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'The Walking Dead' - 'Wildfire': Disease control

Season one's penultimate episode takes a sharp and fascinating left turn from the comics

<p>Rick (Andrew Lincoln) reaches out to a friend on "The Walking Dead."</p>

Rick (Andrew Lincoln) reaches out to a friend on "The Walking Dead."

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A review of tonight's "The Walking Dead" coming up just as soon as I watch the boat...

"We're at the ragged edge here. We need relief." -Rick

Interesting. Very, very interesting.

Even more than last week's episode, "Wildfire" has me thinking I might want to stick with "The Walking Dead" for a good while, in spite of some reservations I've expressed in previous reviews. And it was two sequences - one near the beginning, and one near the end - that have me firmly on the hook.

The early one was Andrea's overnight vigil over her sister's body. At first, it comes across as mania, or denial, or some other form of overwrought but understandable grief. But then Amy starts to wake up, and it becomes clear that Andrea has simply been waiting for this moment. She wants to see her sister's body come to life one more time - even if it's now an unthinking zombie who only resembles Amy physically - and apologize to her and say her goodbyes And for a brief moment, the zombie curse doesn't seem such a horrible thing. She wanted to say goodbye to Amy, and then she wanted to be sure she was the one to end her suffering once and for all, with the gun Rick taught her to handle back in the second episode. Just a fantastic scene, so well-played by Laurie Holden, written by Glen Mazzara and directed by Ernest Dickerson. This is the kind of moment about the human cost of the apocalypse that should be the show's bread and butter, and was the strongest of an episode featuring several others, like the long goodbye to Jim by the side of the road.

The late one was the montage of Noah Emmerich as the last surviving CDC scientist, alone in this giant facility, trying and failing to come up with a cure to the plague. Not only was it a very effective sequence on its own merits (I've always liked Emmerich, going back to "Beautiful Girls"), but it was the show's most extreme departure yet from the stories the comic was telling at this point(*). This may not matter to people who didn't read the comic - and it also may be annoying to people who liked the comic more than I did and would prefer Frank Darabont and company get back to those stories and the characters who have yet to be introduced - but I like the sense that the show is going to keep me on my toes. When I interviewed Darabont at  Comic-Con, he said the plan was to follow the Kirkman path but take detours along the way. This looks like a pretty big detour, but it's also a logical one. Given that we're starting out with these people in such close proximity to Atlanta, why wouldn't they visit the CDC and hope that someone there might have a solution - or, at the very least, might have a more secure facility than their sketchy camp by the quarry?

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(*) I have no idea if Kirkman eventually told a story like this after I stopped reading, but please keep in mind the anti-spoiler rules I'm going to list at the bottom of this post, okay?

And beyond those two highlight points, I just liked the sense of desperation everyone has the morning after the zombie attack on the camp. Everyone is filthy and tired and confused and angry, and while I side with Rick over Shane on the field trip issue - without those guns, four extra men wouldn't have done a lot of good against that many zombies - it's understandable why everyone would be at odds, and be dealing with their grief in different ways. Glenn cries and insists on separating the human bodies from the zombie ones. Carol takes out her frustration on her dead abusive husband with a pickax. And Shane? Shane's so pissed off about having Rick back - and about Rick pointing out that Lori and Carl aren't part of Shane's family - that he actually ponders a hunting accident of sorts for his old partner, and is only stopped by Dale's timely arrival. 

Because AMC wanted to get the show on the air around Halloween, this is going to be an extremely brief season by American standards, but it sure feels like it's going to be a satisfying one.

Finally, for as long as I'm covering this series, I'm going to keep closing each review for this series with the following reminders of how it works here on this blog: 

1)No Spoilers.

2)This includes any discussion of the previews for the next episode.

3)This includes any discussion of storylines from the comic that haven't happened yet in the timeline of the TV show. (And, yes, the show has and will continue to deviate from the comic in some ways, but for the sake of those instances where they're going to be the same, I don't want people talking about something from issue 50 when we're watching episode 4.) 

4)This includes anything you've seen or read elsewhere about anything that has not happened within the context of the episodes that have already aired.

Anything in violation of any of these points gets deleted. Nice and simple. Talk about what has already happened on the show, no more, no less.

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    JimAbbott'sRightHandMan

    I wonder if they're going to have to do like "Lost" did, coming up with excuses to send all the little kids away because the actors' ages won't make sense for long. That's what I thought about when the family with a bunch of kids decided to head off to Birmingham.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:05AM EST Reply to Comment
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      jenelle clark I hope not, because if they did that then they would have to kill off Rick's son. I don't think that would go over well. As long as they keep the kids they have left, they'll be fine.

