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'Fringe' Recap - 'Liberty'/'An Enemy Of Fate'

The show wraps up its five-year run.

Joshua Jackson in tonight's "Fringe"

Joshua Jackson in tonight's "Fringe"

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“It’s not about fate…it’s about changing fate. It’s about hope. And protecting our children.” September, to Walter Bishop

Here we are, at the end of the “Fringe” journey. It started with a mysterious incident on a plane and ended with a white tulip addressed to Peter Bishop. In between were some of the loveliest, most evocative, most affecting (as well as effective) genre storytelling on television in recent memory. It was far from a perfect show, as even the hardiest of fans would agree. But when it worked, it worked like gangbusters, and there was nothing else like it. Considering how downright strange, how openly earnest, and how narratively demanding it was, it’s no hyperbole to say that television as a whole was better for having “Fringe” in its ecosphere.
 
But it’s unfortunately also not hyperbole to say that tonight’s final two episodes proved this fifth and final season to be a huge misstep.
 
There are certain things that have been under the show’s control, and certain things that have not. The thirteen-episode final season was a gift by FOX to both the show itself and to its fans, a testament to how much the network brass loved the show even if they couldn’t find a way to make anyone actually watch it. With the final season order cut short, and with budgets undoubtedly slashed, showrunner J.H. Wyman and company had some decisions to make under those less-than-ideal circumstances. What they decided to do was double down on the crippling decision to reboot reality at the end of Season 3, once again creating a new timeline in which people have no recollection of what happened before. Sure, the tulip gives Peter pause, but we’ll never see him finish that mental thought. The show is over. The timelines have been reset. We remember the sacrifices. But those onscreen do not.
 
Last week, I wondered aloud if this meant any potential finale such as this would feel earned. (In essence, I asked: Would the actions onscreen be as meaningful if those that survived couldn’t remember it?) Whether or not it felt earned is for everyone to decide for themselves. But watching tonight’s back-to-back episodes, everything certainly felt tired. The first hour, “Liberty”, moved at an almost glacial pace that belied its placement in the overall structure of the series. It took nearly half of that episode simply to get Olivia into place to cross over. And whenever Walter or September reiterated the steps of the plan to defeat The Observers, neither felt particularly invested in the proceedings. That sense of weight pressing upon everything is a direct result of the show piling on plot to the point of overburdening “Fringe” as a whole, leaving the show to limp across the finish line. The first three seasons dealt with large issues, but kept things focused within intimate settings. Hell, you can sum it up thusly: “Two worlds. One door. Who ya got?” (In fact, I have summed it up thusly in the past.)
 
But if the overall plot was relatively simple, the emotional stakes were even simpler. Don’t confuse “simple” for “naïve”. In this case, “simple” is a positive trait, one that allowed for easy, often effortless connection with characters onscreen. Season 2’s “Peter” took a metaphysical, mindbending concept and forged a connection with the viewing public via primary emotional impulses. Learning that Walter crossed over to save Peter not only answered a big mystery, but also crystallized what worked about the show by grounding its fantastical proceedings in recognizable, understandable motivations. When the show did this (and it did it ridiculously often), “Fringe” sung. It could be as weird or gross or funny as it wanted to be, because we had Walter, Peter, and Olivia to ground us at all times. “Liberty” and “An Enemy Of Fate” tried to link the emotional truths of “Peter” through September’s connection with Michael. But one had to wade through multiple timelines, a season-long scavenger hunt, and dozens of Easter eggs masquerading as callbacks in order to arrive at that point. Mysteries this season weren’t tied to human wants and desires. In fact, they were often hermetically sealed from them.
 
Were there positives tonight? Of course. It was fantastic to see Lincoln and Fauxlivia (looking like Clay Morrow’s old lady on “Sons Of Anarchy”) again. And props should be freely and generously given to John Noble’s big farewell scenes with Joshua Jackson and Jasika Nicole. But three strong scenes do not a strong finale make. If anything, those scenes highlighted everything that was wrong around them. Sure, everything about the scavenger hunt came together. But…so what? That’s a testament to mechanical storytelling, nothing else. And that’s certainly a skill unto itself, but isn’t responsible for what has made “Fringe” great in the past.
 
Look back on the episodes this season. For every one that managed to tie in that piece of the puzzle with a character arc, another kept things standing still on both fronts. The pacing problems on display tonight have been there throughout the year. We never got enough sense of what transpired in the near future after Season 4, and we never really got a strong sense of the true calamity of the present. We couldn’t experience anything organically, as everything was squeezed through THE PLAN and compressed, contorted, and ultimately twisted around it. Nothing had anytime to breathe, which would have been OK had this season been a balls-to-the-wall thriller in a dystopian future. Instead, we saw our merry band of freedom fighters casually lasering holes in an ambered lab, right under the noses of the supposedly omniscient, omnipresent threat.
 
Antigravity bullets are indeed “cool”, Walter. Know what’s cooler? Caring about what’s going on. Caring about the stakes not of the world, but this particular group of people. As soon as Walter suddenly remembered The Magic Locker Full O’ Cortexiphan, my heart sank. Not only was that a deus ex machina of the highest order, but also served to reinforce one of my nagging issues all season: that Olivia Dunham was no longer the central focus of the show. For four seasons, the Bishop Boys provided plenty of emotional highs, and certainly drove a lot of the narrative. But Olivia’s role in “Fringe” as a whole was central. She was the one experimented on as a child. She was the one bred for war without her knowledge. She was someone designed as a pawn but has vast reserves of inner strength that provided her agency. She was vitally important by every conceivable metric. But her cortexiphan-laced biology was NOT the thing that made her special. Her resolve, her compassion, and her moral purpose helped keep everyone in check. Once her cortexiphan reserves were drained in the Season 4 finale, the show pushed her further and further into the recesses of the show, often keeping her offscreen for long periods of time while Walter and Peter figured out how to proceed. The Olivia we once knew was gone, replaced onscreen by a shell of that entity.
 
There’s no reason each character need stay the same over the course of a show. Things ebb and flow as story dictates. But Season 5 of “Fringe” isn’t the same as, say, Season 4 of “The Wire”. McNulty’s relative absence that season made sense. Olivia never went away this season to that extent, but she certainly disappeared in terms of overall importance to the story. Only when re-injected with the drug was she re-injected into active engagement with the storyline, allowing her to make four jumps to and from the red universe and then smash Windmark with a car after draining the power out of New York City. Cool? Sure. But Olivia Dunham was great without the active use of cortexiphan for years. Bringing it back now only served to show how underutilized Anna Torv has been this season.
 
