica Biel quite yet.
November 27, 2012 at 3:08PM ESTShawn @MCOOL135 Haywire for me was a HUGE, HUGE dissapointment. And I wasn't impressed at all by Caranios performance. I don't want her anywhere near a superhero franchise. To me it would literally be worse than when there were rumors that Triple H of the WWE was being courted for Thor and John Cena was being courted for Captain America. I want actors who can act. Not actors who look the part.
November 27, 2012 at 3:27PM ESTI'm not a huge fan of Biel, but your right. I'd choose her over Caranio anyday.
push zoe saldana is spanish........
November 27, 2012 at 8:13PM ESTZoe Saldana's Restraining Order There are probably a thousand actresses who could play Wonder Woman---it's not exactly Chekov. Zoe Saldana isn't exactly who I'd picture--she'd be a better Catwoman in my opinion, but technically she's an attractive female in the right age range, so whatever.
November 28, 2012 at 12:40AM ESTIt's saying that she's the ONLY person who could play the part, and lying in wait like a cobra for the first person to say it's because she's black that's kind of creepy. We get it, you're color-blind. Congratulations, I guess?
Sleeper99999 I agree that Zoe Saldana's small size works against her for this role, and I also don't see a problem pointing out that her ethnicity might (MIGHT) be a problem considering the character. Wonder Woman is an Amazon and the product of the world of Greek mythology. Traditionally the Amazons of DC Comics have been depicted as being all Caucasian, so it's not out of place to suggest that it makes little sense that Greek gods would create a young girl for Hippolyta and make her look different from every other Amazon on the island.
November 28, 2012 at 7:23AM ESTIn recent years they've made the Amazons multi-racial, including lost off-shoots and so forth, so this is a fairly easy fix. Make the Amazons multi-racial right from the get-go. There, problem solved. That doesn't address Saldana's relative frailness, though. She makes for a fairly convincing Nikita-type fighter. I have trouble seeing her as an Amazon warrior.
mmcb105 Ninja - We don't always see eye to eye, but I think you are right on with Zoe Saldana. Gina Torres might also be a good choice.
November 28, 2012 at 10:42AM ESTI think Wonder Woman is a character that is ripe for a race change. It would be a refreshing change of pace.
Hey and if we get a John Stewart Green Lantern, this could make for a nicely diverse Justice League.
Honestly who really cares if she is black or not, and does it really even matter?
somebody Ninja- "Name one reason why Zoe Saldana, who has beauty beyond measure and has proven over and over again that she can stand toe-to-toe with ANY man on screen..."
November 28, 2012 at 12:00PM ESTGood lord. I didn't realize that the Universal order of talent and intelligence was:
1. ALL men
2. Sexy, beautiful women deemed worthy
3. Other women
Your comment is gross in its utter cluelessness.
Intellectual Ninja Somebody:
November 28, 2012 at 12:15PM ESTYou are some kind of an idiot if that is your interpretation of what I said, or what I mean.
You are projecting some kind of complete lunacy on my comments that say nothing as you claim to see them.
Your comment is gross in its utter clueless-ness and ridiculousness, may I add.
mmcb105 Somebody - Great beauty is actually a pretty well-known character trait for Wonder Woman, so what exactly was clueless about Ninja's comment?
November 28, 2012 at 12:25PM ESTBesides, I think its a little unfair to hold Intellectual Ninja to a higher standard than Hollywood holds itself. How many successful ugly actresses are out there? You can probably count them on one hand.
craig_rowe
November 27, 2012 at 12:40AM EST Reply to CommentI see no reason why it couldn't work together. What Nolan did was incredible, and I loved all three movies. But he doesn't own the properties, and it's clear from just the Man of Steel teaser that Snyder is going for something that "appears" a bit more grounded. Pun always intended.
I also see Blake being Batman as more than plausible. Hell, Nolan pretty much said it in the last two minutes of the film. It makes sense and given that others have taken up the mantle in a few Batman story lines, I think the true geeks, like myself, could let it slide.
You know, maybe Warners isn't planning on a JL movie after all. In truth, all they need is the Batman/Superman team up. A trilogy that shows them coming together ... slowing fracturing ... and then clashing.
Take my money.
CADENEEN If you were a "true geek" you couldn't let it slide. It doesn't matter what Nolan created with his Batman trilogy it wasn't true to the character. Shoehorning someone who isn't Bruce Wayne in to the guise of Batman for the Justice League movie would be a disservice to true fans. Also the "others" you mention who have taken up the mantle have always been short lived in the role. Bruce is Batman they are defined by each other.
November 27, 2012 at 10:03AM ESTMad Mike
November 27, 2012 at 12:43AM EST Reply to CommentAs long as Vinny Chase is Aquaman, I'm cool
FistOSalmon Nice!
