'Mad Men' - 'Hands and Knees': Do you want to know a secret?
Another Jon Hamm masterpiece as Don's lies threaten to catch up to him
Joan (Christina Hendricks) contemplates a big decision on "Mad Men."
A review of last night's "Mad Men" coming up just as soon as I give you a closer look at my walking stick...
"Get rid of it." -Don
"Hands and Knees" ends before we get to see Don take Sally to The Beatles' famous Shea Stadium concert, but the credits are accompanied by an instrumental version of the band's "Do You Want to Know a Secret?" - as apt a closing song choice as the show has used, given the number of secrets poisoning the atmosphere at Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce. And the episode's answer to the question posed in the song's title seems to be a definite "no."
Most obviously, the ghost of Dick Whitman comes back to haunt Don again when it eludes his and Pete's notice that the North American deal will require security clearances for the top creative people, and Pete has to flush a $4 million account (and take the blame for blowing it) to protect the man around whom everything at the agency revolves. ($4 mil is nice, but no Draper = no agency, no matter what a panicked, drunk Don tries to tell Pete.)
But when Don and Pete enter the partners meeting near the end of the episode, they're far from the only people in the room keeping something from the others. Lane's not revealing the real reason he's going back to London, nor how unhappy he is to be doing it. Joan's concealing the abortion she had after her post-mugging tryst with Roger got her pregnant(*), and Roger in turn isn't letting anyone know that in 30 days, the firm will be dead in the water without its most important client in Lucky Strike. The only one in the room who doesn't seem to be keeping something to himself (other than what Dr. Lyle Evans did to him) is Bert Cooper, and that's only because he's a figurehead who has nothing to do, and therefore nothing to hide.
(*) "Mad Men" perhaps unintentionally functions as a great advertisement for safe sex. Peggy gets pregnant the first time she has sex with Pete, before her birth control pills have a chance to work. Betty gets pregnant with Gene from a spontaneous roll on the floor of her childhood bedroom with Don, and here Joan, who we know had gone off her protection to have a baby with Greg, instead gets pregnant from Roger.
In talking with Trudy about the nature but not details of the Dick Whitman problem, Pete rails against those who "just walk through life, dragging their lies with them, destroying everything they touch." Leaving aside the hypocrisy of the rant, given the things that Pete has kept from Trudy, it still feels misguided. He's right to resent Don for needing him to kill the North American deal, but he also seems to envy Don for not feeling guiltier about who he really is and what he did in Korea, when we see throughout the episode how crippling that weight still is, even 15 years later.
This was another fantastic Jon Hamm showcase, maybe good enough to at least make him think twice about "The Suitcase" as his Emmy submission. I still think "The Suitcase" has more versatility, but the physical work he does here - first in showing the world closing in on him after Betty tells him about her interview, then in playing the panic attack at the apartment (and that beautifully-framed shot of Don looking very old and green in the gills as he studies his reflection) - is really remarkable, and either this or "The Suitcase" may be enough to finally get some awards love in a non-Cranston year.
This is a far bigger deal for Don than when Pete found out, because Pete was just a little weasel who wanted to use the information to get a promotion; at best, Don could outmaneuver him (as he did with Bert Cooper), and at worst, he could go hobo and Pete wouldn't care enough to send the authorities after him. But these G-men are the real deal, with enormous resources and no hidden agenda, and should they happen to stumble across Dick Whitman while conducting a routine hunt for Communist ties, he's in big trouble, and he knows it.
Don tells Faye that he's tired of running, but he also dismisses suggestions from both her and Pete that he could try to face the music and hope that 15 years would mitigate the crime. The thing about this particular secret is that it's one Don can never really escape. Dick Whitman is dead as far as the US government and military are concerned, so he's Don Draper until he either dies or goes to prison, always looking over his shoulder, waiting for someone else to come sniffing around his story.
And even though it was clear how much he wanted Betty to still love him after she learned the truth, and how relieved he always was around Anna Draper, he seems less pleased than he should that Dr. Faye has accepted the truth (or the abridged, slightly self-aggrandizing version of it he told her). There's a strange distance between them in the final scene, and after Faye leaves, Don finds himself really noticing Megan for the first time. Is Don so filled with self-loathing that he now intends to treat Faye like the famous Groucho Marx line about how he'd never want to belong to a club that would have him as a member? And having crossed the secretary barrier with Allison, will it be that much easier for him to take his lawyer up on the advice about what to do with Megan?
Though most of the episode's main characters are metaphorically on the hands and knees of the episode's title, begging for someone to get rid of their massive new problem, Lane is the only one who literally ends up in that position, thanks to a shocking blow from his father Robert's walking stick. Like Don, Lane has been running away from his life - not changing his name, but choosing America over his family, and then attempting to rub his father's nose in it with a trip to the Playboy Club to meet his "chocolate bunny" girlfriend Toni. Both Robert and Toni can tell that Lane is showing off for them, and Robert coldly and violently orders his son to come back to England to resolve things one way or the other with his wife and son. In that moment, with Lane crumpled on the floor of his apartment, forced to call his father "sir," we see where the PP&L organizational man - the man St. John Powell could count on to follow orders without hope of reward - came from, and as much as Lane fancies himself a mighty, hedonistic and progressive American, he's still capable of being cowed by British authority figures. And he's too embarrassed by what happened to admit to the other partners what happened.
And yet there's that moment in the deli where, for a half-second, Joan seems to be willing to contemplate a life where she keeps the baby and loses Greg. Roger is offering his usual half-assed proclamations of love(**), telling her "Maybe I'm in love with you," but Joan sounds very serious when he asks, "So you want to keep it?" She'd been prepared from the start to go through with the abortion as the sensible thing to do, but she drops her guard for a moment and gets smacked down when Roger immediately responds by saying, "Of course not." And where she was calm and friendly only moments earlier, there's a hard edge to the rest of their discussion as Joan accepts that this is the corner she's stuck in, and that Roger Sterling will never be the man to get her out.
(**) Clearly, the chemistry between these two characters, and actors, is off-the-charts, but Roger has never expressed the same depth of feeling for Joan that he has for either of the women he married. Matt Weiner told me once that when a post-heart attack Roger called Joan "the finest piece of ass I have ever had," that perhaps that was the most honest assessment of the relationship he'd ever offer.
So she goes to the abortion clinic by herself, and even in the waiting room where everyone knows what they're there for, Joan can't admit to the mother of the pregnant teen that she's there for herself. She invents a 15-year-old daughter, holding tight to the truth.
And of course Roger has a secret of his own to keep, and a bigger crisis to deal with - one that, unlike Don, puts him in actual danger of a heart episode before he pops a nitroglycerin pill under his tongue.
Little do Don or Pete know that they're dumping North American at a moment when the firm could really use that spare $4 million, since the increasingly-corporate American Tobacco has decided it's less interested in Roger's ability to wine and dine Lee Garner Jr. (and then cover up his indiscretions) than in streamlining advertising for all its brands. Lucky Strike is an account Roger inherited from his father, just as Lee Jr. got the company from his old man, but neither is a real decision-maker anymore, and Roger seems ill-equipped to survive in a world where a 12-martini lunch isn't the best solution to every problem, and where the names in his rolodex are dead, dying or as irrelevant as he is.
Roger enters that partners meeting, like the others, with a bit of information he'd love to have blacked out of the public record the way so much of the North American documentation was redacted, and it's unclear what his plan is. He got the 30-day extension from Lee because if the news went public immediately, SCDP would be doomed, as new clients would be reluctant to sign with an agency on the brink of financial ruin, while current ones might be tempted to get out early. But keeping the news a secret from his own colleagues, rather than recruiting Pete and the others to help, seems as dangerous as the last time a Sterling Cooper employee decided to keep a Lee Garner decision to himself, when Harry sat back and let Sal get fired.
With three episodes to go in season four, what kind of rabbit will Roger, Don and company have to pull out of their hats this time to top the creation of SCDP at the end of season three? Does Lee Jr. still have enough power that they could blackmail him over what Don knows?(***) Even if Roger tells everyone soon, can they possibly assemble a client roster to fill that void? (Would Don be willing to get on his hands and knees for Connie Hilton a second time?)
(***) And the anger in John Slattery's voice as Roger mentions "all the lies I've told for you" suggests that perhaps Roger also knows a thing or two about Lee Jr's orientation. Though if that's the case, and he's still so defeated about Lucky Strike, Don's knowledge would be sadly moot.Still, the possibility of the agency surviving without Lucky Strike does bring up the promising possibility of a Sal return in season five.
There's a sense of impending doom throughout "Hands and Knees," one that's certainly not gone as the episode ends. Joan tells Roger that a tragedy was averted, Lane says the firm is fiscally stable, and Megan assures Don that everything worked out, but in all cases, we know the truth, and how bad things really are.