All of this brings us to the end scene, which many had predicted would happen ever since the notion of another timeline reboot was introduced. It seemed so likely, in fact, that it was tempting to think the show was actually messing with us. But no, “Fringe” dumped us back into 2015 after Walter took Michael to 2167. There, it restaged the picnic scene we’ve seen sprinkled throughout the season. But this time, no Observers arrive, Etta lands safely in Peter’s arms, and neither he nor Olivia seem any the wiser about what has occurred. Sure, his last look after seeing the tulip seemed to trigger….something. That something could have been: the original timeline, the future in which Walternate shot Olivia, the reset timeline without him in it, the dystopian future in which the Observers ruled, or the reset post-yet-pre-apocalypse in which Walter’s letter arrives at Peter’s doorstep. So many options! Much like Windmark around Michael, I now have a massive nosebleed trying to figure that out.
 
As Maureen Ryan noted in her review of the start of the previously mentioned “Sons Of Anarchy”, complication is NOT the same as complexity. Simply adding things to the narrative pile doesn’t add anything but confusion. Having that many options behind Peter’s look isn’t a feature. It’s a bug. Let’s look at something else to help elucidate this point. Earlier today on Twitter, I asked followers if the “Mr. X” storyline had ever been actually resolved on the show. (I had forgotten, was on the go, but wanted to ask before it slipped my mind.) I got back roughly a dozen different answers to that seemingly simple question. Some people forgot about that plot line. Others were confident that it was never addressed. Some thought it maybe was William Bell. Others were so sure that it was Bell that they scolded me for daring to forget in the first place. That’s just one example of how the show piled on so many disparate elements that it ended up being its own worst enemy. The final onscreen mystery didn’t inspire awe. It only underlined the show’s obtuseness.
 
Know what I have never forgotten? Elizabeth Bishop unwilling to let Peter go after Walter brought him back. A professor of theoretical physics warping time itself to have another day with his wife. Olivia horrified to learn she had been replaced with a lookalike that her makeshift family may have even preferred to herself. The Pattern and the “First People” and the ZFT and this season’s scavenger hunt were window dressing on an intensely personal, often emotionally-rewarding chamber drama concerning family, love, and mutual respect. When the former services the latter, the show worked like no other. When it was the other way around, well…things didn’t work out so well. In the end, Season 5 was about making a device work. “Fringe” at its best was about finding out what made the human heart work. And while that heartbeat could still be occasionally heard this season, it was so faint and distance that you had to strain to hear it.
 
Instead, we mostly heard the monotone musings of Windmark and the other Observers. So enamored of these individuals were Wyman and Co. that they pushed our heroes aside in the final act in favor of these walking, talking ciphers. We never really learned what these entities wanted. Sure, they screwed up the planet in the future (something that really calls into question their superior intellect) and used twelve of their kind to scout optimal time periods to invade in the past. But their plan really boiled down to making the current world as inhospitable as the future. That seems counterproductive, to say the least. Their “infection” by emotion might have been interesting, tying into the show’s longstanding investigation of the interaction of science, morality, faith, and emotion. But really, in the end, they simply served as boogeyman of varied effectiveness. The Windmark who killed Etta? Terrifying badass. The Windmark who kept driving to places instead of teleporting when trying to capture resistance members? Less so. 
 
Regardless, “Fringe” made the mistake of thinking these creatures were the most interesting thing about the show, the logical endpoint for the series’ run. And that’s where we come to the real crux of things: Rather than keeping things human-scaled, “Fringe” committed the same sin so many long-running serials do: it tried to make its world bigger instead of deeper. Once Peter stepped into the Doomsday Device, the show’s fate was sealed. Ending the show the way it did, with a blissful family picnic, offers the illusion of that intimacy having pervaded the entire proceedings. But really, it was another Etch-A-Sketch approach that demonstrated the show’s inability to write itself out of the corners it created for itself. Throwing everything but the kitchen sink at a narrative isn’t good storytelling. It’s a smoke screen that attempts to hide the fact that “Fringe” didn’t trust that simply spending time with these characters would engage the audience enough. For a show that did exactly that for three seasons, and it did tremendously well, that lack of faith is fascinating as well as semi-tragic.
 
Does tonight, or even this season, negate the series as a whole? Of course not. A great finale doesn’t usually redeem an overall poor show, and a bad one certainly doesn’t erase the good stuff that preceded it. I don’t understand people that retroactively change their entire opinion about a series based on its last 30, 60, or 120 minutes. But that happened with “The Sopranos”, “Lost”, “Battlestar: Galactica”, and another dozen shows I could rattle off. It happens. Nothing I say can, will, or probably should change this phenomenon. That’s fine. But it’s also unfortunate.
 
Ultimately, “Fringe” was an often emotionally rich, deeply flawed television show that in later seasons moved away from what made it truly special. But it’s also a show that followed its own path throughout the course of its run. Sure, I bet all involved wish they had been able to film an extra season to connect the dots between seasons four and five, but it’s pretty clear that nothing in between would have changed the final destination. This is the story the show wanted to tell, and FOX gave them mostly enough resources to do it. That’s pretty remarkable, all things being said. People will find this show for decades to come, and imagine it will inspire equally passionate responses then as it has over these last five years. It resonated with the most of the small fan base that stuck around until the end, and there will always be a small but dedicated group henceforth that will share this show with others. If that’s the show ultimate legacy…well, that’s a mighty strong accomplishment.
 
What did you think of the finale? What will the show’s place in TV history be? Sound off below!
 
 

 

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    Shannon

    Completely agree with this review, as I have with most of what you've written about the last couple seasons of Fringe. I don't regret sticking it out till the end, as some of the character moments made it well worth my time (when I could puzzle out the complications of the multiple versions of reality). But for me, the show never recovered from the unnecessary reboot at the end of season 3.

    January 19, 2013 at 1:22AM EST Reply to Comment
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      mesa It's unfortunate that it never did. I myself will be rewatching select season 1 - 3 episodes to get these past two seasons of nonsense out of my head.

      January 19, 2013 at 2:05PM EST
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      Alex Totally agree. Really peculiar creative decision.

      January 20, 2013 at 4:17AM EST
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    Jason

    You missed something pretty important. It was Olivia's cortexiphan powers that took out Windmark. It was Michael.

    January 19, 2013 at 1:34AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Thom Exactly! That's what I thought, too.

      January 19, 2013 at 2:15AM EST
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      Ken from Chicago THE one typo I hate the most is the omitted "not". I end up saying the very opposite of what I intended. I assume you meant "It was [not] Olivia's cortexiphan powers ... It was Michael.".

      If that is what the show intended, it only underscores what Ryan said about the show, once again, pushing Olivia in the background of the show in which she is ostensibly the lead character.

