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'Sons of Anarchy' - 'Turas': Razed in a barn

Are the Sons finally getting wise to what the Irish are up to?

<p>Jax (Charlie Hunnam) on "Sons of Anarchy."</p>

Jax (Charlie Hunnam) on "Sons of Anarchy."

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A quick review of tonight's "Sons of Anarchy" coming up just as soon as I get an app for blackmail...

"Everything they say is like smoky truth. I don't trust them. I don't trust their priest." -Jax

Last week, I complained about how the characters on the show had become obvious pawns, both of the writing staff, the different factions in Ireland, etc.. "Turas" was an improvement on recent weeks, then, as our regulars finally began to recognize how they're being played.

In Ireland, Jax is skeptical about the story Father Ashby told him, and is smart enough to tell Juice to keep an eye on O'Neill (just not smart enough to order him and Happy to follow the guy even on a bathroom break). In Charming, Tig and company figure out very quickly that Salazar is their real enemy, not the Mayans, and Unser (with some help from Oswald) finally realizes that the devil he made his new deal with is worse than the devils he abandoned.

There's still potential for problems and manipulation, obviously. As everyone predicted the second the Sons and Mayans let Salazar live, he's abducted Tara (and Margaret). Given that Hale told him how to find Tara, I'm guessing he caught them on the way to the abortion clinic, rather than from, and I'm hoping the storyline is less cliched than the ordeal forcing a miscarriage and taking Tara off the hook for what to do with the pregnancy.  

Jax, meanwhile, is still relying on Stahl - though at least there he knows she's untrustworthy, and has no other choice - and we see in the scene where Fiona stops Gemma from killing Jimmy that this is a game where the Sons still don't completely understand the rules, the players, etc. And no one actually sees Liam blow up the truck, so the Sons have to keep pretending to be friendly with SAMBEL.

I guess at this point I've just resigned myself to the idea that this story arc isn't really working for me, and that I'm just going to ride it out and see where we land for season four. (One of the disadvantages to the 13-episode arc storytelling model that many cables shows use is that if a viewer doesn't like the arc, there's not going to be a change until the next season.) It's entirely possible that the payoffs to events in Belfast and Charming will be so powerful that I'll leave my concerns behind in the end. I did, after all, really like the season premiere as Jax drowned in his grief, and some of the other episodes as we've gone along. The Sons getting wise is a good first step. But I'm still proceeding with caution through the season's closing chapters.

Some other thoughts:

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• Another song-filled episode, with songs including "An Almighty Thud" by We Were Promised Jetpacks, "Old Soul" by Romany Rye, "We Grow Stronger" by Flatfoot 56, "Church Bells Are Ringing" by Blacklist Royals, "Fight Song" by Methods of Mayhem, "Our Last Fight" by Scala And Kolacny Brothers, "Living the Mystery" by Paul Brady and "Sweet Hereafter" by The White Buffalo. And it looks like the Celtic theme is here for the duration of the Belfast trip.

• Shouldn't an experienced liar like Stahl know enough to either keep her phone on her person or immediately purge the call log before Tyler could get her hands on it?

• Poor Chibs. Though since the writers weren't going to bump off any of the Sons in the explosion, his nephew might as well have been wearing a red "Star Trek" shirt.

• We learn a bit more about John Teller's stint in Ireland, and it seems like he abandoned Gemma, Jax and Thomas just as Thomas was starting to get really sick from his heart defect. Not cool, JT.

• So does the tattoo on Margaret's back, which implies that she was once a biker's old lady, make her previous warnings to Tara more or less interesting?

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    DMC

    That guy looks like Brad Pitt lite.

    November 2, 2010 at 11:07PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Tommy "He has a Brad Pitt look about him. Only not as gay." -Georgie

      (Well, not the exact quote from last season, but you get the picture)

      Btw, I was totally expecting someone to say something like "He's more 'Queer As Folk' than 'Snatch'" reference in that scene. lol

      November 2, 2010 at 11:52PM EST
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    Hautie

    This is the first episode where I was bored. It just rehashed the same ole thing. Like the local law stopping for their passports again.

    And oddly enough I was not impressed with the hospital director having a big tattoo on her back. It actually seems like a cheap trick. Cause I just can't image why any former old lady letting Tara slap her around.

    So it does look like they are going to drag out the kidnapped Abel story for the entire 13 season.

    November 2, 2010 at 11:11PM EST Reply to Comment
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      belinda The tattoo reveal does seem like a cheap trick, but at least it explains just why Margaret was always butting in, helping Tara out to keep her job, and trying to get her away from the gang, when having Tara around at the hospital - no matter how great of a doctor she might be - is a huge pain in the ass.