      November 29, 2010 at 12:31AM EST
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      Rugger Very strong episode. The one difference from lost was when Jim asked the other camp member to hide that he had been bit. That would have been an absurd two episode arch ending in disaster. It. Here it was resolved in 5 minutes. "please don't tell anyone". "hey his ass got bit"

      November 29, 2010 at 8:33AM EST
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      JimAbbott'sRightHandMan Rugger, you're absolutely right. Now that I think about it, it would've been very "Lost" for that chick to take forever to finally get around to letting everyone know what's up. I loved that she didn't even blink between him asking her not to tell and her turning right around and saying "Jim got bit by a walker, everybody."

      The foolish idea of quickly getting a cure from the CDC to fix Jim was kind of a hair-brained "Lost" scheme, now that I think about it. That would've been Jack's move as soon as someone who was important (enough to know their name) got bit. Including the portion where they had no backup plan for banging on the door with zombies closing in on them. Somewhere, Jack was nodding in approval as this was going down, thinking, "Solid plan. That's what I'd do too."

      November 29, 2010 at 4:48PM EST
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      GUEST The entire Noah Emmerich part had a very Desmond in the hatch feel to it. Especially the music that is playing when he enters the lab.

      November 30, 2010 at 1:28PM EST
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      GUEST And Rick's breakdown pleading with someone who may or may not be there followed by the bright light when the door opened was reminiscent of the light coming out of the hatch after Lock had his breakdown

      November 30, 2010 at 1:31PM EST
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    Josh

    I felt this was a very strong episode. I have not read the comic series, but this was a wonderful, emotional show and without any of the clanking dialogue that sometimes marred the previous shows. It clearly has some parallels to Lost, the group stranded with no connection to the outside the world, this episode had the same electricity that I felt when the hatch was introduced in Lost and Noah Emmerich makes a nice stand in for Clancy Brown. I expect a division into two tribes is likely coming. I miss Rubicon, but Im glad this show seems to be taking off.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:10AM EST Reply to Comment
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      KnightyNate Regarding the LOST resemblance, when season 2 of LOST was airing -and perhaps earlier- I remember that one of the main theories or favorite scenarios about the others or the sickness was... "zombies". There even was a particular episode that ended with what looked like zombies closing in on a main character.

      November 29, 2010 at 1:16AM EST
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      Dan I felt the same way about the parallels to lost. All I could think about when they showed the CDC guy was Desmond, brotha.

      November 29, 2010 at 2:43PM EST
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      Sareeta I, too, immediately thought of Lost when they switched gears to the the guy in the CDC. Everything from the weird, upbeat music (which reminded me of Desmond's magnificent intro) to the flash of light when he finally opened the door (like the light flashing on when Locke is beating on the hatch). I think it's awesome.

      November 29, 2010 at 10:45PM EST
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    Guest

    I'm someone who loves the comics. I read issues 1-74(basically all but 4) in about 12 hours. All I have to say is, if the detours they take continue to be this well written, acted, and directed, then I encourage it wholeheartedly. Just an amazing episode. One of my favorite moments was Glen's protest of the burial/burning. The utter sadness and desperation in his voice and the instant turnaround to strength and conviction when he says "understand?" understated moment, but damn fine acting.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:10AM EST Reply to Comment
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    srpad

    I am a fan of the comic series (in fact just finished the most recent Graphic Novel this weekend) and I for one am glad they are changing it up. I would much rather be surprised than see a straight adaptation. It's a different medium so the story should be told differently.

    That said, the guy in the CDC felt very Desmond-y to me.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:12AM EST Reply to Comment
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      eddie willers I got interested in "Rizzoli & Isles" on TNT and decided to read the books the series was based on.

      Though they keep the basic thrust, the characters and the stories vary quite significantly....and for the better, I might add.

      I suspect the creators here are planning a similar tact.

      November 29, 2010 at 12:48AM EST
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    ronmexico

    I'm not sure I fully understand the zombie rules; if you're exposed to blood by an infected zombie, does that not make you susceptible to becoming one yourself? There's an awful lot of pickaxe through the brain cleanup going on and not much protective gear to prevent blood spray from popping into someone's face/eyes/mouth and being exposed.

    And while I understand Andrea's grief to some extent, you'd think that being so terrified of being bit might keep you away from being too near her sister, just in case being a bit lax might result in an accidental bite...

    But for me the most incredulous bit seemed to be Rick's plans to go to the CDC, and have no real backup plan in case they had no entry into the facility. They approached the doors of the CDC, and they seemed to be clearly screwed had the door (and light) from Close Encounters of the Third Kind opened up to let them in.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:16AM EST Reply to Comment
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      JB I'm not getting all the "zombie rules" either. It also occured to me: how did the CDC guy get those brain tissue samples that were unfortunately destroyed in the lab? He said they were "best" ones, so I assume they got them from a subject that was bitten prior to being fully tramsformed into a zombie.

