Review: 'Sons of Anarchy' - 'Brick': Ancient history
Clay, Gemma, Bobby and Juice are all dealing with bad pieces of their pasts
Roosevelt (Rockmond Dunbar) makes Juice (Theo Rossi) an offer he should definitely refuse.
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"I had John Teller killed while I was bedding his wife." -Clay
There are three main stories in "Brick," each of them dealing in a way with a bit of ancient history for the club and/or its members. In one, Clay and Gemma each scramble to gain control of John Teller's letters, and we finally get confirmation from Clay that not only was JT's death not an accident, but that Clay was the one who orchestrated it. In another, Roosevelt continues to pressure Juice to inform on the club in exchange for keeping his bi-racial identity a secret. And in the third, Otto demands that the club finally get around to solving Luann's murder after that story was dropped like a hot rock late in season 2.
The Otto/Georgie/Bobby story was solid - once you've brought Tom Arnold into your show's orbit, David Hasselhoff isn't a significantly bigger leap - though I still don't feel like we have any idea who killed her. The club's just assuming Georgie did it, and have suspended his sentence while they take advantage of Georgie's Japanese business contacts to screw over Jacob Hale and stop Charming Heights from being built. Kurt Sutter's only an occasional actor, but he has terrific screen presence in this role (and as Margos Dezerian on "The Shield") and gives real weight to Otto's frustration at suffering so much for a club that doesn't seem to care about him as anything but a tool. His scenes with Gemma(*) and then Bobby provided gravity to the front and back ends of the episode, even if Bobby's lie almost surely promises more trouble down the road.
(*) Am I right in thinking this is the first time Sutter and Sagal have acted opposite each other on the show? My recollection is that all of Otto's previous visitors were either members of the club or feds like Stahl and Potter.
But I found the other two stories problematic in different ways, because of how much or how little they went into the ancient history.
With Juice, the show has still failed to explain why being Puerto Rican is okay with SAMCRO but being black is so terrible that Juice would risk being found out as a rat (or a thief of the cartel's coke). I know Sutter has explained it to an extent on his blog, but that's not the same thing. Juice is now doing incredibly stupid things for Roosevelt(**), all with a motivation that isn't remotely clear within the context of the show.
(**) And I hope at some point the show goes a bit deeper into Roosevelt's feelings about exploiting Juice's race to get to the club. Here, his concern seems mainly about how it'll look, but how does the man feel about going up against a club where being black (or even half-black) is such a taboo that Juice would do whatever Roosevelt tells him? Does that make him dislike the Sons even more? Give him any kind of guilt over what he's doing to Juice?
And at the risk of contradicting myself, I felt that the Clay/Gemma/Wayne plot spent too much time on backstory - or, rather, on a story I've never been incredibly interested in.
The club's origins, Clay's rise to power, the way JT turned into the man who would write that manuscript, etc., are all key parts of the show's foundation. But the way Sutter has chosen to present those details - mainly at the start of the series(***), and then again a bit during the Belfast storyline last year - has never made it feel as vital as what's happening to Jax and company in present day. Sutter doesn't seem to want to do flashbacks, and that's certainly his right - especially since other shows lean on the device as a crutch - but listening to Clay, Gemma, Wayne and Piney talk around and around about things that happened decades before the series began so often falls flat to me. This is important information for whatever conflict is coming next between Jax and Clay, so perhaps an episode like this is necessary as part of the season as a whole, but as an hour's viewing experience, it was less than thrilling.
(***) If you go back and look at my earliest reviews of the show on the old blog, you'll see that I wasn't fully on-board with the show's early episodes, which featured a lot of Jax sitting on the clubhouse roof, reading the manuscript and wondering about these old stories. This season has definitely been a return to the show's roots, but some of those roots were stronger than others.
It also doesn't help that Clay, as written and as played by Ron Perlman, is such an internalized character. He can get chesty with Piney or other rivals, but he so rarely reveals anything of himself in quieter moments. That can be useful for mystery - until now, it's been ambiguous whether Clay actually played a role in JT's death, or if it was something Gemma and Wayne were keeping from him - but is less interesting when we get a scene like the one where Clay confronts Gemma in the Teller-Morrow tow office. As with Roosevelt in the Juice storyline, I feel like I have very little sense of how Clay actually feels about any of what's going down. That may come later, along with more details about why he feels he was justified in having his buddy whacked, but a lot of Clay's scenes tonight felt flat to me. I was more invested in Opie's reaction to Lyla's birth control - a much less important story in the scheme of things - than I was about who gained possession of the letters.