      I'm thinking Gemma might break her promise to Tara to deal with the Jax Trinity Situation.

      As much as I hate the kidnapping arc, I'm glad we're at the last 4 episodes of it, so even if the payoff will unlikely be enough to compensate, at least it won't be a drag to watch.

      November 3, 2010 at 7:06AM EST
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      dave p The tattoo was ridiculous, because if it was a Son's tattoo (and it looked like one), then SOMEBODY IN CHARMING WOULD KNOW HER. Most likely Gemma, who was married to the founder of the whole thing. Either way, I totally agree that it's a cheap trick, and there's still zero explanation for why she did a total 180 from Tara hate to felony accomplice in the hospital escape and bestest budddy in the whole world. And while I'm on it, who here believes that a porn actress who also dabbles in regular prostitution doesn't know where to get an abortion done? Those girls would have a doc in the #3 spot on their phones.

      I'm really checked out on this whole season. I not only see the clumsy hands of the plot doctor all over the screen he's also slapping me in the face every week. And why was last week's show so long? We still haven't gotten anywhere.

      November 5, 2010 at 1:10AM EST
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      A It wasn't a SAMCRO tattoo & it didn't look like one - it looked like an aged rock fan's ink. I'm assuming this was an excuse for Salazar to take Margaret along, though why would he need one, and why would old ladies have MC ink? He didn't check Tara for any. And I don't recall Gemma emblazoned with club imagery. I agree with you on the plot doctor thing, but this in particular seems orchestrated to give us a "shock" - ooh, Margaret has a tattoo! - at the expense of the reveal making any sense.

      November 5, 2010 at 1:52AM EST
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      trinitygirl A, Gemma does have SAMCRO art - she has a crow over her breast (which is what Tara has on her lower back), and the tattoo on her arm has some sort of connection too, although i can't recall exactly what right now (there might be a reaper at the top of it, similar to Maureen's reaper?). But you are all correct that the tattoo on Margaret's back is not a club one - it says My Love across a big (broken) heart with bones protruding from it, and above that it says Rock and Roll with musical notes on a ribbon. So, I am going to take a guess that she was a rock groupie in her younger days...

      November 5, 2010 at 4:15AM EST
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    Scheer_Power

    Significant improvement this week over the last few episodes. Good to see Jax questioning the way SAMCRO does business again, and Gemma quickly dismissing his claims. Glad they haven't completely forgotten that.

    November 2, 2010 at 11:11PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Scheer_Power Almost forgot, Jimmy's failed attempt to have SAMCRO all killed, the leader of SAMBEL (whose name escapes me) wasn't in on it right? That has to be the way their luck turns around in Belfast.

      November 2, 2010 at 11:16PM EST
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    jeremy

    Write a comment...

    November 2, 2010 at 11:15PM EST Reply to Comment


  • More than a mere red shirt, he is basically Scotty's nephew in Wrath of Kahn.

    November 2, 2010 at 11:19PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Tommy Yeah, but at least SOA's Scotty is an authentic Scot. lol

      November 2, 2010 at 11:46PM EST
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    rdubs

    I think what it boils down to is that at the end of last season, I was very much emotionally invested in Abel, and I guess I was expecting this season to be about getting him back.

    But what's actually happening is that this season is about the MC's history with Ireland. And the whole Abel thing was a vehicle to get us here and not the main storyline.

    So my frustration has been in watching all of these people be not all that visibly distraught about the missing child and there's no sense of urgency about getting him back or really even finding out where he is. It's focusing on the relationships between SAMCRO, SAMBEL and the Army.

    And so another episode in Belfast with not so much emphasis on Abel seems like a let down to me. Again. This isn't what I was expecting at all for this season, so I keep getting these disappointed feelings.

    I'll rewatch this season and likely see it differently and feel invested in these stories, but I'm still really worried about that poor little baby, and I guess until I can put that aside, I won't be able to really engage.

    November 2, 2010 at 11:30PM EST Reply to Comment
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      reed I completely agree that it's frustrating that none of the characters seem that distraught anymore. I've been feeling that for several episodes now. If you compare Jax from the season premiere to Jax now, you would think that he already got Abel back. I feel like the emotional tone that the show set with the premiere hasn't carried through to the rest of the season, like it obviously should, considering the fact that the grief and despair of having a child kidnapped isn't really something that you learn to deal with.

      November 3, 2010 at 1:07AM EST
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      Teklanika Well said about the apparent lack of urgency to get Abel back. That has been my main issue with the season.

      It makes the other parts of the story less believable like all the concocted reasons to keep them from getting to Ireland as Alan has stated.

      Also, I wouldn't put it past Sutter to have Abel end up never returning to Jax.

