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'Fringe' Recap - 'This Boy Must Live'

The table is set for the series finale.

Peter and Walter in this week's "Fringe".

Peter and Walter in this week's "Fringe".

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If one cannot remember a life lived, does that life matter at all?
 
That’s not merely a fundamental philosophical problem that has haunted humanity for thousands of years. It’s also the core question for the last few seasons of “Fringe”. The schism that formed in the aftermath of Peter stepping into the Doomsday Device cleaved fandom in two. Some argued that the characters that developed in the new reality were closely enough aligned with the original iterations that the discrepancies actually gave depth to the show’s analysis of human behavior. Others felt their connections to those onscreen severed, with all new work needed to find a way to emotionally bond with these new versions. While I fall on the side of the latter group, neither side is “right” or “wrong”. There are never such clearly shaded sides when it comes to questions such as the ones that “Fringe”, at its best, puts forth.
 
My ultimate feelings about “The Boy Must Live” will ultimately hinge on the overall outcome of the series, which will unfold in back-to-back episodes next Friday. (FOX has championed this show longer than it had any realistic right to do so, but also seems anxious to have this end and draw more eyeballs with another program.) Those feelings are tied up intimately with the question raised at the outset of this review. If, as posited tonight, this season-long plan to defeat The Observers means eradicating them from existence itself, would that constitute a satisfactory end for the show? If Walter sacrifices himself, as hinted at tonight, and the invasion never happens, and no one recalls the dystopian future because it never happens, does that give proper resolution to those remaining? In other words: if you don't remember what you did to earn the rewards you receive, are those rewards meaningful?
 
Let’s reframe this whole debate in another way, via an image that has come to symbolize hope in the “Fringe”: the white tulip. Donald/September brings it up tonight to help explain how Walter once steeled himself for self-sacrifice. After all, Walter believes that God sent him that symbol once upon a time as a sign that He had forgiven Walter for the sin of taking Peter from the other timeline. But we, the audience, know that the tulip was sent by time-travelling scientist Alistair Peck. Donald/September took the white tulip because he knew its importance…but also seems to hide its true origins in order to properly motivate Walter. Now, that act of lying to Walter is suspect. However, if that lie helps prevent a future in which humanity systematically removes the parts of its brain that make it human in the first place, is that lie justifiable?
 
The fact that Walter can even remember this at all is one of the more remarkable aspects of the show: until tonight, Walter’s memories were still in the post-Doomsday Device timeline. But thanks to Michael’s touch last week, everything from the first three seasons came flooding through. The result? Walter found himself filled with more joy than he thought possible, as he recounted key moments between himself and Peter in that timeline. The euphoria felt onscreen between those two characters matched that of many watching at home, undoubtedly. And that euphoria only seemed to highlight the disconnect felt at the start of the fourth season. If you liked the choice made at that point in the show’s run, then Walter’s remembrance felt like well-earned catharsis. If you didn’t like it, then Walter’s eureka moment only demonstrated what has largely been missing over the last 30+ episodes.
 
In either case, a hallmark of “Fringe” throughout the ages is that emotions always conquer intellect. The show’s “A LOVE WIZARD DID IT” explanation for Peter’s return to reality solidified that ethos, but it’s all over the place if you want to look for it. Learning that September learned about paternal affection through observing Walter was a fairly obvious assumption to make in light of the last episode, but it was a striking moment all the same to see on screen. Similarly, seeing an Observer unwittingly tap along to a jazz tune in Donald’s apartment was a wonderfully odd way to show how humanity has a way of “infecting” The Observers. Even Windmark, who is basically Agent Smith from “The Matrix” at this point, feels disturbed at the emotion of “anger” that the insurgents have planted inside of him. (Watching an Observer grow inside a liquid-filled tube only confirmed the association with that sci-fi franchise.)
 
