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'Big Brother' recap: Will Wil go -- or will Joe?

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Well, Frank (who is just too crazy good at these competitions -- take that, Comp Queen Janelle) controlled the house with both HOH and POV status, so Wil and Joe remain on the block. Yes, Frank could have tried to throw Dan under the bus, but Boogie prevailed. The alliances of the Silent Six and the Quack Pack are still in effect. Although I almost want Ian out just so I never have to hear Quack Pack used in a sentence again, although I suspect some fast food joint is already planning to use it for a chicken sandwich combo.

Anyway, let's check in with our nervous little hamsters. Wil is pissed! He gave Frank such a good idea, and he blew it! Meanwhile, Joe is already cooking. Literally. I realize that he thinks his delicious meals will give him safety in the house, but this is the mindset that never seems to pay off on any reality TV show. On "Survivor," it's all about being able to fish or make fire, and really, I think that just turns you into a target. Here, cooking well just makes your short-sighted housemates fat and compliant -- to the will of whoever is HOH, which is usually never the chubby person working the stove.

Britney is worried. Danielle is worried. Britney is going to give herself an ulcer this season, I swear. She tells Dan he NEEDS to win HOH, but Dan doesn't see it happening.

Joe talks to Ashley. Can he count on her vote? Ashley says maybe, which Joe realizes is "no way in hell" in reality TV talk. Joe would yell at her, but I think his voice is worn out from screaming in the interview room.

Up in the HOH suite, Dan talks to Frank. Frank decides honesty is the best policy (noooo!) and tells Dan he did think about back dooring him. But he didn't! So Dan should trust him, right! Dan nods, but in the interview room he reveals that he now knows Frank is a backstabbing snake waiting for an opportunity, so he'll try to shove him out the door first. Oh, Frank, what were you thinking? Of course, Dan doesn't see himself winning HOH anytime soon, so maybe Frank has nothing to worry about for a while.

Ashley, eager to get intel for Wil, asks Frank on an ice cream date. Ian is hurt! That's his firtmance! Ian is such a wuss. To paraphrase "Downton Abbey" (which is not something that comes immediately to mind when you're watching "Big Brother"), "She thinks that when she puts down a toy it will still be there when she wants it." Although the she in this case is Ian. Wimp. Ian should be worried, by the way. Ashley and Frank don't have ice cream, but booze. Ashley needs some manly testosterone! Frank tells her they can make out on the couch. She demurs. But Frank merrily informs her he's not joking. So they do make out on the couch! Ashley declares him Channing Tatum-esque. I think this could be a showmance, but only if Ashley gives it a push in that direction. Frank seems perfectly happy to have gotten a little somethin' - somethin' and that's about it.

Ian really hopes she doesn't make out with Frank. He thought they were exclusive! The only thing that would make this more amusing would be if Ian walked in on Ashley and Frank, but alas, it doesn't happen.

Wil asks Britney, Shane and Danielle what they're thinking. Hey, he'd love an alliance! They stare at him, blinking and silent like giant sloths. Awkward! Joe does the same thing, though, and gets a slightly more lively response. He's extremely loyal and cooks a lot! Britney seems to like this option. If Joe weren't so screamy, he'd be her dream teammate!

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Joe tells Dan he misses his kids and his wife, Sarah. He can't wait to get HOH so he can see them! Joe tells Dan he was dating his wife's mom before he met her. Just kidding! Her mom set her up, then corresponded with Joe for two months pretending to be Sarah. How Cyrano dDe Bergerac of her! Sarah and Joe have a 15-year-old girl, an 11-year-old boy and 10-year-old twins. Sarah, his wife, thinks he's so hot! The kids miss his cooking. At least someone appreciates his cooking. The family watches footage of the show. Not surprisingly, they HATE Boogie. Oh, and his son would like him to shave the white thing off his face. Me, too!

Sarah would like her husband to stop yelling in the interview room. Hey! Me, too! I'm liking Joe's family quite a bit, and I'm wondering if he acts more normal at home.