      November 3, 2010 at 11:22AM EST
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      Dave p Here here! Are you telling me there's a child missing? Because I thought the violated their bail to play poker and drink and have fistfights across the pond. And while there are at it, they can take scenic bike rides around the Irish countryside providing "security" for the Belfast factions gun runs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if I was smuggling secret cargo, is a group of 20 tatted up bikers on modified bikes with loud exhausts the best way to do it? I'm thinking I just load my cargo into the truck and drive it where it needs to go, without the 100 yards of attention grabbing knuckle draggers? But hey, if they had a successful gun run, I'm sure they would have had another drunken party with music and sex. Able? Who's Able? Don't bother me with talk about my son, because I'm about to have sex with my sister. God forbid Gemma say something before it happens.

      November 5, 2010 at 1:19AM EST
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    jeremy

    what the hell are these guys thinking, the president and sergeant o arms, turning on their own club. Bull where's the brotherhood of this charter. Still gotta say I love the show but a little confused on where they are taking it

    November 2, 2010 at 11:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Dave F

    I'll add that I enjoyed the comic relief at Gemma's frustration watching Jax get closer to consummating his relationship with his half-sister. There are plenty of instances that show there is a huge attraction between siblings who never knew each other (I saw a news special on the that subject). If Kurt Sutter goes for it, I will be very impressed.

    November 2, 2010 at 11:57PM EST Reply to Comment
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      A.P. I'm sure Gemma wouldn't let it happen though, in fact, the father's past will probably be revealed in the penultimate episode to create that extra drama

      November 3, 2010 at 3:13AM EST
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      jan That's one of the reasons there's a taboo against such matings: if the attraction weren't there, there would be no reason to forbid it. It would be a little like finding your soulmate--think of all the shared DNA. I guess I was sort of surprised by all the "ew" comments before this episode; if they don't know they're brother and sister, why wouldn't they be attracted to each other?

      November 3, 2010 at 9:44AM EST
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      Nel I actually got the feeling that Jax suspects something. Maybe I read too much into it, but when he asked how old she was I thought he was checking...plus she seems to look very much like John.
      But then again, I could very well be wrong^^.

      November 3, 2010 at 2:05PM EST
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    candee

    It looks like Jimmy was getting rid of the MC Irish who were not in his pocket. It also looks like he wanted McGee dead. I hope this walks McGee up and he begins to help SAMCRO.
    I now understand how the Priest could give away Abel and still tell Jax that he promised Abel would go home with his loving family. Obviously he meant the NEW family tricky bugger.
    I was sorry to see Chib's nephew killed. I also now see why Gemma in the first season said the only two women scared her were her mother and Fiona. Fiona is a bad A@#.
    Could anyone see what the tatto was of on the supervisor; if that was important; or was it just she had one????
    And on the previews when the man was saying .....ordered the hit what name did he say. I re-watched it a few times and still could not understand it.

    Tonight was a good episode, but we can all see Jax and Trinity getting closer when will Gemma or Mo drop the bomb that there will be no getting physical you are half siblings?????

    November 3, 2010 at 12:00AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Nel He asked 'Who orderered the hit?'.

      November 4, 2010 at 7:26AM EST
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    Cool Lester Smooth

    i liked the episode fot the most part, but salazar is probably the lamest bad guy i've ever seen and drives me crazy anytime he's on screen. first off, samcro and the mayans not killing him during the bathroom scene was beyond ridiculous considering that he most likely orchestrated the grim reaper's death and was beyond incompetent as the calavaras president (letting samcro steal the heroin). there's no way they would have let him live and it was obvious he was only kept alive so he could be a bad guy.

    secondly, if you want to have someone be a menancing big bad, you can't have him screaming like a b**** like he did in the second episode when they put him in the hole. there's nothing threatening or charismatic about him and is annoying that we have to take him seriously as a threat (as opposed to aj weston last year, who was actually scary and menacing).

    November 3, 2010 at 12:58AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Carter I'm just disappointed that his Camaro doesn't have any sweet flames painted on the sides or hood.

      November 3, 2010 at 1:15AM EST
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    A.P.

    This season has progressively been receiving less and less of my captive attention. I'm finding myself not caring at all about what's going on with the Irish, and the majority of the storylines [though I like watching some scenes just because I still like the characters]. I was most interested when SAMCRO struck a deal with 2 rival gangs (amongst many problems), and similarly the dealings with Jax and Stahl -but that's been about 20 minutes of play out of this whole season. I know the deal-makings had links with the Irish story, but I just don't care. It's not even the fact that it's tied in with Abel, Abel kidnapped could have been a lot more interesting if not done in such an oddly construed way with all these new characters and histories.
    Combined with the fact that nothing is going right between the 'stable' partner/relationships, I feel like the show is just crumbling from the weight of all it has to continue establishing and eventually resolving.