So having that emotional “bleedthrough” means that any potential reboot of reality that might ensue from sending Michael to 2167 and convince the scientist that first removed jealousy from the human brain in order to increase intelligence that both can coexist harmoniously isn’t necessarily a clean reality wipe. (Also? Look at that sentence! I need an aspirin.) But it does make one question the morality of one Olivia Dunham, who is near giddy at the prospect of getting Etta back should the Walter/Donald plan succeed. Let’s put aside for a moment the logistics of what a “no Observer” reality would entail. (A colleague of mine pointed out this probably means Over Here Peter dies, but Over There Peter lives since Walternate doesn’t get distracted by September while making the serum. But then Over There Peter never meets Over Here Olivia, which means…no Etta. But maybe Henry. Again, aspirin, please.) Let’s ask a basic, but incredibly difficult, question: Olivia’s desire to have her child back makes her a well-intentioned mother, but does it make her a morally upstanding human being?
 
Since there was a lot of confusion over my questioning the validity of Peter and Olivia breaking up over the loss of Etta in this season’s premiere, let me be clear: I don’t question for a second the desire for any parent who has lost their child to have them back. It’s a fundamental wish that’s ingrained in everyone’s DNA, and extends not only to children but parents, other relatives, and friends as well. But what I am asking here is what I suspect the show is also asking right now: How often to do good intentions often stand in the way of the greater good? We sympathize with Olivia’s position not only because it’s relatable, but also because we’ve spent five seasons with this character and have been positioned/conditioned to want what’s best for her. But in television, we often have our sympathies determined by whom the show decides to focus on. If “Fringe” were about Alistair Peck, would we feel differently about his journey? If it were about the couple in Season 4’s “And Those We’ve Left Behind,” wouldn’t we semi-loathe Fringe Division for stopping Raymond Green from spending time with his wife Kate? Moral questions become infinitely more complex when applied not to an individual, but society as a whole.
 
The fact that “The Boy Must Live” has me contemplating these types of questions means the episode is a success. I’d rather get interesting questions than hard-fast answers. Because let’s be honest: did the exposition dump about 2609 Earth, and the scientific advancements in 2167 that led to it, add anything to your overall understanding of the show? Sure, it filled in tiny bits of trivia, but I’m not sure it did anything to fundamentally change our understanding of the show’s meaning. It helped change our understanding of the show’s story, but all that information means is that we can’t fill in the gaps ourselves. Anytime the episode felt like an examination of how humanity’s best (and worst) parts will always endure worked fantastically. Anytime the episode felt like Michael Cerveris reading from the “Origins of the Observers” Wikipedia page, it fell flat.
 
But ultimately, as stated before, the success of this episode won’t be determined until the finale, at which point people can decide for themselves if the show as a whole made the right choices along the way. To bring things full circle: let’s imagine for a moment that the final scene of “Fringe” is young Etta, running into the arms of Peter and Olivia as they sit on a blanket in Central Park. They are a blissful family, and a family blissfully unaware of the pain and suffering that has unfolded for them over the past five seasons of the show and the past decades of their lives. But they are also blissfully unaware of the time spent with each other, the moments they laughed, loved, and found comfort in each other. They are also blissfully unaware of an odd, irascible, sweets-loving scientist who both caused all of the aforementioned moments but also endangered reality as we knew it in the process. Who needs resolution here: the characters, the audience, or both?
 
I think the answer to that is a matter of personal taste. But also defines how such a moment might play out, should it play out. (Nothing I listed above is a spoiler. But many surmised the final shot of “Lost” before it aired, even if they didn’t have any way of truly knowing it. Both guesses “feel” equally right, though.) On the one hand, the scenario above could represent the sum total of all actions that happened before it, which means there’s absolute narrative weight behind yet another reality reboot. On the other hand, Walter’s sudden memory gain tonight highlights just how much emotional weight is behind remembering the sum total of one’s life. Does meaning lie in the actions one takes? The memory of those actions? A mixture? Those are questions I look forward to “Fringe” engaging with in the final two hours. Answering those will say more about the show than anything else in cementing its legacy in television history.
 
What did you think about tonight’s episode? Are you excited for the finale, or sad about the show’s imminent ending? Does the prospect of seeing Etta again excite you, or worry you? Sound off below!

