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Will Netflix cutting out the middle man lead more viewers to cut the cord?

What happens if the service starts producing its own content?

Will Netflix cutting out the middle man lead more viewers to cut the cord?

Adam Scott on "Party Down," a show that wasn't a Netflix original production, even though some thought it was.

Credit: Starz

During the brief, glorious run of the catering comedy "Party Down," I encountered very few people who actually watched the show on Starz. (Which is the reason the run was so brief, if glorious.) Most watched it via Netflix's streaming video service. One person I met was even surprised to learn that "Party Down" was available anywhere but Netflix.

That's an extreme case involving a microscopically-rated show, but the ubiquity of Netflix Instant - particularly for people who have Blu-Ray players, video game consoles or other devices that allow them to stream movies and TV shows directly to their TV sets - is becoming a real threat to the traditional TV business. Why bother spending a lot of money for a cable subscription - and/or why bother trying to watch any show live, with commercials - when there are thousands upon thousands of hours of fine shows available to stream on whatever schedule is most convenient for you?

The growth of Netflix, and the rise of both cheap TV downloads on iTunes and Amazon and ad-supported streaming sites like Hulu, have created a situation where you can watch many of the best shows on TV without actually needing cable - or even a TV. And that makes it easier and easier, particularly in these budget-conscious times, for people to "cut the cord" (to borrow the phrase most TV execs use to describe this phenomenon) and just use their computers and other devices to live an On Demand TV existence.

One of the things standing between Netflix and complete media domination is the idea that they're a content distributor but not a content supplier. They make it possible to watch other people's shows and movies, and with the exception of things like the Starz deal (where that channel's shows become available on Netflix at the same time they're airing on TV), most of their content is older stuff. (You can watch previous seasons of "The Office" on Netflix, but have to go to NBC, or an NBC-affiliated property like Hulu, to see the current season.)

And all of that may be about to change with the news that Netflix is negotiating to acquire its first big-budget first-run scripted series: "House of Cards," adapted from a British miniseries and backed by Kevin Spacey, David Fincher and other big names. If the deal goes down - and isn't, as the Wall Street Journal speculates, just a feint to get leverage in ongoing negotiations with traditional media companies - then it's a potentially enormous move. Already, there are people who think of Netflix as no different from HBO back in the day: a place to watch favorite old movies and shows on a continual loop. But if they start producing their own shows that (unlike "Party Down") really aren't available anywhere else, then they become like HBO circa "The Sopranos": a rich, restraint-free platform that doesn't have to play by the rules of traditional television, provides added value for subscribers and one more reason for those subscribers to turn away from the networks.

And if this deal does go through, and "House of Cards" is successful, then it opens up the question of how many other shows can be made and successfully marketed outside traditional means. There's obviously the question of promotion, where Netflix has a large subscriber base but not the history of marketing new content directly to them in the way that the broadcast networks or HBO have been able to do for so long. If Netflix were to go hardcore into original programming, I'd be curious to see how many of those shows would be able to rise above the clutter of the many pre-existing shows and movies on the service, and how many will just fall between the cracks. Remember those heady turn-of-the-millennium days when original web series were going to be the hot new thing until no one figured out how to bring a big enough audience along to pay for anything good?

So there are a lot of variables here, but the possibilities are fascinating. As Poniewozik noted in his own take on the story, for instance, Netflix producing its own shows might eliminate the problem of shows that don't fit the brand of a particular network, an issue that was brought up after the failures this season of "Lone Star" and "Terriers."

What I wonder most, though, is what will be the tipping point for most people before they're willing to cut the cord and just let the Internet supply TV shows and movies for them. Cutting the cord is still a fairly small phenomenon, though it's over-represented among the readership of a site like this. For those of you who ditched your cable, I'm curious what the Eureka moment was when you realized you could do it and not miss much. And for those of you who still get most of your TV the traditional way, what would you need in order to abandon cable, pull down the satellite dish, etc?

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    Sean

    With AT&T imposing a 150GB and other companies possibly following in suit, there's eventually going to come a time when streaming content takes too much bandwidth.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:03PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Sean But, poop?

      March 16, 2011 at 1:38PM EST
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      Natalie I think this is the bigger issue, honestly...particularly when you've got cable companies who are also in the Internet business.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:53PM EST
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      joel Yep, you're right. When a couple cable telcos have a monopoly on 90% of the bandwidth users are consuming AND the internet starts experiencing really painful growing pains (both projected to occur within the next year), people are going to discover that streaming services aren't the answer. It will be interesting to see if Netflix works out a compromise or gets crushed in the grind between telcos and Hollywood.