      That said, I'm curious about Jim. Is he really going to turn into a zombie? Or, is it possible that since he only has a "bit" of the virus in him, that his body will fight it, and it'll end up being a vaccine of sorts? Just a theory....

      November 29, 2010 at 11:07AM EST
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      Kmarko The scene w/Andrea actually irritated me for that reason. They can't have such a precise sense as to how the whole zombie thing happens, so for her to be speaking so sentimentally while her sister tried to bite her neck seemed a little off to me.

      November 29, 2010 at 12:26PM EST
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      qrter The show has been very unclear on how contagious this virus actually is. You'd think people wouldn't take any chances - same goes for not burning the bodies, why would you take that chance.

      December 2, 2010 at 12:11AM EST
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    Rick Grimes

    I enjoyed reading your thoughts and review of the show, but it was capstoned by your "it's my ball" douchery about the anti-spoiler rules.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:16AM EST Reply to Comment
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      My valuable hunting knife Yeah, what a douche! /sarcasm

      November 29, 2010 at 12:21AM EST
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      Dale's radiator It is his ball and it's a good idea. Plenty of other places for folks to ruin shows. Just not here.

      November 29, 2010 at 1:13AM EST
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      fbihop Capstoned?

      November 29, 2010 at 3:26AM EST
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      mezzanine I actually really appreciate the emphasis Alan has made on this point, and it's obviously necessary. For people who neurotically hate spoilers like myself, coming across a spoiler is enough to put me off reading any future reviews.

      November 29, 2010 at 6:24AM EST
    • I don't get people who (figuratively speaking) walk into someone else's living room, and complain about the house rules. Let's split the difference and move on.

      November 29, 2010 at 1:47PM EST
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      lztouchthedream Indeed, the AV Club had a similar problem but not enough mod-power to combat it (or readers without as much self-restraint) and has been overrun with spoilers in the comments. As someone who hasn't read the comic, I'm pretty thankful that Alan has been able to enforce a no spoilers policy.

      November 29, 2010 at 7:05PM EST
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      joel It's fairly douchey to complain about anti-spoiler rules for the unspoiled virgins amongst us. Get over yourself or go elsewhere, please.

      November 29, 2010 at 8:37PM EST
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      T Williams I was enjoying reading guest comments until it was capstoned with this remark about douchery and anti-spoiler rules.

      November 30, 2010 at 6:38PM EST
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    Mj

    As a reader of the comics, I'm thrilled and excited about the detours (and I don't believe it's a spoiler to point out that the CDC storyline is indeed a complete departure). I love that I have no idea what's going to happen in the season finale.

    Great episode, looking forward to all the twists and turns.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:18AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Charlie This is starting to weird me out because I have a circle of about 10 friends that have really gotten into the comics and have now jumped on the show. The big problem I have had with it is the "let's go on a mission" way the season has progressed. With every turn it feels like they are doing something else ridiculous to put everyone in harms way. The CDC thing makes some sense to me yea, but it also feels so rushed and awkward that the rest of the group so willingly went somewhere without any plan of attack.

      I will say I have been affected by the change in plot, was really hoping for specific iconic moments that likely won't happen this season, so now I am stuck. I love the characters and want to support the show but it's hard for me to detach from the comics. I would have preferred the CDC adventure in season 2, maybe as a substitute for a different event.

      And one last thing, if this mirrors Lost so much then why is everyone so happy about that? You talk about having something original as opposed to the comic but then they copy the biggest show of the last decade? It just seems crazy to me that they are turning this show into more of a zombie movie with cutscenes of emotion sprinkled in around giant set pieces. Sorry I'm a rambling comic fan, but I love TV too and want to like this show so much...

      November 29, 2010 at 12:46PM EST
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      sarge well they needed to move, they couldn't just stay in the quarry, as more walkers would just keep coming. so they weighed up two options, and they chose to go to the CDC. now, they had no way of knowing what conditions were going to be when they got there, they didn't know there were going to be all those walkers there (though that could have been a safe assumption), and once they showed up and saw them all, they weren't just going to turn around and leave (especially as the camper was over heating and they must have been low on gas). so they got out of their vehicles and went to the front door, i don't see that there was much else they could have done?

      November 29, 2010 at 7:46PM EST


  • That CDC scene reminded me of Desmond in the Dharma Initiative. This isn't the only time I've been reminded of LOST while watching this show. And I mean that in a good way, not in a "this show has completely no credibility anymore way". :)

    November 29, 2010 at 12:24AM EST Reply to Comment
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      KnightyNate Reply to comment...