Again, episodes like "Brick" are often necessary in the context of a season-long story arc. When we get to the end of the year and have a chance to watch these all again, it may seem much stronger. But in the context of the week-to-week, it wasn't one of the stronger hours of the season to date.
What did everybody else think?
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October 4, 2011 at 11:10PM EST Reply to CommentI liked that we finally have a confirmation of Unser being in love with Gemma, with Clay's comment that Unser must be worried about whether Gemma betrayed him, too, by lying about the motivations behind John Teller's murder. It's always been interesting how the show hints at some history between Gemma and Unser, but now I just want more - and that's frustrating given how tediously the show handles this kind of backstory.
fed actually i think that comment clay said to unser was clay's way of telling unser that if he told gemma, all he would accomplish is to hurt gemma by telling her the love of her life betrayed her.
October 5, 2011 at 5:54PM ESTTeklanika
October 4, 2011 at 11:24PM EST Reply to CommentThis season has been awesome. It reminds me of the fantastic season 2 in that the tension is building all over the place. Between Piney and Clay, Juice, Tara and Gemma, Clay and everyone.
The club is teetering on the edge of completely falling apart. Can't wait to see how it plays out.
Alex
October 4, 2011 at 11:26PM EST Reply to CommentI think this *was* the first time Sutter & Sagal have acted opposite each other. It was oddly thrilling! I agree that Sutter has some kind of presence. He manages to make Otto somewhat creepy, but pathetic as well.
Rob And Dayton Callie has acted with Katey and her TV husbands, Perlman and O'Neill, but I can't recall him having a scene with Sutter.
October 5, 2011 at 9:08AM ESTdylan
October 4, 2011 at 11:26PM EST Reply to Commentwow, i was on the opposite side. strongest, most tense episode of the season. that entire scene between clay & gemma where both figure out what each other is going to do while playing nice was terrifying/thrilling TV.
This is going to end with Gemma killing Clay but im very interested in how it gets there
littlehottamale
October 4, 2011 at 11:28PM EST Reply to CommentI think back to Season 1 when Juice was helping Tara get the bullet out of the Irishman's butt ... Tara thanked Juice and gave him a lot of credit for assisting her... later on, Gemma thanked Tara for the ego boost to Juice since Juice allegedly did not normally get positive reinforcement.. now I cannot help but wonder if a abnormally deep-seated insecurity is informing Juice's succumbing to Roosevelt so easily..
Oscar
October 4, 2011 at 11:36PM EST Reply to CommentI enjoyed all of the episode. In fact most of my buddies on Twitter ad Facebook enjoyed it too. I've been invested in this show since the first episode and finally unraveling the truth is exhilarating. A fair amount of talking is necessary to explain what is going on but I enjoy it more than I would a flashback. It'd be flashing back to a time period I don't know with actors that I don't tune in to watch. And how much of the episode would have to be dedicated to this flashback you see so interested in.
Truth be told flashbacks tend to eat up precious time. I'd much rather hear it from the characters I've come to know and love.
season one fan
October 4, 2011 at 11:42PM EST Reply to CommentIt seems that Jax is just being treated as filler by Kurt. I would like more Jax and a lot less Gem a and Clay. I am with Alan on not being too interested in this story line.
UnHoly Diver
October 4, 2011 at 11:48PM EST Reply to CommentIn one of his "WTF" postings on YouTube, the subject of flashbacks was broached. I can't remember the exact reasons, but Sutter said that he does not like to do them, and has no plans for any. So, you'll have to be content with the way he's currently presenting the JT storyline.
troopermsu I think he said flashbacks are a lazy way to tell a story.