November 27, 2012 at 1:07AM ESTevolution1085
November 27, 2012 at 12:43AM EST Reply to CommentThe structure of Nolan's movies really aren't conducive to fitting into a larger universe. If Gotham City was being held hostage for months by a nuclear bomb, and Clark Kent/Superman didn't lift a finger to help out, kind of makes him a dick, right? Plus, I just don't how a novice Batman played by JGL somehow belongs among this group of heroes. Wayne probably doesn't belong there either, but he's still a genius/the world's greatest detective... what is a street cop bringing to the table as a part of the justice league? It took 2 completely different iterations of the Hulk before Marvel found one that could work in the avengers, no need to shoehorn in a continuity that obviously wasn't built to have metahumans or superpowered individuals in it.
cultstatus Chronologically TDKR happened before Clark became Superman?
November 27, 2012 at 12:51AM ESTevolution1085 The Nolans (and Goyer, who doesn't get nearly as much credit as he deserves) go out of their way establishing the rules of their universe. No supernaturalness to Ras a Ghul, the Joker's hinjinks aren't nearly as psychotic as they could be (laughing gas, crazy bombs etc), no artificial enhancements for Bane, and probably most importantly, the quality of Batman's tech is pretty mediocre (his best weapon is an EMP gun?), all essentially to establish a universe where Batman could conceivably exist in "real life". Now the rules of that universe are supposed to incorporate aliens, demigods, mermen, and other super powered beings while being a novice superhero with nowhere near the intellect, resources, or training that Bruce Wayne had at his disposal during his run? All their going to be doing is watering down Nolan's trilogy to try and get some of the gravitas (and creative kudos) he had while he was at the helm.
November 27, 2012 at 1:14AM ESTMulderism Exactly. Once you introduce Superman into the Nolanverse Batman is irrelevant.
November 27, 2012 at 2:04PM EST34PJM43 Nolan's trilogy was already watered down. And for no reason, seeing as how "Rises" is the least "realistic" of the franchise.
November 27, 2012 at 3:01PM ESTAlex
November 27, 2012 at 12:50AM EST Reply to CommentPlease no. How could he(John Blake) be Batman without any training. It's not that easy, people. He'd die on his second day fighting crime. Also, he doesn't have the resources or the knowledge.
And he doesn't look like Bruce, if that'd be the case.
Rachel
November 27, 2012 at 12:53AM EST Reply to CommentThe problem is that JGL/Blake isn't believable as Batman. He would be killed/hurt. Bale/Wayne had years of ninja training by Neelson. Cannot beat that as a beat cop
Xen
November 27, 2012 at 1:05AM EST Reply to CommentPlease NO !!!!!! Keep Christopher Nolan's universe by itself. No more.
Don't fuck up Nolan's universe by crossing over with anything. Just make their own Batman, Superman, etc. for their Justice League Universe. I don't even like the idea of a Justice League movie. It just screams desperation. Get Joseph Gordon Levitt as the new Joker or the new Riddler. Please don't fuck with Nolan's Batman trilogy.
I don't even like the idea of Zack Snyder's Man Of Steel being made into a Justice League universe. Just make your own Justice League from scratch. Leave the existing universi alone.
FistOSalmon
November 27, 2012 at 1:14AM EST Reply to CommentI'd like him a lot for it but he's just too small. He's going to be standing next to Superman so they can't cast asmaller actors around him or stick him on apple boxes. It works well as an idea since you don't need a stand alone film to get him started and he walks in with the less moody Batman a JL movie would probably need. Whoever suggested Zoe Saldana as WW though is genius and they can put her in heels.
LizT Henry Cavill is only 6'1" and he's presumably going to be Superman in Justice League, too, or this whole rumor is useless. So actually JGL is probably about the right height to make him a little smaller than Superman, but with the added bulk of whatever muscle he can put on (plus the suit itself).
November 27, 2012 at 3:56AM ESTFistOSalmon Really? In my head Batman and Superman are roughly the same height/size. I was a comic peruser at best growing up so I'll defer to you. I do like that the Blake character as an alternative to another growling brooder like Bale's Wayne. JGL is pretty slight so you'd have to keep him in the suit the whole movie, you can only bulk up so far before you start not looking proportional and, ironically, shorter. I'm not really sold on it but it's not like I'm making a vow to never see a JGL Justice League movie and going on about the rape of my childhood. I'll see it regardless of the casting, but I always think it's best to cast unknowns for iconic characters so there's very few "star" choices you could make I'd get all the way behind.