      March 16, 2011 at 5:05PM EST


  • For me the answer lies in sports. The main thing for me is live sports. If ESPN3 and other large networks continue towards streaming live sporting events and the quality of the video continues to get better, I would consider cutting the cord. So many shows I watch are already on Hulu and Netflix.

    Also add cooking shows to the list that need to be streamed. The girlfriend lives for Food Network

    March 16, 2011 at 1:06PM EST Reply to Comment
    • Bingo. Its the live sports. With MLB blacking out all of canada for Blue Jays games online, the only way to watch is if you have cable.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:12PM EST
    • Agree with this. If I could get live sports consistently and reliably, I'd flee Xfinity like that.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:15PM EST
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      Bill Ah, but you see, all you have to do as the cable company is tie ESPN3 access to having a cable subscription, not just internet. $*@#*@* Time Warner.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:17PM EST
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      Tony Agreed. Only reason I haven't cut the cord yet is due to sports. And I believe both the NHL Gamecenter and MLB.tv subscriptions that are available online black out the local games in local markets.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:38PM EST
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      Sloshkosh I'm probably the worst example of someone who SHOULD cut the cord, but just can't. Sports keeps me tied to live cable, but I still have Hulu Plus and Netflix. I guess when it comes down to it, I want to be able to watch every show I like exactly when and how I want - sure I pay wayyyy too much monthly, but I'm going to spend it on something anyway.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:49PM EST
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      Alex I think with Apple TV's entre into the online sports world with their MLB.tv and NBA deals, it makes it a lot easier. NFL you can get OTA on HD with a $20 antenna and other nefarious means if you look hard enough. I think the only people who would have an issue are college sports fans, since a bulk of those games are strictly on cable.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:52PM EST
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      WS I haven't had cable in 6 years, but the one reason I still consider getting it is for sports. Regular season is getting easier, as I have a Roku player and MLB, NBA, and NHL all offer pay channels through Roku that offer me even more regular season games than just a cable subscription (since the teams I'm a fan of aren't considered "local"). But if you've noticed, even the NCAA tournament is now showing some of its games on cable channels, as are good chunks of the NBA, MLB, and NHL playoffs.

      I'd be willing to pay a small fee (say $15-20 a month) to either ESPN or Time Warner for access just to ESPN 3.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:16PM EST
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      Chrissy We recently switched from Comcast to FIOS, and cutting the cord was discussed. My dad did it and loves it (but he's a gadget nut). Sports ended up being the deciding factor for us as well. I also prefer to pay once for everything I want, rather than per item like on iTunes.

      March 16, 2011 at 7:52PM EST
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      WhatTheFDidIDo This is why I love Charter Internet. I have their internet plus (18mbps) for 39.98 a month, but that also comes with free access to espn3.com and epixhd.com. Epixhd.com has like 1500 movies to stream and 150 in HD.

      March 17, 2011 at 9:26PM EST
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    Eric

    Write a comment...

    March 16, 2011 at 1:06PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Sean At least I AM the poop. Not FOUR OF THEM.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:39PM EST
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    rdm

    I have tried cutting the cord before, and going with only internet. Problem is, no company in my area offers much of a discount if you cut one or the other. It's a total scam in order to boost subscribers.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:06PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Miken

    If I didn't like every sport imaginable, I would've already cut the cord. Hell, if I thought I could just live with basketball, I could buy the online streaming. But I watch too many sports so I'm not sure this will ever be an option for me.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:07PM EST Reply to Comment


  • My younger brother is among those that have cut the cord. He loves it (and loves to boast about it)...until he has to retreat to the cable of his girlfriend's apartment to watch Monday Night Football or college basketball.

    While you can watch a lot of sports online, local blackout rules will keep people plugged in.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:08PM EST Reply to Comment
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    anthonystrand

    I've had cable my whole life, and I still do. But I'm getting married in July, and for the past year or so I've spent far more time at my fiancee's house than my own. She doesn't have cable (or even broadcast, since she never got a digital converter box). And I've found that for the most part, I don't miss it. We have so much other stuff to watch on DVD.

    That said, I do still have a DVR over at my place. But I mostly use it to record movies from TCM anyway. So if we get Netflix after we're married, that would largely negate the need for TCM.