October 5, 2011 at 7:39AM ESTCarla
October 4, 2011 at 11:49PM EST Reply to CommentMy main interest in this show, unlike you, is the mythology arc so tonight's episode has definitely been my favorite one this season so far.
ct
October 4, 2011 at 11:59PM EST Reply to CommentDefinitely one of the best on tv--Breaking Bad, Dexter, the two others in my opinion--this was a great episode full of tension, did not expect that tonight
ct
October 4, 2011 at 11:59PM EST Reply to CommentDefinitely one of the best on tv--Breaking Bad, Dexter, the two others in my opinion--this was a great episode full of tension, did not expect that tonight
Matthewowen32
October 5, 2011 at 12:13AM EST Reply to CommentI totally agree with you Alan that this was a building block episode for later in the season. I'm actually pretty interested in the Clay/JT story line. Always have been since those Season 1 rooftop readings. The thing that is really killing me this season is by far the Juice story arch. It just doesn't make sense. You would think that just informing the club in an honest manner that he is half black would amount to much less of a punishment then stealing drugs from the cartel and dealing with the new sheriff. You see Otto go through so much and NEVER say anything to the law. To see Juice crumble so fast and even contemplate it is strange. I'm still all in on SoA. Favorite show. Not as riveting as BB or as emotional as MM but it's good fun. Keep up the good work Alan.
borntoolate
October 5, 2011 at 12:38AM EST Reply to CommentI don't like the Juice storyline at all. Why did he stupidly steal an entire kilo? Linc told the sheriff he needed a couple of grams, the sheriff told Juice he wanted a "sample"; why didn't he just go out, buy some and give them that? Surely an outlaw biker could score some coke if he needed to, no? It would have bought him and the club some time and thus been more in character. And I'm not on board with the idea that he's out of SOA if they learn he's part black, either. It'd have made more sense if he just went to the club, stated his case and they let him screw with the sheriff's mind for a while.
CPETE I don't like the Juice storyline either, but to be fair he was trying to just get the couple grams when the pathetic looking prospect interuppted him and he knew he couldn't get it back into the crate in time. Then the Mayan showed up and it looked like he figured he would hide in the woods, wake up early and put the brick back, then he overslept and now he's screwed.
October 5, 2011 at 11:55AM ESTrusty4272 I couldn't agree more. Why not just buy some coke and give it to Roosevelt? Stealing (although know he didnt intend to) a kilo from the Cartel is way more riskier than coming clean to the club. Also, its gonna be quite obvious it was Juice that stole it, he was seen in the room by the Mayan member left behind.
October 5, 2011 at 2:24PM ESTtim_isola
October 5, 2011 at 1:50AM EST Reply to CommentThis so called "ancient history" is the most important piece of information to the overall arc of the show and what im most interested in and have been waiting 4 years to find out more about. It is going to lead to absolutely earth shattering moments with jax clay gemma and tara. I was fascinated by all of it and absolutely loved the episode.
bin It's not the thing I'm most interested in, but I'm right with ya Tim in that I think it's the pivotal piece on which all the rest of the story, not just season, turns. It's the thing that's been alluded to, the thing that could make the Warrior Queen go green around the gills, the "unnamed thing" ... and now it's been named, admitted to, confirmed. I loved seeing Gemma and Clay start to unravel; this is the first time since the start of the show that they've been at odds within their alliance. She didn't tell him about the rape, but it was to protect him and the club, not because she had different end-game agenda. This time, there's an actual division of intent. I too thought it was a terrific episode. It was a powerful building block ... "Brick" ... it's an apt title.
October 5, 2011 at 1:32PM ESTNola
October 5, 2011 at 1:51AM EST Reply to CommentI have always been fascinated by the mythology/history of what happened to JT. I think everyone assumed his death wasn't an accident, but tonight was the first time that was ever confirmed by Clay and I thought it was perfectly shocking reveal, even if it was one I had been expecting since the beginning. The reason why it is so vital to the story is what it will do to Jax (and the rest of the club, who besides Tig? Have no idea what really went on) Let's not forget that until Abel was kidnapped and at various times after that Jax has resented and hated Clay for MUCH smaller issues. What will happen when he finds out Clay KILLED his father?? I absolutely DREAD and can't wait for that scene. We've seen Jax lose his temper over mundane issues so there's no telling what he'll do (not to mention Gemma has also known all along, and I don't think he'll give her time to explain that Clay lied to her too or even that he'd care).
I thought this episode was excellent. The tension kept building and building throughout the episode as people lied and lied some more to
one another and it kept me on the edge of my seat, eagerly awaiting next week's episode.
Leo2
October 5, 2011 at 2:24AM EST Reply to CommentI thought this was a good episode, though I agree there are real problems with the Juice/Sheriff story line. At least you can find some rationalization for Juice to do what he is doing - Roosevelt is telling him that it's for the benefit of the club and Juice did vote no on the cartel vote and wants to end the club's involvement in drugs. It's a stretch I know but it's something.