      It's bad enough when it happened throughout most of Season 2 until that season's finale when she, and her cortexiphan friends ("Olivia & The Cortexiphan Friends", sounds like a superhero and/or rock group, but I digress) crossed ... Over There.

      Personally I would preferred the showdown between Olivia and Windmark with him holding Olivia in the air in his signature one-handed choke hold, with her life flashing before her eyes, ending with a shot of Etta, Peter, Walter AND Astrid together, and Olivia opening her eyes to stare down Windmark and him slowly smiling--but what he doesn't see are the lights slowly winking out of the city but he does, to his dawning confusion, realize his grip is loosening and Olivia landing on her feet and mentally blasting him in the air into the time rift--but only HALF of him makes it thru, the lower half, the upper falls to the ground with shock frozen on Windmark's face.

      To quote Ryan's best bud, and partner in podcasting, Maureen Ryan, "Olivia's lack of agency", even worse, the season-long ignoring of Astrid as her own person independent of the Bishops, not to mention NO ONE in 5 season ever asks where the FEMALE OBSERVERS are, well, again, kinda troubling.

      To be fair, at least they gave Nina Sharp some good, if conflicting, sometimes morally obtuse scenes, as well as gave Etta some very good scenes, and Fauxlivia's return was very nice--tho that was more about Anna Torv's fantastic performance. Her entrance as Fauxlivia, her body language is totally different, upbeat and alive.

      -- Ken from Chicago

      P.S. I assume the lack of Observers of color was because they were all albino, a condition that can turn anyone, regardless of ethnicity, chalk white.

      P.P.S. GENE! Gene the cow, FRINGE's counterpart to LOST's Rose & Bernard. As much as I hated LOST's series finale, I loved the appearance of Rose & Bernard, and their final resolution--so too with FRINGE and Gene. Gene's appearance, in amber, of course, in amber! That made me smile. I'm gonna get a milkshake in her honor.

      January 19, 2013 at 7:36AM EST
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      johnny Sure, the kid was pretty special and may or may not have been able to pull that off. But telekinesis IS an ability we have seen Olivia demonstrate plenty of times in the past. Why doubt her now?

      Also, just think for a minute and tell me why they would give that moment to Michael instead of Etta's mother? Her parents were the only ones who had the right to extract their revenge from Windmark. Having Michael kill him is just meaningless.

      January 21, 2013 at 7:55AM EST
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    Jason

    Excuse me, that was meant to say "It WASN'T Olivia's cortexiphan powers."

    January 19, 2013 at 1:35AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Bob7 Wrong. Michael stepped off the bus because he could see the future and knew that Olivia would be injected to find him, thus activating her powers, thus saving his life and killing Windmark. Remember when she said what do I do next, he put his finger to his mouth. When she killed Windmark he did it again.

      January 19, 2013 at 2:42AM EST
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      Emily I personally read that as a shuush sign, or as I read it, calm down, stop making ripples, stop trying to change fate, as it was eventually revealed that Walter did have to be the one to take Michael

      January 19, 2013 at 3:02AM EST
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      bitchstolemyremote Agree with Bob7 - it was Olivia and her powers. That's why all the lights went off after we see her grab Etta's necklace - it's her rage that she will never see her daughter again because of Windmark that prompts her to telekinetically smash him.

      The shush sign from Micheal is him foreshadowing the silence that follows after she turns out the lights.

      January 19, 2013 at 4:32PM EST
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    Mike

    What grade would you give this episode? You gave Chuck an "A" for the series finale (I agree with the grade - They did a lot wrong but hit the emotional beats when it mattered) what is your take for this crap.."C-" ?

    January 19, 2013 at 1:36AM EST Reply to Comment
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      CM I would swap this review for the Chuck review. Chuck gave no emotional payoff. Fringe (as poorly done as it waas) did give an emotional payoff

      January 19, 2013 at 1:33PM EST
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      Shawn Mahone Please see my comment below.

      January 20, 2013 at 3:06AM EST
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    Too Late Kev

    "'Liberty' and 'An Enemy Of Fate' tried to link the emotional truths of 'Peter' through September’s connection with Michael. But one had to wade through multiple timelines, a season-long scavenger hunt, and dozens of Easter eggs masquerading as callbacks in order to arrive at that point."

    And unfortunately, I didn't care enough about September or Michael for the point to be made effectively.

    Thank you for the great recap/review of these two episodes as well as what worked and didn't in the series.

    January 19, 2013 at 1:38AM EST Reply to Comment
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    AntiClimax

    Fringe 512 was the best episode of the season,
    it had Olivia central (proved how important that is) AltLivia and Lincoln, Over There and Cortexiphan.

    513 was boring and boring men talking and crying boring,
    with some shooting and badly directed action on the side.
    Best part of 513 waere the Olivia and Astrid scene and Olivia killing Windmark.
    The end was so predictable in every way, and so kitsch.

    In advance Jackson said that 512 was exclusively Olivia, all I saw was regular screentime for the main lead Olivia Dunham,
    but season 5 it is a special anouncement if Olivia gets something to say and do.

    It clearly was a bone at the last minute for Anna Torv, she got a bit of AltLivia and a bit of double, and it shows what an amazing actress she is, as we had an older version of AltLivia,
    sadly she did not get a decent scene between Olivia and AltLivia,
    and I read from fans who saw filming that a long scene with AltLivia , Lincoln Lee and their son was cut,
    All for the looooooooonnnnnggg crying talking crying scene between Walter and Peter, and another for Walter and Donald,in 513.
    writing for Noble and Jackson, yes the can, writing for Anna Torv, we will not.

    So Noble and Jackson have their story arcs told, with storylines reflecting their past , their history, etc.

    Anna Torv had with Olivia so many potential story arcs to deal with her past en history, but Wyman has decided for this one:

    Olivia who is emotional damaged by men, Walter, Bell and stepdad, will have her growth by being lied to, deceived and humilated by Peter, over and over,
    and still wants to have her life with him.

    Peter gets his revenge, Peter gets his anger storyarc with Walter, Peter gets Over There etc.
    Walter gets his redemption, gets to redeem himself etc,
    but Olivia never got an arc to be anger with Walter,
    and she never got an arc to deal with her abuse, to take control, and be no longer the victim.

    Women are there to be used, see Olivia, and they always have to forgive, see Olivia.
    And women are the caretakers.

    Fringe has become a show about White men with hair being emotional anf do a lot of empy cryimg
    White men bald who have no emotions.
    And it is all about the superior Men,

    Wyman hates women.
    Wyman cannot direct.
    Wyman is not fit to be a showrunner.
    Wyman loves the most sickening kitsch.