      November 29, 2010 at 1:12AM EST
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    Brendan

    Not much to say, just a great episode. No real groaners in the dialogue, no random hateable characters hanging around to eat up time. Everything pretty much grooved.

    I got a very Desmond-in-the-hatch vibe off of Emmerich in the lab. It's what he gets for putting poor Truman through all that crap.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:24AM EST Reply to Comment
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      November 29, 2010 at 10:59PM EST
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      nanbot2010 Please excuse previous post, I'm new here.

      My 12 year old Lost fan started singing "Make Your Own Kind Of Music" when they first showed Emmerich. The scene was very Desmond-in-the-hatch, indeed! Great episode.

      November 29, 2010 at 11:04PM EST
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    Sw

    Why in the hell don't the people in the group grab all those military weapons and vehicles laying about?

    November 29, 2010 at 12:27AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Col Bat Guano Thank you! All of those military trucks can't have run out of gas and there must be a few M-16's lying around. In fact, going to Fort Benning sounds like the best idea all around anyway.

      November 29, 2010 at 1:05AM EST
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      Brendan So you can guarantee that any random truck would have keys and gas and be fully operational and every gun would be loaded and set and ready to go? All this with a horde of the dead coming down on you? (They could have done a better job of showing the group of oncoming ghouls, but the zombies were there). They had to act fast, they needed to stick to what resources they absolutely had and could trust, not start picking up and firing anything they found. It's not a video game where the characters are 100% capable with every object they touch.

      November 29, 2010 at 10:19AM EST
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      Skonkworks @Brendan: Your defense of their actions is that they suddenly started acting rationally?

      November 29, 2010 at 5:06PM EST
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      Mark I don't think miltary vehicles have ignition keys. What a logistic nightmare that would be. They broke into a car, managed to hot wire it, and it had gas in the tank. Of course he passed up a perfectly good pickup, all he had to do was walk inside and find the keys, and instead took a horse into zombie central.

      November 29, 2010 at 7:29PM EST
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      Sw Combat vehicles rarely have keys, they have ignition switches. And those .60 and .50 cal Machine guns in the nests around the CDC would either be loaded or ammo nearby. And the soldiers bodies would prolly have hand grenades till attached. A Bradley fighting vehicle would do that group wonders as would the assault rifles laying all around. They had time to do some scavenging while a few stood guard. They shoudl find a National guard or military armory or even a State police armoery and get the tactical gear. Hell even find a gun shop and load up, i been in that part of GA, there is no shortage of gun shops.

      November 29, 2010 at 8:51PM EST
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    MC

    While I'm enjoying the series, it does feel like 'LOST' with zombies. Rick is Jack, Shane is Sawyer, Lori is Kate, Glenn is Hurley, and Ed is Locke. I also got a very Desmond vibe from the CDC scenes. Not saying that the parallels are a bad thing, but they're hard to not see.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:27AM EST Reply to Comment
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      lost is for christians At least they're not in purgatory.

      November 29, 2010 at 12:39AM EST
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      Guest Who's Ed?

      November 29, 2010 at 12:43AM EST
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      Heather That's a bit of a stretch with the character naming especially since we don't really know anything about the Walking Dead characters but the basics. I am a fan of Lost but I really don't feel the need to compare the two shows they really are not related in very many ways except in the broadest concept.

      November 29, 2010 at 2:04AM EST
    • I saw a lot of the same parallels to Lost characters, but I'd go with Dale as Locke (not sure who Ed is) and Darryl as Sawyer. Both jerks, selfish, kind of racist. I feel like he'll eventually come around though.

      And speaking of Lost, did anyone else get a big "Deus Ex Machina" vibe from the ending to this one? Rick was like Locke banging on the hatch door yelling in desperation when suddenly a white light appears to "save" them? And the guy in the CDC station was just like Desmond, preparing to kill himself but is interrupted by the banging on the door. I loved it.

      November 29, 2010 at 2:24AM EST
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      MC @Dan
      Sorry, I meant Dale as Locke (don't know where Ed came from). I can see comparisons between Darryl and Sawyer, but Sawyer was a leader of the group like Shane. Right now, we don't know what Darryl's role is.

      November 29, 2010 at 2:50AM EST
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      fbihop Dale seems more like Bernard than Locke to me.

      And maybe Rick will lose his kid and run around trying to find him and screaming his name and become Michael.

      November 29, 2010 at 3:28AM EST
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      Daniel Faraday I've been noticing HUGE recalls from LOST since TWD pilot. apart from the general frame (survivors dealing with others etc), I'd say:
      - the asma issue of the old man in episode 4
      - the reference to hunting frogs in episode 3 (or 2?..), recalling sawyer's attitude
      - the NOISE we hear in the camp is very very similar to the smoke monster's one.
      in episode 2, Lori getting lost in the woods with the same noise was very "lostish.."

      and definitely i agree with the cdc/hatch resemblance with rick playing the "crying locke" part.
      ..uh, and what about emmerich's video being sooo reminiscent of "the lost experience" stuff?

      yet, Lost first seasons where way better than present TWD. No arguing.