I also am not sure why Lyla is still working in porn if Opie is so against it. That just seems off. And he's so itching to have kids with Lyla what happened to his kids with Donna?
I was really happy with Clay's coming out and saying that he killed JT, and now we know it probably had something to do with his sabotaging JT's motorcycle. I guess we now know why Lowell Harland ending up dead (Old Bones?) in Season One and Clay and Tig were acting so suspicious.
So many secrets and the tension is really ratcheted up as to who is going to be around for next year.
CPETE I get that Roosevelt is telling him that it's for the benefit of the club, and I did think about Juice and his "No" vote. But bottom line is they are playing the storyline as Juice is cared they'll find out he is black. No matter how you slice it, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
October 5, 2011 at 12:29PM ESTIn the first episode I remember Opie saying that Lyla only does lesbian porn now, which is usually what happens when a porn star gets a BF or husband who is normal and doesn't like other men sticking their wife. But Opie still doesn't like her being in porn and probably thinks if she got pregnant and had 4 kids (Opie's 2 and Lyla's 1, plus a new one) at home she'd finally drop porn.
The Clay killed JT storyline is playing out exactly as I thought it would since season 1, except one twist, Gemma. I always assumed she was in on it 100%. Now it looks like whatever lie Clay told Unser is the same lie he told Gemma on top of the fact that Gemma said she was young and alone with 2 kids and knew JT was banging Maureen in Belfast. Clay wanted JT dead, so he could run the club, and as long as he got Gemma on his side, and Unser to cover it up he was golden, but now the past is coming back to haunt him.
Leo2 Yeah, there had always been that little bit of doubt when you wondered if Gemma were given the choice between Clay and Jax, who would she have chosen. Now it seems clear she's save Jax - for many reasons. Clay has become SUCH a villain this year (almost Stahl-like) and you just know Gemma will turn on Clay when she finds out he lied about JT all those years ago and that he's destroying his own club now. I think you saw Unser switch loyalties to Clay when he found out he was duped. It seems like Clay is toast just wondering if it will end up being by Gemma's hand.
October 5, 2011 at 2:11PM ESTCPETE Yeah, some other comment mentioned Ron perlman doing all his scenes without his shades so you could really see him emote with his eyes. That was a great choice because because it really helped to bring across the fact that Clay is really a manipulative SOB but that he had shades of dastardliness. Like his eyes were cold with Wayne, its clear he is just a tool to Clay. But they were different with Gemma, like they were saying "I don't like what this may to come to with the woman I love, but I'm probably gonna do it anyway". And lastly it really came across that he is really scared of Jax's retribution, and feels powerless against Piney's threat.
October 5, 2011 at 5:52PM ESTJust great acting all around from a damn fine actor.
Chitownskyline
October 5, 2011 at 2:37AM EST Reply to CommentGreat episode. I too am a big fan of the mythology and it was a like a pressure valve being released when Clay and Gemma finally acknowledged killing JT. Love even more how the pressure immediately began to rebuild with all the lies being told to continue protecting that secret. Clay is clearly willing to kill anyone that can expose the truth with no regard to how he will cover up the murders of Tara & Piney. It's clear that they are both in danger and it's clear from next weeks preview that Unser is not okay with his role in putting Tara's life at risk. Kurt has promised that this season ends bloody for the club and begins a sort of rebirth of SAMCRO...I must say I am loving the set up to that finale.
Chitownskyline
October 5, 2011 at 2:53AM EST Reply to CommentOh and I know people are frustrated with the Juice storyline either because Kurt hasn't explained it in the course of the show or because they just don't want to believe the club would be so coldly racist. Truth of the matter is that particular storyline is one of the most honest in the show. From an accurate & real historical perspective outlaw clubs do not allow black guys in. It's ridiculous and seems counter intuitive since they allow other minorities in but it's fact. And I for one appreciate that Kurt is expecting the audience to either trust him on this one or do their own research instead of dumbing it down for us and explaining it. Like it or not folks our SOA boys may be lovable at times but they are still not progressively minded. Note that Sheriff Roosevelt was the first and only black person we have ever seen in the clubhouse...that's not an accident.
And reading these forums for as long as i have, i get the sense most of the people here pride themselves on being intuitive, sharp, intelligent viewers who dont need things spelled out for them, i see the phrase "on the nose" tossed around here constantly lol, yet seeing that juice would actually go through stealing a brick of cocaine from the club to give to a cop as opposed to letting the club find out hes black isnt enough to show everyone just how real this is. Interesting....