It's time for Jeff (of Jeff and Jordan fame) to stop by to chat with the Chenbot. He's played twice and didn't win. Would he go back? Well, kind of. He and Jordan just moved to Santa Monica! And yes, he has plans to buy her a ring. She gave him a deadline -- his birthday, June 5. Oooooh! I'm stunned that they have a more successful relationship than 90 percent of all competitors on "The Bachelor" and "The Bachelorette." Jeff thinks anyone could win this game, which is a useless non-answer which makes me think the Chenbot must be regretting inviting the guy to the set at all. Jeff notes that the strong players seem to go, so he's pulling for Ian. Really? Ian seems a little cerebral for Jeff, I have to say. Not that Ian has been playing a cerebral game, of course.

Oh, and since Jeff interviews evicted house guests for CBS.com, the Chenbot asks him to turn the tables. What kind of player would she be? Think Boogie meets Janelle. She'd constantly play everyone. She'd be Be Smooth Julie. I think I'm a little terrified of the Chenbot.

But enough of Jeff! It's time for the Chenbot to talk to the hamsters. She tells them a lot has happened in the world, so she's going to give them a current events pop quiz. Really? I don't think these guys followed current events before they went in the house, so why would they be able to guess what's going on in the world now? She could tell them Canada won Seattle in a bar bet, the Olympics are being held in 2013 and Obama was re-elected last month and they'd TOTALLY buy it. Anyway, the Chenbot fires off questions. So who's getting married -- Jennifer Aniston or Jennifer Lopez? They guess Lopez, but it's Aniston. Who won the most gold medals -- China or the US. Boogie guesses China, but he's wrong -- which just makes me happy. There was a big trade in the NBA -- Dwight  Howard was traded to… the Lakers. I am getting tired of the camera cutting to Boogie, who seems to think he has some psychic connection to the outside world. Then, the Chenbot gives them three possibilities and suggest there's just one right answer -- KPatz split, the Mars rover roved and the first female reffed an NFL game. But aha! Not just one is correct! They're all true! Everyone is shocked! About Kristen Stewart, not that other stuff.

Finally, it's time for Wil and Joe to plead for leniency. Wil feels he's in a win-win situation. He loves his new friends, but if he goes home, he gets to be with his awesome family and friends. He loves and adores everyone! Wil knows he's going home. Joe assures everyone he's taking human whispering classes. And he's not playing a Sharon Osbourne game. I think he's trying to be funny, but this is so convoluted and weird, no one seems to know what to do.

Ashley votes… to evict Joe.
Boogie votes… to evict Wil. And waves to his kid.
Danielle votes… to evict Wil. She does so sadly, however.
Jenn votes… to evict Joe.
Dan votes… wait, he tells Chenbot she's beautiful. Again. He votes to evict Wil.
Britney votes… to evict Wil.
Shane votes… to evict Wil. After noting Julie looks very beautiful. Wil is going home.
Ian votes… to evict Wil.

Ian really needs to remove the shirt he's wearing and burn it. Anything that emphasizes man boobs on a skinny guy is a bad thing.

The verdict is delivered, and Wil takes his  hair out of a ponytail and hugs everyone before heading outside to talk to the Chenbot.

The Chenbot asks the usual questions. Why does he think he was ousted? Will thinks he was seen as a bigger threat than Joe. Well, yes. So is a sofa or a throat lozenge. The Chenbot asks why he didn't lie to Boogie and Frank. He wanted to be real! Oh, Wil, you were just in a bad, bitchy mood, admit it.

We watch the farewell videos. Joe is initially gracious, then gloating. Yeah, not gracious, Big Loud Joe. Someone will try to choke you with a breaded chicken cutlet if you keep with the crappy attitude. Dan tells Wil he would have liked to keep him in the game, but his emotions got the best of him. Ashley thinks he needed to kiss some butt. Or some Frank. Mmmmm, Frank. Boogie tells him he wished he could have coached him. The videos end, and the Chenbot tells Wil about the Silent Six. He knew it! Then Wil is shown the door. Waah-waah.

Time for the HOH competition! Fill a jug, remove a cork, blah blah blah. They have to walk on a slippery surface. Basically, the same damn challenge we've seen 100 times. I most vividly recall Jordan eating it on this one when it involved laundry soap. But this does have a nice twist. The hamsters have to carry fluid from one end of the field to the other, but they have three choices -- they can either try to fill a jug that offers safety to the winner, a jug that offers the HOH, or a jug that features the prize we all just Tweeted about. Anyway, America voted to tempt the hamsters with a $10,000 cash prize -- I Tweeted for the other option, which was a have-not pass for the rest of the season, but I guess the money is more tempting to these guys. I don't think they ever consider they'll have to cough up a major chunk of it in taxes.