      November 30, 2010 at 9:15PM EST
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    GarySF

    Shane wasn't stopped from shooting Rick by Dale's arrival...the clear indication was he toyed with the idea than chose not to do it. Dale's appearance at that moment was just a coincidence. This was a terrific episode overall, and I'm looking forward to the finale and Season 2!

    November 29, 2010 at 12:40AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Michael G.

    Unless I'm remembering it wrong, Shane stopped himself from "accidentally" shooting Rick. Dale just happened to be watching him (though he understood what he had seen). I'm a bit surprised he didn't say anything to Rick.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:44AM EST Reply to Comment
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      soulkitchen That was no accident buddy, he knew it was Rick and actually contemplated shooting him.

      November 29, 2010 at 12:49AM EST
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      Kmarko You're correct--he stopped himself and then saw Dale. Too close for comfort, though. And it does seem like something Dale might tell Rick.

      November 29, 2010 at 12:28PM EST
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    soulkitchen

    I honestly thought this episode was incredibly painful to watch the entire way through.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:47AM EST Reply to Comment
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      mezzanine I felt the same way. It's a good example of how two people can watch the same thing and come away with opposite impressions.

      Sometimes I wish Alan would introduce more qualifiers in his reviews; expressing enthusiasm, but from within the context of the limitations that it's operating from within.

      I think the popularity of the genre gives the writers a lot of leeway. If they were operating outside of the zombie premise, and the story was situated in a more mundane post-apocalyptic world, the criteria for evaluation would be applied much more critically. I think True Blood gained from a similar phenomenon in it's first couple of seasons.

      November 29, 2010 at 6:20AM EST
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    Dezbot

    I haven't read the comic, so I don't know what's a departure until you point it out. I'm looking forward to seeing them interact with the CDC guy.

    Sorry to see the other family depart, but it's better to pare the cast that way than to have them all keep dying. Sad about Jim, though, poor guy. If I were him, I'd probably let Darryl shoot me through the head with an arrow.

    Also loved the look Dale gave Shane in the woods. Wonder if he will ever say anything about it to Rick? Sure seems like he wants to.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:49AM EST Reply to Comment
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      jobert Good point about the family that left the group. I also liked that they had Darryl look uncomfortable about sharing their ammo but didn't need to inject unnecessary dialogue to make the point.

      November 29, 2010 at 6:31PM EST
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    RM

    Does anybody know the name of the piece that underscored their departure from the quarry (and better yet where it's from)? I was hoping Alan would have the song reference listed in his review like he does with other shows. I enjoy that piece alot and I KNOW I've heard it before, so it's been bugging me. My guess would be the movie Sunshine (with Cillian Murphy) but I can't be sure.

    Any help would be awesome!

    November 29, 2010 at 12:49AM EST Reply to Comment
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      curlychuck It's a terrific song by the composer John Murphy called "Sunshine (Adagio in D Minor)", from the Danny Boyle movie "Sunshine." It's funny they played this since the music for this show has reminded me SO much of Murphy's work. He also did "28 Days Later", not surprisingly. Good stuff.

      November 29, 2010 at 12:59AM EST
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      curlychuck And ha, I clearly didn't finish reading your comment all the way through. You have a good ear :)

      November 29, 2010 at 1:01AM EST
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      RM Thanks for the assist curlychuck! After posting I did some youtubing and was able to confirm it as well. It was also used in the movie "Kick-Ass", which interestingly enough (after reading your comment), also used the song "In the House - In a Heartbeat" from 28 days later.

      November 29, 2010 at 1:08AM EST
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      Budo I love that piece but I have no idea why they'd use it here, especially with such a versatile and brilliant composer on board already. It really took me out of the show because it's recycled.

      November 29, 2010 at 4:57PM EST
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      Nexus This very same track is also used in a very good Jamin Winans film called "Ink" which he made a few different versions of the song but they all fit well.

      October 26, 2012 at 3:35AM EST
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    Elevation

    Nice to finally get some sort of hint or kernel of information about how and where the zombie apocalypse started. Rick's lack of curiosity has been odd, but at least the viewers finally got something with the Desmond-esque sequence.

    November 29, 2010 at 12:54AM EST Reply to Comment
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      JB Agreed. What was referenced? - something like "163 days" and counting? Hopefully the last CDC guy will shed more light on past events in next week's ep.