 

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  • Lostmesaiconv3_talkback_profile

    mesa

    I am so excited for the finale because of the promo, but I don't want to get ahead of myself. When Walter remembered the past from the original timeline, I was satisfied. And as for your final question, I think a total reset as long as our heroes remember what originally transpired would be acceptable. Coincidentally, that is what Lost did with it's flash-sideways in that finale.

    January 11, 2013 at 11:13PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Morals Olivia gets the part again to be the stupid wife, that is what well trained FBI Fringe agent, leading even, with her past is,
      little woman that do not think according to Wyman.

      But Male critic says that Olivia has no morals in wanting a reset, so that they could have Etta back (not just Olivia)

      The same Male critic who sees Walter as the poor guy that did everything for the love of his child, or:
      -stealing another child when his own dies, to prove a point that he has a cure.
      with that killd millions of people, who cares, as long as the Bishops get what they want and need.

      Walter that for fun tortured children like Olivia, 3 years old, coming from an abusive home (like the other children ),
      already being battered by life,
      but Walter loved using Olivia as a needle-cussion, giving her some extra nightmares, fears and damage her for life.

      Where are the Morals there? Fringe never did a thing with that part of Walter ,

      We saw the cortexiphan children only when needed for Walters story,
      they came on, life ruined, they had to feel sorry for Walter, they died.

      Olivia in total of 5 seasons had 2 scenes to confront Walter:
      S1. Walter cries, Olivia is the bad one
      S2. Walter ignores.

      Morals on Fringe never come up when it comes to Walter and Bell,
      or Peter

      but Olivia is now morally in question?

      Well we can be certain that Olivia has to die, only for that reason.
      The promo wants us to believe that the poor Bishops will be sacrificing themselves,
      but I am certain that Walter will kill Olivia, this time with his cortexiphan.

      BTW Wyman is a classic Male Chauvenistic Pig, no female Observers is because:
      -science has no need for women (so how did they get the eggs?)
      -women are weak, aka have emotions ( Wyman would fit in nicely about an age ago where nearly every woman was being dubbed hysterical)

      -men are superior, see how the Bishops can do and be everything, especially Peter, best shooter in the universe, no trianing,
      BTW why are the shooting close-ups always on Peter?
      Same reason that the directors are being asked to get a lot of shots of Olivias butt?

      January 12, 2013 at 5:15PM EST
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    Anne Funke

    JJ did it with Lost too. See Stephen King's Dark Tower. The story is in the journey, not the ending.

    January 12, 2013 at 12:09AM EST Reply to Comment
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      carpediva Coincidentally that's exactly what showrunners always say when they botch the ending.

      January 12, 2013 at 8:38AM EST
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      journey To Annie Funke:

      Fringes journey had a totally different roadmap,
      they not only lost the road,
      they pretend most never existed , or they remove the roadsigns
      or let them point to another direction.

      So you follow the route Boston -New York, only midway the signs have changed,

      That is not a joutney or all teh other blah blah Wyman talks, that is cheating, ridiculing the viewer and if you do that with the tag LoveLetter to the fans you can expect a lot of angry fans.

      On top Wyman inly loves 2 characters Walter and Peter and his bald men
      , he hates Olivia (and Astrid and Nina)
      that should never be visible for a viewer.

      January 15, 2013 at 12:55AM EST
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    Ken from Chicago

    Olivia can NOT be that stupid.

    She cannot consider that altering the timeline restores Etta WITHOUT even considering the possibility it could wipe out Peter. Olivia cannot be that stupid.

    Ryan, yeah about the exposition infodump, "midichlorians".

    Instead I prefer the original Star Wars trilogy explanation that Life creates the Force and said Force surrounds and binds all things. Simple, elegant, and no asinine midichlorians.

    For Fringe, in the future, a scientist devises a way to boost intelligence by overriding the parts of the brain that generates jealousy, essentially sacrificing jealous for intelligence. Further benefits were gained by overriding part of the brain for other negative emotions, pride, phobias, arrogance, anger, but it went on to wipe out joy, kindness, curiosity and finally love. The boy can show that sacrifice need not happen, that humanity can have a different future. We need to send the boy back to the date when scientists first were about to sacrifice emotions for intelligence, February 20, 2167 or whatever the date was.