Ian and a few other hamsters decide to crawl, but Joe (of all people) seems to be gliding along pretty quickly on two feet. Wait, take that back. No one's going all that fast. Well, we'll hear about who won this on the great Interwebs.

Next Thursday we have a double eviction! Talk about a good week to be HOH!

Before we wrap up, the Chenbot reports that only Boogie is trying for the money. Four of the hamsters are going for safety and four are going for HOH. I can probably guess who's going for what, can't you?

What did you think about the eviction? Who do you think will win HOH? Do you think you would have gone for the money, safety, or HOH?

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Liane Bonin Starr is an author, screenwriter and former writer for EW.com. Her byline has appeared in the Los Angeles Times, Variety and a lot of other places. Her last book was called "a scandalously catty, guilty pleasure" by Jane magazine. Expect the same from Starr Raving.
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    Darian

    Boogie is such a selfish bastard. THe only reason he wouldn't let Frank "Back-door" Dan was for his game not Franks. Why can't anybody get rid of him?

    Boogie only cares about the money. I will admit I am still kind of surprised that Boogie donated money to Ian during a "Coaches Competition."

    August 16, 2012 at 11:43PM EST Reply to Comment
    • Yes, but Boogie kept the biggest chunk - $6,000 - for himself in that Coaches' Competition. For someone who natters o about being a successful restaurateur, he acts like he's broke.

      August 17, 2012 at 12:24AM EST
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      Jobin Boogie had to give up the money in 6K, 3K, and 1K increments.

      Boogie is really the only one in a position to go for the cash grab every time though. He's already won the game, so there is no backlash on him for going for the money instead of trying to further himself in the game.

      The only other player who could make that same claim is Dan, but Dan's shtick is that he's this super competitive crazy person whos always looking to win.

      August 17, 2012 at 9:32AM EST
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      Darian Liane…Thanks you just proved my point. I don't trust him.

      August 17, 2012 at 11:39AM EST
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    Mulderism

    I disagree. I think Boogie is looking out for his players and he has definitely protected Frank.

    Remember Boogie came in to the game to be a coach - not a player. And he didn't vote to go in to the game either. The only coach who didn't vote that way. Whether that's just game play or true sincerity is anybody's guess but i think he's being sincere.

    And the fact he's playing for money makes it seem that he doesn't think he'll make it to the end. So he may as well come away with some cash since the coach's prize is gone.

    Glad to see Wil gone. He really seemed to have a chip on his shoulder and for some reason. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

    August 17, 2012 at 1:21AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Mike Yeah, I'd definitely agree with you on that, at least in terms of his chance to win, he might make the end game. Who is Boogie beating in the end? Britney, maybe? Ian? He loses to Shane, Dan, and Frank in a rout unless something drastic changes from now until the end, so he either needs to turn on the Silent Six quickly and drag someone like Jenn to the end, or he's gonna need to keep getting these cash prizes.

      August 17, 2012 at 8:19AM EST
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      Jobin I think it's a bit of a mixed bag.

      Boogie was looking out for Frank and himself, by convincing Frank to stick with the alliance.

      But Boogie and Frank also realize that if anyone tries to break up Boogie/Frank they are coming at Frank first.

      But it's Boogie's best interest to keep Frank in the game as long as possible, then he will be "alone" in the game after Frank is voted out, and others will be unlikely to target him because he's an old man who can't win anything.

      August 17, 2012 at 9:28AM EST
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      Darian Doesn't him going for the $ every time make him look greedy, and even predictable? He even told Julie in an interview that all he cared about was the $. He also said so in the Diary Room. Come on Boogie give somebody else a chance!

      August 17, 2012 at 11:30AM EST
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      Darian Oh and by the way he said that to Julie in front of everbody else. Why he isn't a target for everybody else yet I will never understand. Come on Idiots put him on the block…he is not looking out for your best interest. Just his

      August 17, 2012 at 11:34AM EST
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      Jobin I don't get it Darian, why do you have an issue with Boogie going for the money every time?