October 5, 2011 at 9:47AM ESTMatthewowen32 I think most of us just can't believe that being black is worse than working with the police. Then again you may be right, I know these SoA boys can't do any wrong in my eyes. The season has still been very enjoyable
October 5, 2011 at 11:57AM ESTCPETE The club may be racist, the rule may be racist, but every other time someone in the club has been in a spot. Tig killed Donna, Jax striking the deal with Stahl, Bobby banging Luann, they went to someobody else in the club 'fessed up and formulated a plan. Someone mentioned in episode 1 that Juice seemed like he was on the lower rung of the club and got kicked around a bit, but you're telling me he has nobody to go to? Not Bobby who seems like the most level-headed? Or Jax or Opie who are in his age range? Or Chibs or Tig who he seems to pal around with the most. NOBODY in the club that he could say here is my choice be a rat or be black, I dont want to be a rat, lets figure something out.
October 5, 2011 at 12:35PM ESTI just don't feel in the narrative of the show that they have shown us enough for why Juice feels so cornered and desperate, apart from the fact that he is half black.
Swearin
October 5, 2011 at 4:14AM EST Reply to CommentI think Juice is a dead man by season's end. Either that or he is going to have to out himself to the MC, or possibly just Jax, who will then try to help him.
Eventually, the truth about JT's murder will come out and that, combined with the pressure from the Feds and the toll the drug running are taking on the MC's spirit, will destroy SAMCRO from the inside out. Then Jax will take over as Clay is banished or forced into retirement.
candee
October 5, 2011 at 6:46AM EST Reply to CommentAfter tonights show I ask myself when it comes down to it who would Gemma chose Jax or Clay, bc who ever it is will live and the other will die. Gemma is ruthless and as much as she is trying to protect Tara and Piney I do not believe she is naive enough to believe she can control Clay. Tonight proves the people that nominate the emmys do not watch SOA...the acting is spot on every show. The Juice storyline is over the top, but I trust the Sutter line of thought. Unser going to the sheriff to protect Tara just showed his hand and probably will die not from cancer.
I really like the Opie storyline he finally said tonight what we have all known..it does not work with Lyla. And was it just me or did they make Ima look pretty rough around the edges?
I think Piney is pretty smart and for him to lay his hand (and it felt like it was 4 aces) on the table to Clay means he has a lot in the works. Which makes me think about the powerful bond between Opie and Jax. I loved the show tonight and I truly wish if there are only going to be 13 shows a season they should all be 90 minutes long ;)
By the by I know Kurt is not the flash back man but then why did we get all the flashback preview teasers preseason commercials????
Bravo to the cast and crew again!!!!
Candee
CPETE Yeah Ima certainly didn't look as great as she did last time we saw her, dunno if that is a subtle commentary on how fast porn stars burn out and lose their looks or just bad wardrobe/makeup.
October 5, 2011 at 12:54PM ESTShe did look fantastic in just her underwear though, and Lyla in her hooker wear was quite fetching as well. From just a me-man, me-like woman standpoint I always love when Lyla is on screen either showing her midriff, or those awesome stems.
AC
October 5, 2011 at 7:22AM EST Reply to CommentAnyone else thought that Opie reminiscing about Donna was foreshadowing that his beef with Tig will come up again later this season?
rusty4272 I did catch that vibe. The fact that Opie and Piney know Clay orderd the hit and Tig carried it out is a gaping hole in SOA story arc.
October 5, 2011 at 2:27PM ESTtroopermsu
October 5, 2011 at 7:27AM EST Reply to CommentThe reason I always thought Georgie killed Luann is that he was beefing with her over talent, her body had bits of wood from a baseball bat on it, and Georgie liked to brandish a wooden baseball bat. He had motive, opportunity and regularly used the likely murder weapon. There did not seem to be any other plausible suspect.
Marcus I think Zobelle killed Luann...
October 5, 2011 at 10:36AM ESTDezbot I think Zobelle killed her, too.
October 10, 2011 at 1:47AM ESTtroopermsu
October 5, 2011 at 7:36AM EST Reply to CommentI found it interesting that Clay spent most of the episode sans sunglasses. He normally wears them, even indoors, for most of an episode. I felt Perleman's performance was subtle yet powerful. There was real hurt in those eyes. But is the hurt for what he has done to his friend John? What he's done to the club? To Jax? For what he thinks he must do to Piney and Tara? Or is he simply scared of what will happen to him if the club finds out the truth.