    November 3, 2010 at 3:09AM EST Reply to Comment


  • the tat on admin lady's back makes her interactions with tara MORE interesting, definitively!

    November 3, 2010 at 4:27AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Crystal what was the tattoo of exactly??

      November 3, 2010 at 1:22PM EST
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    Bo

    I'm with you. I was really happy with last night's episode, but I'm cautious moving forward. Kind of sucks that they are making Tara's supervisor so forcibly relatable, but that was a small issue in an otherwise satisfying episode. Also, they have to realize Liam blew up the truck, even if they didn't see him do it, and did the other Irish biker in with Jimmy know he was going to do that? It seemed implied to me that he might not have.

    The best development of the episode for me was definitely Jax seemingly returning to the contemplative Jax from the first two seasons.

    November 3, 2010 at 6:19AM EST Reply to Comment
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    w

    I think too much has been made over this season's narrative. I like that Sutter decided to go a different direction than the other two seasons. He wants versatile toppings. There is an anticipation that this will get bloody this season. I think that was the point. To hold off on the juicy bits until the end so it would resonate. I can see how people would see the season as uneven, but I think the plan was to use breadcrumbs this season. That being said if Jax bangs is blood sister I might cut somebody.

    November 3, 2010 at 7:50AM EST Reply to Comment
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    CD

    I think everyone should take a moment and realize that the story is already written. Kurt Sutter shouldn't have to respond to individual complaints for the simple reason that there is nothing he can do about it once they have aired... or after they are in production.

    Also, I think we here should take notice at how things are being addressed, but perhaps not in the "that's what I thought was going to happen/should happen (and therefore I am just as good or better than the show runner -- an insidious, oft-implied conceit that is all too easily found these days in instant responses through social media)".

    Things of note, imho:
    - Show starts off at the moment that others had a problem with, the moment that Jax is told that it is the priest who has the real access to Abel and is trying to get something out of him. (This addresses a main issue from last week addressed on this site--I agreed last week and bit my tongue hoping that the scene would continue [I have my own conceits :-)])
    - Stuff is still rocking in Charming: Great, things are moving along. The kidnapping was telegraphed but the ink on the hospital administrators back was well worth it. This makes her relationship to the situation so much more interesting (possibly). Darby's involvement in this has not been formulaic: Bravo.
    - Gemma going to Belfast had to happen to make it worth it (yes, I take Myth over Madness when it comes to whether this show will fill in the pasts of these characters that we have come to know as opposed to making this show about the weekly exploits of 2D group of ill-adjusted criminals). It is paying off to show the Queen so out of her element, in ways. Her comments could be leading her down a path toward John Teller's Book. Which does she choose? The criminal exploits of her clan who "rules" their small area of the world? Or her grandson while in the midst of the big bad world that gives her her power?

    I am so looking forward to piecing together the story (lore and otherwise) and while we all head in to the last 4 episodes.

    November 3, 2010 at 8:13AM EST Reply to Comment
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      cgeye If Sutter wants a passionate fanbase, he should expect our sensemaking activities now to be frought with frustration, especially since he's spent the first half of the season spinning his wheels.

      I don't want more ultra-violence; I want the plot we came in with -- FIND ABEL AT ANY COST, including the imprisonment of the entire club -- to matter now. We have an entire new MC that we're supposed to give a shit about, even though we know that sooner or later our focus will return to Charming, and no matter what we feel about Fiona or Trinity or those poor babies guarded with a nun with a gun, we will move on, as Sutter wants us to.

      That's why all this time feels like momentum wasted -- we have idle capacity to imagine the payoff, since we sure as hell can't figure it out yet, and even our imaginations are chafing a bit, because we're not getting solid clues through these new characters how things will go. Did you have any doubt about what the neo-Nazis were capable of, after they raped Gemma? Didn't we spend all season bracing for the fallout? So now we're to settle for Jax talking calmly to the priest who took away his child, who didn't send word directly to SAMCRO about where to find him, and is fomenting a horrible interterrorist war, just to get his rocks off? In a previous season, Father Ashby would be garroted already by Gemma, and the garrote wire planted in Jimmy O's house. The planning SAMCRO used to do, despite their rage? Gone. The ability to navigate around Irish politics, even though the foundation of their charter's profitability depends on that? MIA.

      And as for the superior "judge not the already in-the-can received work of The Showrunner" tone, fuck that noise -- showrunners sure as hell don't mind us sending emails of praise and reminders to our Nielsen family friends to Save Our Show, when such times roll 'round. Should the only thing they hear be our thanks, for them deigning to share their creative gifts with us? I thought we got rid of that system; it was called Network Television, and we took what we got and tried to like it. And, Mr. Sutter isn't the shy, retiring flower we see on his blog; I have a feeling he's a tough cookie, don't you?