At their farewell lunch, Lee Jr. tells Roger, "There's nothing you can do. Nothing you could do. That's just the way it is." Given the precarious state of things, is there anything any of these people can do to fix it?
Some other thoughts:
• An interesting, sympathetic Betty episode. She's trying to help Don repair the rift with Sally from last week, and is pleased (rather than jealous) to learn that Don got Sally those Beatles tickets. She covers for Don with the G-men because she has no choice - whatever she said to Henry a few weeks back, she doesn't hate Don, and he is the kids' father - but she hates secrets as much as Pete does, because they consumed her first marriage. She wants a more honest relationship with Henry, but even there, she can't tell him everything because she has no idea what Henry would do with the Dick Whitman info.
• Roger's rant about Pete's alleged screw-up with North American included the phrase "fucked up," but the audio was dropped on the word, just as it's been on the few occasions where "Breaking Bad" has also used the F-word, which is one of the few words you can't say even on basic cable. While cable isn't regulated by the FCC, channels like AMC not only have to deal with advertisers, but they have carriage deals with the various cable providers that stipulate that they won't include certain content like that. "Breaking Bad" creator Vince Gilligan said he used it a couple of times in that fashion because it was the only word that could make the point a particular scene needed, and I guess Matt Weiner and Jonathan Abrahams felt it was the only way to get the point across about how shocked the partners were by Roger's speech, even if it had to come with no audio for a half-second.
• Sally's reaction to Don's Beatles news is perfectly in keeping with the way many girls and young women responded to the Fab Four back in those days. The crowd at the Shea Stadium concert was so loud and frenzied that the band quickly realized no one could really hear them (check out how much John is just goofing around in their performance of "I'm Down") and was the beginning of the end of their career as a touring band.
• Lane's present for his absent son makes two Mickey Mouse gags in one night on cable, as the "Dexter" season premiere made memorable use of Mickey ears.
• Fathers and sons in the guest cast: W. Morgan Sheppard, who played Lane's dad, is the father of ubiquitous TV character actor Mark Sheppard, while JD Cullum (one of the North American guys) is son of John Cullum, who in previous seasons played Lee Garner Sr.
• This was a pretty dark episode, but there were a few brief moments of humor mixed in, like Don and Betty's lame playacting on the phone once it occurred to them that the government might be listening in, and Don telling Faye "You're not a real doctor" in the middle of his panic attack.
• Because Alison Brie is so tiny, I wonder if the costume and makeup people are deliberately having fun with how gigantic Trudy's stomach gets while the rest of her doesn't change at all. It seriously looked like she had a medicine ball hidden under that nightie.
• The $400 for Joan's abortion would have been about $2700 in today's dollars. And it was interesting to contrast the scolding OB/GYN with Joan's friendly relationship with her own doctor (who himself was far more patronizing to Peggy back in 1960). She's developed such a bond with him that she'd rather be told she was "ruined" by this guy than face the possibility of the "I'm very disappointed in you" speech from the doctor who's been helping her try to get pregnant at a relatively advanced age for 1965.
• Joan telling Roger, "Greg dying is not a solution to this" felt just a tiny bit meta, given the number of fans who have been rooting for Dr. Greg to die in combat (if not get fragged by his own men) ever since Vietnam became a possibility for him.
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Next 342 CommentsTrilby
September 27, 2010 at 8:55AM EST Reply to CommentI have to say before I forget, as a person of Sally's generation, I thought that instrumental "Beetles" music at the end was egregious! When the Beetles were popular there were lots of awful, awful covers of their songs, and that was by far one of the worst I've ever heard. It made me mad then and it still makes me mad. Why on earth would they do that, Weiner et al.? Yuck!!!!
ritz In a way, it was like a little 'secret' in itself. Looking on other blogs, younger viewers were clueless.
September 27, 2010 at 9:04AM ESTIt was a good arrangement, and somewhere in my brain I seem to remember that there was an instrumental version back then... not by the Beatles of course.
I think George's nasal rendition, as much as I love it, might have been too heavy. And the words, a little like shouting.
trilby Yeah, no, sorry. That arrangement was painful!
September 27, 2010 at 9:07AM ESTAC The real version would have cost a fortune.
September 27, 2010 at 9:25AM ESTJB To echo AC: the cost for usage rights for the "real" Beatles song would have been too much $$. And remember, the show probably already blew their budget for music rights on the Rolling Stones song from "The Summer Man" episode.
September 27, 2010 at 9:44AM ESTBeatlesFan For such a puritanical fan, you'd think you'd know that the name of the band is "Beatles" not "Beetles". How ironic.
September 27, 2010 at 10:06AM ESTI was wondering when the BeAtles were going to be worked into Mad Men. It would be impossible to have a TV show about society at this period of time and not mention the impact the Beatles had.
ritz By spelling it "Beetles" she was saying, not the real thing. Seedy manufacturers used to try to pass knock-offs by using that spelling. It sometimes fooled parents into buying some goofy thing.
September 27, 2010 at 10:35AM ESTJanice I'd prefer it if they would have spent that budget on the Beatles version. I felt myself making a face when the instrumental cover came on. Did not like it.
September 27, 2010 at 10:42AM ESTLJA At the beginning of the episode in Don's phone call to Sally, he asked her if she could keep a secret. Nice bookend with the song and theme.
September 27, 2010 at 10:58AM ESTDB Cooper The higher cost normally comes with the rights to the "song" (i.e. composition), not the recording itself (the "version"), which can usually be licensed fairly cheaply. IOW, this was a creative decision, not a budget one.
September 27, 2010 at 10:59AM ESTbelinda I didn't think the instrumental version was that bad! And it's understandable they'd have to use a different version than the actual song.
September 27, 2010 at 11:25AM ESTBut I agree. My mom is about Sally's age, and she told us many stories of going through Beatlemania herself, so I'm having fun imagining my mom being Sally and going nuts over those concert tickets. (And, given how much Sally has gone through during this season, kind of nice to see her be a child excited about something again, if only for a moment.)
luban DB Cooper: I don't think that's necessarily true, at least with the Beatles catalog. I can think of several cases where a cover version was used to avoid the exorbitant licensing fees for original Beatles tunes. AllState Insurance had Julian Lennon sing "When I'm 64" in a commercial, for instance. And when PBS re-released the sci-fi movie "The Lathe of Heaven," they had to replace the excerpt of "With a Little Help from My Friends" with a cover version.
September 27, 2010 at 11:35AM ESTAlechemist The Beatles are notorious for refusing rights to their original versions of the songbook...it's why you don't find them on iTunes. They are also not usually inclined to allow this type of use (very "commercial" applications) which is in the hands of Paul McCartney and Yoko Ono at this point.
September 27, 2010 at 1:43PM ESTV Shea Stadium? 50,000 screaming girls?
September 27, 2010 at 2:45PM ESTI think Don's week has just gotten crazier!
The sound of one man laughing @V -- 50,000 girls, and none of them focused on Don. That'll be the biggest blow to him of all the others this season!
September 27, 2010 at 9:04PM ESTGloria I actually liked it fine? I'm one of the younger viewers, I think, at 25. Maybe I'm just not true enough a fan :P
September 28, 2010 at 10:07AM ESTdc I can't speak to the licensing issues, but I thought it was an interesting creative decision. This way, they get to be elliptical and indirect; you have to know the song in order to get the "secrets" reference. Hearing Paul and John belt out that line would have been too on the nose.
September 28, 2010 at 11:24AM ESTAlso, one of the charms of the show is how it revels in things that seem kitschy now, but that would have seemed normal then. It's hilarious to see Pete not even batting an eyelid at that frilly maternity outfit Trudy was wearing. It's the same with this cover version of the Beatles: we get to smirk a bit when we hear that cheesy flute arrangement come in over the melody.
Trilby OK, sorry I misspelled the name. I am not at all a manical Beatles fan but I hated the instrumental cover. Granted, the actual Beatles would be prohibitively expensive but there are a gazillion songs out there to choose from. It just brought home to me how Wiener is recreating an era he didn't personally live through and sometimes he gets stuff wrong.
September 28, 2010 at 3:44PM ESTWhich reminds me-- a few episodes back, when Betty was talking to Sally's shrink, I think, she was wearing a circle pin SO HIGH UP on her dress that it was literally standing up above her shoulder. That was wack.
Yamara Trilby, Weiner is actually getting The Beatles' impact quite right. But it's hard when you can't buy their love for your show.
September 28, 2010 at 10:55PM ESTI’ve long been worried that The Beatles and their estates have been pricing themselves out of the Sixties. There was that video guitar game plug-in last year, and Yoko puts up million-dollar posters in Times Square, but in documentaries, etc. their music just falls silent. And that’s just not how it went down at the time.
But, I’m glad that impression was finally fixed. The Beatles... MADE. BETTY. SMILE.
Yeah, yeah, yeah-- they’re THAT good.