      It isn't like he's hiding his "always go for the money" thing, not that he could.

      Anyone else could easily go for the money in the comp they were having last night and beat old man Boogie if they chose to.

      August 17, 2012 at 12:52PM EST
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      Mulderism @Darian. By your logic every single person in the house is a greedy bastard because they are all trying to win $500,000.

      This is my third season so I've never seen Boogie play before so I don't have any preconceived notions of the guy. But I genuinely like him and respect his game. If the other houseguests are too scared or dumb to evict him then why shouldn't he make the most of it?

      August 17, 2012 at 1:28PM EST
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      Jobin Mulder - I think it's just that by now obnoxious Boogie in earlier seasons, and of the coaches they brought back his inclusion was the most shocking, because who wanted to see him play again?

      But he gives a good quote and the producers have their favorites, so of course he's back.

      I think the coaching setup for the season really hurt the alliance swapping you usually see a bunch of by now.

      There isn't really much intrigue or anyone to root for. Considering you have a 6 person alliance, then you have another large 5 (or 4?) person alliance to that is largely made up of the silent six.

      No one is really strategically dominating the game by making deals unfortunately.

      August 17, 2012 at 2:05PM EST
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      Darian Here's the problem you guys are not getting: I figure a chash prise would be a great concoulation prize if they don't win the entire thing, however, he already won money during a coaches competion.

      To gloat in front of everybody that you're going to soak up as much $ as possible is just greedy. Why don't the other's get a chance to pick up some $?

      OK so he gave some to Ian, that was nice, because let's face it, from what I can tell, Ian's just a floater anyway.

      I just think Boogie is arrogant, little bastard that needs to go. I mean look at what he did under Danielle's "command", he basically manipulated her decision. He admitted it in the DR!

      As far as Boogie coaching Frank up in the HOH Suite as pointed out during several previous blogs, the coaching is done, he shouldn't be trying to coach Frank anymore, they're enemies in this game. People were getting mad when Dad tried to coach Danielle after the reset, nobody's upset at any of Boogie's behavior?

      I missed Boogies previous season, so I can't compare how he played that game, but if it is anything like this season. He's seriously got something wrong with him!

      Just my oppinon do with it what you will!

      August 17, 2012 at 2:55PM EST
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      Jobin Darian,
      The money he won was for coming in like 2ndplace in the coachs comp, not like he had a choice in winning it. It was what 2nd place was getting, there wasn't any prize swapping, so he got 10K, and had to split it up in 6K, 3K, and 1K. Everyone in his spot would have taken the 6K. This was in no way a GREEDY act.

      He had to give 3K and 1K away. He wasn't giving it away because he could, they made him. He gave the 3K and 1K to the players on his team. Hardly see how this says anything about Boogie honestly.

      As Mulderism pointed out, Boogie is going for 10K now, instead of improving his chances (by winning HOH) of his current 1 in X chance at 50K for 2nd, or a 1 in X chance for 500K for 1st.

      Basically it just seems that you are upset because Boogie has been able to manipulate people so far in this game. Part of the game is maniuplating people, don't be bitter when someone does it, its lame. There is nothing "wrong" with Boogie, he's playing a game, lighten up.

      Boogie and Frank are clearly working together, and they are each other's most trusted person. They are hardly enemies at this point, though I'm sure at some point Boogie will attempt to turn on Frank, if Frank doesn't get voted off.

      Danielle is in a different situation, because she's more closely alligned with Shane than she is Dan.

      August 17, 2012 at 3:26PM EST
    • I think we've keyed into the Boogie Conundrum -- it's hard to tell what his motivation is. He came into this as a coach (and wanted to stay a coach), so he doesn't seem driven to win. But he's eager to scoop up money here and there, so money could be a motivation -- but he's probably losing money being away from his business (The Dolce Group -- which has had quite a bit of success) for so long, so that doesn't make much sense. Some players want to return to the game to rehab their image, but Boogie doesn't seem to care if he comes across as an ass from time to time. I honestly don't know if he even knows why he's in the house -- I guess he just likes to play. Even if it means being away from his kid -- which seems plain crazy to me.