    Btw, will NO ONE bother to ask where are the FEMALE observers at?! Donald learns compassion from fathers and sons?! What about mothers and sons? fathers and daughters? mothers and daughters?

    And what of observers of color? Why are they all chalk white? why not jet black, chocolate brown, crimson red, canary yellow, aqua blue, grass green, royal purple?

    So we have time to show Kid Observer play music and folks to do all kinds of walking and walking and driving and driving, but again, Astrid is treated like an add-on. Does she have feelings? family? friends--beyond the Bishop brood?

    Over Somewhere:

    "Hey, Astrid, how are you dealing with all of this?"

    "I'm dealing. I was finally able to track down my parents' graves. I went to see them yesterday--perhaps for a final time if what Walter says about the timeline being reset comes true. Oh, it's time for me to check on Walter in the isolation tank, Olivia."

    "Relax, Astrid, I'll check on him for you. We don't want him to get all pruney. Knock, knock, Walt-whoa."

    -- Ken from Chicago

    January 12, 2013 at 1:03AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Sandy But it wouldn't wipe out Peter. Walternate wouldn't have been distracted by September and he would have cured Peter and Walter wouldn't have had to cross over.

      January 12, 2013 at 1:40AM EST
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      Mike I think he meant it would wipe Peter out of the blue verse. It would mean wiping his presence and history and the chance to meet Olivia.

      January 12, 2013 at 2:02AM EST
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      Cal Sandy - It would wipe him out of her universe, which would reduce Olivia's chances of raising Etta pretty remote.

      January 12, 2013 at 2:04AM EST
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      Thom Apparently yes, she can be that stupid.

      January 12, 2013 at 4:45AM EST
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      Ken from Chicago Yes, my bad. I phrased that poorly. Peter would be wipe out Over Here because Walter would not have a reason to cross Over There.

      Unless ...

      ... the timeline is altered so that Observers' LACK of jumping thru space and time means the boundaries between universes is less "porous". Thus Walter's dimensional viewer requires ever so much more energy to break thru Over There in order to sneak a peek. That extra bit of energy might be seen momentarily as a flash of light, a spark, etc., Over There, distracting Walternate from seeing the cure for his Peter and ... we're off to the races again.

      Oh and yes, I wholeheartedly agree with Ryan that resetting the timeline to the Brightest Timeline, no Observers, Olivia & Peter & Etta live happily ever after, so do Broyles & Nina and Walter & Astrid (come on, shirley you saw that coming, why else do you think Astrid has been so loyal for so long without once complaining, it's WUV, they're obviously wuvbirds) IF they remember. The Brightest Timeline has them remembering what was sacrificed.

      How? Let's let the Bishops explain:

      Walter: "You see being at the quantum epiccenter of the timeline change caused a multipoint duality, within a radius of a nominal multiplier of Planck's Constant-"

      Peter: "What Walter means is we're in the eye of the storm. It's like being at either the North pole or the South pole, where all the timezones converge so that we recall the events from all the timelines."

      Walter: "Actually, Peter, that metaphor doesn't take into account the Einstein-Rosen wormhole effect..."

      Olivia: "Thanks, Peter, thanks Walt-er... thanks, Dad. 'Eye of the storm' it is."

      Walter: "Oh, Olivia called me 'Dad'. Isn't it wonderful, Sweetheart?"

      Astrid: "Yes, Sweetums. And, Liv, don't even think about calling me 'Mom'."

      January 12, 2013 at 4:57AM EST
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      Jemma Ken from Chicago that was excellent.

      January 12, 2013 at 6:28AM EST
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      Ruxandra But it wouldn't really wipe out Peter. In this timeline, the amber one, Peter died in the lake (the consequence of the machine) and he reapeared out of thin air! So he's really safe! Because he doesn't really exist :P

      January 13, 2013 at 8:44AM EST
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    Sandy

    I don't get your point about Olivia's desire for the plan to succeed and getting Etta back having to do with a moral choice.