The Juice storyline doesn't grab me. I kept wondering why Juice doesn't simply go to the club and tell them he never knew his father and he has just been told by the sheriff his father's identity. Maybe that wouldn't work either. But his actions didn't make too much sense. If SAMCRO find out he's half black, he gets kicked out, probably with the requirement that he black-over his tattoos. But if they find out he's stealing, they kill him. Maybe Juice isn't very smart. But that isn't how he's been portrayed before now.
troopermsu
October 5, 2011 at 7:40AM EST Reply to CommentOne thing that might have been interesting was to have John's voice reading a part of one of the letters as Clay read it and seeing Clay's reaction to hearing his old buddy's voice inside of his head.
bfish
October 5, 2011 at 8:12AM EST Reply to CommentI'm another one who's fascinated with the JT backstory and its implications for the club and characters. Of course it's suspenseful to wait on what Clay will do with Tara, Piney, Unser, etc., but the real story to me is what will Clay do to Gemma? He knows that Gemma's burnt JT letter story is complete BS and that she's trying to protect all three aforementioned, and foremost, Jax. Clay is playing along; since we know Gemma is also pretty devious and has plenty of reasons not to trust Clay is she really going to believe that he was reassured that the letters are relatively harmless?
Susan
October 5, 2011 at 8:46AM EST Reply to CommentAm I supposed to believe that Juice would rather face the wrath of a Mexican drug cartel and have all hell break loose, including possibly the death of his brothers, rather than tell them he's bi-racial? This makes sense how?
Dave P
October 5, 2011 at 10:19AM EST Reply to CommentLet me start with the good. I'm truly enjoying this season much, much more than the Belfast season. All the tension feels up close, almost claustrophobic. And it was terrific that they just fessed up to who killed who 25 years ago. I was worried it would be double speak instead of straight talk.
What I am having trouble with is the Mcguffins. I'm with Alan, in that I just don't see the Juice issue. I had always assumed Juice was his nickname from Jesus, and that he was Cuban or Puerto Rican. I thought that was strange because both in the real world and the show world, biker clubs are predominantly divided by race. But it's small town, so he's in this group. But now if his father was black, they'll kill him? Hispanic=ok, black=death sentence?
And I've said this before but it still bothers me. Why type of future seeing psychic was John Teller supposed to be that he detailed who was going to kill him and why in letters......TO HIS MISTRESS? I get that JT was some sort of obsessive writer and wrote books and journals and letters, but these are supposed to be a series of love letters. Why is he telling Trixie about Clay and Gemma? What could be so damning in these letters that not only would it turn Jax against Clay, they are now seem to have the ability to turn Gemma against Clay, Wayne against Clay, and Wayne against Gemma?
CPETE Just to clarify, the Sons know or should I say "think" he is Puerto Rican, and his name is Juan Carlos (Potter and Roosevelt refer to him by his given name several times). I am assuming Juan Carlos, becomes JC, which becomes Juice.
October 5, 2011 at 12:47PM ESTLast season we heard a few of the letters to Maureen, and it was clear she wasn't just his mistress, she was his new love. He knew he had lost Gemma to Clay, he knew he was losing the hard edge needed to lead the Sons, and Maureen was the only person he felt he could talk to. From what I gathered in this episode the evidence that is turning Wayne, Gemma, and Clay against each other is that 1) Clay lied to Unser about why JT had to die, he told Unser JT was weak and was going to bring a war with the Mayans to Charming, the letters show that JT knew Clay was trying to kill him (Wayne said JT wrote that he suspected Clay had tried and failed twice already) and that he figured it was because Clay knew JT was trying to take the club straight. 2) This is not as clear as with Wayne, but it is inferred that Clay also lied and manipulated Gemma, last episode Gemma was crying to Tara about how hard those last days were with JT and why she drifted to Clay, its kind of clear to me that Clay told Gemma whatever he needed to tell her to turn her against JT and agree to having him killed, even if those things weren't necessarily true.