But their music is so rare to find in dramas, people are beginning to forget. Trilby misspelling their name. Oh, and dc@10.24AM? Hearing Paul and John belt out that line would not be on the nose, it would be from another dimension: George sings all the lyrics alone on that one.
And we forget because places like AMC can't afford them. Which is why we all are forced to listen to them for free on YouTube.
CAN'T BUY ME LO-OVE--EV'RYBODY TELLS ME SO--
Jessamyn I see that there is still the complaint (which came up periodically on the old blog) that Weiner is "getting the sixties wrong" when what people really mean is, "That's not the sixties I remember." Fine, if you were there, you have actual memories of how things were in your particular community and social class. But that's all that means. I remember my teenagehood in the eighties very clearly, but all I could tell you is what people my age were wearing and listening to in a particular suburb of the San Francisco Bay Area, not across the entire nation or in other racial or social groups. There was a lot of music that nobody in my school would have been caught dead listening to, but somebody sure was listening to it, because it sold a ton of records and got plenty of airplay.
September 29, 2010 at 12:09PM ESTGoing back to the sixties, keep in mind that some of the Beatles albums themselves had atrocious instrumentals on them. I grew up listening to my parents' records, and my sister and I would leap up and trot across the room to lift the needle on the four (FOUR!) soupy instrumentals on the Hard Day's Night album. That's how universal that sort of thing was.
Linda
September 27, 2010 at 8:58AM EST Reply to CommentI thought Joan didn't want to go to her doctor because he & Greg knew one another. Also, are we positive she got the abortion? I know it would be hard to hide from Roger, but it seemed like she was reconsidering. She has to think that this might be her last chance.
Strong performance for John Slaterly
Kim Linda, that's exactly what I was thinking, especially after the lie to the other mom. I'm not so sure that it's all resolved.
September 27, 2010 at 9:31AM ESTBoudica I agree...I don't think the episode was definitive that she had the abortion.
September 27, 2010 at 9:40AM ESTJB I felt this as well. I thought that Joan would have seemed more sad (than just sullen) on the bus ride home had she gone through with it. It's probably a long shot that she kept the baby, but it does seem up for debate.
September 27, 2010 at 9:46AM ESTWill Woytowich I said the same thing to my wife post show. Back on the bus that night, back to work the next day, looking fine. I don't think she went through with it.
September 27, 2010 at 9:55AM ESTLJA That makes six of us. I'm not convinced she had the procedure, either.
September 27, 2010 at 10:59AM ESTKathryn I thought the same thing last night. Maybe the "averted tragedy" was the abortion and not the pregnancy. As soon as she made up a 15 year old daughter in the waiting room, I think she had second thoughts. Perhaps she realized that this might be her last chance to have a child. The next time we see her, she's headed home. We do not know what happened in between those two scenes. I hope she is still pregnant.
September 27, 2010 at 11:04AM ESTMaggie I thought the same thing too. This might be her last chance. And she never once confirmed that she actually had an abortion, nor did they show her in the doctor's office. "Tragedy averted" could mean a lot of things...
September 27, 2010 at 11:29AM ESTKarenX I can find clues to convince me Joan did and did not have the abortion, and I don't know which one I am rooting for yet. I do think that when she told the mother that her imaginary daughter was 15 years old, that she was thinking of her first abortion (probably fifteen years ago). Thinking of mothers and children, and who wants babies, and who doesn't get to have babies, and all that.
September 27, 2010 at 11:42AM ESTMarvel It was my impression that Joan described an imaginary daughter as a comfort to the distraught mother (and, likely to ease her own unease in relating her own predicament); her choice of "15" being an additional comfort (the other woman having allowed that she herself had had her daughter when she was 15). I don't have an opinion as to whether or not she terminated her pregnancy, but I do know that Joanie's an angel. Pure and simple.
September 27, 2010 at 12:13PM ESTdunhamsc Count me in the group uncertain. I think it's intended for us to be uncertain. Thus, Roger's line, "Life goes on." could have been a clue to the viewers. More than you know, Roger. More than you know.
September 27, 2010 at 1:02PM ESTSterling's Gold I wondered the same thing last night, but I was still on the fence. After reading the following Sepinwall commentary...
September 27, 2010 at 1:25PM EST"Joan tells Roger that a tragedy was averted, Lane says the firm is fiscally stable, and Megan assures Don that everything worked out, but in all cases, we know the truth, and how bad things really are."
... I'm more convinced that she didn't go through with it. We know Lane and Megan are wrong, and for that matter that Roger, Pete, and Don are all being deceptive, so why not Joanie?
Tracy500 I'm with the fans who think Joan did not go through with it. 1. The bus ride home with Joan looking very small and calm in that large oval-ish enclosure. 2. Her comment next day to Roger that "Life goes on".
September 27, 2010 at 1:57PM ESTWhy? The tearful mother asked Joan how old was her daughter could that have reminded Joan of her first "procedure" and how many years ago might that have been? 15?
Federica The fact that she showed up for work the next day looking energetic and glowing might be further proof that she didn't go ahead with it. Also for some reason I thought that when she said her daughter was 15 she probably meant how old her child would've been had she not had an abortion the first time (I seem to recall she's had plenty) - but I'm not sure if this theory adds anything to the episode..
September 27, 2010 at 2:35PM ESTSela Count me in! I definitely think that Joan did not have the abortion. I think the "15 year old daughter" ruse was the signal to us that she realized what she really wanted was to be a mother, Roger & Greg be damned. We all know Joan has been struggling with aging and loneliness this season. This fictitious teenager was symbolic of her acceptance that she is ready to become an adult and face the consequences rather than continue having others impose their rules/agendas onto her as befits the role of ingenue (up to this point). I thought the way that Joan took over control of the meeting after Roger's rant on Pete, while the other exec's. were rendered somewhat speechless was another hint that Joan has taken control - in a new way. Perhaps she is following Peggy's lead and being assertive rather than passive aggressive.
September 27, 2010 at 2:46PM ESTlp I think Joan's made up daughter was in response to the angry she feels at not being the prettiest, youngest one anymore and someone thinking she was old enough to have a daughter who required a procedure or that Joan could be a grandmother made her make up the 15 year old. The mother just told Joan she was 15 when she had her daughter so Joan was being mean as only Joan can be. Once she said "15" the woman picked up a magazine. She knew what she was doing. It wasn't a cover up - it was to be hurtful like she has been hurt.
September 27, 2010 at 3:51PM ESTJaymii I don't really have much else to add, I'm with the chorus. The way Joan was throughout, I was never convinced she was going to go through with it and the bus-ride home only drilled it in further for me. I've been surprised before with Mad Men, but I really think she's still carrying this time.
September 27, 2010 at 6:39PM ESTck_one I very much doubt that line "we averted a tragedy" would have been in the script, if she have had the abortion.
September 28, 2010 at 5:09PM ESTCK
September 27, 2010 at 9:03AM EST Reply to CommentA little too soapy for my taste (unlike the last 3 great episodes). Particularly the unwanted pregnancy but also hinting that Don is yet again about to be "unfaithful." Hopefully they're just setting some wheels in motion.
dtor If she had kept the baby, yes-- it would have been a soapy shark-jumper. But the abortion added to the overall darkness & hopeless tragedy of the episode, imo.
September 27, 2010 at 9:26AM ESTbettyd I agree with dtor. Think 1965 when out of wedlock pregnancy was still a scandel. Roger said she could have made people believe, but her husband is a doctor - I think he would figure it out!
September 27, 2010 at 10:11AM EST
I took the look Don gave Megan at the end of the episode as if he was kind of envious of her innocence after she had said that everything turned out alright.
September 27, 2010 at 1:57PM ESTI am under the impression that if Don and Faye part ways, the breaking up will be done by Faye and not by Don
Emma Don looking at Megan at the end of this episode reminded me of Don looking at Sally's teacher for the first time. Jon Hamm is amazing in this episode, as always.
September 28, 2010 at 5:13PM ESTGus @CK: Amen. By about 15 minutes in to this episode, my jaw was on the floor at how bad it was. Each new subplot they introduced was more hackneyed and lazy than the last. There was the comically implausible security clearance story, where the writers once again reinvent the Don Draper character, this time into a blubbering Alan Alda-style Sensitive Man. There's the cliched accidental pregnancy story (Who knew that in the 60's, women got pregnant every single time they had sex?). And there's the awful interracial romance story, which wasn't all that great the first time they did it in Season 1. There were a couple of redeeming moments, but most of it was pure weekday-afternoon-level television.
September 28, 2010 at 5:18PM ESTI'm looking forward to next week, when we meet Ida Blankenship's evil twin, and Don and Peggy travel to South America in search of a mysterious amulet.
Liam781
September 27, 2010 at 9:05AM EST Reply to CommentVaria:
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Now we behold Man Men's Ivan the Terrible, in the form of Robert Pryce.
