Review: 'Downton Abbey' returns to PBS for season 2
Class barriers start to come down, but the storytelling gets soapier
- Critic's Rating B+
- Readers' Rating B+
Mr. Bates (Brendan Coyle) and his Anna (Joanne Froggatt) in season 2 of "Downton Abbey."
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NOTE: While "Downton" season 2 has aired in its entirely in the UK and some other countries, the spoiler policy on this blog says that if it hasn't aired yet in the US, it's a spoiler. So those of you who have seen the whole thing (including the Christmas special, which I haven't as yet) can certainly weigh in with your opinion on it all, but any discussion of plot specifics is not okay and will be deleted. I won't be doing weekly write-ups of this for a number of reasons (not least of which is the knowledge disparity between the different audiences), but will come back after the season ends on PBS so we can all discuss things in great detail.
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January 5, 2012 at 10:51AM EST Reply to CommentMichelle Dockery as Lady Mary is more than enough reason to watch. She's a great actress
RP I agree. I was re-watching the first series last week, and thought that all the Lady Mary stuff would have been ridiculous with a lesser actress, but Michelle Dockery sold it really well -- enough to make me care about her stupid #firstworldproblems.
January 5, 2012 at 12:02PM ESTHudders #firstclassproblems
January 5, 2012 at 12:16PM ESTVanessa Totally agree. I think Lady Mary is actually the most complex, best developed character on the show over the two seasons. With a worse actress, her character would just be one-note. I love Dame Maggie Smith (seriously, who doesn't love her) but in terms of both best character and best acting, I think Michelle Dockery deserves a LOT of credit.
January 5, 2012 at 10:07PM ESTLemora Martin A first rate actress can be better than her material, and Michelle Dockery knocked my socks off. I wondered why the execrable Keira Knightley got cast in so many film roles in recent years that MD would've handled brilliantly, were she not too tall for the likes of Johnny Depp, James MacAvoy, and other shrimps. Does she do mostly stage roles? I've seen Season 2 and the Christmas Special. I've also read a detailed synopsis of Season 3 and...Whoa Nelly! If you think Michelle D. has been called upon to give gravitas and credence to some improbable and/or ridiculous dialogue/situations, wait until you see what is in store for Mary! I can't wait until Season 2 is over on PBS and we can discuss the whole thing in detail!
January 7, 2012 at 8:59PM ESTJennifer Lemora Martin, you've seen a detailed synopsis of season *3*? How's that possible?
January 8, 2012 at 5:33PM ESTLemora Martin This is in reply to Jennifer. You can find it by Googling Downton Abbey Season 3. Then click on HubPages.com. It should come right up. But, Be Warned: There are major spoilers.
January 10, 2012 at 12:39AM ESTnic919
January 5, 2012 at 11:08AM EST Reply to CommentIs PBS airing the Christmas special as part of Season 2?
Jeff Holmes I don't see any way they can't, as it contains important plot.
January 5, 2012 at 11:42AM ESTnic919 Having seen it, I don't disagree, but the PBS listings don't make it clear that they are airing it.
January 5, 2012 at 12:33PM ESTlt PBS is airing the Christmas special as part of season 2. It will be the 7th and final episode, airing on February 19.
January 6, 2012 at 4:00PM ESTJeff Holmes
January 5, 2012 at 11:40AM EST Reply to CommentI have watched the entire second season including the Christmas Special. I agree with Alan's review, but I will say the Christmas Special functions (to me at least) as the true season finale. It's not a one-off as I expected it to be, and it moderately improved my opinion of the second season as it advanced some plot lines (e.g. Bates') quicker than expected.
I'd be interested to hear Alan's take on it and how it changes his view of the second season.
nmlop I agree 100%, Jeff. I am actually watching season 2 for the second time and could barely get through episode 3 (which in my opinion is the worst one - followed closely by episode 5). But a lot of the developments are redeemed by the Christmas special. It had some weak points, but yeah, made the whole season more cohesive and wrapped up. (And omg so much better than the Doctor Who special!)
January 5, 2012 at 12:27PM ESTGreat review Alan, made me think about some aspects of the show differently. I'm glad you're covering it this way!
jmr1948 Same here. I thought, mistakenly, that the Christmas Special was a one off. But it very importantly advances virtually every plot line. I also agree that this is ultimately melodrama, but great melodrama in the tradition of Dickens. I didn't realize how hooked I was until the last, unexpected development in the Christmas Special. I had such a strong emotional reaction. Won't say good or bad, just very powerful for me.