      November 4, 2010 at 3:24AM EST
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    Belfaster

    My thought, some off top of my head but some in response to other posters:

    1) Father Ashby's main objective is to eliminate Jimmy, sure, but I'm starting to feel that's not his only objective. As we saw tonight, his history with the Sons begins with John Teller, and we're starting to see that JT carved out a side-life by starting a new family in Ireland, knowing full well he abandoned his old one. In essence, Ashby feels like his family "claimed" John, so he probably has little love for Gemma, Jax or Abel. By letting people adopt Abel, he's basically eliminating what he views as the wrongful continuation of John's bloodline; then he just waits for Jax to be killed by Jimmy or he'll just do it himself when Jax comes to collect his son.

    2) I don't feel that Jax or anyone has forgotten about Abel. His grief came mostly from not knowing if Abel was alive or dead, but now that he knows the kid is safe, the emotional pressure is off, and now he can just clearly focus on the task at hand of eliminating Jimmy.

    3) Jax made a good point when he tells Gemma this all began because the Sons started getting into gun-running for the IRA. In another episode I recall someone saying it was this specific purpose that caused SAMBEL to be created in the first place. So, it's starting to seem like John Teller, by becoming chummy with the Irish, created the gun-running problems in the first place that caused SAMCRO to become corrupt, a fact he no doubt came to realize which spurred on his manifesto from Season 1.

    4) Jimmy's pissed off so many people now by killing other people those people cared about that there's almost no way Jax can honor his deal with Stahl w/o being forced to go rogue on his own club.

    November 3, 2010 at 8:19AM EST Reply to Comment
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    LA

    So bored with this season. Get back to Charming already, save Tara, kill Salazar, expose Hale.
    I'm so over Gemma going off half cocked. She hasn't had a good move since reuniting Jax/Clay.

    November 3, 2010 at 9:02AM EST Reply to Comment
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    WadeR

    "finally realizes that the devil he made his new deal"

    Bwahahahaha. Did you mean the deal he made with his new devil?

    Oopsies.

    November 3, 2010 at 9:32AM EST Reply to Comment
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      J the devil he made his new deal WITH, makes perfect sense

      November 3, 2010 at 9:53AM EST
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    Guest of Anarchy

    I just can't help but think that Gemma is just hurt and ruthless enough to really consider letting Jax and Trinity get it on to hurt the Irish old lady of John Teller. In the end her decency will win, but so far I think she almost wants it to happen. Otherwsie, why let it even get as far as it has? They are all adults; at the first sign of attraction any rational person would have nipped it. Of course, this is just conjecture on my part.

    November 3, 2010 at 9:36AM EST Reply to Comment
    • No way; she loves Jax more than she could ever hate Maureen. She let it get "as far as it has" because she's putting off the inevitable as long as she can. Jax has enough to deal with right now.

      November 8, 2010 at 8:39AM EST
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    JB

    My LOL moment from this episode: when Tig tells Unser to "go do some cop shit". Priceless. As tedious as some of the other storylines get, you can always rely on Tig to provide comic relief.

    November 3, 2010 at 9:37AM EST Reply to Comment
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      jld1948 Yep, leave it to Tig to come up with some funny lines! Priceless indeed! Anybody see what MC tat was on Margaret Murphy's back?

      November 3, 2010 at 10:13AM EST
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    leo

    There were some things I really liked about this episode - I like that there were more scenes from Charming and that it looks like Unser is going to get back on board in his support of the Sons. Part of the frustration of this season have been all the open story lines, and seeing all the characters be misdirected and operating on false info - and finally the characters are starting to know what we, the audience know. Having Unser know that Hale is the devil in town is huge, and I also liked that the payback for Hale's idiocy in hiring Salazar came back to haunt him with the blackmail. (Quel surprise.)

    Also loved when Piney made that comment to Kozik that he was "counting" on him killing Tig, or something like that. It was nice to have the open story line on Donna's death finally come back and it's needed. Also made me realize that part of the reason I liked this episode was the return to Charming.

    The good part about the Belfast stuff is that it looks like it's coming to a conclusion. Don't they just have a few more days before they have to be back in Charming or Oswalt loses his bond?

    I was also surprised when Stahl didn't take her phone in the bathroom with her. Also felt another, "What now?" when her partner looked that the incoming phone call (and figured she probably realized it was Jax.)

    Still squicked out by Jax and Trinity, but still think that Gemma will spill the beans before anything else happens.