Lane's father deepens the development of generational backstories in the MM story line. MM is mostly about the GI to Silent to Boomer generational arc, but with Lane's father we have someone, like the late Miss Blankenship, who is probably of the Lost Generation whose significant generational experience was World War I (all the more so in Mr Pryce's case). As a group, those who survived were noted for their no-nonsense attitude (except when partying).
It's interesting that Lane's father used the stick against Lane's head and temple, rather than striking a shoulder, which would have been just as crippling but with less risk of mortality.
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Are we sure Joan actually went through with the abortion? It's very likely, but not absolutely certain.
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It was nice to have an episode where Betty is not a monster.
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This was one of those handful of Peggy-free episodes; is Ms Moss also subject to the 3-episode-absence budgeting rule for Mad Men?
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Sally's brief appearance was dead-on correct.
kelly I had a strong sense that Joan did not go through with the abortion. I think that this subliminally added to the overall sense of impending doom.
September 27, 2010 at 9:25AM ESTNancy Good to hear, Kelly. I had the same take on this.
September 27, 2010 at 9:47AM ESTritz I was once asked to go with a friend for a (legal) abortion. She could hardly sit up afterwards. She certainly didn't go to work the next day.
September 27, 2010 at 9:52AM ESTBut it could just be movie magic.
Loved Trudy's baby-doll pj's! As far as Pete's concerned, just more of her to love.
simsisms Agreed. Joan is preggers. I think the episode in the doctor's office made her realize this was her last chance, given the other woman considered that she was old enough to have a teenager.
September 27, 2010 at 10:34AM ESTTodNBuz I thought maybe Joan didn't go through with the abortion. That it was what maybe little girls do but is not for her at this point in her life? She feels more adult and willing to take what comes in terms of Greg and scandal and the responsibility of a child?
September 27, 2010 at 11:33AM EST
I think its ambiguous at best, but I felt like it is not unreasonable to think Joan backed out of the abortion.
September 27, 2010 at 3:16PM ESTWheat does it serve for Joan to make up a daughter if she did go through with it? We already know she's uncomfortable with her age (remember the driver's liscense?) and that scene just seemed to suggest she was tired of still going through this at her age when she is finally ready to settle down.
Second, at the board meeting everyone tells a lie, and specifically a lie that cannot last. We've seen throughout the show how inevitable the collapse of the Don/Dick lie is. Lane will have to return with either news that he is divorced or reunited (and possibly back to England), Roger has thirty days to sort out lucky strike. Joan may just be omitting the fact that she had the abortion, but it makes much more sense thematically for this to be another lie to buy time. She doesn't know what is going to happen yet, but the truth will have to come out.
jlp She absolutely went through with the abortion. No question in my mind.
September 27, 2010 at 4:26PM ESTThe sound of one man laughing It's great the way Matt will lead us right up to an important event, but not show the event itself, so we're always Rorschach tested about if it happened (DID Pete rape the au pair, etc.).
September 27, 2010 at 9:20PM ESTRobert Pryce was a great character, because he was a brutal s--t, BUT completely correct. Lane's still married and going gooey over a Playboy bunny? I'd hit him too if he were my son.
Remy It's possible Joan didn't have the abortion because she sees this as the last opportunity to have a child. Everyone at the office will assume it's Greg so on the surface it looks fine. Joan will be worrying about Greg's reaction but perhaps she will be saved because he dies in Vietnam before he finds out she is pregnant or puts together the timing issues. So she will be fretting over nothing it turns out.
September 28, 2010 at 2:45AM ESTr It was sad to note that Peggy wasn't in this episode as Elisabeth Moss is filing for divorce this week.
September 28, 2010 at 3:14AM ESTStan
September 27, 2010 at 9:06AM EST Reply to CommentIf you go back to the pilot Matt Weiner uses the F-bomb in a similar fashion to how Gilligan would later use it on Breaking Bad. Pete mumbls "F you" under his breath as Don is leaving. This seemed much more jarring since Roger was screaming it.
JeffK I didn't have any trouble filling in the blank in my head. If he yelled "So f-ing stupid!" or whatever, it would have been far more jarring.
September 27, 2010 at 2:03PM ESTGloria I found it much more jarring to have a blank spot, like the sound or my ear had stopped working. If he had just screamed it, I think I wouldn't have noticed so much, since all my attention was focused on how much I was cringing for poor Pete ... and who thought we'd ever think that!
September 28, 2010 at 10:10AM ESTdc On the DVD commentary, either Weiner or Kartheiser notes that Pete was able to say "f--" just softly enough that they didn't have to bleep it out.
September 28, 2010 at 11:36AM ESTritz
September 27, 2010 at 9:07AM EST Reply to CommentOf course, who knows for sure, but my second thought about the look to Meghan was that he was going to have her take Sally to Shea as a kind of reward. I don't know, maybe I'm just hoping...
Stan I thought the same thing at first. Because Meghan connected with Sally in the office, and Don would feel a little guilty about unloading on Meghan when she would have had no clue about why this was such a big deal.
September 27, 2010 at 9:26AM ESTMike I think Don ditches Sally and takes Meghan, thus trumping any other detestable acts he has done this year.
September 27, 2010 at 1:44PM ESTAlex
September 27, 2010 at 9:07AM EST Reply to CommentA very gloomy episode all around, but great work by Hamm. And by Kartheiser as well, in the instant that he switches from "oh, did that go through already?" to "oh, shit, your secret identity could be discovered."
I'm still a little fuzzy on why exactly the G-men scared Don so much. Aside from the fact that he's a deserter, is there something else there that I'm missing?
ritz "The maximum US penalty for desertion in wartime remains death" (Wikipedia)
September 27, 2010 at 9:42AM ESTBut I'm not sure how it was all resolved. Who did Pete talk to, what did he say, and how was it just "over"? I'll watch again, but I didn't get it the first time around.
Desertion during wartime carries a potential death penalty. (On the battlefield it's grounds for summary execution.)
September 27, 2010 at 9:42AM ESTsepinwall Pete has a friend in the DoD who helped him with the Dick Whitman riddle back in season one. The friend confirms that at this point in the background check, no flags have come up on Don's file. So by terminating the account, the DoD has no need to keep investigating Don, and all is well.
September 27, 2010 at 9:45AM ESTdtor I thought Pete said Don *was* flagged. But by backing out, all investigations would cease.
September 27, 2010 at 10:09AM ESTDB Cooper Question about desertion: Did "Don Draper" get a medical discharge due to Dick Whitman's wounds, or was his enlistment up anyway?
September 27, 2010 at 11:01AM ESTDB Cooper dtor: I was confused by that line reading, too. Closed Captioning said "wasN'T."
September 27, 2010 at 11:02AM ESTCaptain T Did Don/Dick really desert? regardless of who the government thoguht he was, wasn't he sent home because of injuries sustained in the explosion that killed the real Don Draper? I'm sure the government frowns upon identity theft and there is a substantial penalty, but it doesn't really seem that it should be classified as desertion.
September 27, 2010 at 12:23PM ESTrowan729 Pete's line didn't include the words was or wasn't, it was have or haven't, and I'm still not sure on which one it was. Last night I thought he said "I checked with my friend, and you have been flagged. If we drop NAA now, the investigation stops." If he hadn't been flagged as a sec risk, why would Pete mention the investigation stopping now by dropping the client? That's my big clue that Don WAS flagged. I rewound it several times to listen, and I'm pretty sure it was you have been flagged.
September 27, 2010 at 12:58PM ESTAnd yes, desertion or AWOL during wartime is a serious offense and would sully Don's reputation in his business and with his family, along with the myriad criminal offenses he's guilty of, statute of limitations or not, once accused the stain never leaves you.
guest Agree with dtor
September 27, 2010 at 1:11PM ESTBrandon Count me among the confused. Can anyone explain specifically what happened re: Korea that would destroy Don now? My memory's foggy, but I know he switched identities with the Lt. and that he escorted the real Draper's coffin home (to his own home, that is), but was he supposed to return after that? I thought he was let go, which would not constitute desertion. Thanks in advance for your help!
September 27, 2010 at 1:34PM ESTBrandon Nevermind! The answer is below, but for those reading in order, it's that Jon Hamm's character switched places with a guy who was almost done with his service, while he was just beginning. So Hamm wouldn't have been released so soon without that identity theft, thus desertion.
September 27, 2010 at 1:43PM ESTLee926
September 27, 2010 at 9:12AM EST Reply to CommentJon Hamm is simply amazing - that panic attack - for anyone who has experienced them - was so on the money - I could feel my own heart rate speed up. I agree that this is up there with the Suitcase episode in terms of his performance. Jaw dropping.
For an episode that started out with such a joyous scene with Sally - boy, it sure hit you full in the face with the consequences of lies and secrets and frightening potential consequences. I had to pause the show a few times just to catch my breath I was so tense watching it.
Oh, Layne, I so hope he will return...Jared Harris adds such a unique perspective and character to the show.