    I sure will miss it though.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:08PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Chris

    For me, the only thing keeping me from canceling DirecTV is sports. If ventures like ESPN3 can grow enough, cutting the cord and migrating to Nexflix/Hulu/Amazon will be quite easy.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:09PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Graham

    If Netflix can deliver live streaming content of Sports/News, then I would love nothing more than to "cut the cord". But I don't think that is happening anytime soon.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:11PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Gregsauce

    Live TV (i.e. sports programming) is what keeps me from cutting the cord. I don't mind watching the rest of TV by way of the internet, Netflix, or DVDs.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:12PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Ryan

    I've been cable-less for about two years now, and I'm not thinking about re-subscribing any time soon. There is so much good stuff available on broadcast, Netflix and Hulu, that it's not worth the extra 50+ bucks per month. For sports... there are bars.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:14PM EST Reply to Comment
    • Yeah, but if you're watching two three games a month, that will easily run over a $50 bar tab. I get the communal experience but sometimes you just don't want to put on pants.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:44PM EST
    • Don't you hate pants?!!

      March 17, 2011 at 8:08AM EST
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    ZacharyTF

    Like others here, I would cut out cable if it wasn't for sports.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:20PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Adam

    I still watch most of my television via Verizon Fios, but I have "cut the cord" on a couple of shows and just wait to watch the show after the season is done on Netflix instant streaming.

    Speaking for myself, I'm still biased towards watching it on television for a couple of reasons. The first is the quality, while Netflix has made strides in this area, the HD image and sound quality on Fios is much better than the Netflix instant streaming. The sharpness and sound quality are important to me although I understand some people don't mind the difference. The second reason is my impatience. I'm not patient enough to wait for an entire season to air before I start watching for the shows I really care about. Lastly, if everyone goes off just watching the show when its convenient to them, you lose out on the fun water cooler talk discussion and speculation about last nights big show that certain shows can create (ie Lost).

    So to sum it up, for me to drop my Fios and go to instant streaming exclusively, Netflix would need to improve the quality and have more deals like the Starz deal where the shows air as they air on live television so that I can watch them as they become available.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:21PM EST Reply to Comment


  • Like a few other commenters, sports would keep me from cutting the cord. If I had to pay for baseball, football and hockey, it may cost me more than my current cable bill. There are original shows on HBO, like Boardwalk Empire, Real Sports and other documentarys. How much is that going to cost me. I don't know if you can watch any FX shows like justified on line. I would not cut cable if I couldn't watch Justified. I am sure there are other shows I am missing, but the cost of watching would have to be less than my cable bill.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:22PM EST Reply to Comment


  • I'm not a big sports junkie so that isn't keeping me from cutting the cord but I watch the crap out of my TV over a variety of stations. I was hopeful that the current iteration of Apple TV would be app-enabled and that premium channels like HBO and Showtime would be able to release apps to get their content to consumers outside of the cable system but that didn't happen. While Hulu has a majority of the shows I watch available with a HuluPlus subscription, I won't jump ship until I can get everything.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:22PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Jeff

    Live Sports. I want ESPN3.com as an app on my PS3, ala Hulu Plus, Netflix & Vudu. (PS3 browser sucks, for those who don't know). I want mlb.tv to stop blacking out local games (add the NBA & NFL to that wish). If I pay for a sports package, no local or National broadcast blackouts.
    Ideally, my subscription would look like this:
    16.99/month for Netflix Instant + 2 BD's at a time
    8.99/month for Hulu Plus
    99.00/year for MLB (all local games w/home announcers + all playoff games)
    99.00/year for NBA(same rules as MLB)
    The NFL wouldn't be worth 3-400/year for 16 games, as they are all available on broadcast networks in HD.
    That works out to 42.48/month. I'd be ok with that.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:25PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Robin I'd pay for that exact package (minus the NBA). I'm lucky that there is still a strong local affiliate in Chicago to get baseball games, but I know I'm screwed when I move and I want to watch the local team without cable.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:51PM EST


  • I "cut the cord" for the most part about a year ago. For sports, I only watch football and the occasional baseball game, so while baseball is difficult, football is all on broadcast. The way Comcast structures their pricing, it was basically the same price for me to go "no cable at all with Internet full price" and "basic / local cable only plus discounted 'bundle' Internet". So I have all my local channels, in HD without having to worry about an antenna. It's really a win/win.