    I will never watch anything where Wyman is involved again.

    January 19, 2013 at 1:42AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Anticlimax Final Note:

      TVwriters should learn about acting, characters, acting within a character and writing for a character.

      It is clear that they think that an actor acts when he gets lines, big scenes, tearjerkers etc, they get all the credit,
      if an actor plays a character that is quiet introverted, and hardly any lines, opposite.

      Example Fringe season 5, episode 5

      Walter gives Olivia the little Etta birtday tape, Noble gets all the lines, Anna Torv has to do all her acting with facial expressions, she makes the scene,
      It is Noble that gets all the credit.

      The outstanding actor on Fringe is Anna Torv, she is awesome, she has created multiple versions of Olivia/Altlivia from little material, never got anything real to do with the backstory, often lousy writing, and this season half the time no lines,
      But Anna always turned every second on screen in gold, never gets the credit, not from WB/Fox, not from production, not from Pinkner and especially not from Wyman, and never from the media.
      Olivia Dunham was central to Fringe,
      and Anna Torv was central to Fringe.


      January 19, 2013 at 1:54AM EST
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      jest lol

      January 19, 2013 at 1:57AM EST
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      Thom Hehehehehe!

      January 19, 2013 at 2:17AM EST
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      bob Good Grief.. Your complaint just seems to say.. "Blah men.. where are the women?"

      It's obvious that you have some kind of female agenda.. especially confirmed by.. "Wyman hates women".

      Put down the keyboard and develop a wider world view. Your rambling is pointless.

      January 19, 2013 at 3:07AM EST
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      Zef I know you get a bad rap here but I basically agree with your assessment on the treatment of Olivia all season. Terribly disappointing overall but as you say, 5.12 at least gave her something to do and I really enjoyed her adventure in that. I found 5.13 fairly boring myself and was quite over the whole show by the end of it which is a great shame.

      Anyway, now that Fringe is over I'm interested to see what Anna Torv shows up in. I hope she gets some meaty roles.

      January 19, 2013 at 3:08AM EST
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      RealityCheck The most interesting question is: What is the obsessed Anna Torv stalker fan (who keeps changing her screen name but can't disguise her wide eyed "crazy" writing style) is going to do now that her life's work (crucifying Wyman and ANYONE who, in her mind, stifles her Beloved Anna) is OVER... Get a life and some therapy wingnut! LOL

      January 21, 2013 at 5:20PM EST
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    ed w

    Good recap.

    Part of the problem for Fringe was that it ran away from its procedural elements sometime during late season 3 and since then has been kind of a rambling mess. Ongoing serialized narrative shows are nice - I like Breaking Bad and Mad Men a lot - but some shows fit more into a hybrid niche and this was one of them. It moved too far away from the monster of the week stuff to the point that there was no longer any visceral excitement.

    January 19, 2013 at 1:49AM EST Reply to Comment
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      cub mytholigy did the same thing to both X-Files and Fringe.

      that's why the original Kolchak, the one that inspired it all, will always be better.

      January 19, 2013 at 9:38AM EST
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      cub mythology! typo! aarrgghh!

      January 19, 2013 at 9:39AM EST
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    What's Alan Watching

    Why did they build the time machine if they could have used the shipping device to go ahead in time? BS They just thought of it after they found out they need a new reactor thing,They collected all the other parts for the shipping device in order to use that to go back in time. Why did they collect all those other parts for the for the shipping device if it had nothing to do with the first time machine that didn't work. that means they had to have known that the core wasnt going to work and they'd would need to use those other parts as a backup. Which begs the question why even build the first time machine in the first place?

    January 19, 2013 at 2:06AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Wha'ts Alan watching

    Why did they build the time machine if they could have used the shipping device to go ahead in time? BS They just thought of it after they found out they need a new reactor thing,They collected all the other parts for the shipping device in order to use that to go back in time. Why did they collect all those other parts for the for the shipping device if it had nothing to do with the first time machine that didn't work. that means they had to have known that the core wasn't going to work and they'd would need to use those other parts as a backup. Which begs the question why even build the first time machine in the first place?Why did they build the time machine if they could have used the shipping device to go ahead in time? BS They just thought of it after they found out they need a new reactor thing,They collected all the other parts for the shipping device in order to use that to go back in time. Why did they collect all those other parts for the for the shipping device if it had nothing to do with the first time machine that didn't work. that means they had to have known that the core wasn't going to work and they'd would need to use those other parts as a backup. Which begs the question why even build the first time machine in the first place?

    January 19, 2013 at 2:08AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Ken from Chicago They built the time machine NOT merely to go forward in time but go forward to a SPECIFIC DATE.

      The shipping channel would normally go to Windmark's future, in the 2600s (the point when the Observers had polluted the planet and, after seeing TERRA NOVA, decided to NOT travel to a parallel Earth but travel back in time to good ole terra firma).

      September/Donald needed to go to the 2100s, when scientists first thought to sacrifice emotions for increased intelligence. Once the scientists analyze the boy, Michael, the scientists will realize emotions do NOT have to be sacrificed for intelligence, thus preventing the creation of the Observers (and maybe in 2167 they'll figure out why the frell the kid says Jack diddly squat and never EXPRESSES all the emotions everyone keeps saying he has, I mean really, would it have killed them to have the kid smile or frown?)

      -- Ken from Chicago

      P.S. Yes, I know, if the Observers are never created, then September never distracts Walternate from curing his Peter Over There then Walter never crosses universes, yadda. I figure the re-reset timeline has the "universe window" cause a slight flash of energy when it first opens, thus Walternate is distracted by it, thus missing the sign of the color change of the cure for Peter, so Walter feels even MORE guilty and more determined to cross over to cure Peter Over There.

      P.P.S. Yes, it have been nice if Olivia and Peter had discussed the possibility that his existence could be wiped out, and Olivia speculating other events could have distracted Walternate. But noooo.

      January 19, 2013 at 8:04AM EST
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    Razorback

    I am in a few arguments on my blog over my review (or whatever you call it). I am very happy to read that Ryan called them to task for such poor story telling.

    The last season, or even the last two, won't diminish the greatness of seasons 2 and 3. Just like CHUCK seasons 4 and 5 don't make me hate seasons 1-3. It just makes me disappointed in those seasons.

    January 19, 2013 at 2:19AM EST Reply to Comment
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      CM Chuck's finale rendered the entire series pointless. Fringe's finale only wipes out S4 & S5.

