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helder_carvalho
Space Operas needed back on TV

With the unfortunate cancelation on SGU a few months ago the space opera genre is absent from TV for the first time since the debut of Star Trek The Next Generation. It was allways a niche genre but with F/X costs being lowering every year it is time for a new slate of space based TV shows. In the 90's there was golden age of Space Operas (Babylon 5, Star Trek TNG, DS9, Voyager, Space Above and Beyond, Androme, Lexx, etc), what changed since then?
This is a good time to revive one of these shows or even an older show, for example why not a remake of Babylon 5 or Blake's 7?

 
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cultstatus

Or come up with something new. Just do something, I need more space operas in my life.

 
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Or come up with something new. Just do something, I need more space operas in my life.

Robert Hewitt Wolfe (DS9, Andromeda, Dresden Files) is working on one for Syfy right now:

"After decades of war, the newly formed Unity Democracy orders a volatile mix of humans and trans-humans to lead the Starship Defender on an expedition in search of lost worlds requiring law and order."

It might even be enough to get me to pay for cable again.

 
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Originally Posted by cabri

Robert Hewitt Wolfe (DS9, Andromeda, Dresden Files) is working on one for Syfy right now:

"After decades of war, the newly formed Unity Democracy orders a volatile mix of humans and trans-humans to lead the Starship Defender on an expedition in search of lost worlds requiring law and order."

It might even be enough to get me to pay for cable again.

When/if this hits the airwaves, I'll be there. I thought Wolfe's Andromeda was quite promising (before he left and things went downhill IMO) so I'm curious to see what he can do.

I too would like to know what changed. Growing up, I was spoiled for choice; now, it seems like such shows aren't even being made, and the erstwhile Sci Fi channel is satisfied with making supernatural/science-fantasy. In an era with multiple shows about fairy tales, ghost hunters, pawn shops, storage lockers, and various procedural clones, is there really no room for this particular niche anymore?

 
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JC

Well, now that SyFy has declined to pick up Blood & Chrome, I guess I have my answer :(

 
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Personally I'm disgusted with tv these days, being a huge fan of scifi and genre programming, slim pickens would be putting it way too mildly! There are no programs on the air right now in first run that qualify as a "space opera" or even real science fiction programming, the syfy channel has been pretty much diminished to a reality tv channel with a few exceptions like Eureka, Warehoue 13, lost girl, and a couple other scripted shows that could loosely be thought of as ggenre programming, but I emphasize loosley! Not a "Space Opera on the air right now, and the only show I'd argue that is really a scifi show is Fringe! When the last batch of shows including the remake of V was cancelled all the networks cable and broadcast ran [didn't walk] away from the whole space opera genre, it seems that right now a decent "Space Opera" could clean up in the ratings as I know I'm not the only one that is craving a show like stargate, star trek, b ablon 5, etc. When is Star Trek coming to tv in the 21st century on tv? This is a sad state of affairs and needs to change quickly, I'm tired of having to go back to reruns in order get use out of my HDTV!

 
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I agree-The only very huge problem with that is the only avenue for such a show would be on the "SyFy" channel. And that is no longer a very good place. They only provide proficient funding for one show at a time - Back around 2000, this was FARSCAPE. But then "Sifi" decided Stargate SG1 was worth more, so they canned Farscape right before what would have been its best and 5th Season. They put a very bad "Tremors" show in its slot!

Lately, "SyFy" has been creating the worst abundance of crappy, cheesy shows. ILK. What we really need, is a Major Network to pick something up. But Science Fiction shows are ALWAYS a Risk, because even today, maybe only 20% of the population will watch these things even with heavy promotion.

Fox News may Suck, but as for shows, they choose programming diametrically opposed to their extreme news practices. And they have even taken big risks, with last year's Terra Nova and Alkatraz. It was just not the right time for either of those shows - Alkatraz was a lot like Fringe - Rife with mysteries and hidden plot lines - Terra Nova could have been great, but it was based on cliched use of Time Travel. If Terra Nova had been, rather, on a different planet that was in a geological age where Dinosaurs were the main Life Form, that would have been interesting, they could have played the two things out.

I don't see CBSNBCABC as being willing to do anything other than Cop/Prodeedural shows - CBS had a great show - The 11th Hour? It was great! But they poop-canned it after one season. Fox had Dollhouse in the Friday Night Deth Slot, that lasted 1 and a half seasons. I loved that show, it was great.

It is time for something wholly NEW. Someone will soon present an idea to a network, and it will be given a chance - And then, it is up to US to keep it on the air.

FRINGE has been lucky to have fans that have supported it almost wholeheartedly-The show got scragged at first, but if you look through the history of critical and user-created reviews, it soon became a beloved show.

Just like Star Trek: The Next Generation - Which had a weak first few episodes, I was VERY soon hooked like a gurgling fish!

But the thing people forget about ST:TNG and Babylon 5 and then later Deep Space 9: Which was probably the greatest Trek show ever - THESE were broadcast on SYNDICATED stations. And because of that, they got away scott free with all kinds of stuff that never would have went down on Network. And you can see the instant gagging of Trek with "Voyeccher" - Which was a good show, but UPN Gagged it. And then "Enterprise" - Well, that was Rick Berman running the franchise into the Ground - And Brannon Braga's insulting series finally for Enterprise, that was when the show was taken away from Berman and given to JJ Abrams. Which was the best thing that could have ever happened to it - Because Abrams, he RESPECTED all of what came before, and homaged it with every scene in his reboot.

So, if Abrams does a new Trek Franchise show, I'll be behind him all the way just like I was behind Berman, who did do a good job until Enterprise.

 
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