    January 12, 2013 at 3:49AM EST Reply to Comment
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    reset

    So you are judging Olivia on morals, but Walter is the victim?

    Olivia was tested on, abused by and damaged by Walter, started when she was 3 years old.
    Not much was done with that storyline, just a few scenes, but you should know that.

    So Olivia crossed over as a 3 year old, Jacksonville S2, and saw the Otherside,
    had nothing to do with Peter or Observers etc,
    just
    Bell and Walter having fun torturing a 3 year old girl.

    And thanks to Noble only wanting to see Walter as the poor Walter that did everything for the love of his child, over and over, we never got to see the nasty side of Walter.
    Walter has never cared about other people, and everyone and everything was used for his needs and his wants,
    he used children as labrats,

    But Olivia is being judged.

    Olivia was always great with kids, but for S5 sake no longer, gone the connection with the child observer, and she was a cold mother with Etta, joke.
    And now she is the bad person for wanting Etta back.

    But Walter stealing Peter , aka love for child makes him the loving dad.
    Wyman really hates Olivia.

    I am sick and tired of the over the top Walter and Peter scenes, 99999 times and more,
    what a waste.
    Walter and his brains was what Nina was wasted on, instead of some decent scenes for Olivia with Nina.

    Olivia: needed by Bell and Walter to save the worlds, Olivia with special empathy, Olivia the chosen One, Hero, savior.
    all gone gone gone for entire season 5,

    and all of the sudden she is allowed to do something, but not out of her won power, nope, in episode 5.12

    The promo is just a red herring, we have to believe that the Bishops are going to sactifice themselves, they will not, to egotistical and egocentric.

    Olivia will be the one dying, probably from that nice shot cortexiphan,
    not very healthy in the back of the neck at that age,
    and we will get a lot of whining Bishops scenes.
    And then reset, aka White Tulip.
    Olivia and Peter in the parc etc.

    The running joke on twitter was , when is Olivia going to get a line.

    So Anna Torv was there in every scene , had to do all her beautiful acting all non-verbal.
    that makes a great actor.

    If Wyman would have done this to Jackson and Noble tvmedia woudl be outraged, and Jackson and Noble all over the media complaining.
    But Anna Torv shows what true class is, and Wyman should be deeply ashamed of himself.

    January 12, 2013 at 3:53AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Mulderism Creepy Anna Torv post - check.

      January 12, 2013 at 4:18AM EST
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      Christie Reply to comment...Couldn't agree more. Have missed Olivia. I hope she comes back in the final two hours. Don't get me wrong. I love Peter & Walter but Olivia led Fringe in the first 3 seasons. Anna Torv deserves better.

      January 12, 2013 at 6:08PM EST
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    Thom

    Walter remembering the original timeline would have been meaningful last season, but 3 episodes before the end? Too little, too late.

    The rest of the episode was too slow, there wasn't enough action to balance the exposition overload. It was setting up the finale, I understand that, but I expected more from this season, which has been filler and slow-paced for the most part, something Joel Wyman promised wouldn't happen this season.

    The plan for Michael is one of the least exciting things this show has ever done. I hope Fringe has something else up its sleeve for the finale.

    January 12, 2013 at 4:58AM EST Reply to Comment
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    garyc

    Agree the way Michael is supposed to be used seems underwhelming and also would appear to prevent this universes Peter and Olivia from meeting. Also would remove emotional satisfaction of revenge killing of Windmark, as he simply ceases to exist. Doesn't seem to make for an emotionally fulfilling season finale, let alone series finale.

    Guessing they will go in a different direction.

    January 12, 2013 at 9:17AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Chloe You guys are overthinking it. Walter will sacrifice himself, but it's old news. Polivia is still going to stay together. Georgina Haig already hinted that adult Etta won't be back, so if Etta exists again it will be as a child.

      January 12, 2013 at 11:18AM EST
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    Sareeta

    What an emotional episode. I'm now used to the pacing of this season, so I was able to just sit back and really enjoy the characters. I really liked that moment between Walter and Peter and also between Donald and Walter.