    I definitely miss some cable-only stuff. Lots of the Discovery programming in particular. And I end up having to buy Mad Men and Breaking Bad on Amazon, which is a bummer.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:27PM EST Reply to Comment
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    njf

    I understand the limits on sports and news live streaming. But this is improving. For example, one can link to Al Jazeera and BBC live news through one of the services on the Roku device (cant get Al Jazeera on most cable packages, and was great during the Egyptian uprising). And you can also get most podcasts of many news shows. And the entire NCAA basketball tourney is being streamed live through another of the free services on the Roku device. The constant expansion of services on things like Roku seems to me just to be the beginning of an inevitable web-linked Television service. The question is whether the cost will remain as low as it currently is (I pay less than 20/mo. for Netflix plus Hulu through the Roku device).

    March 16, 2011 at 1:27PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Teresa

    Considering I have a Roku now, and I can watch almost everything I love either online or through here, it would be all too easy to cut the cord. The only thing holding me back is the ability to watch sports... and even that is almost solely football, as I have MLBtv, so I watch that through Roku. Almost all college basketball can be seen online. So really, it's access to football. Well that and Mad Men. I don't think that's available online anywhere.

    For budget reasons, cutting the cord would be good for me. But I haven't been able to do it. Maybe the NFL lockout will be just the thing...

    March 16, 2011 at 1:28PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Chilton Just buy a $20.00 antenna and you can watch HD football over the air.

      March 23, 2011 at 10:41AM EST
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    nfish

    I understand the limits on sports and news live streaming. But this is improving. For example, one can link to Al Jazeera and BBC live news through one of the services on the Roku device (cant get Al Jazeera on most cable packages, and was great during the Egyptian uprising). And you can also get most podcasts of many news shows. And the entire NCAA basketball tourney is being streamed live through another of the free services on the Roku device. The constant expansion of services on things like Roku seems to me just to be the beginning of an inevitable web-linked Television service. The question is whether the cost will remain as low as it currently is (I pay less than 20/mo. for Netflix plus Hulu through the Roku device). So its pretty good.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:29PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Eric

    I don't think Netflix will be very successfull doing it's own shows, because, I think, people still like watching tv on tv. But a more interesting possibility is for Netflix to continue producing series' that have been cancelled by the networks. For exmaple if a show like Parks and Rec gets cancelled by NBC, NBC and Netflix could work out a deal to have it broadcast solely on Netflix.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:30PM EST Reply to Comment
    • The point made early in the article is that Netflix is ON people's TVs now, way more than ever before. PS3, BluRay players, etc, all have Netflix streaming capabilities directly to your TV.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:33PM EST
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      Marianne M. I could see Netflix doing something like the Friday Night Lights Directv deal. I think as many or more people would follow the series on Netflix as on Directv's special channel.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:34PM EST
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      chudleycannonfodder Netflix offering their own shows could be done through DVD, so people could be watching them on tv.

      March 16, 2011 at 8:19PM EST
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    Bobman

    For me, I "cut the cord" for the most part about a year ago. For sports, I only watch football and the occasional baseball game, so while baseball is difficult, football is all on broadcast. The way Comcast structures their pricing, it was basically the same price for me to go "no cable at all with Internet full price" and "basic / local cable only plus discounted 'bundle' Internet". So I have all my local channels, in HD without having to worry about an antenna. It's really a win/win.

    I definitely miss some cable-only stuff. Lots of the Discovery programming in particular. And I end up having to buy Mad Men and Breaking Bad on Amazon, which is a bummer.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Joshua

    My girlfriend and I cut the cord this year, mainly because we started a new workout schedule and never had time to watch TV any more. And we figured out that the only show we watch on cable right now is Top Chef, which is available on iTunes. With Breaking Bad and Mad Men not returning for a while, it'll be interesting to see how long it lasts.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:35PM EST Reply to Comment
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    christy

    I almost never watch sports, and my cable bill is really high, so I'm a pretty good candidate for this. Also there's the fact that my internet connection is much more reliable than my DVR, even though they are provided by the same company. I'd have to sit down and do the math and the logistics. I like to watch things when they're new so I can be part of the conversation, even though I do go back and catch up on things that slip through the cracks. I'd have to look at:

    1. Shows I watch that are available for free pretty much instantly (hulu, network websites),
    2. Shows I watch that are available for a fee pretty much instantly (iTunes, which has saved me from Mad Men DVR fail on occasion)
    3. Shows I watch that really aren't available until they go to DVD. (HBO/Showtime? If there's a way for a non-subscriber to legally get these online soon after they air, it's not apparent to me).