The set up for the last three episodes is wide open with so many issues - I'm hoping the loss of Lucky Strike might actually ignite some action on the part of Roger to get back in the game.
Joan is so outwardly stoic but you can see the emotion behind her eyes in each scene. Heartbreaking.
And, Don will have to live with his deception for the rest of his life as it can, obviously, rear its head at the least likely of times.
The scene with Layne and his new love was also heartbreaking - in Europe and England, there was never the level of racism (though it does exist) or controversy about mixed race relationships as existed in the U.S. so it wasn't all that surprising to me that he would so openly introduce her to his father - maybe an act of rebellion or a stab at showing his father he is his own man - only to be literally be beaten down and succumb to the old British way of behavior. Gad - that was a painful scene.
The patronizing attitude of the doctor is spot on given the times
Magenta Frankly, I think the doctor was 100% correct. He was telling the truth. Roger may have romantic feelings for Joan, but he most certainly is being selfish and not thinking of the repurcussions of his actions on her life. Of course she's responsible for herself, but he is behaving like a spoiled rich boy who just wants what he wants when he wants it.
September 27, 2010 at 10:06AM ESTfanshawe The setup really is interesting, with Lane off to England for "two weeks, maybe a month" at the worst possible time. I wonder who will be the one to save the day in this round.
September 27, 2010 at 12:24PM ESTGamesix Had to comment, but this is pretty off the mark: "in Europe and England, there was never the level of racism (though it does exist) or controversy about mixed race relationships as existed in the U.S."
September 27, 2010 at 4:32PM ESTGoogle "say no to racism" and let me know what you find, Lee!
plinthy the middling Don has been practicing serious deception for at least 15 years. One would expect the U.S. intelligence community of those days to recognize value in that. I have a feeling the client problem is going to work out fine, but Pete is going to think himself responsible for that, when it will have been Don.
September 27, 2010 at 9:34PM ESTdc It's fair to say that Christina Hendricks is as good an actor as anyone on that show. Her character believes, above all else, that it is unseemly to betray your inner emotions, that a stoic mask has to cover over anything going on inside -- particularly in a professional setting (or at all times with Roger, who can't take a hint).
September 28, 2010 at 11:46AM ESTSo to play this roll, Hendricks has to maintain the mask while letting subtle hints of the emotions to play over her face. The office scenes with Roger the last couple of episodes have been just incredible. It's like that scene during the lawnmower episode last season where she parts ways with Don in the hospital waiting room; she and Hamm are such good actors that no dialogue is necessary.
John I second Gamesix. Typical American ignorance that assumes things are worse here than elsewhere in the world. Racism is still a major, major problem in places like, for example, Italy, where black soccer players are routinely belittled and called names like "monkey". A major star had to leave Inter Milan because of such abuse. Can you imagine that happening today in America, with a football player? Doubt it.
September 28, 2010 at 2:29PM ESTmadfan
September 27, 2010 at 9:12AM EST Reply to CommentI don't think Joan went through with the abortion. She looked too well on the bus ride back to the city, and too well the next day. You could see how ambivalent she was in the waiting room, thinking about her previous abortions—perhaps one of them would really have been the 15-year-old she pretended to have. I think the avoided "tragedy" she referred to the next day with Roger was the possibility of giving up what might be her last chance at motherhood.
srpad I thought I was crazy after reading the review but I also thought it was ambiguous as to whether or not Joan went through with it.
September 27, 2010 at 10:10AM ESTTheNick
September 27, 2010 at 9:15AM EST Reply to CommentThis episode pretty much dropped a nuclear bomb on the entire season. I haven't felt that breathless watching TV since "The Gypsy and the Hobo," wondering if Suzanne was going to walk in on Betty confronting Don...The news just flew fast and furious, and I did realize some of the points seemed a bit too soapy (ironically, the thing that felt most like a soap opera was Lane meeting the business end of his father's cane).
Also, speaking of Lane, has he become the new Paul? I was genuinely surprised by this storyline, since Lane is in many ways more of a progressive American than the actual Americans on this show. Is Lane the new Paul Kinsey, and could he end up being the prism through which we view the cultural shift?
Joan getting pregnant was a little too on-point....but they added some intrigue about whether or not she actually got it (personally I think she did).
I wonder if that Beatles concert is enough for Don to buy Sally's love....
Also, Alan, I'm glad you mentioned the irony of Lee Garner Jr.'s speech - one member of the Lucky Sperm Club calling out another for "inheriting" the account.
The Don Draper Myth could be crashing down at the same time as SCDP if the partners can't pull out a miracle, because, really, does anyone doubt Pete wouldn't sell Don out once he didn't need Don for the agency?
I'm also intrigued by how they used that last shot of Megan, who is utterly gorgeous and also (I think others have said this) reminds me a lot of Jane. Was Don noticing her romantically? I don't know...I saw it as Don gazing upon this pretty, young girl ,who is utterly clueless about what she could've unleashed through those "routine" clearance papers. Don and Faye have a great relationship, and they've already gone to the secretary well with Allison...I hope there isn't a Don/Megan fling now.
If nothing else, they're making sure the rest of the season unmissable....I needed 2 hours to come down after the episode ended. Wow.
klg19 I don't think Lane is the new Paul. Paul always seemed to use his black girlfriend as a badge of progressivism; I never got a real sense he cared about her as a person. Whereas Lane is positively giddy over Toni. It's very sweet.
September 27, 2010 at 10:09AM ESTI agree that Don's gaze at the carefree Megan getting ready to leave for the evening was more about what she'd inadvertently set in motion than about lust.
Steve "I wonder if that Beatles concert is enough for Don to buy Sally's love...."
September 27, 2010 at 10:24AM ESTPun/reference intended?
I also thought that Joan had an "I'm too old for this s***" moment in the waiting room and decided not to go through with it. As others have pointed out, nothing after that was at all decisive.
sepinwall Heh. So Joan pulled a Roger Murtaugh?
September 27, 2010 at 10:30AM ESTYou all are right that it's ambiguous. But like the Lee Garner news, a pregnancy isn't something Joan is going to be able to hide from Roger forever, which raises the question of why she wouldn't tell him. He was, after all, just fine with the idea of her carrying the pregnancy through and claiming the baby was Greg's.
Steve "So Joan pulled a Roger Murtaugh?"
September 27, 2010 at 10:35AM ESTYes! I thought you've used that reference in reviews before, but couldn't remember and wasn't sure if I could get away with just saying "had a Roger Murtaugh moment".
Craig Esherick's Mustache Also, what happens if Greg manages to finagle some time between end of basic and deployment and sees Joan showing?
September 27, 2010 at 10:36AM ESTberkowit28 I agree about Megan. It's the *camera* that lingers on Megan. The look in Don's eyes is fear and weariness. He's had the hell of a day, and is not thinking about having yet another office affair.
September 27, 2010 at 11:27AM ESTdtor
September 27, 2010 at 9:23AM EST Reply to CommentI really thought Don was going to man up for a minute there and face the music. But that would have been unrealistic (and certainly less dramatic) than what we got. How amazing is it that three years later, this show actually had me sympathizing with Pete over Don? Quite an accomplishment. That partner's meeting was rough.
Too bad they couldn't use the actual Beatles song at the end instead of the muzak. My admiration for Weiner is such that I could believe he had that song/ scene in mind when he originally conceived of Don's whole double identity however many years ago.
Debbie Don is in full panic Dick Whitman mode for most of the episode. Then as soon as he knows he is in the clear...paid for by Pete Campbell and SCDP, Don Draper returns, staring lustfully at Megan. Hamm is fantastic as this sociopathic antihero.
September 27, 2010 at 12:50PM ESTevs Debbie, spot on!!!!!
September 27, 2010 at 7:24PM ESTMary Jo "Hamm is fantastic as this sociopathic antihero"
September 28, 2010 at 11:37PM ESTI felt the same way about Tony Soprano (yes I know Weiner's connections to that too).
September 27, 2010 at 9:25AM EST Reply to CommentRandom thoughts:
- The last place we saw Sal was in a payphone lying to his wife on so many levels. The show's timeline is 2 years later. More than likely, Sal has hit rock bottom and his life is in ruins. I would not expect him to return just because Lee is going to be out of the picture. Mad Men is not that simple.
- I am not convinced Joan had the abortion. We never see her leave the waiting room. And I think her claiming that she has a 15 year old was a stab at the other mother, who herself admits that she was 15 when she had her daughter. I feel that Joan did not like the lady dumping all this guilt on Joan, who is carrying tremendous guilt herself.
- The closing scene where he is leering at Marcie. I think that was more of an indicator that Don is, and always will be, a wolf in sheep's clothing. But I don't expect anything to spark between those 2. Don has already avoided one bomb with Allison. And remember what he said about his last secretary? Joan got him exactly what he needed, someone who wouldn’t be a distraction. Don is back…
- It felt to me that Betty appealed to her sense of decency by protecting Don. This would not be the way to take him down, because even she knows of how devastating it would be for all around him. The ending of the episode where Don is holding baby Gene on his birthday and Betty looks on has proved to be more enigmatic.