    The most interesting development of the Belfast story for wasn't just that the Sons are finally starting to know SAMBEL are dirty (and a little frustrating to know they aren't quite there yet), but I liked knowing the part that Gemma felt JT was responsible for her other son's death - which may explain why she may have turned on him later on.

    As to Tara, it would be really a good twist to show that she was actually coming back from the abortion, and that she had made the decision. Otherwise back to the soap opera and Salazar as Snidely Whiplash.

    Also like the Darby has made an apparent transition to a decent human being. Kind of. For now.



    November 3, 2010 at 9:43AM EST Reply to Comment
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      November 3, 2010 at 1:47PM EST
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      Timm S Funny that you mention the great Snidely Whiplash as the consummate "bad guy" who serves no function other than to be the bad guy. I actually had a similar feeling when I saw O'Neill pull out the very cartoon-y transmitter to detonate the explosive, as though he were Muttley the giggling dig(comic sidekick of Dick Dasterdly), and the trigger had "BOMB" written on it as he crouched in the ditch. It was a very cartoon moment for me.
      I also was really glad to see the delight on Piney's face when he tipped his hand that he wanted Lemonhead* to kill Tig as revenge for Donna's death. Good work by Sutter and the gang with that callback. Gives me hope hey might just be able to tie some of these things up after all.

      *-Kenny Johnson will ALWAYS be Lem, no matter what role he plays. I re-watched "Blade" recently, and said out loud when I watched the opening scene, "Look, it's Lemonhead with Traci Lords!" Good times...

      November 3, 2010 at 1:56PM EST
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      Tommy I highly doubt Tara had the abortion.

      1) Salazar wanted to know from Hale where she worked and most likely tailed her from the hospital.

      2) Nothing in her demeanor hinted that she had the procedure done. A post-abortion is a very painful and draining experience both emotionally and physically.

      November 4, 2010 at 8:21PM EST
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    J

    I think you are being too hard on this season, it's like you decided early on you wanted the Abel storyline wrapped up quick, and since they didn't do that, you see the entire season through a skewed look.

    I was itching for them to get to Ireland as well, because I knew it could be awesome, but I never felt they were intentionally creating ways to keep them in Charming. For one, they didn't know Abel was in Ireland, two, I doubt it's exactly easy to arrange for 7 or 8 ex-cons who are on parole to leave the country, and three, despite the urgency of finding Abel, they still had to ensure they had things somewhat taken care of in Charming before they left.

    I think this episode was great, and I guess like you said in your column, you've just never accepted this storyline. but because you haven't I think you're missing out on enjoying a good season of storytelling.

    November 3, 2010 at 9:44AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Teklanika I think people wanted the Abel story line wrapped up quickly b/c a missing child is not something people drag out in real life. If my daughter goes missing and I have a bead on who took her, I'm gone until I find her. I don't mess around with trivial stuff (which what the obstacles felt like).

      I actually really like the Irish history storyline. I think it would be a lot better if a missing child wasn't the reason for it all b/c that should take priority over everything else.

      November 3, 2010 at 11:36AM EST
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    JB

    >>It's entirely possible that the payoffs to events in Belfast and Charming will be so powerful that I'll leave my concerns behind in the end.

    Alan, I hope so. I do have faith that they will resolve the Belfast storyline, but back home in Charming, I'm beginning to doubt whether they'll wrap up the Hale drama. I think Salazar will be squashed - and Tara rescued - but even with the blackmail tape, I have a sneaking suspicion that Hale will walk off scott free and be a thorn in SAMCRO's side for season 4.

    November 3, 2010 at 9:45AM EST Reply to Comment
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      candee I think you are right about Hale being a thorn for season 4 but I also think he has a partner, his original partner....Zobell. I know Mr. Sutter said we would see him again in season three. so it will probably he at the end of this season when the sons are sent to do their time and they have to KNOW Hale and Zobell are loose on Charming.

      November 3, 2010 at 11:48AM EST
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    Chris

    I think the most revealing scene from last nights episode was when Chibbs said he wouldn't take his family back to Charming because this is Kerry Ann's home and the only way he can keep his family safe is to kill Jimmy. Jax's face at that moment I think showed exactly what this season is going to lead to. Jax's needs Jimmy alive so he can keep his deal with Stahl to save Gemma from prison and keep the club intact. I think he's going to end up having to kill Chibb's in order to save Jimmy and subsequently keep his deal with Stahl.

    November 3, 2010 at 10:21AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Michael

    Stahl's partner/lady friend probably wouldn't get any information from her phone log. I'm assuming (like in many past episodes) Jax would be using a Pre-Pay phone that is untraceable back to him.

    November 3, 2010 at 10:31AM EST Reply to Comment
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      sepinwall True, but all she has to do is hit redial, wait for Jax to pick up (as he would, seeing Stahl's number) and she'd put 2 + 2 together. She didn't do that yet, but I won't be at all shocked if that comes up in the next episode or two.