January 5, 2012 at 4:14PM ESTCecil Battlewaithe Yes, at first I thought it was weird that they decided to frame the entire special within the surroundings of an "Upper Class Twit of the Year" competition, but it worked.
January 5, 2012 at 4:24PM ESTGenevieve I agree. The Christmas special redeemed season 2 quite a bit for me. I was a big fan of season 1, but the beginning of season 2 is choppier, and yet, dragging certain storylines. It was also soapier than I like my shows to be. Nevertheless, the Xmas special gave some resolution to a number of storylines so it felt worth the wait in the end. :)
January 6, 2012 at 2:17AM ESTTausif Khan
January 5, 2012 at 11:41AM EST Reply to Comment"I won't be doing weekly write-ups of this for a number of reasons (not least of which is the knowledge disparity between the different audiences), but will come back after the season ends on PBS so we can all discuss things in great detail."
I think that is fine but Dan should as he thinks it is one of his favorite shows. I understand he is quite busy during this time but I would think he would make time for his favorite show. Even if there were other things keeping you (Alan) busy I am pretty sure that you would still find time to blog about Terriers or Men of a Certain Age even though next to no one watched them. So I think it is important to feature shows at Hitfix where the masses can take part in the discussion as PBS is accessible to anyone with a television box. He (Dan) should be sharing why he feels that way. There is a lot to discuss in this series critically and is worthy of television critical blogging.
Leon
January 5, 2012 at 11:42AM EST Reply to CommentWith this show I'm one of those guys Alan mentioned. I like to think I'm a pretty open-minded viewer but I can't imagine I'd be into something like this, just not my speed. That said, I think the introduction to this review was finally enough to guilt me into giving the first series a shot.
Tausif Khan Anyone who thinks that Mad Men is a great show and is okay with Mad Men's pacing and tone should give this series a shot.
January 5, 2012 at 11:48AM ESTMoreTears @Tausif Khan -- I have seen all there is to see of Downton Abbey to date (Christmas special included), and I certainly like it, but it is far closer to being Pan Am than Mad Men. In fact, when Pan Am debuted and every US critic was going on about how Pan Am was trying to be Mad Men (which was poppycock) and failing, I was noting, mentally, that they should be comparing Pan Am to Downton Abbey, which had already been a big success on American BROADCAST television (but of course comparing a US and a UK show would be thinking too outside the box for critics). Like Pan Am, Downton Abbey is a populist, highly-Romanticized window into the past, with just as much of an emphasis on the superficial, crowd-pleasing tropes of soap opera drama. It is fun, but it is not a realistic exploration of its era, or interested in the less-obvious aspects of the human psyche, and it is certainly not artistically serious (three things that I believe ARE true about Mad Men, and raise it above the level of soap opera). Yes, Downton is better than Pan Am, but that is a difference in quality and not in essence.
January 5, 2012 at 12:38PM ESTnic919 The biggest difference between Downton Abbey and Pan Am is that the entire Downton Abbey cast is top notch and they can pull off cheesier storylines than weaker actors.
January 5, 2012 at 10:04PM ESTTausif Khan @MORETEARS
January 6, 2012 at 2:54PM ESTI wasn't talking about quality. In fact I am specifically avoiding a discussion on quality. I am talking about watching something that has a different tone and pacing than an action film.
This is a problem I had with Moffat's Sherlock. It's tone and pacing was too jumpy and quick. It went with a lot of quick cuts and action. The highlighting of different clues in word form were particularly off putting. I felt the tone and pacing were more akin to a person accustomed to be a fan of CSI and other CBS alphabet soup procedural crime dramas.
Mad Men is slow and contemplative. It allows people to focus visual communication as well as verbal and same is true of Downton Abbey. Neither show has a lot of action and is simply the exploration of the lives of individuals at a different time period than the present.
Pan Am falls into the problem of trying to grasp massive audiences by having a singular story of the week like CSI and also having an action story line whether it is Kate Cameron's spy adventures (that last episode surely did end with a bang didn't it?) or Nazis invading France. Pan Am relies on big broad action to tell its story.
Downton Abbey has also incorporated large events into its story but not to "say these are the people who changed the world" as Pan Am does but to say "these are the events of the world in which these people live let's see how they deal with these issues"
Downton Abbey share more of its storytelling intent with Mad Men then Pan Am (as of the first season).
As to your comment that American critics don't compare English shows with American shows I don't know where you got that idea as you are engaging in a conversation where an American has compared Downton Abbey to Mad Men. I also just compared Sherlock to American crime procedurals.