      January 19, 2013 at 1:35PM EST
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      Shawn Mahone Wait.....What? How did the finale render the series pointless? Sarah was beginning to remember in the finale her life of the last 5 years. Sarah could not shoot Chuck, Sarah stayed in Burbank and could not leave, Sarah remembered their beach from 5 years ago. Sarah asked Chuck to tell her their story and she cried and had an emotional response.

      Say what you want about the Chuck finale but their point I think was that what made Chuck and Sarah's relationship so meaninful is that memories or physical objects or bad guys or good guys...basically nothing could or would stop these two characters knowing that they deep down love each other and always will...it was deeply ingrained in their souls that they would always find each other. That is a great emotional payoff....you have to have faith I suppose that everything will be ok, I think it was because Sarah was beginning to remember and that was enough for me as was her laughing and crying on that final beach scene.....fantastic!

      Fringe did not pay anything off because Walter ceases to exist so no one knoews what he did and go to geekfurios.com and read all the comments about the violation of space and time and realise that the writers half assed this season...

      January 20, 2013 at 3:16AM EST
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      Shawn Mahone I know that people think that love means always going forwards...you date, engage, marry, house, kids, etc and I understand people who are pissed because they think that all of Chucks progress was thrown out. I think the fact that Chuck and Sarah talked about those last 2 things of House and Kids that they wanted it was meant to show that when they were ready they would have the same feelings and that is the point. Once Sarah remembers she will want those things I suppose...when a show makes an audience work for it then that is enough I suppose....

      January 20, 2013 at 3:33AM EST
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      CM Without Sarah regaining her memories, AND us knowing that she did, the finale was entirely incomplete. Episode 5.14 was required.

      But then really I suppose the finale had absolutely nothing to with Sarah. It was always JUST about Chuck.

      January 20, 2013 at 3:02PM EST
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      CM BTW the Chuck and Sarah relationship hasn't been "meaningful" since the end of S2. This probably affects the intent of the finale.

      January 20, 2013 at 5:00PM EST
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      Shawn Mahone Watch Chuck versus phase three and tell me it was not meaningful. Watch their wedding or their talk of their future and their hopes and dream and tell me it was not meaningful. The show runner and the actors all said that she remembered and that includes Yvonne. You lack faith and that is ok I can understand that but I guess I did not. On first viewing I was feeling similar until I thought about it and understood the possibilities it made me reconsider and happy. If the message of the finale that Sarah could not help but love Chuck no matter what than that was enough for me. Season 2 was lust...seasons 3-5 was love I think but to each their own.

      January 20, 2013 at 7:25PM EST
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      CM Actor & showrunner interviews and comments are totally irrelevant to what was shown (or in this case not shown) on the screen. Interviews and comment ARE NOT canon

      January 20, 2013 at 9:40PM EST
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      Shawn Mahone Lets agree to disagree, I saw something you did not or maybe I saw something that was no there...no problem. I was just trying to reinforce that what I saw was what the show runners and actors wanted us to see... I guess we are all wrong.

      January 20, 2013 at 11:14PM EST
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      CM That would probably be wise.

      We could all be right. We'll never know. Such is the way with ambiguous endings.

      January 21, 2013 at 12:23AM EST
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    Thom

    "But her cortexiphan-laced biology was NOT the thing that made her special."

    I'm sorry, but they made it very clear last season that was the case. Until the baddies pumped her with cortexiphan, Olivia didn't get her groove back.

    The finale nailed the character moments between Peter and Walter and then Astrid and Walter. That's all.

    January 19, 2013 at 2:28AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Emily

    I partly agree with you, fringe is at it's best an exploration on humanity, and for that reason I can understand the motivations of the producers wanting to explore the observers, I think they were aiming for some sort of comparison, or exploration of what is humanity, and really one of the largest themes of the show essentially science (or reason) vs emotion (or heart), to which (similar to what they did ealier with the shape-shifters) exploring the observers are the obvious choice, on paper. In reality I think they made a major miscalculation with season 4, in removing the core charters, and their motivations and histories, and tried to undo some of that by another reboot, which wasn't really the right way to go. I was somewhat erked that the solution to all there problems was yet *another* reboot, to result in some happy ending, although I was extremely satisfied with Walter's story arc, sacrificing himself (although that would have been way more effective if he had somehow been responsible for the creation of the observers, and was more fully rectifying his past sins)

    That all being said, I loved the finale, it was not a perfect episode of fringe by a long shot, it served more to wrap up, and call back certain elements (as much as i LOVED seeing the other side, that was only there to satisfy fans) but for the past two seasons of Fringe I have been watching it almost entirely for their astounding emotional beats, Walter saying goodbye to Astrid and Peter, Donald dying ect. While I may not have enjoyed the overall narrative structure of the past two seasons, I have very much enjoyed the emotional journey fringe took me on, and the questions it raised. I think the real emotional journey of this season which was already resolved, was that of peter and oliva after Etta's death, and some of the breath-taking scenes between Observer-Peter and Oliva. I think everyone knew the outcome of the 5th season walking into it, so to me, this episode, delivered that outcome in as moving and emotional way as it could, if so, also in a way that was inteded to be anaylised by film students for decades to come

    January 19, 2013 at 2:58AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Matt

    The season finale of season 3 should have been called "The Day the Show Died" instead. The Doomsday device really did doom the show, god I wish Peter had never stepped in that godforsaken machine!

    January 19, 2013 at 3:34AM EST Reply to Comment
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      cub or just never returned.

      January 19, 2013 at 9:23AM EST
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      Ed W Exactly. That was the episode the show imploded.

      January 19, 2013 at 11:24AM EST
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      guest That's really harsh. For me it's what they did with the ending in the concept for season 4. They could have still continued on from season 3 in season 4 and taken the show in a completely different direction to what they did. I think the producers got caught up in trying to do too many versions of the characters and ultimately it wrecked the show. The show should of ended at the end of season 3.

      January 28, 2013 at 9:32PM EST
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    vicdigital

    The last 30,60,120 minutes of a serialized show are the same as the last 10 minutes in a movie, or the last few chapters of a novel. If you can't nail the landing, then the entire book/movie/show was a disappointment. Not fair, maybe, but those are the stakes and expectations of a show like Lost, BSG, Breaking Bad, etc. The journey is fun, but it's all about the ending. (Unless the show is Sopranos, and then the ending IS Journey). Breaking Bad has a chance to end its run as the Greatest Show of All Time... IF it nails the landing. If the finale is something completely ridiculous, then that will taint everything that came before. Were those still good EPISODES? Sure. But a serialized show MUST be judged on its ending, because everything builds up to it and must be paid off in it.

    January 19, 2013 at 3:38AM EST Reply to Comment
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    WRAP

    Season 5 was Wyman doing everything to reduce Olivia to Peters wife,
    Eoisode 512 was the 1 episode that was old style Olivia centric, it was the ebst, showed how important Anna Torv is,
    but also showed how little writing she got the rest of the season.