      November 3, 2010 at 11:29AM EST
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      leo Yeah, I think we're going to see that very scene in the next week or two. I'm hoping that this means that her partner is going to end up turning the tables on Stahl and that this is somehow going to end up as a good thing for the Sons. Cuz you know it's not exactly like there's been a lot of good things happening for them lately.

      November 3, 2010 at 12:12PM EST
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    Kujo

    You knew the second Margaret agreed to drive Tara to the abortion clinic, that Salazar would end up kidnapping them. The tattoo reveal that Margaret used to be an old lady? No one from SAMCRO knew this? Ugh. Not digging this storyline at all.

    November 3, 2010 at 10:51AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Matt My reaction to this episode was basically, "meh." However, I, too, found it very interesting when Kozick said that either he or Tig is going to end up dead, and Piney said he's counting on that. I'm glad that *someone* still seems to remember that mere months ago (in the show) Tig murdered Donna on Clay's orders. The writers have so totally abandoned that story line and its fallout that you can almost forget it happened. But when you really stop and think about it, Donna's murder *should* still have a huge influence on how the Sons relate to one another.

      November 3, 2010 at 11:38AM EST
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    SallySue

    It was a good episode, but I think the reason I am so frustrated is because it is moving too slow! I wish it would move faster! I will be devastated if Abel was adopted out, but I don't think that will stop Jax from 1. Killing Ashby (which might happen anyways) and 2. getting his son back from the people that adopted him. I don't know the law on this, but I'm pretty sure that if someone's kid is stolen, regardless of if the father is on parole, and adopted out then found by the father again, then he gets his kid back. Just my thought.

    I don't think they'll kill any of the main characters (Chibbs, Tig, Jax, Gemma, etc.). I think it will mostly be SAMBEL and IRA people that get killed. Well, at least, I hope so.

    The Trinity/Jax thing is amusing, but kind of annoying, just like the Tara story line.

    It's all just moving too slow for me, but I read somewhere that Kurt Sutter said that this season was imperative to all the rest of the season (7 total hopefully), so I will suck it up and deal with the slow pace because I love the show.

    November 3, 2010 at 11:26AM EST Reply to Comment
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    RonA

    On Salazar:
    Doesn't Salazar say to Clay something like "hey, you can't kill me! I'm an MC President" and Clay respond to with like "I don't respect your bullshit MC!" ?

    So, fast forward to them all in the bathroom: The Bastards' (MC) President is there after going to Clay who went to Alveres about Salazar (making 4 MC Presidents total, present in the bathroom), in front of other Bastards, Salazar's Crew, SAMCRO, and Mayans. So, in the end, he demands the head of the guy who offed the Bastard (Member) who was stabbed in the head with a knife. It seems that in the shake down of things, the focus went off of Salazar but to the guy who really committed the crime. There was also the business of allowing Salazar's little crew to continue their usefulness to the Mayans, which was a SAMCRO move to appear to be working with their new partners in crime/truce-members.

    Make sense to anyone else?

    November 3, 2010 at 11:28AM EST Reply to Comment
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      sepinwall That's how the show tried to justify it, certainly, but it was so blatantly contrived to keep Salazar in play as a villain for the final episodes, when in reality, the Grim Bastards would demand Salazar's head just as much as the actual shooter's. If Alvarez is stripping Salazar of his cut/power anyway, why leave the obviously bitter, violent guy alive?

      November 3, 2010 at 11:34AM EST
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      Teklanika He even says to Jax he's going to kill him for that (when Jax put his cut in the toilet). Everyone just ignored that threat? Come on, man.

      November 3, 2010 at 11:41AM EST
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      Opie Agreed. From the first moment in that bathroom on it all just seemed so predictable and so far it has exactly unfolded as everyone's predicted.

      November 3, 2010 at 1:35PM EST
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    Mel

    I thought the ep was better than last weeks and actually had some action scenes! But I had no expectations going in so the ep couldn’t possibly disappoint me. There were some great girl power moments that I liked on one hand b/c it was a girl power moment but on the other hand I don’t think the show is about women being powerful it’s about the SONS being powerful and they continued to be hammered by Irish circumstance (This is my problem with Kurt. He’s too focused on his f***in wife that he has forgotten the show is about Jax and his struggle between right and might).