In terms of professional critics they do it all the time to help American audiences understand or connect with an English program they are reviewing and help them understand the context of English programs.
Tausif Khan
January 5, 2012 at 11:47AM EST Reply to CommentI ask this question seriously: Why has Hitfix dedicated two bloggers to covering True Blood when one of them clearly sees that there is no critical value left to covering it? That one of the bloggers believes that they should stop watching the program because it is so bad?
Why even though there is critical interest in Downtown Abbey does it get less coverage?
marilyn6@aol.com I assume they both have different views. I would even consider watching True Blood, so yes I agree, Downton is a equisite show. Dowager Countess and all that pomp and circumstance, it is really fun. They also seem to do well with one phone, that no one knows how to work. Charming.
January 6, 2012 at 1:11AM ESTTausif Khan Dan Fienberg mainly posted his reviews of True Blood because the regular recapper took a while to writer her reviews (I am assuming the difference being Fienberg got screeners while the regular recapper didn't) and readers would get anxious to read about the show. I don't think they had the same perspective but letting readers read about the show early was the stated goal of the Fienberg posts.
January 6, 2012 at 2:57PM ESTleocadio_penelas_gamusino
January 5, 2012 at 11:57AM EST Reply to CommentI completely agree with you about the soap opera-ish elements, which got ridiculous towards the end of the season, and how everything felt so rushed.
FWIW, I thought the Christmas special was the best episode of the season by far
downbound
January 5, 2012 at 12:00PM EST Reply to CommentI've seen the whole thing and I would advise people to stick with it through the bad soapy elements because the Christmas Special is so good, it more than makes up for all of that.
RyanT
January 5, 2012 at 12:32PM EST Reply to CommentI liked S2, though I probably liked S1 more. BUT the Christmas episode, for me, definitely "redeems" S2. Like someone said above, it's the TRUE finale to the season in almost every sense. Storylines are resolved. New ones are hinted at. And just... it's Christmas.
S2 MVPS: Michelle Dockery and Maggie Smith.
fresser28
January 5, 2012 at 2:41PM EST Reply to CommentYou're right, Alan. In S2 DA has graduated into full fledged soap but it's still miles ahead of any American equivalent.
It's funny; I hadn't realized how many much-loved series I refuse to watch because the subject matter seems totally alien, too depressing or completely boring to me. Despite the many friends who have urged me to see them, I never could get into The Wire (depressing), Breaking Bad (alien and depressing) or Friday Night Lights (alien and boring). And yet I've eaten up things like Downtown, Deadwood, Mad Men and Justified (all varying degrees of alien and/or depressing) with a spoon. Go figure.
It may have something to do with lead actors (I can never think of Bryan Cranston as anyone but Tim Watley and Kyle Chandler is one of the most colorless actors I've ever seen), but I think the real reason one attaches to a series is ephemeral. Something either grabs you or it doesn't.
fresser28 Sorry, DownTON.
January 5, 2012 at 2:43PM ESTVanessa I love Friday Night Lights and Mad Men (although I think I'm in a minority in thinking that the latter's best two seasons were its first two...), but I feel similarly about the Wire. I watched the first season and it was very good but not re-watchable (and I have yet to pick up the subsequent seasons). I get the praise to some degree - it's absolutely realistic, generally well acted, and isn't dumbed down in any way. Just not my cup of tea.
January 5, 2012 at 10:18PM ESTVanessa And just to further concur, I agree that Downton at its worst is definitely superior to most of what's on TV...I just stopped paying for cable and aside from football and the Good Wife, there's nothing worth watching on network television...
January 5, 2012 at 10:25PM ESTADM
January 5, 2012 at 3:34PM EST Reply to CommentMary the most traditional? With the dead Turk in her bed?
sepinwall Her stories are the most traditional. She's the one stuck in "the marriage plot."
January 5, 2012 at 8:12PM ESTcanadadry
January 5, 2012 at 5:19PM EST Reply to CommentThe Doweger Countess, well she is enchanting and very funny as Mary's grandmother. Her quote "what's a weekend?" the whole show is so ever satisfying . I can't wait till I see all of these actors and a brilliant series,
canadadry
January 5, 2012 at 5:26PM EST Reply to CommentWrite a comment...Leon don't beat yourself up. It is a fabulous show, but some ways , more for women. My husband loves it. Breaking Bad it isn't I don't think BB will air till this summer. I wish it comes sooner
Craig Ranapia
January 5, 2012 at 9:31PM EST Reply to Comment"By having the Granthams interact more with the world as the events of the Great War begin to knock down class barriers, I was vastly more interested in what those characters were up to the second time around."