    Wyman involved Jackson and Noble from teh start of thw riting of this season, they got what they wanted, see Comic con press,
    Anna Torv was later informed, and clearlt lied to,
    from the few interviews she did, it comes across she was expecting a total diferent writing for Olivia,

    Jackson and Noble at Comic Con saying that Olivia/Anna is teh lead,
    comes now as very condescending across,

    Noble saying for 512 that he was pleased Anna got to play AltLivia, even more condescending, as it turmed out it was a few bit scenes and a big scene was cut.

    Wyman has humiliated Anna Torv, as an actress and as a person, Every other showrunner would give her the best material, she is a great actress, but season 5 it seems Anna had to do her own writing?

    Anna Torv is number one of the call sheet, the main lead, she should have had the final scene at least.

    But the last scene was for Jackson

    Anna Torv should have had teh final wrap on set,

    But that was also for Jackson.

    (On twitter the Ass Director did not even dare mention it, but a Pacey fan did)

    May be someone has the guts to ask Wyman
    why he felt the need to treat Anna Torv like this?

    PS . Wyman gets drroling tweets , he thinks himself God,
    all the Olivia and Anna fans are white with anger on twitter.

    January 19, 2013 at 4:02AM EST Reply to Comment
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      cub good (just glad to know my anger has company). astrid got thrown a sop in the finale, and olivia was reduced to a flower pot, an incubator for magic babies twice in this show.

      she used to be the face of Fringe, but now she'll be remembered as a uterus and a backdrop.

      January 19, 2013 at 9:21AM EST
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      guest LOL. Your completely nuts. The producers/writers write the show they want, it's got nothing to do with the actors. They might make suggestions, but in the end the producers writer/make the story they want to make. It's their story and their baby. I hope Joel W takes out a restraining order against you.

      January 28, 2013 at 9:37PM EST
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    lxUn1c0

    Here's just one example of my many giant problems with the plot of the finale, as well as the final season in general. Donald/September went to November because they needed a new energy source for THE PLAN. November went into the future to get it, because he "owed" September. This begs the question...why not just have November take Michael into the future? Oh, right...because THE PLAN was more important than anything else this season, and the writers made that perfectly clear.

    I was perfectly fine with the direction season 4 took. I thought it was bold, but it gave the writers a lot of new ground to explore. It kind of tapered towards the end, but season 5 made it look almost fantastic by comparison. It quickly became very clear this season that all the writers and producers cared about anymore was achieving syndication, as if that was the end goal all along. It was underdeveloped, mostly unoriginal, and poorly executed. I could tell that the actors cared about the way they closed out the series for their characters, but it seems like everyone else involved with this season was just in a rush to get it over with.

    At the very least, Peter and Olivia got to have their happily ever after, and Walter was able to redeem himself through personal sacrifice. It's just too bad that the ending also made the entire season seem circular and pointless.

    January 19, 2013 at 4:58AM EST Reply to Comment
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    nabguy

    Not overly thrilled with the finale. For all of the callbacks and winks, it felt like the finale to a very different show than the one I fell for by the end of Season 1. I was all for giving the benefit of the doubt after Season 4...but I'm now convinced 'The Day We Died' should have been a 2 hour series finale.

    Also, I'm no Anna Torv stalker (some posts here, YIKES), but Olivia REALLY got the shaft this year.

    January 19, 2013 at 5:05AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Living head And were you as concerned when Joshua Jackson was shafted for 5 years?

      January 19, 2013 at 7:36AM EST
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      Ken from Chicago Nope, Living Head, FRINGE became the Walter and Peter show first in Season 2 and partially during Season 4 and 5--especially during Neo-Peter superpowered arc. Joshua Jackson got lots to do screenwise--and got the final scene in the series.

      January 19, 2013 at 8:11AM EST
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      guest Well considering that the Walter/Peter story is why the Fringe story had a beginning, Ken from Chicago, then it only seems fit that some parts of the seasons gets devoted to them. Olivia had a big part at the end of season 2, so I wouldn't claim that it was all about P/W. Olivia has been prominent through the whole series, so why people begrudge the other lead characters time in the series baffles me. The show does have other characters, but to some it doesn't seem to be the case.

      January 28, 2013 at 9:46PM EST
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    Haha

    Ryan McGee, not sure if you're going to read this comment but I just wanted to say the only good thing thing coming out of Fringe being gone forever is that I hope you never write anything about Fringe ever again.

    Your thoughts were always polluted, so polluted that when you saw that people hated your reviews, you started to write these half-assed "I'm not making compromises, maybe you like it maybe probably I don't, but I mostly do maybe hate it" that you so called "reviews" or "receaps".

    You made these comment sections a hate-watching wasteland: everyone who loves the show left this blog a long time ago. That's a pretty good sign that your reviews are written in a infected way. And reflects how bad a TV reviewer you are: what you write doesn't help creat thoughtfull discussion, just hate.

    You're sadly one of the worst TV reviewers I've ever come across and I truly hope you never review a relevant and interesting TV show again (If you do, I'll be there to remind you how worthless you are). I do hope that a great war never happens again, but maybe that would make TV critics see how stupid, pointless, useless their job and life is.

    January 19, 2013 at 7:54AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Joe Agreed 100%. I came back here today to see if anything had changed... big mistake.

      January 19, 2013 at 9:05AM EST
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      Sareeta Yep. I stopped reading after the 2nd paragraph because I din't want my opinion of the finale to be affected. AV CLUB has done this show more justice even if the comment section is horrific on that site.

      January 19, 2013 at 10:22AM EST
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      Manmandiran Agreed, too. I mean, what Ryan says is not necessarily untrue, but it's like looking at a beautiful and smart woman and say: "Hey, she's got a pimple on the chin! She's ugly and stupid."
      My take on Fringe is that it's always been, almost since the beginning, a show about Time, and about Science: I like the fact that it's something of a thought experiment, something a little bit abstract, and I really don't care if the characters we've got at the end are not the same as the ones we were used to the previous seasons. Hell I'm not even sure if I'm the same as I was a year ago. Things change. Characters are important, but in my view, the interlacing of themes, the reflection, what I would call the "poetics" of a show matter more than realism and characters. This is fiction, it's not Psychology 101, gee.

      Fringe was original, Fringe was moving, Fringe was scary. And overall, it was a very, very good show.