November 27, 2012 at 6:08AM ESTExcept for Zaldana for Wonder Woman and I"ll freely admit I just think she's super-hot and will go see anything she's wearing a tight suit in. I'd get behind making her Leia in the new Star Wars movie if they put her in the slave outfit.
SK
November 27, 2012 at 1:15AM EST Reply to CommentAll right. This doesn't even plausibly work; WB confirmed MONTHS ago that the JLA films would be standalone.
John Blake was an original character (derived from Robins) for TDKR and ONLY for TDKR. Moreover he just doesn't work in a classic JLA story. A guy named Robin can't be Robin; that's like making Bruce Wayne's alter go "Bruce," not "Batman."
Nolan's movies are standalone. Putting them with the JLA would ruin both the comic history of the Justice League and DC's continuity (disregarding the new 52, for people who know what that is), as well as the structure of the Nolan films.
I'd like your sources, hitflix.
Titus Finally someone with some sense, great post
November 27, 2012 at 1:23AM ESTleemats I agree that a guy named Robin can't be Robin, but I think the idea is that John "Robin" Blake would either become Nightwing or step into the Batman role.
November 27, 2012 at 3:44PM ESTJeff Mclachlan I think WB is having a lot of different meetings and discussing a lot of different options. I don't doubt that this idea has been tossed around. But all of these decisions are premature until they find a director. Unless they have and just haven't announced it.
November 28, 2012 at 12:17PM ESTIf I was directing a movie with Batman in it, I don't think I'd be interested in dealing with Christopher Nolan's baqgage, and I bet anybody who's actually up for the gig would feel the same way.
leemats
November 27, 2012 at 1:29AM EST Reply to CommentIt would seem too similar to Iron Man if JGL and the other actor appeared at the end of the MOS credits. Hopefully if they do appear in MOS, it's woven into the narrative of the film. Maybe Blake and Alfred are bystanders to one of the big fights, or witness it on TV. If it were up to me, I'd have JGL appear in a Nightwing movie, and at the end he'd decide he needs to take on the Batman identity, and then appears as Batman for the first time in the Justice League film.
Matthew
November 27, 2012 at 1:39AM EST Reply to CommentI'm hoping that while they will have JGL as Batman, they will not have him as John Blake. They just let the Nolan films end at the Nolan films. And just make it another universe and only retain JGL as an actor and not a character. Having the first ever Justice League movie have a Batman that isn't Bruce Wayne is bad, having the first Justice League movie have a Batman that isn't Bruce Wayne or even a DC Comic Character is even worse.
Plus like others have said you can't just combine the Nolanverse with other DC characters. Superhumans were not supposed to be in the Nolanverse, and plus that means Two-Face/Bane/Joker can never even appear in a JL movie. Since Two-Face and Bane are dead, and people will be pissed if anyone else other than Heath Ledger plays the Nolan Joker.
At least I will always have the Justice League show to look back on. That was JL done completely right!
Sleeper99999 Keep JGL but have him actually playing Bruce Wayne now? How confusing would that be? What's the point?
November 28, 2012 at 7:26AM ESTMatthew The point would be to keep Nolan's movies in their own continuity and to actually have Bruce Wayne be in the JL movie. The movie will sell itself on name alone, you don't need it to be connected to Nolan's movies at all. How you could ever have a JL movie without Bruce is just beyond me.
November 28, 2012 at 5:15PM ESTDean KIsh
November 27, 2012 at 1:50AM EST Reply to CommentFascinating or a train-wreck... there will be no gray area here... Or is this gonna be a waste of teaser like Green Lantern's Yellow Sinestro scene
ShawnH
November 27, 2012 at 1:50AM EST Reply to CommentThe only reason why The Avengers worked is because we bought into the characters separately first. That all started with the great performance of Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man. The absolute ONLY way JL works is if Bale reprises Batman again. Those 3 movies were fantastic and he did a great job as Batman. We, the public, bought in to Bale and that role the same way we bought into RDJ as Iron Man. Having Bale as the Dark Knight is the only way to make JL credible and have the same success as The Avengers. JL would be a bust any other way.
Antz
November 27, 2012 at 1:59AM EST Reply to CommentNo for him as Batman, just plain wrong to not have Bruce Wayne in the first JL movie.
But a big yes for him as one of the others. Flash? Martian Manhunter?
drew
November 27, 2012 at 2:02AM EST Reply to CommentAll I'm going to add at this point is that some of you seem awfully hung up on some "rules" that are far from written in stone. I think you'll torture yourselves far less in the next few years if you stop treating each and every comment made by anyone about the so-called "Nolan-verse" as actual scientific fact.
Things change. Deals evolve. Something that was true six months ago may not be true now.