      November 29, 2010 at 10:56AM EST
    • I don't actually think it's odd at all. I mentioned 'Survivors" elsewhere on this thread, and series Terry Nation said he deliberate fought against pressure to explain the origin of the "European flu" that's just wiped out 99.99% of the human race in a matter of weeks. First, because he didn't think it was plausible that any of the random survivors would actually know, let alone care. Would knowing bring back everyone they'd watched die? Would it do a damn thing to help keep them alive?

      December 1, 2010 at 5:49AM EST
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      qrter You don't think that's odd? I'd say it's very odd.

      The point isn't whether it would actually help, or anyone would know any real answers - the point is that it's very basic human behaviour to want to ascertain information. What's the first thing anyone wants to know in any kind of panic? What is happening.

      It's seems very unrealistic that people wouldn't discuss what has happened.

      (I only have to think of my own reaction to 9-11. I think I spent a day just watching the news, eventhough most of it was the same information repeated - and I live on the other side of the world.)

      December 2, 2010 at 12:10AM EST
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    mike

    cdc guy seems rather strange, also weird how hes the only one left. how did he survive and not any others? good episode though.

    November 29, 2010 at 1:08AM EST Reply to Comment
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      qrter I kind of wish they had more episodes, so they could've done a complete episode on this guy, and his life in the CDC complex, with the survivors only arriving at the end of the episode. It would've made a nice change of pace and tone.

      December 2, 2010 at 12:14AM EST
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    The Peoples Champ

    ***SPOILER***

    Captain Planet comes to save the day. He's their hero. He's going to take the zombies down to zero.

    November 29, 2010 at 1:11AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Long Hong

    As much as I enjoyed reading all the comics up to issue 70 or so, I much prefer this departure on the TV show.

    It does make sense that they should go to the CDC and I very much like that the show is developing its own mythology to coincide with what's already present in the comic.

    Like everyone else has been saying, when it's done this well, it shouldn't matter that it's a detour they're taking.

    November 29, 2010 at 1:12AM EST Reply to Comment
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    happyciv44

    I really liked this episode and am so excited to see next weeks. The ending was a little surprising but like other people have said I'm happy they are deviating from the comics a bit. It keeps us comic fans surprised and asking questions too. I just hope not too many more people get killed off on the finale.

    November 29, 2010 at 1:15AM EST Reply to Comment
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    chuchundra

    One of the real bothersome things about the comic that carries over to the show is a complete disinterest in dealing with how things went down with the zombie apocalypse.

    How did it start? How did it spread? How did the military and other government authorities get overwhelmed so completely. Throughout the comic, Rick Grimes seems pretty uninterested in asking any of these questions.

    The CDC guy brings this question to the fore. How did the CDC, of all places, get emptied out so there's only one guy left.

    Like in the comic, things happen in the show, not because they make sense or because they flow organically from set up, but because they provide interesting things for the characters to say and do.

    November 29, 2010 at 2:14AM EST Reply to Comment
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      svr They got overwhelmed because it's unlikely that the government would wholesale eradicate the places where the infection popped up. (Instead sending in military to quarantine and cdc to try and treat) Aggressive eradication is the only thing that would have stopped it, but I don't imagine the remaining citizens would have been too happy if Atlanta got carpet bombed during the initial outbreak, what with all the innocent non-zombiefied people that might have still been there.

      November 29, 2010 at 3:29AM EST
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      Counter Many people believe that's one of the comics strengths actually. The not knowing what or how of the zombie apocalypse.

      November 29, 2010 at 5:20AM EST
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      joel It really doesn't matter and even if they did "know," how would they "know?" There would just happen to be someone who had the answers to it in their group? With most disasters, we don't find out the actual how, who, or why until days, weeks, months after the disaster occurs and even then, its only due to aggressive probing by the media. There is no media now, so once all hell broke loose any system to disseminate information also collapsed.

      I figure they'll get some more answers next week from CDC guy, but even that info will be funneled through what he got before all hell broke loose.

      As for "carpet bombing" Atlanta, try multiple tactical nukes. You'd have to completely and utterly wipe out every source of the outbreak immediately. If even one diseased individual escapes annihilation, the whole effort would fail. No government has the planning or resources for something that drastic, so any sudden mass outbreak is destined to devastate a large, populated country with easy, plentiful travel routes and travel options.

      November 29, 2010 at 8:51PM EST
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    Ken from Chicago

    Alan, long-time reader (since Mo Ryan's Chicago Trib "The Watcher" column that often quoted, recommended and linked to your then column in the New Jersey Star-Ledger), first-time commenter.

    That said, rewatch the episode. Shane stopped BEFORE Dale showed up, or at least before he noticed Dale. Look at the horror on Shane's face as he realizes what he was about to do.

    It's merely compounded when pulls away from the abyss of police fratricide and only then notices Dale staring at him--who confirms with his pithy comment that he (Dale) realized what Shane had come so close to doing.

