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Game of Thrones, "The Ghost of Harrenhal" discussion for book readers
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Once again, we're going to try to confine all discussion of George R.R. Martin's books to the message boards, so that people who haven't read them won't be spoiled in the review comments. I'll link to my review of "The Ghost of Harrenhal" once it's up, and feel free to discuss it within the context of all the books so far.

 
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It would be great if you had a blog for those who want to understand things that are happening a little more clearly -- in advance of the show or as an episode is playing. Did you see the full chart on the last South Park?

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Here's the review link: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/review-game-of-thrones-the-ghost-of-harrenhal-three-deadly-wishes

 
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darthzombie
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I must say I am getting worried about the Arya plotline. I thought it was a mistake of her not killing a major player in the war, but that was born out of her first two choices being people that were directly causing her harm witch coupled with the fact that she is an 11 year old girl(a bamf of one) I forgave her for not offing Tywin, Joffrey, Cersie or even the Mountain. But in the show she is in direct contact with Tywin and after the last scene with her where she says to Tywin that anyone could die is almost directly foreshadowing something that won't happen. Oh and also killing the Tickler here instead of Weese a character not introduced on the show we are being robbed of a great Arya scene when she kills the Tickler repeatedly stabbing him and scream asking him if there is gold in the village!

 
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Oh another thing, so what is going to happen Ned Stark remains, since in the book they arrive in Riverrun and not brought to Cat at Renly's camp, but really in the long run it might not matter knowing what the fate of (major spoiler next) Winterfell by season's end...

 
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I must say I am getting worried about the Arya plotline. I thought it was a mistake of her not killing a major player in the war, but that was born out of her first two choices being people that were directly causing her harm witch coupled with the fact that she is an 11 year old girl(a bamf of one) I forgave her for not offing Tywin, Joffrey, Cersie or even the Mountain. But in the show she is in direct contact with Tywin and after the last scene with her where she says to Tywin that anyone could die is almost directly foreshadowing something that won't happen. Oh and also killing the Tickler here instead of Weese a character not introduced on the show we are being robbed of a great Arya scene when she kills the Tickler repeatedly stabbing him and scream asking him if there is gold in the village!

Yeah, I'm not sure how it will justify her not asking for Tywin's death (or Joffrey's or Cersei's). Also, I have to admit I can't seem to remember who the second death was.

 
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Yeah, I'm not sure how it will justify her not asking for Tywin's death (or Joffrey's or Cersei's). Also, I have to admit I can't seem to remember who the second death was.

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Oh upon further research into remembering Weese was the second, the first was Chiswyck. A soldier of the Mountain who kicks Arya in the face and tells a story laughing about the gang rape of an innkeeper's daughter.

 
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Oh upon further research into remembering Weese was the second, the first was Chiswyck. A soldier of the Mountain who kicks Arya in the face and tells a story laughing about the gang rape of an innkeeper's daughter.

I am realizing I remember the least amount of small details from Clash of Kings and need to use towerofthehand.com to remind me more than I did for Game of Thrones or probably will for my favorite in the series A Storm of Swords...

 
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Apparently I am conversing mainly itch myself on here, but I am sad that they seem to have cut the Damphair, Theon uncle, I enjoyed his fanatical devotion to the Drowned God, and his and Theon's relationship. Though I guess he is not really important till the Kingsmoot takes place in AFfC...

 
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Apparently I am conversing mainly itch myself on here, but I am sad that they seem to have cut the Damphair, Theon uncle, I enjoyed his fanatical devotion to the Drowned God, and his and Theon's relationship. Though I guess he is not really important till the Kingsmoot takes place in AFfC...

Freaking auto-correct that should say with not itch*

 
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Major spoilers below, so ye be warned...

I must say I am getting worried about the Arya plotline. I thought it was a mistake of her not killing a major player in the war, but that was born out of her first two choices being people that were directly causing her harm witch coupled with the fact that she is an 11 year old girl(a bamf of one) I forgave her for not offing Tywin, Joffrey, Cersie or even the Mountain. But in the show she is in direct contact with Tywin and after the last scene with her where she says to Tywin that anyone could die is almost directly foreshadowing something that won't happen. Oh and also killing the Tickler here instead of Weese a character not introduced on the show we are being robbed of a great Arya scene when she kills the Tickler repeatedly stabbing him and scream asking him if there is gold in the village!

However, I would say that in the show it's in her best interests currently that Tywin stay alive. Maybe she's smart enough here to realize that he's holding her back from some horrible things, and she could stand to learn a lot from him as a bit of a "spy."

About the tickler, he didn't come off nearly as menacing in the show as he did in the books. But of course in the books you witness his cruelty over and over for quite some time.

I am missing a lot of what makes Arya my favorite character in the books, but I do believe they are still getting her to the same place, just in slight different ways that can "move" faster.

 
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