- The scene with Lee and Roger is a precursor to the season’s climax. Alan, you hit it on the head with Roger’s line, “The lies I have told for you.!†goes far deeper than Lee’s sexual tendencies, much deeper. But as we saw in a previous episode, the noose is starting to tighten on big tobacco and their freedoms. The times are a changin’ for everyone.
Steve I disagree with the Sal part, I believe Duck referenced him at his new job during the suitcase episode.
September 27, 2010 at 9:51AM ESTsepinwall Steve, Duck was referring to the gay Belle Jolie executive who once tried to seduce Sal, not Sal himself.
September 27, 2010 at 9:52AM ESTNancy I agree with you, Peter, about Betty's rationale for covering with the DoD for Don. I believe Betty also wants to protect her children. If Don's true identity were exposed, wouldn't they the kids suddenly become Sally, Bobby and Gene Whitman, complete with all the negative implications?
September 27, 2010 at 10:04AM ESTDan @Peter Monaghan, very astute to connect Roger's line about "lies" not just to Lee's private sex life, but the whole advertising-tobacco industry deception campaign. A brilliant public-private parallel by the writers so thanks for pointing it out.
September 27, 2010 at 10:33AM ESTOn the Fire Escape in Baltimore
September 27, 2010 at 9:35AM EST Reply to CommentI also have doubts that Joan went through with the procedure. If it was so hard for her to conceive with Dr. Evil, then this might be her only chance.
What's with Harry leaving for LA at the drop of a hat? He didn't even have a good answer for Don when called on it.
During the whole episode I kept waiting for Harry to bumble on coming through with the Beatles tickets and during each commercial break I kept mumbling, "Poor Sally. Poor, poor Sally." The tix showing up on the desk was a pleasant surprise. Thank you, Matt, for sending a little joy in Sally's life.
sepinwall "What's with Harry leaving for LA at the drop of a hat?"
September 27, 2010 at 9:41AM ESTHe just likes going out there and schmoozing famous and powerful people, and will clearly use any excuse to take the trip.
mortimer Harry has become little more than a set piece: Name-dropper, talentless, gauche. It's getting a little tiresome, and the way the writers use his character at least to me recalls David Chase's Emmy-winning TV-writer character in the Sopranos - less a fully-drawn figure than a symbol of the shallowness of network TV. He's not a major player in the story, so it's not that big of a deal, but surrounded by so many brilliant and deeply drawn characters, he's a stick figure.
September 27, 2010 at 10:36AM ESTgladly I'm hoping that Harry's weird entertainment-world fascination is more than just a cartoon, and the writers are building something with the constant references to it. It's been so clearly present the whole season, I hope there's a payoff to it. Otherwise, why flatten Harry so much and make him such a buffoon?
September 27, 2010 at 11:11AM ESTKathryn I too spent the episode convinced that Harry wouldn't come through and poor Sally would miss the Beatles. I was so relieved to see those tickets!
September 27, 2010 at 11:13AM ESTMaggie Ditto on the Beatles tickets. I was afraid Don would let her down again. Also, I'm such a big Beatles fan that when Don told Sally he had tickets, I think I squealed as loud as she did!
September 27, 2010 at 11:40AM ESTdtor
September 27, 2010 at 9:39AM EST Reply to CommentJoan had the abortion. For two big reasons. First, she made it clear to us that it would be too obvious that she had to have gotten pregnant by someone other than her husband, and Joan would never subject herself to that scandal. (A point hammered home in the waiting room, when she couldn't even admit to a stranger that she was the one getting the abortion. Joan places the highest priority on how the world perceives her.) And second, I think/hope this show is better than a cheap soap opera and would avoid such a plotline. (Don's double identity may seem soapy to some, but in reality it serves to illustrate Weiner's existential questions and themes. The only real soap-sin the show is guilty of is Peggy's pregnancy.)
Btw Alan, where was it made clear that Cooper knows about Joan & Roger's affair? I think I missed that or otherwise forgot about it.
sepinwall Cooper let Joan know that he knew after Roger's heart attack in season one.
September 27, 2010 at 9:40AM ESTBuchholz Surfer What's the timeline on Joan's pregnancy? She said that Greg had been gone for 7 weeks, but also that she was already very late after hooking up with Roger. It had to be at least a month after she slept with Roger at that point, correct? So the Roger hookup happened maybe three or four weeks after she last slept with Greg?
September 27, 2010 at 11:07AM ESTShe could fake a month difference, with her husband away-- just tell Greg the due date is a month later than the doctor tells her, and then after she has the baby, tell Greg that the baby unexpectedly came early.
The point is that if there's less than a month between her sleeping with Greg and Roger, then she could try to fool Greg that the baby is his, and go ahead with it. I think she might be trying that. The scene in the waiting room showed Joan that this is realistically her last chance to have a baby. She's already the same age as the mother of the other patient, old enough to have a daughter who could have an abortion herself. She's had trouble conceiving, and with her husband gone for years to come, this is basically it.
She did tell Roger that "life goes on."
Three Whiskey Sours I think you mean tell Greg the baby is due earlier than it is (i.e. that it was conceived a month before it actually was) and then claim it was born a few weeks late. But yes, it would be plausible (assuming the baby didn't *actually* come late). I still think Joan had the abortion, though.
September 27, 2010 at 2:05PM ESTamg Depending on how soon Joan would use the term "very" late...since she was obviously ovulating when they conceived the baby, she would be "late" once 14 days had passed from that night. So if "very late" means only one week late, it could be only 3 weeks ago that this happened--and thus a full 4 weeks since Greg left for basic. I agree that it would be incredibly difficult for a woman her age who wants to have children to go through with that--especially if she has been struggling to conceive. Yet its also true that she would never sully her reputation so. I don't actually believe this will happen, but Joan could always pick up and start a new life with her own invented widowed identity!
September 27, 2010 at 4:18PM ESTKristen I could be misreading, but you seem to associate any pregnancy outside of marriage storyline with the "soapy" classification you (and others) are throwing around. I'm not really understanding why that is. You do know that this is something that happens in real life, kind of all the time?
September 28, 2010 at 3:36PM ESTgail
September 27, 2010 at 9:41AM EST Reply to CommentI almost cringed when they started with Joan's pregnancy -- an "oh, no, no soap opera, please" - but I was also watching with someone who did not realize that abortions were illegal in those days.
About Dr. Faye -- and Don's apparently opening up to her -- could her growing up with "mafia connections" have anything to do with her almost nonchalant, "we can get this fixed" reaction to Don's confession?
Loved Sally's reaction to the Shea Stadium concert. I wonder if Betty let her stay up late to watch The Beatles on Ed Sullivan (my mother let me!)
Thanks again Alan!
PleinJane In a recent AMC interview with Cara Buono, she says that the character of Faye is Jewish. Does this change the speculation of "Mafia connections," or am I being naive about what that might mean?
September 27, 2010 at 10:01AM ESTsepinwall Faye's father isn't himself in the mob. He owns a store that the mob uses in some capacity.
September 27, 2010 at 10:08AM ESTAnd I don't think Faye's suggestion about fixing it to Don had anything to do with the mob; just her belief that they're smart professional adults who should be able to figure something out.
Her father owned a candy store - that means he was probably a bookie and/or a numbers runner. Italian Mafia would certainly have had no problem working with a Jewish shopkeeper in that capacity - but the relationship also wouldn't have gone any farther.
September 27, 2010 at 10:38AM ESThalli @PleinJane I don't know, you should ask Meyer Lansky or Bugsy Siegel if there were any Jews in the Mob. Seriously, Jews were an important part of the Mafia.
September 27, 2010 at 11:05AM ESTrowan729 The Jewish Mafia and candy stores as fronts go hand in hand. Look up the names halli mentions above and Murder, Inc.-Weiner's mention of her dad owning a candy store is a clear reference to those facts. Just fyi.
September 27, 2010 at 1:11PM ESTbucksure ... or Arnold Rothstein (reference Boardwalk Empire)
September 27, 2010 at 3:39PM ESTAnnaN
September 27, 2010 at 9:41AM EST Reply to CommentI too thought that the certainty of Joan having an abortion was in doubt. I could honestly hear her thinking that if Greg didn't come back from the war, then what would she have in her life? Roger is not an option, not even Greg as an adult companion is a real option. She can have a true and solid relationship with a child of her own.
I hope someone can answer this for me - but how is what Don/Dick did in Vietnam dissertion? He was discharged with his wounds as Don - wouldn't the same have applied to Dick? He may have assumed a new identity, but I really don't see where he committed any actual fraud for gain - he didn't assume Don's identity and then raid the dead man's saving account or sell his house. Even with today's awareness of identity theft Don would be safe as anyone can pretend they are me and as long as I am not harmed in any way by the person acting as me - there is really nothing that can be done to me.