I actually felt the opposite - as if, in a funny way, the First World War was so serious it weighed down the story telling. And respecting your spoiler rule, there's a plot involving Lord Grantham in the back end of the season that came out of nowhere, was so far out of character you could hear the plot creaking, and went nowhere in particular.
Viginti While narratively that plot didn't eventuate I felt that it played an important role character wise, after all it had to have an effect on how he judged the actions of his different daughters.
January 5, 2012 at 10:02PM ESTCould it have been cut? Sure, but I still think that it had its purpose, though I guess we can't say much more about all of that.
@Vignti: Without breaking the spoiler rule, that's a fair point I hadn't properly thought through. I just wish Fellowes had set it up and paid it off a lot better.
January 6, 2012 at 12:51AM ESTCanadianskeezix It was still a superior to the plot involving "possible resurrections" (to borrow Alan's vague wording).
January 6, 2012 at 2:10PM ESTSome of the soapier plots in Season 2 were sillier than Season 1, and thus the overall quality of the second season paled somewhat in comparison, but nonetheless I'd say if one enjoyed S1 one would still S2. And I agree with others who say that the excellent Christmas special largely redeemed S2.
@Canadianskeezix: When it comes to frothy soapy ridonkulosity. nothing beats Lady Mary's Turk-killing vejayjay of Doom from series one. But in a weird way, I think World War One was a wet blanket - the campy melodramatics don't really sit well with mained soliders in the ballroom. :)
January 6, 2012 at 2:33PM ESTVanessa
January 5, 2012 at 10:36PM EST Reply to CommentI'm glad you decided to take a look at the show, Alan...as far as I'm concerned it's better than most of what's on TV now, even if season 2 wasn't as good as season 1. I actually found both the upstairs and downstairs components compelling in seasons 1 and 2. I think Lady Mary is a really interesting character and I liked seeing the challenges Matthew faced in trying to incorporate himself into the world of Downton Abbey. The acting, the ambiance and the storylines are generally fine (with a few exceptions), but the major problem in my mind was the jumpiness of season 2 (some of the cuts are rather jarring) and overly quick resolutions to plotlines that would have been great...had they just lasted more than 20 minutes. With better pacing and editing (and the excision of one or two egregious plotlines), this would have been just as good as season 1. Having said all that, I loved the Christmas special and it actually DID bring together a lot of season 2 (and suggest directions that I'm hopeful the show will take in season 3).
marilyn6@aol.com
January 6, 2012 at 1:04AM EST Reply to CommentDID I see someone mentioning PAN AM in the same blog as DOWNTON ABBEY. pleeese, nooo. It is even in the realm of comment. could not wrap myself around the wire or friday night lights, but regard those as very good shows I do not watch. No disrespect! DA is beqautiful! the writing, the sets, the acting.
To me nothing will touch Breaking Bad. I think the summer cannot come fast enough for Bryan, AARON Vince to bring us a real roller coaster ride. What a challenge they must have after last year. How can they live up to that?
Alan, I do think DA DOES WARRENT a comments from you or Dan. It really is a gem.
marilyn6@aol.com Lady Edith, ffinally, I have to say she must be, or FELLOWES wants her to be. When Carson collapsed, she was screeching "what about my dress"{!! still love the show
January 9, 2012 at 1:52PM ESTmarilyn6@aol.com Sorry, I forgot to say lady Edith is really stupid.
January 9, 2012 at 1:53PM ESTC
January 6, 2012 at 2:22AM EST Reply to CommentI had no interest in seeing what I thought was a stuffy British miniseries until I saw it on Leslie Knope's word cloud. I thought if Leslie loves it enough to make the word cloud, it must be good. And she was right, I loved it and can't wait for season 2.
Sareeta
January 6, 2012 at 8:24AM EST Reply to CommentOnce I forced myself to sit through a couple episodes of season 1, I found it charming. What I like best is how it actually feels like it is taking place back then. From the costumes and the manner of speaking to the way the actors and actresses compose themselves, it looks and feels very authentic. I find the "upstairs" stories more interesting than the soapy aspects of the servant's lives. I still need to watch the final episode of season 1.