Bottom line those letters likely prove that Clay wanted JT dead and manipulated Wayne and Gemma into being co-conspirators.
svetlana People who have a problem with the juice storyline just need to Google outlaw clubs and they will realize that this is a known rule. I don't think its necessary to be spoon fed every little detail. If you want that, then watch network tv. I'm starting to think that Alan really doesn't get the show at all, and if that's the case then stop watching and recapping it. Because to keep harping on the race thing is getting annoying the question can be easily answered with a little research. It seemed like Chibs knew something was going on with Juice by the looks he was giving him throughout the episode. I don't think juice has any family and it seems that his biggest fear is being kicked out of the club which to him is family. That's probably why he is willing to play ball with Roosevelt. In my opinion this was the best episode of the season so far.
October 5, 2011 at 10:59PM ESTLeo2 It doesn't matter if you Google real biker gangs, the story line has to fit in with the world (of SOA) we've seen so far or it rings false. Bobby is Jewish and Gemma is half-Jewish, and in past seasons they openly fought with the racists/Nords and from some of the things said, part of it was based on principle.
October 6, 2011 at 1:52AM ESTI think it's interesting and good that Sutter is trying to deal with that aspect of real biker gangs, but to many of us this feels forced. Even "Big Bob" the biker guy who blogs on the official SOA site said, "As to Juice, I don’t think it matters that his dad is black. His dad is not trying to be in the club."
Dave P
October 5, 2011 at 10:19AM EST Reply to CommentWrite a comLet me start with the good. I'm truly enjoying this season much, much more than the Belfast season. All the tension feels up close, almost claustrophobic. And it was terrific that they just fessed up to who killed who 25 years ago. I was worried it would be double speak instead of straight talk.
What I am having trouble with is the Mcguffins. I'm with Alan, in that I just don't see the Juice issue. I had always assumed Juice was his nickname from Jesus, and that he was Cuban or Puerto Rican. I thought that was strange because both in the real world and the show world, biker clubs are predominantly divided by race. But it's small town, so he's in this group. But now if his father was black, they'll kill him? Hispanic=ok, black=death sentence?
And I've said this before but it still bothers me. Why type of future seeing psychic was John Teller supposed to be that he detailed who was going to kill him and why in letters......TO HIS MISTRESS? I get that JT was some sort of obsessive writer and wrote books and journals and letters, but these are supposed to be a series of love letters. Why is he telling Trixie about Clay and Gemma? What could be so damning in these letters that not only would it turn Jax against Clay, they are now seem to have the ability to turn Gemma against Clay, Wayne against Clay, and Wayne against Gemma?ment...
KJ
October 5, 2011 at 10:50AM EST Reply to CommentHidden motivations have always been at the heart of SOA, but I feel like this season is over-relying on secrets and lies, and that is what's driving every single plot line, often needlessly. It's starting to feel redundant. Three separate trips to Tara's desk drawer? Really?? When Bobby lied to Otto about Georgie, I didn't wonder IF this would come back to bite the club in the ass, but how and when. I still love the show and have high expectations for the rest of the season, but this is what concerns me at the moment.
Timm S
October 5, 2011 at 11:53AM EST Reply to CommentThe scene with Sutter & Sagal was great, and it makes it seem as though Otto's not long at all for this world. Sutter wanted to have one scene on the show with him and his real life old lady in the same scene. Pretty cool to watch.
Juice is obviously terrified about the reality of being a black guy in the club, and his actions are irrational as a result. The only part I don't really buy into is his willingness to go along with Roosevelt's plan, given how much police/ATF/FBI crap this club has dealt with over the past few seasons. While being black would get him kicked out and POSSIBLY murdered, being a rat is an automatic death sentence, irrational fear aside. Juice would know that intuitively. I believe his fear is real, and based in the reality of being in a MC, but his actions don't ring true. Seems like Jibs knows something is up watching Juice always working his phone and going silent a lot.
It was interesting to see Clay really fear Jax in this episode. Clay appears to know Jax can destroy him, and knows he will if he finds out the truth. And that he said out loud that he had JT killed was quite the reveal. Unser felt betrayed and nobody trusts Clay anymore. With his circle getting smaller and smaller, and his failing hands, Clay is getting increasingly more irrational and fearful every episode. I think Perlman is doing a helluva job portraying how fearful and vulnerable Clay suddenly is.
It's fun to see the boys back in Charming doing what they do best. Oh, and HOFF! And he has a big penis!! Such a subtle actor, that guy. All in all, I really enjoyed this ep for what it was and what it set into action for later int he season.
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