AnnaN Oh man that last sentence was a grammatical mess. Apologies.
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September 27, 2010 at 9:51AM ESTDon is a wartime deserter. Wartime desertion is still on record as punishable by death, although the death penalty hasn't been used since the execution of Pvt. Eddie Slovik in 1945. If Don is found out he could go to prison.
JB Don served in Korea. Vietnam is happening in present-day Mad Men time, and that's where Greg is.
September 27, 2010 at 9:55AM ESTPA That's always a bit of a puzzle to me too (it might have been addressed), but I assume that the real Don Draper's days were up, while Dick Whitman was only at the start of his tour in Korea. He specifically stated that part of why he did it was to get out of there.
September 27, 2010 at 10:03AM ESTI'm not sure if identity theft would only be punishable if the person robbed would be left unharmed. Also, there's no one left to vouch for Don. Who says he didn't kill the original Don Draper? Who says Anna Draper was fine with it? No matter how you look at it, he would be in a heap of trouble.
Medrawt Don's a deserter because he was just starting his tour of duty, and switched places with a guy who was close to ending his military career; had he been IDed as Dick Whitman, they would've let him heal up and then sent him back out to finish up his term, whereas they forgave Don Draper the last few weeks/months since his service was close to ending anyway. Whitman thereby skipped out on most of whatever the standard length of a tour in Korea was, and also presumably skipped out on the bulk of his enlistment.
September 27, 2010 at 10:05AM ESTAnnaN Thanks so much for the responses/explanations - for some reason I had the impression that Dick had been in Korea for a while.
September 27, 2010 at 11:39AM ESTMegan Rose Clarification about Korea. The U.S. involvement in Korea was NOT considered a war but rather a "police action."
September 27, 2010 at 2:11PM ESTWanda
September 27, 2010 at 9:41AM EST Reply to CommentI'm in the camp that says Joanie may not have gone through with it. How she'll manuever from here on (if it's true)will be facinating to watch. Also,I haven't felt sympathy for Betty in ages,but last night I did.
As for a possible Don and Megan hookup,please,no. He's been there done that with Allison,please let him learn from his mistakes for once.
Regarding Lane and Papa Pryce: that was shocking. I was fully perpared for Lane to get a dressing down,even have to hear a few unkind racist remarks about his new love,but the cane beat-down? Wow.Also,on the subject of interracial romance,as used on Mad Men:I hope at some point we see a fully realized,African-American character on the show (not in a servant capacity),which isn't being used as somebody else's statement. Not that I think Lane wasn't sincere,actually I think he was sincere in his feelings for Toni,just not able to stand up to his father.
MadFan In one of the early Bond movies (mid-60s) 007-James slaps a woman hard for little reason. Didn't shock me then, but did when I saw it again 40 years later. As BD opined "times are a-changing."
September 27, 2010 at 11:23AM ESTThe sound of one man laughing Stand up to his father how, by chasing Playboy bunnies while still married?
September 27, 2010 at 9:32PM ESTJordo
September 27, 2010 at 9:44AM EST Reply to CommentExcellent recap! But, Lane wasn't the only one on his hands and knees (as you comment), Don was also on his hands and knees, in front of the toilet, when he vomited during his panic attack.
Fiona
September 27, 2010 at 9:46AM EST Reply to CommentHave to comment on that gem of a scene where Roger is making small talk on the phone with "Louise", pleasantries on the pathway to speak with potential client "Larry" (a nod to the Tates, perhaps?). Slattery is brilliant as he carries on a conversation conveying his shock and sympathy that belies his actions--tearing up Larry's Rolodex card, flipping through the remaining cards to find his next contact, etc. You could almost smell his desperation. Another brilliant performance.
dtor Ahhaha, you're right-- I missed it myself, but Larry & Louise has to be a "Bewitched" shout out. Kudos.
September 27, 2010 at 10:01AM ESTswordfish Nice catch! Slattery's coughing "You're killing me!" to the smoking-empire (now)bossman Lee was pretty good too.
September 27, 2010 at 10:42AM ESTKathryn Great catch Fiona! I missed that. No matter how closely I watch, I learn so much by reading this board.
September 27, 2010 at 11:18AM ESTdtor
September 27, 2010 at 9:50AM EST Reply to CommentBtw, cheers for the one tragedy that *didn't* happen last night: Don *did* take Sally to that Beatles concert. I was afraid he'd end up reneging on this and drive one more nail into the coffin of their relationship. (Honestly, when the episode kicked off with that phone call to Sally, I thought they were clearly setting us up for disappointment by episode's end. After last week, it was good to see Don come through on this for his daughter.)
ritz I loved the way Don said to Harry, "I'm not worried at all..." you'd better not screw this up!
September 27, 2010 at 9:57AM ESTPA I think that tension was very much deliberate. It allowed us to see the same tension in Don - signifying the fact that allthough he left Sally out in the cold last episode, he's desperately trying to do something to make it up to her. The tragedy is that he doesn't seem to see that there are better ways to help her than this, and that they are within his power, even if he thinks they aren't.
September 27, 2010 at 9:58AM ESTJB Agreed. I was really afraid they were setting up Sally for another disappointment, but as Megan said "see, everything turned out ok!" I thought that line was telling, along with Don seemingly "seeing" her for the first time in last night's episode.
September 27, 2010 at 9:59AM ESTcoxlaw
September 27, 2010 at 9:50AM EST Reply to CommentI thought that Roger's comment to Lee Jr. about lying for him had more to do with lying about cigarettes. We now know that the Cig Industry had been covering up medical data for years. The ad men pushing cigarettes would have known about all that. Perhaps that's too political an interpretation?
I also thought that Roger was going to have a heart attack throughout the episode and am wondering if that's how they'll end this season-with us wondering if Roger makes it or not.
With several episodes left to go, it seems to me that Weiner will have to come up with a fix for the Agency and that the Agency's fate won't be the season's cliffhanger.
Sally's reaction to the Beatle's tickets was spot on. I was only a little older than Sally at the time and the reaction to the Beatles was truly hysterical.
I found Betty's change of heart toward Don not at all convincing. I just don't think January Jones has the acting chops that the rest of the cast has. Sorry to all the Betty fans. But I just don't see the subtle clues in her face, actions, etc., that allow me to find the mood changes believable.
One thing was, I believe, not too realistic. The relative ease with which Roger arranged the abortion. My recollection is that most people had to go to Europe to get abortions. Abortions would not become legal in the U.S. until 1972 and Roe v. Wade.
The muzak version of Do You Want to Know a Secret was perfect. Nothing else in the episode was authentic, so why should the song be? Also, the muzak version had me singing aloud the words and laughing at appropriateness of the choice.
I gasped out loud when Layne's father hit him. And then, even worse, stepped on his hand. Overtly cruel in a way that harkened back to Dick Whitman's childhood. With respect to Layne and the young woman (bunny) he's in love with, to the younger viewers, know that inter-racial marriage was illegal in the U.S. until 1967 when the Supreme Court struck down Virginia's ban. 1967. Can you believe it??? (see Loving v. Virginia).
Sorry-I can't help but see so much of this show through the politics of the time.
Lee926 Women were having illegal abortions in this country forever - I know a few women who had them back in the 60s, very scary stuff, being wide awake with absolutely nothing to dull the pain, dirty rooms, inexperienced people providing the service. Few women were in a financial position to go to Europe for the procedure. Roger is someone with vast resources and could find someone with relative ease. It wasn't all that hard to find someone but for someone like Roger it would take a lot less searching.
September 27, 2010 at 10:01AM ESTI think Joan said she had a 15 year old daughter so the other woman wouldn't feel as though she was the only mother in the world going through it with her daughter.
dtor Illegal abortions were difficult/near impossible for the poor and working class. But Roger Sterling is a very wealthy man. Arranging the abortion would present almost no problem to him.
September 27, 2010 at 10:06AM EST
Two corrections:
September 27, 2010 at 10:08AM ESTAbortions were readily available in 1965 in place like NYC, you just had to have the right connections (and the money). Legality was never a deterrent to the desperate.
Loving v. Virginia prohibited STATES from banning interracial marriage--it was never against federal law. And by 1965 most states outside of the South (including New York) certainly allowed interracial marriages. Sammy Davis Jr. married May Britt in 1960, for example.
klg19 @coxlaw: The push to legalize abortion in this country wasn't to keep women from having to go to Europe; it was to keep women from dying in botched, illegal, back-alley abortions. There has been a long tradition of women getting access to abortions illegally in the US; the wealthy, who could afford real doctors, survived; many of the poorer women didn't. Legality or illegality doesn't stop the process; it merely guarantees the safety of the procedure.