    As a fan of both Lost's and BSG's endings, I am looking forward to the ending for Fringe, but I'll definitely be sad to see it go. In the case of Lost, I prefer the ending to the rest of the episodes of season 6. For BSG, it was a wild ending that I didn't see coming and had beautiful character moments.

    January 12, 2013 at 11:48AM EST Reply to Comment
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      mesa I am also a fan of both show's finales. Lost stretched out its final season too thin, but had a masterpiece finale. BSG had an amazing final season and finale (although I didn't like the technology decision). I've been extremely disappointed by this season of Fringe, but I'm hoping the finale will be great. What frightens me is the fact that Wyman is not only writing, but directing as well. Cue the cheese.

      January 12, 2013 at 10:08PM EST
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    CB

    I actually shouted "Yes!" when I saw the promos for next week. Definitely looking forward to the finale!

    My hope for the end of "Fringe" is that something unexpected happens, and we don't get the ending that our team is currently planning (i.e., prevent the Observers from ever existing and thus eradicate the invasion timeline). I don't think that would be a satisfying ending because it would mean that all of Season 5 (and possibly even more of the show) was ultimately meaningless. In my opinion, the last thing this show needs is another "reset"!

    Also, I think that Peter should have to face some sort of test similar to the one that Walter faced back in 1985. An overarching theme of the show has been, "Be a better man than you father," but lately the focus has all been on this external plot to defeat the Observers. I'd much rather have a character-driven finale that actually resolves that central theme of the show.

    As for this episode, I really loved the Observers' search through September's apartment. The shot of Windmark standing there and listening to the radio with a blank expression was surprisingly touching.

    January 12, 2013 at 1:50PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Elliot Lake

    Somebody should have explained to Wyman the difference between building on past seasons and making them irrelevant. He's dismissed Peter's being important (and by Jove that IS what September meant back then, it's even in the lab notes)--Joel's Oedipal need to undo the first two years is odder and odder. September could have said "Both" and moved on, but like the white tulip thing, Wyman needs to make Fringe about Wyman's writing.

    I am not really interested in September/Donald being the Deus ex machina, either. So Septy learns about love from Walter's love for Peter and thus decides to save his son (GOOD) while for 5 years we've been told Walter's saving Peter was Original Sin (BAD) . Then AWWW the Love Wizard made Walter Remember!! And now it requires erasing Walter! Psych!

    Olivia who left Peter over HIS wanting to stop at nothing to get Etta back, now is fine sacrificing September's son to have a shot at getting Etta back---as though nothing else will change, and that *someone* will save Peter and *somehow* they will find each other. I was expecting Olivia to have qualms about sacrificing someone else's child, but no.

    It's even worse storytelling than A Short Story About Love, and that's saying something.

    No wonder Josh says he thinks that Fringe fans should continue on the story themselves, to make the ending they think it should have.

    January 12, 2013 at 5:59PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Christie

    Just wanted to say thank you Ryan McGee for your very inciteful review.

    January 12, 2013 at 6:15PM EST Reply to Comment
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    cooper

    Olivia, the lead character on the show- and yes crazy, over zealous bishop boys fans, she is the lead character whether you lot like it or not- has had basically no arc this season. After episode 6, the show turned into the Walter Bishop exposition on top of exposition journey. Tedious x 1000

    January 12, 2013 at 8:28PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Christie Reply to comment...I don't know why they have Olivia on the back burner like this. She was dominant for the first 3 seasons. It's hard watching Anna Torv being so passive. This episode she has so few lines.

      January 13, 2013 at 6:30AM EST
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    James

    Donald and Walters plan does not matter. Micheal has his own. That is why he stepped from the train. Now Olivia must decide to pull a Walter to get her daughter back or ?