      January 19, 2013 at 7:43PM EST
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      Ken Raining I'm glad you posted this so that I didn't have to. I gave up on McGee and moved over the the AV Club last year for my Fringe talk fix, but I came back to see what he had to say. What a mistake. Obviously, the people that feel differently about the state of the show left here a long time ago, which is why there's only negative commenters left. Oh, and the crazy guy with the Anna Torv obsession, obviously.

      January 20, 2013 at 9:58AM EST
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      Trucutru I mostly agree with McGee's opinion of the show but this:

      "Your thoughts were always polluted, so polluted that when you saw that people hated your reviews, you started to write these half-assed "I'm not making compromises, maybe you like it maybe probably I don't, but I mostly do maybe hate it" that you so called "reviews" or "receaps"."

      is spot on.

      January 28, 2013 at 2:46PM EST
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    cub

    since the reset didn't give us back olivia, astrid, and charlie, in a universe where they exist as german shepherds working for the Fringe division of the TSA, i have to agree with the review.

    i don't know whether it's true, but i have a sneaking suspicion that we early-adopters tend to look at the show with a more critical eye. i feel like i was tricked into watching a sci-fi show with at least 3 strong female characters until it button-hooked with a daddy-loves-peter narrative.

    once his magic baby-ness was revealed, i should've bailed.

    January 19, 2013 at 9:10AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Ken from Chicago

    How do you solve a problem like FRINGE series?

    So the Time Machine needs a new "spark plug"? It's simple. All they gotta do is ... tap into the energy from an open "shipping" lane from the future to get 1.21 jiggawatts of power (oh come on, that got the crazy professor and his kid assistant).

    Now the catch is they need some kind of thingy to control the flow of energy to manageable levels so it won't overwhelm the time machine. They have to steal that control device from the only Observer station in the area--oh it happens to be where they have Broyles.

    Olivia and Peter rescue Broyles who asks why since they are resetting time. Olivia answers, just in case The Plan doesn't work.

    After Walter tells Astrid that she has a lovely name, she tells him she wants to show him something she's been working on.

    Later, the gang discuss the plan to tap into an open shipping lane for power that's being guarded by numerous Observers. Astrid passes out black vests to Walter, Peter and Olivia. She adds shows she's already wearing one and says she only had enough time to make four, but thinks they might help even some of the odds against the Observers. Natch, they ask how, to which Astrid smiles and says, "Let me explain."--CUT TO COMMERCIAL.

    During the showdown at the shipping line our gang leads the attack and things are going well, when the Observers start popping in and rallying wading thru the Resistance, until one of the Observers confronts Astrid who fires on him. He teleports behind her and grabs her--only to be flung back a few feet. She turns and shoots him. Walter raves about her "electro-vest". Astrid comments, "You Bishops aren't the only clever ones to notice the Observers' fighting tactics."

    The same happens to other Observers who try teleporting behind Our Heroes and attacking from behind, they get flung back or tazed from the electricity and Our Heroes turns and shoots them.

    Natch, Windmark notices, and notes it's only those four, and only in the back, so he goes for the frontal attack, teleporting to side of each of them, swatting their guns and tossing them against nearby walls, except for Olivia who manages to dodge.

    Windmark, rips the vest, breaking the circuit and simply chokes Olivia in his signature one-armed choke hold and slowly smiling, reveling in his hate.

    Olivia's life flashes before her eyes, ending with Peter, Etta, Walter and Astrid and Olivia opens her eyes to stare down Windmark. We see the lights wink out of the city as Windmark sees with shock that his grip is loosening until Olivia lands on her feet and mentally blasts him into the time rift--well the lower half. The upper half falls to the ground with Windmark's face frozen in shock.

    Olivia gathers everyone to the time machine and Walter throws the switch tapping the power from the time rift. Donald activates the time machine and creates a new time portal, smiles at everyone and leaves with Michael--and time resets with a blinding flash of light.

    Olivia jerks, startled, then realizes she is back at the park at the picnic. Peter looks around confused at first then recognizes where he's at, looking at Olivia who nods, then both turn at the sound of laughter, young Etta's laughter as she runs towards them. They jump up and race to hug her.

    FADE TO WHITE and FADE to Olivia and Peter at a bar restaurant table with Walter, Astrid and Broyles, who asks what happened. Walter and Peter give a technobabble answer quantum states, being at the center of a major quantum flux with a special radius of the time machine imprinting on their awareness across timestreams.

    Astrid cuts them off, explaining to Broyles that they were at eye of the storm, close enough to the time machine that it not only imprinted the old timeline on their memories but previous histories they've been exposed to.

    Astrid looks at all the surprised faces, "Hey, you hang around a couple of geniuses for a few years and you pick up a few things."

    The waiter shows up with a glass of wine for everyone and Olivia offers a toast, "To those we've left behind."

    That's when Nina shows up with young Etta and apologizes for being late, that she was just showing young Etta a tour of Massive Dynamic, her grandpa's company that'll be hers one day.

    Etta: "Mine?"

    Nina: "That's right, kiddo, you've got a very bright future ahead of you. What ... why are all of you smiling?"

    Olivia (who grabs Peter's hand and looks back at Etta): "No, we agree. We totally agree. Etta, you have a very bright future ahead."

    January 19, 2013 at 9:41AM EST Reply to Comment
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    garyc

    Liked the final two hours. Did not find it too slow moving at all. Didn't love it the way I loved the Lost finale (one of a small minority it seems.)Found the call-backs a lot of fun (especially Olivia's alt-universe visit and Alt-livia's reaction to Lincoln watching her younger "self". I'm not a scientist so have no idea if time travel is ever possible so just accepted that story made sense.

    Agree with Ryan (and most other posters) opinions that the first three seasons were the best, but still liked the last two. Don't know that there was anywhere left to go with the Alt-Universe after season three. And you have to have some story. Don't think you could show an hour a week of your main characters sitting around the lab laughing at Walter's eccentricities (spelling?). And don't think they could have gone back to being a procedural show at that point. Do not agree that the treasure hunt dominated this season. To me was more of a rough framework around which to organize the season, but personally thought the emotional moments (Etta and her parents, Michael-September) dominated.

    Agree with criticism about Windmark and the Observers; one moment they appear nearly omnipotent, the next Olivia etc. are working unmolested in Walter's old lab and the Observors never think to check there and are travelling (mostly unmolested) back and forth to New York City despite being the most wanted people in the world. Also wonder how security around the fringe headquarters could be so lax that Olivia and Peter are able to dump the toxic chemicals in the finale.

    January 19, 2013 at 10:06AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Sareeta

    I thought the finale was excellent. Lots of call backs to previous seasons, Olivia finally got to do something again once she was dosed with cortexiphan, we got to see "over there" again, Walter and Peter got their opportunity to reconcile, and they saved the world without too much death (I was expecting Broyles and Walter to die; thankfully Broyles and Walter live, but Nina and September died). I feel like it delivered on everything I was looking for, so 10/10.