    -- Ken from Chicago

    P.S. The seen with scientist reminded me of a cross between Will Smith in I AM LEGEND and Desmond in the 2nd season opener of LOST.

    P.P.S. Also Rick's comment about them being on the ragged edge, so very much reminded me of Captain Malcolm Reynolds' line from SERENITY about his crew being on the raggedy edge. Both men had a motley group of people at the end of their collective ropes. Nice.

    November 29, 2010 at 2:15AM EST Reply to Comment
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      mezzanine Malcolm Reynolds is maybe a million times cooler than Rick. The tragedy that was the early cancellation of Firefly continues to haunt me.

      November 29, 2010 at 6:27AM EST
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      sepinwall Shane stopped in part because he heard a noise (a broken tree branch, I think), which turned out to be Dale walking over. I suspect he would have stopped himself, anyway, but there was definitely an outside impetus, as well.

      November 29, 2010 at 8:41AM EST
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      Kmarko Alan--take another look (I did.) Rick stopped on his own, in a "fever breaking" kind of moment, and then noticed Dale. There was no outside impetus.

      November 29, 2010 at 1:13PM EST
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      John Serpa Alan, I believe the branch snapping was what caused Rick and Shane to split up and look for zombies in the first place. So it happened before Shane even aimed his gun at Rick.

      November 29, 2010 at 2:40PM EST
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    Cool Lester Smooth

    was really hoping for "make you own kind of music" to be played during the cdc montage. also wonder if the scientist was planning on reading dickens "our mutual friend" before potentially killing himself.

    November 29, 2010 at 2:19AM EST Reply to Comment


  • Loved this episode and what the do with sound on this show ... I almost jumped off my couch during the scene where Andrea is putting the necklace on her sister and right before the transition to the next scene, the sound of Daryl pick-axing someone comes up and I thought it was Amy coming back to life. Scared the bejesus out of me. How long do we have to wait for the next season?

    November 29, 2010 at 2:33AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Paco

    Just a comment Alan. As a faithful reader of the comic series, I wanted to say that I think it's kinda pointless to try to guess as to what was or wasn't in the book all the time. Reason being, for the most part so far, the show has been it's own thing by a good margin. Yes, it's used the overall theme and setting and psychology. And a couple key scenes. But the overall plot and direction is a good deal different. It's already a good deal different. And I guess that as time goes by, it will grow even more so into it's own thing. So far to the point where I doubt the book will even be much of a spoiler. They already got what they wanted, the overall story and characters. They're going to do what they feel best with them. At this point, you could be like me and have read every single issue of the book, and be just on your toes as someone who never read a page. Sure, maybe they'll use a few of the tricks out of the book. But I'm guessing in the long run, it's going to be a rather small %.

    November 29, 2010 at 2:37AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Fireflame94

    I had the complete opposite reaction to you Alan. This episode made me feel completely disenchanted with the show and it's soapy overtones. The comic book veered in to soapy territory, but it did it far more effectively with rounded characters. It's been 5 episodes and the only names I remember are the ones from the comics.

    This also leads me to conclude that, in my opinion, "Movie" people shouldn't be trying to do TV. Both Boardwalk Empire and The Walking Dead had famous movie directors backing their shows and directing the respective pilots. Both pilots showed that these directors could direct a good episode of TV, but both shows degenerated from that point to soapy messes that try to deal with classic genres on TV, executing the genre elements beautifully and failing on most other parts. I'm actually more disappointed in Boardwalk, as I am watching S3 of the Sopranos currently, and Terence Winter is a brilliant writer on that.

    The other thing which makes me believe that "TV" people should be trying harder on original drama is my strong opinions towards Terriers, Rubicon and Justified. Each of those three shows is similar to Boardwalk and the Walking Dead in terms of attempting to adapt a genre for TV (Noir, '70s era conspiracy and Urban Western respectively). But those three shows both nail the genre and the characterisation, as they have at least one showrunner who is a "TV" person who understands the medium and can work with it brilliantly.

    I know that almost everybody out there is likely to disagree with these statements, but I'm just putting in my two cents about "The Walking Dead" and that TV's new prestige means that people who don't understand the medium try to jump in and do it.

    November 29, 2010 at 3:03AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Fireflame94 I know that Terriers had Ted Griffin behind it, who is also a movie guy, but he is more of a writer than a director and he has Shawn Ryan and Tim Minear helping him with dealing with TV as a medium.

      November 29, 2010 at 3:08AM EST
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      Joe You obviously haven't watched the last few episodes of Boardwalk Empire. These last few episodes have been truly phenomenal in terms of writing and directing. The characters have become more complex and interesting as the show has progressed. Truly great writing

      November 29, 2010 at 3:38AM EST
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      Beatle Rubicon was dull. Let it be.