    January 12, 2013 at 8:36PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Felixdacat

    My feelings for Fringe over the years at worst were “interesting and thought provoking” to unabashed love (although my affections never reached the status of “Lost” or “Firefly”). Truthfully, my biggest complaint was that Mr. 150+ IQ and Ms. FBI agent did not figure out that Charlie was taken over by a shape shifter.
    So there I was sitting down to the next to last (kinda) episode of Fringe with a GLARING gaff in the first few minutes. Ok, I know…picky, picky, picky but…
    The friggin Empire state building is north of the Williamsburg bridge. Brooklyn is east of Manhattan. The view from Donald’s apartment is IMPOSSIBLE. Someone in production got a reversed image somehow, and nobody spoke up. Just damn!
    Ok, and then…Observers are grown in a test tube, they have no emotions, no desires to procreate, and apparently no woman. So why were Observers hitting on hotties in “Letters of Transit”???
    Two gaffs in one episode?
    I will settle down.
    So folks, has this show EVER thrown a fastball down the middle. Anyone who thinks that Michael is heading to 2167, queue the violins, a flash of brilliant light and somehow the Bishop family singers will hit the stage, is crazy. We have spent 5 years getting the unexpected. The last two hours will be no different.
    I said months ago we had not seen the last of September. Looks like “Over there” is back in play for the finale. And I’m reasonable sure that Etta, either adult or toddler will make an appearance. It’s gonna be weird but it will be Fringe. Maybe the final shot will be Walter closing his eye.

    January 13, 2013 at 1:09PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Bestof

    Wyman has rewritten Fringe in season 5 to fit his own vision,
    which is clearly all about White Men, the onew with hair OverEmoting to the hill the ones bald, no hair , no emotions.

    Wyman has also decided that Olivia Dunham should only be seen as the ultimate victim and wife,
    See how Olivia was set up and most of all reduced to Peters wife in 4,15 and the ultimate victim in teh finale.
    Warner Brothers, and Bad Robot and Producers like Swerling and Pinkner and most of all have decided that only Noble should get his Emmy, and Jackson is the star,
    Every other showrunner would love Anna Torv as the lead, give her all the material to get an Emmy, only on Fringe the decided that she should get no credit.

    With season 5 treatment of Olivia and Anna Torv watching ComicCon 2012 comments of Jackson and Noble , who were involved from the start, it is even more disgusting as they belittled Anna.

    I want to know what the politics behind the scenes is , clearly Jackson has a special contract with Warner Brothers, as he pushed out Kirk Acevedo and , with his whining in the media managed to reduce the role of Olivia,
    Jackson and Noble together have dictated that they wanted the Walter and Peter they wanted, and with Noble that meant ,
    only the Walter that would make him the popular guy, not the Walter that abused children etc.
    So Noble blocked great story arcs for Anna Torv, and
    this season he was so condescending in a clip for the finale to say he was pleased that Anna will get something to do in episode 512.

    John Noble is Overrated, Walter is half the writing, and on top a clear copy of Walter Lewin, MIT prof Physics,
    you can find clips on You Tube, he is more funnier than Walter B has been,

    And For best episodes:
    -Pilot
    -Bad Dreams
    -Jacksonville
    -OverThere 1 and 2
    -The Sam Weiss-Olivia scenes in season 2, a lot of promis, again gone.
    -Olivia
    -Abducted
    -Entrada
    -Marionette
    -Bloodline
    -One Night in October

    Wordt episodes:
    -NortWest Pasage
    -Man Otherside
    -Bishop revival
    Letters of Transit horrible and on top it resulted in this horrible season.
    -

    Walter Lewin see where Noble gets his Bishop.

    January 15, 2013 at 12:47AM EST Reply to Comment
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      uh oh! You are a seriously sick individual, but let me add some fuel to your deranged fire: Anna Torv is not a good lead actress. The best thing the Fringe producers ever did was to realize her shortcomings and focus on what made this a great show: the father/son relationship. I hope she finds a nice comfortable niche as supporting actress in obscure Australian dramas, far away from my entertainment of choice. I don't want to bump into you ever again.

      January 15, 2013 at 3:45AM EST
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      mesa Agreed with Uh Oh. She was great as Olivia/Fauxlivia, but she really can't hold the show on her own. However, I think her material these past two seasons has been weak compared to what came before that.

      January 15, 2013 at 2:04PM EST

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