    That said, I only wish they had used the previous episodes more effectively to build towards the finale. Most of the episodes this season were extremely well-acted, but still boring. I feel like they could have revealed Michael in episode 1 or 2 and Donald/September in episode 2 or 3 so that we could have spent less time on searching for the hidden tapes, and more time with the characters that were supposedly the key to saving the world. While I really loved the transformation of September into Donald, I must say I was disappointed with the Michael character who didn't do anything other than force Olivia to risk everything to chase after him.

    Anyway, I'm still highly satisfied with the finale and feel like Fringe had perhaps my favorite series finale ever and Fringe is definitely going down as one of my favorite series of all time. It took big risks, which paid off more than failed.

    January 19, 2013 at 10:13AM EST Reply to Comment
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    garyc

    Also agree with reviewer's comment about confusion vs. complexity. Still not sure who squashed Windmore at the end. It was Olivia, not Michael I think.

    January 19, 2013 at 10:39AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Kwas

    I found the finale, like the past 2 seasons, to be a little flawed but ultimately very satisfying. A lot of these criticisms are valid, but for me, these last 2 hours still hit all the emotional grace notes that I was looking for.
    I know that Anna Torv gets top billing, and the show was originally more Olivia-centric, but I always saw the show as having 3 leads, and I have enjoyed Walter and Peter's journey all the way through.
    I know that they had to cut some narrative corners (though props to Fox for even giving them this much), but I think they told the story they wanted to tell and kept us emotionally invested.
    I see a lot of parallels to Chuck - devoted fans, low ratings, network throws a bone with a truncated final season. I also loved the Chuck finale and although people here seem to remember it fondly, I also remember a lot of haters right after it aired. Hopefully in time, the Fringe finale will also be seen as the success that it was.

    January 19, 2013 at 11:06AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Thom The show has 3 leads and it has 3 main characters. Those who wanted the Olivia Dunham show haven't been paying attention to what the producers have been saying all the time: it's about the 3 of them.

      She had a different role this season, because there weren't any Fringe cases, but then they all had different roles.

      January 20, 2013 at 3:18AM EST
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    madmeme

    Setting aside the other myriad problems with the finale (and season five in general), how did Walter Bishop send the tulip from the future? From the past I can understand - but the future?

    January 19, 2013 at 11:45AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Danny Can someone remind me of the significance of the "white tulip?" How many times has it shown up or been referenced? I seem to recall Walter receiving it and it gave him hope, but not sure who it came from? September?

      January 19, 2013 at 2:17PM EST
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    T

    Ryan, the actor who voiced Mr. X was asked if he had been told whether he would be coming back by the producers. He said that here was some talk but that ultimately it didn't happen. Thus, I think it's logical to assume that the Mr. X storyline was suddenly changed to be 'oh hai, it was meant to represent William Bell' all along.

    January 19, 2013 at 11:56AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Intellectual Ninja No... Mr. X was Walter.

      Olivia, as a child, without the benefit of knowing Peter, always believed Walter would kill her.

      And he did. He shot her in the head.

      Seriously... do you people even pay attention to the show?

      January 19, 2013 at 1:18PM EST
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    Intellectual Ninja

    Once again, Ryan McGee completely and utterly misses the point.

    As he has the last two season of Fringe.

    Again, I make the connection to Ryan McGee and the people watching BSG who refused to see that "God" and "Angels" were explicit parts of the show going all the way back to the minseries, and made completely known (a bit on the nose, really) to us in season 2's Home Part 2.

    Sometimes, people can't get of their own way to see what's in front of them, can't see the forest for the trees. And that's been Ryan McGee for season 4 and 5 of Fringe.

    It's quite sad, because he's so good in so many other places.

    If you want to read a review that actually gets it, that actually understands Fringe, you can find it here:

    http://www.avclub.com/articles/libertyan-enemy-of-fate,90861/

    January 19, 2013 at 1:17PM EST Reply to Comment
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      JasonR The only major difference between the two reviews is their opinion of the final image. Since Ryan looked less favorably on that final image the tone of his review was a bit more negative, but the AV Club review kept forgiving all of the missteps (the same ones that Ryan pointed out) because the reviewer like the final moment better.

      As per usual, neither is correct (or could ever be correct) since each person has to make up their own mind.

      I fall much closer to Ryan's opinion of the finale and final season all together. I really wish that the final reset had kept us in the current future so that we could see how Olivia, Peter, Etta, etc.. had turned out. And then have a flashback to the park day when Walter would have disappeared. The best of both worlds!

      January 19, 2013 at 6:50PM EST
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    cooper

    "Olivia Dunham was no longer the central focus of the show. For four seasons, the Bishop Boys provided plenty of emotional highs, and certainly drove a lot of the narrative. But Olivia’s role in “Fringe” as a whole was central. The Olivia we once knew was gone, replaced onscreen by a shell of that entity."

    This. Yes.

    JJ Abrams said that Joel in particular was beholden to the fans... the aggressive, 'we want Bishop boys' fans.

    I was floored this by Olivia's non presence this season. Could you imagine Sydney Bristow in Alias being put in the background for Jack and Vaughn to take centre stage? It boggles the mind. Peter and Walter weren't even devleoped enough so to give them more screen time, Fringe did the worst thing possible- it repeated their boring 'pieces of my brain/Im not whole' storyline over and over and over and over. I wanted to poke my eyes out.

    Not only that but the show ended with Peter. Wtf? No wonder Anna Torv had very few positive things to say this season.

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      cub so with you on this.

      January 21, 2013 at 7:29AM EST
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      Qwerty I agree. The father and son thing, crazy scientist, meh. Been there done that.

      January 23, 2013 at 9:20AM EST
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      guest Olivia was there this season, she just had a much different role to previous seasons, that's all. There were no cases for her to deal with, which was her major role in the other seasons. They concentrated on her personal development, but I guess that's not important. It was the underlying theme for all the characters. It was quiet but it was there and I was glad to see them exploring that side of Olivia this season.

      January 28, 2013 at 9:52PM EST
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    Danny

    When Olivia sees a picture of Fauxlivia Lincoln and a boy, was that Lincoln's son or Peter's? Wouldn't he have to be older than that if he was Peter's son? Or did Peter's son with Fauxlivia disappear in some sort of reset?

    January 19, 2013 at 2:24PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Rohit

    Regarding the tulip, Peter is the only character who remembers every thing from every time line. It all matters.

    January 19, 2013 at 2:25PM EST Reply to Comment
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