Wait and see.
eye Exactly. Sometimes when things are stated by someone or even "confirmed" they are subject to change because people tend to say things based on what they truly believe, feel, or know, but them circumstances change, minds change, and so on. That doesn't even just refer to things like movies.
November 27, 2012 at 2:40AM ESTI guess we will find out how that applies to this in the not too distant future.
The Hitchhiking Ghost I'm going to have to check with Nolan about this.
November 27, 2012 at 11:26AM ESTMulderism Drew, this just goes to show how attached people are to the Nolan films and don't want to see them diminished in a rush to cash in on the Avengers model. That's certainly the way I feel but I doubt I'm going to be consulted by WB for advice.
November 27, 2012 at 5:50PM ESTJudging by the posts from this and the Superman article it seems there is a lot of people against this idea. I don't recall seeing anyone complaining about when the Avengers film was announced.
Sleeper99999 They're not following the AVENGERS model, they're doing it backwards, throwing the team movie out there without introducing all of the members first. It's going to be a huge mess.
November 28, 2012 at 7:28AM ESTTyler
November 27, 2012 at 2:07AM EST Reply to CommentGod, why does the JL news just feel worse and worse with every passing day?
I LOVED TDKR. Favorite Batman film of all time. I loved JGL as Blake/Robin, and the idea of him becoming the new Batman is a really neat way to end the series.
But "idea" is the key word here, because I don't really have any desire to SEE Blake as Batman. The beauty of TDKR's ending was that it was still about Bruce Wayne, the shadow he'd cast, the inspiration he'd left...let us fill in the rest ourselves.
And the big thing here for me is, if you're going to do a JL movie, then why the heck have Batman be somebody other than Bruce Wayne?! Bruce Wayne. Is. Batman. And I say this with no disrespect* to Dick Grayson or Jean-Paul Valley or John Blake, but when they're in the suit, it's "Dick Grayson AS Batman". It's John Blake AS Batman. It's not BATMAN.
I mean, who knows, maybe a resucitated Stanley Kubrick is directing JL from the greatest script everyone's ever read, and this will all turn out brilliantly. But right now, it sounds extremely poorly thought out. I'm far from an avid admirer of the Marvel Studios films, but at least those guys have a clear gameplan. DC/WB just seems to be a situation where the blind are leading the blind.
*Because I'm sure fictional characters would be offended by a hitflix comment.
Playhouse
November 27, 2012 at 2:08AM EST Reply to CommentI really liked John Blake in TDKR and actually got a kick with his set-up and where they left the character at the end of the film. I wouldn't even mind seeing Blake's story continue in some form ... other than a live-action film. A comic, an animated film, a novel. All would be great choices to carry on the world Nolan created. But there's something really special about capping the live-action aspect where it was and moving on to something else.
By bringing in JGL as a Blake Batman (who, unfortunately, would be kind of small in the part) or by trying to remodel him as the new Bruce Wayne you lug along too much "baggage" in addition to any cachet it might have. If it is the Blake Batman, everyone will spend the movie wondering where Bruce Wayne is and just how they could bring Christian Bale back. Plus, trying to reconcile the Nolan-verse with the newly created DCMU causes a lot of creative issues that would seem less than appealing for any team looking to build something from the ground up. The other end, with JGL becoming a new Bruce Wayne, would sadly confuse audiences, these same people who are now pushing the "Code Name" theory behind the changes in actors in the James Bond franchise to make sense of the loose continuity of all the films.
This just has more downside than upside to it.
Falconsclaw
November 27, 2012 at 2:29AM EST Reply to CommentThe thing that a Justice League film has over the Avengers was that the normal movie-going fans have already been exposed to the Justice League characters in some form or fashion. Whether it was through the Super-Friends, the Batman animated series, the Justice League animated series, ot even Robot Chicken, most people know who the core members of the JL are and what they can do. Origin films could serve as an afterthought in this case whereas with the Avengers, that wasn't so much the case. Most people didn't have much background on Iron-man or Thor prior to their films and then there were those people who couldn't understand why Spider-man or Wolverine weren't in the Avengers. But, that said, trying to pull the whole thing together in a "Nolanverse" type film would, IMO, put restrictions on the more fantastic backgrounds of the JL characters. I mean, let's face it, Nolan went to great lengths to show that a Batman could exist in the real world, a world that doesn't rely on magic or space-faring crime fighters to get the job done. At this point, I can't say I'm too excited with the idea of putting Amazons or the Guardians in that world; however, I just love the idea that my childhood heroes are all quickly becoming the modern-day legends they should be. Someone else said this already, but I have to agree, color me intrigued.
34PJM43
November 27, 2012 at 3:28AM EST Reply to CommentThis could not be worse news.
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