I do not at all understand how anyone can compare this to Mad Men though. I mean, Downton is good, but the acting on Mad Men is superb and that show is so much more imaginative.
debbie
January 6, 2012 at 11:25AM EST Reply to CommentI kinda wish more analysis would be devoted to this show 'cause I didn't come across it until PBS Prime did a mini-marathon a couple of weeks ago with S1 episode 1 and 2. I couldn't really put my finger on what hooked me (I thought the performances were okay and the storylines got to be pretty over the top at times)...although I did really enjoy getting glimpses of the food they were serving, but that's just my bizarre interest in antiquated recipes. Oh well, at least I have a new show to watch.
Big D
January 6, 2012 at 10:54PM EST Reply to CommentFinally, a review that acknowledges that while this maybe a quality show, it is okay not to care about it.
OzK
January 7, 2012 at 6:52AM EST Reply to CommentOn the whole, I feel that season 2 (even with the addition of the excellent Christmas special) suffers from the time pressures arising from needing to capitalise on the success of season 1. The whole piece felt a little rushed, a little less well thought through, with certain plot lines that kind of fizzled. And, as Alan says, the pacing is questionable. But there is still much to enjoy, with Dowager Violet owning my single favourite one word line, that had me howling aloud with laughter. Despite the flaws I'm still a fan, and I look forward to season 3.
beet
January 8, 2012 at 2:44PM EST Reply to CommentDA is a fun but it's not in the same ballpark as MM. It's a lot lighter in terms of what it's trying to say and how it's written. DA is a soap opera with a lot of silly but fun plot points. MM seems to have a point in everything the characters do. Maggie Smith is awesome!
marilyn6@aol.com
January 9, 2012 at 2:50AM EST Reply to CommentJust the ticket . quote from the Dowager Countess from last year. Fabulous show.
Alan and Dan, you should review this show. Seem to treat it like a bad rash. You have decided not to regard DA as brilliant. Please give it a review next week
marilyn6@aol.com
January 9, 2012 at 2:52AM EST Reply to Comment"Just the ticket" as the Dowager Countess said last year.
Tonight was as amazing, beautiful. Alan, this should be reviewed weekly, It is the very best.
marilyn6@aol.com
January 9, 2012 at 2:56AM EST Reply to CommentI am going to watch this again, but did I see a few people walking into other bedrooms without knocking? Great show..
Chris
January 9, 2012 at 8:40AM EST Reply to CommentExcellent entertainment. Fortunately it is on PBS. If were on any of the major networks it would be like a football game- 20 minutes of the show and 40 minutes of commericals.
Nat King Kong
January 11, 2012 at 12:37AM EST Reply to CommentLoved season 1, but the first episode of season 2 the writers seemed to be throwing everything out there so quickly, it definitely felt rushed and sadly much weaker than season one. I also just rewatched Gosford Park, and, of course, that comparison doesn't help DA (it's pretty hard to match Gosford Park for upstairs/downstairs entertainment. Any of you who haven't seen it and enjoy DA, go watch Gosford immediately!).
marilyn6@aol.com
January 20, 2012 at 11:00AM EST Reply to CommentIT SEEMS DA is the most watched show on television. It even made the new york post in a gossip column. Maybe you can review it weekly. Most people love it. It is more talked about this season than last. Maybe it's those 18-49 yeqar old viewers that influence comment. Many bpeople are 53 and still like certain shows!
not_Bridget I'm older than 53 & remember loving the original Upstairs/Downstairs. I found the first series of Downton a bit soapy--featuring a guest appearance by The Fatal Bar of Soap, no less! Beautifully produced, of course.
January 29, 2012 at 1:04AM ESTSo far, I've found series 2 lacking. Why did they skip the first two years of the war? Important history was ignored and we missed some vital character development. Bates/Anna have been going nowhere & The Chauffeur/Youngest Daughter have been going nowhere. Now, in 1916, Lord Grantham has just began wondering why he can't go fight & the Two Younger Daughters have just begun wondering whether they ought to Do Something. Mary's eyebrows remain impressive. Isobel was spirited & polite in the first series & is now a harridan. O'Neill & Thomas (to date) are still villainous...
The charm-free Chauffeur name-checks The Easter Rising, Conscientious Objection & Socialism (as gave The Youngest pamphlets on Women's Suffrage last series)--just so Lord Julian can dismiss those nasty lower-class matters & get back to the soap opera. Except the wonky timing isn't helping the relationship stuff, either. There is NO spark between the Chauffeur & The Youngest....
Still, it's a pretty show. And some of the acting is fine. Weekly recaps would make it easier to razz on the show's failings here, but there are other places to do that....
I've read enough UK coverage to know the Christmas show is actually good. Even Caitlin Moran at the Times liked it--& her skewering of the earlier episodes was epic...