      August 17, 2012 at 3:32PM EST
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      Mulderism Here's how I see it.

      Boogie deserves to be proud. He won an All-Star game against seasoned veterans. That's a great accomplishment that no one else can claim (assuming there haven't been any other All-Star games in the past).

      He proved he can win. Now he wanted to impart his skills to a newbie and coach them to the end. But that got taken away when the coaches became regular players.

      He was genuinely shocked that he wasn't put on the block by Danielle. Apparently the houseguests don't consider him a threat. So why not take advantage of their mistake by getting as much cash out of the deal as he can? The houseguests had the power to evict him and they didn't act. So it's their loss.

      The guy's still got it. He turned a situation where Frank was going to get voted out unanimously on its head and got Janelle voted out before she even knew what hit her. He's giving them every opportunity to evict him and they aren't doing it. So he'll gladly take their money.

      Greatest - player - ever.

      August 17, 2012 at 3:56PM EST
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      Mulderism ... and I love his quote.

      "This is the Big Brother house. You can bounce cheques!"

      August 17, 2012 at 3:58PM EST
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      Darian Jobin, I feel like you're comprehending my point. Is he going to go after every single penney that BB is offering? Do the other's not get a dime? Unless like Liane said he's doing it because he's losing wages at work. (Of course if that were the case I would have checked to see if I had enough paid vacation time to cover me if I went all the way to the finals if—it were me—before committing to this game.)

      But it's not just the money that bothers me about him, though it is a big part. I do have to disagree with Liane on one point though, We know he was highly P/O'd when it was revealed that the game was resetting. It seemed like he didn't want to be there afterwards. So I don't think that "he just likes to play"

      But like I said before, there technically are not more coaches in this game, so they should stop playing like there are. I think Dan finally came to this conclusion a week or so ago, when is Boogie. Plus Frank is eventually going to learn that Boogie's intentions are NOT to help Frank out, but to help himself! After all, like I said before when he *sabatoged* Danielle's game, he ran into a different room, in private, and took a bow to the camera, and then gloated in the DR.

      I am sorry, I just do not like Boogie, he irritates me to no end; and like I said, it's not just the $ issue though it is a large part of it. Brittney said in the have-not room that she knew Frank was going to win, because he's such a strong player, so they had to move to get him evicted, but nobody is trying to get Boogie evicted. I guess nobody sees him as a threat, which is a mistake. They are still playing under Dan's assumption that it's the coaches against the "novices", though we already know it's not that game.

      August 17, 2012 at 4:13PM EST
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      Mike @Mulder: I know you haven't watched most of the older seasons, so it's understandable, but let's not jump off the deep end here on Boogie being the best ever. He's great, no question, but his original partner in crime, Dr. Will, is not just the best BB player of all time, he's arguably the best reality show contestant of all time on any show, and until Boogie wins twice, there's no way he beats out The Evil Doctor. Watch BB2 and BB7 at some point, it's worth your time. Given Boogie's performance thus far this season, I might be inclined to move him ahead of Jun and Maggie, but unless Boogie crushes Dan this season, Dan is still 2, and unless he wins again, Dr. Will is still 1.

      August 17, 2012 at 4:39PM EST
    • @Darian, I do think that, since he's there, he enjoys manipulating the hamsters. That appears to give him a rush -- whatever his real motivations, he does seem to enjoy that element of playing. But I do think his decision to be in the house at all is just weird -- he has a brand new baby, and he's got a lot of restaurants up and running in L.A., Vegas, even Saudi Arabia. I'm guessing, despite the appearance of money grubbing, every day he spends in the Big Brother house is costing him money -- perhaps even the days when he wins $6,000 in a contest. Of course, I also don't know where the lawsuit against him stands -- http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/martin-singer-caught-middle-bizarre-reality-tvrestaurant-lawsuit-29717 -- maybe he just wanted to be incommunicado for a while.

      August 17, 2012 at 5:47PM EST
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      Mulderism @Mike. I haven't seen those seasons so I'll take you word for it regarding Dr. Will. According to Wikipedia Mike beat Will in the All-Stars game which is a pretty good accomplishment considering everyone had played before. He won in a 6-1 vote so the jury was almost unanimous. But I don't know the circumstances about how he got Will evicted.