    The #2 category probably has few enough shows that the cost savings would be pretty big over time. I'd just have to think about whether I could sacrifice the immediate gratification for the #3 shows.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:36PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Erin This is a perfect summary of my situation, too. My husband and I have had several conversations about cutting the cord -- we'd really like to reduce/eliminate our huge cable bill -- but we'd miss HBO, especially, and we're just not sure if we'd be able to watch the shows we love when they're on, not just when the DVD comes out.

      I also worry about our internet connection. We have a wireless connection at home that's constantly cutting out, and I don't know how it would perform with streaming TV shows.

      But I have to think that the solution to all my concerns is right around the corner; it certainly seems like the technology is inevitably moving in this direction, and I fully expect that in 5 years we won't have cable as it exists today.

      March 17, 2011 at 1:52PM EST
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    benjiep

    If Netflix does start producing content, don't be surprised if other content producers pull their deals with Netflix. Look at what happened to Google TV. Most content producers are major media companies and will do what it takes to kill Netflix if they see it as a viable threat.

    And just having internet isn't really cutting the cord. The same companies, for the most part, control the pipes. If we all get rid of cable and our internet usage goes way up, they'll just charge us more for internet. Personally I see us having metered internet similar to what we have for gas/water/power.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:37PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Robert

    I never cut the cord as I never owned a TV after leaving for college. And while I used to Bittorrent, I no longer do because I can now get every show on Netflix and Hulu. I might have to wait a bit sometimes, but I see no reason to buy a TV and cable subscription.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:38PM EST Reply to Comment
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    ColumbusRazor

    How many Nielsen families have Netflix? Ha, ha.

    I lead with a joke but the quandary is real: How would the 'ratings' be assessed? Pure 'hits?' Who audits Netflix's views? I welcome something completely outside the Ratings System, if only because it may be a big salvo in the Do-Away-With-Nielsen battle.

    I do digress. I did want to make the observation that Netflix will probably go through the usual growing pains of being an Original Programming provider: When faced with the question "To swear or not to swear?" The answer will be to pepper the script with 4-letter words, to the detriment of the end product.

    Just because you *can* swear, doesn't mean you always have to. I'm not a prude by any means (my love of The Wire & The Shield are well documented), but I remember being surprised at hearing the word 'shit' so much on "Saving Grace." Let's be honest, "Sons of Anarchy" says it twice as often as necessary. I think shit is Kurt Sutter's favorite noun. AND his favorite verb.

    And you know there's gonna be lots of tits and ass. Starz learned their lesson from Party Down and added the skin quotient to Spartacus.

    This Netflix thing sounds like an interesting experiment. I just pray it's more substance than style.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:38PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Dryden

    I cut the cord after trying Hulu Plus. All the network shows I like, plus many entire series of shows I'd want to get on blu-ray (X-Files, Buffy, etc.). The ad before a show is five seconds, and there's one thirty second spot between act breaks. I can live with that! Especially now that Criterion has hit Hulu and I can watch their movies in HD with no ads.

    I have an HD antenna to pick up the over-the-air channels I get (I suppose I'm just lucky to live in an area with almost a dozen HD channels). Do I miss Food Network and Discovery Channel? I guess, but there's no way I'm going back to a $120 DirectTV package. I still prefer watching sports live with friends in a bar. I thought I could never live without cable but now I wonder why I put up with it so long.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:39PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Bryan

    With all the "live sports" people (count me among them), why not do an HD antenna? Are we talking Sunday Ticket? TNT NBA stuff? Local baseball broadcasts? (I'm a Sunday Ticket enthusiast, but the price of that thing has become freaking insane.)

    Just as important for me is first-run watercooler shows like Top Chef, Archer, Louie, Breaking Bad, etc. Just writing it down and comparing it to my cable bill, though, makes that seem like a lot of $$ for not a lot of content, though ...

    March 16, 2011 at 1:43PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Nick With an HD antenna I wouldn't all the games. For my Lakers I would only get road games as the home games are on cable. Plus the ESPN/TNT broadcasts.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:53PM EST
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    elizs

    It's been almost a year since I cut cable, and the only thing I really miss is TCM. The classic films available for streaming on Netflix are okay, but there's not as much quality fare as I would like. Still, I'm more than making do with Hulu and Netflix (and network TV). I'm watching way more PBS than I used to.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:44PM EST Reply to Comment
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      elizs oh, and the original series that this remake will be based on is already streaming on Netflix! Def. worth a watch.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:45PM EST
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      Ovid You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

      March 16, 2011 at 4:56PM EST
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