      Every Walking Dead post someone has to go off on this show is better tangent.

      November 29, 2010 at 5:18AM EST
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      mezzanine While I agree with the generally disappointing sentiment expressed about Walking Dead, I think you're off-base about Boardwalk Empire. That show is quite good, and a lot better than this one.

      I'm not sure if there's a meaningful correlation to be drawn about the medium the writers come from. I think there tends to be a higher degree of variance between episodes within a TV series, which may be what you're perceiving. They're not the cohesive units that a film typically is. Often they have different people working on different episodes.

      November 29, 2010 at 6:32AM EST
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      sepinwall Regardless of your feelings on the quality of Boardwalk Empire, you can't point to it and say it's good/bad/mediocre because it's from a movie guy. Scorsese directed the pilot, sure, but it's Terry Winter's show, and he has a long history on TV. Most of the credit/blame goes to him. Whereas Darabont not only wrote and directed this pilot, but has been the man in charge throughout.

      November 29, 2010 at 8:47AM EST
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      Guest I disagree about Walking Dead, it's been great so far. As to Boardwalk....I'm just not sold on it yet. It's not a bad show, but I can't call it a great show yet.

      November 29, 2010 at 10:16AM EST
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      Budo If I had a penny for every "The show's too soapy" comment from recent years, I'd be a rich man. I don't even know what it means anymore - seems like people start using it whenever a show with any hint of "genre" in it deals with anything remotely related to characters interacting in a way real life humans do. I mean - what, "wife thinks husband is dead so she finds comfort with his best friend" happens a lot in soaps, therefore The Walking Dead is "soapy"?

      November 29, 2010 at 5:03PM EST
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      Fireflame94 Well, based on the comments, I'm starting to think I may have given up on Boardwalk a little too early, and probably should have gotten my facts straight before commenting about it.

      The point I was making about movie guys is more important in the near future than now, as there seems to be a variety of famous movie guys like Bill Condon and Todd Haynes moving into TV. Darabont seems to have issues with pacing TV, and often having dramatic moments that would be fine in a film, but feel contrived on TV. TV is sudddenly a much more prestigious medium, and I wonder if some of the other directors/writers transitioning will hit similar roadblocks.

      I feel that Walking Dead is soapy because the interactions are often a little stiff and the dialogue is rountinely cringe-worthy, adding up to big reveals or big dramatic moments that are common in Soap Operas.

      November 29, 2010 at 5:46PM EST
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      Sareeta I had a similar reaction to last week's episode, which I felt was the worst of this short season. I don't watch Terriers or Justified, but I agree with your sentiments about Rubicon. Also, while I somewhat enjoy Boardwalk Empire, I do feel like it would not have gotten so much buzz without Martin Scorcese's name.

      However, this episode really won me over. I'm not familiar with the comics, but after the ending of last episode and dealing with the aftermath at the beginning, everything in this episode just worked. It made sense to discuss how to deal with the zombified loved ones/friends' bodies and what to do about poor Jim. Going to the CDC sounds perfectly reasonable; I wasn't expecting them to go there on foot, though, leaving themselves exposed to zombies without an escape plan.

      November 29, 2010 at 11:08PM EST
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    Sunny

    What happened to Merle? I thought maybe he brought the zombies to the camp as revenge. I haven't read the comic, but I hope they eventually run into him.

    November 29, 2010 at 3:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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      mezzanine Obviously they most certainly will.

      November 29, 2010 at 6:34AM EST
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      Mark Had this same conversation with someone who is also watching the show, much younger and a big zombie fan. I say Merle is gone, one and done. He said (Rooker?) is too big a star and has to make an appearance. Notice they didn't leave Merle a note?

      November 29, 2010 at 1:45PM EST
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      jcpdiesel21 I think Merle will show up again, I hope sooner rather than later. It would be really cool if he showed up again as a zombie. I like Michael Rooker, but don't care for Merle or his brother Darryl, and would like to see this loose end taken care of before too long.

      November 29, 2010 at 2:55PM EST
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    JoeyZ26

    I really appreciated the heartfelt goodbye between Jacqui and Jim as the caravan was preparing to move on without him. I was confused at first as to why she was particularly affected by his sickness, but remembered earlier that she was the one who first reacted to his having been bitten and alerted the camp as Jim begged her not to. She then goes on to care for him as his condition worsens, and her short exchange with Jim beneath the tree was one of the most profound moments of a great episode. Loving this show!!

    November 29, 2010 at 3:38AM EST Reply to Comment
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    DougMac

    I thought it was the best episode since the pilot by far.

    November 29, 2010 at 10:08AM EST Reply to Comment
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