      August 17, 2012 at 6:44PM EST
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      Darian Liane…I might have agreed with you pre-reset, but ever since his melt-down he's just become more & more unlikeable.

      August 17, 2012 at 6:55PM EST
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      Mulderism What meltdown? Are you sure you're talking about the right player? Maybe you're thinking of Willie....

      August 17, 2012 at 7:55PM EST
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      Mike Will got evicted at final 4 by the lovely lady that was just evicted last week, actually. Boogie won HoH, his plan was to take out Erika, but Janelle and Erika compared stories and found out that Chilltown had been playing them, so Janie voted Will out when she won the PoV. Boogie didn’t intend to take Will out there at all, he thought Janelle was going to vote out Erika (and that event is a big part of why Boogie was so anti-Janelle this season, particularly his gleefully cruel goodbye message to her).

      August 17, 2012 at 9:09PM EST
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      Darian Mulder…Go back and re-watch the episode where the reset happened. Boogie & Frank where both actually both pissed off when it was announced by Julie that it was going to happen. Boogie spent the next 2 days sulking, and told frank outside the following morning that he was even more pissed off then he was the day before. In fact Julie even pointed out that it seemed like he didn't want to be there after hearing the news, & wanted to know if he was alright.

      Like I said I never saw his previous season(s) so I cannot compare but this was the moment that my views on him changed.

      August 18, 2012 at 1:54PM EST
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      Darian BEsides saying that the only reason he gave Ian that $ was because he HAD to, doesn't really help you, it just proves my point. It just says that if he didn't HAVE to, he wouldn't. How is that not selfish?

      August 19, 2012 at 7:26PM EST
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      Mulderism So you're saying that if you were on BB and won money you'd give it all away? If you're ever on the show I hope I am too.

      And as for your earlier post, I wouldn't consider sulking for a few days the same as a meltdown. Not even close.

      August 20, 2012 at 12:26AM EST
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      Darian Mulder…No, but what I AM saying is that if I had already won some money, I wouldn't just go after every penny they are offering, it just looks bad; and I am not the only one who thinks so. Just go onto http://www.cbs.com/bigbrother and read the comments after Thursday's episodes. They are all saying the same things that I've been saying here, that he's a selfish, arrogant, egotistical bastard and they are not being criticized for it. Are they just as crazy as I am?

      I do not remember previous seasons giving away as much $ as they have this season. I cannot help but think that that's because they are trying to make it a fair shot, and Boogie is intentionally trying to take it away from them. Look at his attitude tonight during the H-O-H competition, when he went directly for the $, and never even considered H-O-H, or safety, and look where it got him. On the Block—FINALLY—it's about damned time somebody woke up and realized what was going on here. It only took all season!

      August 20, 2012 at 2:27AM EST
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      Mike Wait, the CBS fans don't like Boogie?! Stop the presses! Come on, of course they don't, he's playing the villain. It's all in the game. CBS fans also are negative towards other great characters like Will, Danielle Reyes, etc., not to mention people like Parvati, Tyson, Todd, Rob Cesternino, Johnny F'ing Fairplay (one of the best reality characters ever this side of Will Kirby and B. Rob), Richard Hatch, even Boston Rob back in the all-stars days on Survivor. Typically, for the types of fans that are going to post here, these type of more dynamic, interesting, three dimensional characters are the types of people that will be more well received, even if they are playing 'the bad guy' in the game. To me, a Machiavellian wannabe mafia don like Boston Rob, is substantially more compelling to me then a guy that wears tie dyed shirts and roars all the time like Rupert. And the same holds true here. A guy like Boogie... this totally arrogant, condescending, smug tool is great television to me. Things like Boogie losing that Coaches Competition to Janelle because he stepped off the beam before hitting the button because he wanted to celebrate, or his ludicrous goodbye message to Janelle, or even like this past week where he instantly goes for the money, are all hilarious examples of Boogie at his most grimy and smug, and also his most entertaining. I'd definitely prefer that any day of the week to the prototypical clean-cut good guy, but that's just me. If anything, that line of thinking even influences scripted television these days. Now you can't shake a stick without hitting a show where the lead character is at best an anti-hero, or at worst an actual villain.

      August 20, 2012 at 4:33PM EST

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