    Like

    Loved that the women took charge when Jimmy O arrived. Trinity rocked the house when she came up the stairs, got a shot off for distraction and grabbed Carrie Ann to protect her! You go Trinity-Jax would be proud of his little sis if he knew the truth! Loved that Gemma wanted to whack Jimmy O in the kitchen to protect her family and then Fiona turns on Gemma for Gemma’s own protection. My what a tangled Irish web we weave.
    I thought the exchange between Tig and Tara was funny. The boys made it to Belfast.-Tig Um thanks for letting me know-Tara
    I liked seeing Ryan Hurst’s long hair (this wouldn’t normally be a point of interest but you never see his hair down and Ryan Hurst is hot J)
    Liked the explosion but not the damage it caused! Why can’t Kurt just blow up the bad folks?
    Liked the moment between Jax and Trinity—already acting like siblings and they don’t even know it.
    Liked that Jax the felon is calling up the ATF agent for intel………funny!
    Thought the chat between Hale and Oswald in the café was funny. Oswald is this community business man and he’s rattling off the names of MC presidents like their his corporate board members!
    Charlie H continues to do well with his acting. He broke my heart at the end of the show when he looks over the carnage and you can just see on his face—I’m never gonna get my son at this rate.


    Dislikes

    While I liked the girl power moment, I think it is completely ridiculous in the frame work of the SONS world. Kurt continues to emasculate the men while giving the women scenes of power? I don’t get it.
    The barn scene—Jax was very clear that he didn’t trust the Irish or SAMBEL before they went on the protection run. Jax recognizes at the barn that Liam needed to be watched, sends Juice and Happy to do it and then they don’t follow Liam to the woods? Wasn’t “I’m going to MURDER a s***” a bit of a clue? And if Jax didn’t trust these people, why is all of SAMCRO hanging out in a barn with no lookouts at the door?
    Really Kurt…….we’re going to have some psychedelic moment where Jax sees his father after the explosion?
    The whole Salizar plot annoys me. This man should have been killed long ago. Let’s face it, the guy is not a criminal mastermind yet he survives, is allowed to overhear the SONS are out of town, happens to not be home when Tig stops by. And now he’s got my girl Tara tied up in a basement…………PLEASE!
    The SONS still aren’t winning. With four eps to go in the season, I’m with Jax –TIRED!
    Gemma is such a contradiction to me. On one hand she is a mother bear trying to whack Jimmy to protect her family and in the next breath she tells her son (whose child is missing) to concentrate his hate on killing the Irish pricks. Again I say at the top of my lungs a family involved with the fall out of a kidnapped child would be protecting Jax not encouraging him to kill. Believe me—he would not have the emotional or mental strength to deal with this issue. And the family would want to step up and handle the search for Abel so Jax would not have to.




    Quotes

    Do ya’ll need to call a vote? SAMCRO to SAMBEL
    You’re all hypocrites. Gemma to the Priest


    Questions

    Did Tara have the abortion before Salizar took her or was she on the way to the clinic?
    What is the admin’s back tat a sign of? Did she live a biker life at one time and that is why she is so helpful to Tara? Does she understand the MC world?

    November 3, 2010 at 12:27PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Opie I am convinced she hasn't had the abortion yet (even though it was dark when Salazar got them and she had said earlier that it would be in the afternoon). If Kurt now kills the fetus during the next couple of episodes stressful moments I might as well watch Eastenders.

      November 3, 2010 at 1:41PM EST
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      Guest Oh what a tangled web we weave that doesn't make any sense. The priest is keeping fi and kerriane safe from Jimmy and wants jax to kill jimmy. So if gemma kills Jimmy that goes against the priest's plans? He wouldn't protect them?

      November 3, 2010 at 9:47PM EST
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    Crystal

    Can someone tell me what exactly the tattoo was on admins back??

    November 3, 2010 at 1:23PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Opie The Tattoo on Margret's back didn't look like MC ink. It had a laughing skull in the center with 2 half banners on either side saying "Rock" and "Roll". Then under the skull it had a full banner that said "My Love"

      November 3, 2010 at 1:46PM EST
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      Cindy This is the only pic I can find of the tattoo

      http://twitpic.com/33ex13

      I don't know what it is from the pic but I don't see a laughing skull - to me it looks more like a groupie/fan of a band - it has musical notes between "rock" "roll" & in the middle it looks like "band" "My Love" is on a banner in the middle of a heart over cross bones. It looks like it has wing feathers (of a phoenix?) up either side & to me in the top left hand quadrant is the snout of an armadillo (?)

      November 4, 2010 at 8:42AM EST
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      Cindy Found a brighter image -

      http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12073977

      On the upper right quadrant is a gun grip & trigger but can't clearly see past the trigger - I'm wondering if that's "Guns n Roses" (?) could possibly be a rose for the fuzzy blob that is hiding what would be a barrel (not shown at all in the brighter pic) I still think that's an armadillo snout & tail above & below "rock"

      November 4, 2010 at 11:44AM EST
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