September 27, 2010 at 10:16AM ESTPA To add to what Lee said, abortions were being performed, and more readily available for the well-heeled. By today's standards, Joan's abortion would've cost close to 3000 dollars.
September 27, 2010 at 10:17AM ESTBy the way, abortion wasn't legal in most of Europe either.
Can't sleep on Sunday nights I think that Rodger is about to find out he has lung cancer...he was coughing a great deal during the big kiss off with Lee. Wouldn't that be ironic? And abortions were more readily available than you may think-and probably less scandalous than an out of wedlock pregnancy.
September 27, 2010 at 10:31AM ESTMaggie "The muzak version of Do You Want to Know a Secret was perfect. Nothing else in the episode was authentic, so why should the song be? Also, the muzak version had me singing aloud the words and laughing at appropriateness of the choice."
September 27, 2010 at 11:47AM ESTI agreed with this! The fact that the song playing was "Do you want to know a secret" was almost a secret unless you knew the song. Having the original version (or one that with sung lyrics) gives the joke away.
Saffy Prior to Roe v. Wade, abortion was legal on request in New York, Washington state, Alaska, and Hawaii, per Wikipedia.
September 27, 2010 at 12:23PM ESTDan In New York, abortion became legal in 1970. I think Roger said the doctor was in Morristown, which is in New Jersey, and abortion was not legal there until Roe v Wade in 1973. As for Europe, it's a varied history-- for example, Britain liberalized its law in 1967, France 1975, and it's still illegal in Ireland today.
September 27, 2010 at 1:19PM ESTThree Whiskey Sours The date of legalization isn't really important to this story -- marijuana was (and is) also illegal, but we've seen people on Mad Men smoke it on multiple occasions.
September 27, 2010 at 4:08PM ESTDoctor-performed abortions in sterile conditions were absolutely available in the 1960s, despite being illegal. Women who died or were badly hurt by unsanitary back-alley abortions or (more commonly) attempts at self-abortion were generally poor and/or women of colour.
I think the Mad Men story is quite believable -- Joan's first abortion was with a midwife, then (probably once she had more money and connections) she was able to get medical doctors to do her second and third.
Angela @Coxlaw, I live in a southern city of approx., 100,000 people. In the mid 60's there were still shanty towns in the heart of the city.
September 27, 2010 at 4:08PM ESTWhen I first read about that in a history book, it blew my mind. I always thought those times were so much longer ago. No wonder there is still so much hostility in the south.
Adam
September 27, 2010 at 9:52AM EST Reply to CommentReferring to the "promising possibility of a Sal return in season five" misrepresents how he was written out of the show. Yes, Lee Garner, Jr., demanded that Sal be fired, but Don was the one who fired him with a cruel "you people..." Don was just as much of a monster as Lee, and you could see it on Sal's face. There's simply no coming back from that.
sepinwall Depends on how dire Sal's straits are two years later. He might need the work more than he needs his dignity.
September 27, 2010 at 9:57AM ESTMostly, I'd just like to see Bryan Batt again, even if it's just for an episode. Assuming his life hasn't completely fallen apart (which may be a big assumption given where we last saw him), it wouldn't be implausible for his path to cross SCDP's again, ala Smitty now working for Teddy or the SCDP rogues gallery popping up at the Clios.
The sound of one man laughing I'm not interested in Sal, but I'd love to see Kitty again!
September 27, 2010 at 9:37PM ESTDon's attitude comes from his knowledge of Sal. He did NOT know that Sal was just finding out he was gay, and if he's willing to do bellhops, why the hell couldn't he have done Lee, instead of jeopardizing Sterling Cooper's existence?
A
September 27, 2010 at 9:53AM EST Reply to CommentI don't think Joan "invents" a fifteen year old daughter; I think she gives the age of the child she would have had from her first abortion (we know she's had three).
It seems unclear as to whether or not Joan got the abortion, but I suppose the scene with Roger, where they are both so emotional - except he over Lucky Strike - is admission that she did.
Kirsten I had the same thought about Joan's fifteen year old "daughter." Most of the women I know who have had to have abortions know exactly how old their children would have been. Very sad.
September 27, 2010 at 10:22AM ESTMaggie I had the same thought too about her "daughter".
September 27, 2010 at 11:48AM ESTSteve
September 27, 2010 at 9:55AM EST Reply to CommentIs it just me or does Mad Men do a really good job with the fake vomit noises? Between this episode and the suitcase I think Hamm added a new move to his acting arsenal with him pretending to vomit.
Cynicgrrl
September 27, 2010 at 10:12AM EST Reply to CommentI can't help but wonder if 15 is the age Joan's first child would have been had she not had previous abortions. Great work from Christina Hendricks in this episode.
TodNBuz
September 27, 2010 at 10:17AM EST Reply to CommentLoved the Bewitched reference!
Grandpa Gene
September 27, 2010 at 10:20AM EST Reply to CommentDuring Betty's trip to her doctor at the end of Season 2 to discuss an abortion, he admonishes her that that is an option reserved for girls with no other choice. Joan's discussion with the 17-year old girl's mother in the waiting room underscored this point - and seemed to have awakened Joan's maternal desire, made her realize that she is no longer a kid, or, at very least, shamed her into reconsidering. After driving home Joan's desire to get pregnant earlier this year, I find it hard to believe that this story line - or any of the story lines in this episode - have resolved themselves so quickly and neatly. (It is not the Mad Men way!)
The attention to detail in this show always astounds me. In the last scene, when Don is looking down at his desk blotter at the Beatles tickets, there is July 20, 1965 phone message written by Mrs. Blankenship. This may have been her last message before her death. (Don is more sentimental than we knew!)
I didn't notice the blotter and will go back and rewatch. I watch the later show and am often deliriously sleepy by the end of the show. I also wondered if Joan would abort this baby because she was so concerned about her ability to conceive w/ her husband because of her previous "procedures". The only reason I think she may have was that she told Roger she felt "much better". I lost a child and had a "procedure" to have it removed and I felt like hell before hand but immediately afterwards I felt so much better physically, no more extreme nausea.
September 27, 2010 at 4:37PM ESTButjam Did you realize the tickets aren't together. One is for seat 3 while the other is for seat 5.
October 1, 2010 at 12:09PM ESTtigger500
September 27, 2010 at 10:22AM EST Reply to CommentNot at all surprised that Naturi Naughton's appearance was completely unnecessary. It seems odd that he'd hire so prominent a young black actress (well, at least, prominent among black folks) given some of the concern about how the show doesn't address race...and then completely waste her. I wonder why her appearance was so hyped.
How do you know that's the end of Naturi Naughton won't be coming back? I hope she will..I really like her.
September 27, 2010 at 4:33PM ESTklg19
September 27, 2010 at 10:23AM EST Reply to CommentDid I hear Don correctly in his first conversation with Pete about the security clearance? Pete asked "What would you do?" and Don replied "Whatever I have to," and then in response to Pete's shocked look, I thought I heard him say "You can run the agency."
If so, that's a massive vote of confidence for Don to give Pete and, while I understand Pete's unhappiness in having to give up on an account he'd worked on for three years, he didn't seem to acknowledge the enormity of that vote of confidence.
bad dad I watch with closed captioning. Don did say "You can run the agency". You are correct.
September 27, 2010 at 11:06AM ESTQueen of Perversions If anything, Pete's reaction to Don's assertion that he could run the agency seemed very nervous and a bit fearful. I thought Pete's demeanor during that scene was quite striking, as it was evident that the idea of running things clearly terrified him just a bit. Pete has definitely matured in comparison with the cocky son-of-a-bitch who was demanding a promotion by threatening blackmail in season 2. He seems far more aware of his limitations, as well as the team-oriented machinations of running an agency.
September 27, 2010 at 11:59AM ESTDaveMB Pete doesn't like Don, but he made the judgement in that instance that Don was more important to SCDP than a $4M account. What Don said was something of a vote of confidence, yes, but in practice it was a threat as well.
September 27, 2010 at 12:30PM ESTThe DoD still sends rather similar guys around to check the contacts of applicants for security clearances -- I've talked to the same guy a few times now about some of my former undergraduate students. It didn't seem to be a particularly thorough review in modern times, where the worry is more about an employee with a drug or gambling problem who might sell secrets rather than Commie Spies. (Though there was that strange business about deep-cover Russian moles earlier this year, wasn't there.)
Don/Dick is never more appealing to me than when he's saying "thank you" or "I'm sorry" -- he's remembering to do it a lot more this season as he struggles toward some kind of adulthood.
The sound of one man laughing Pete wasn't fool enough to believe (a) that he could run an agency, or (b) that Don believed he could. Don is the public face of that agency, and if Don is revealed as a deserter, they're all out looking for work.
September 27, 2010 at 9:41PM ESTHautie
September 27, 2010 at 10:24AM EST Reply to CommentThe thing with the writing on this show is they often refuse to give a straight answer to huge moments.
Look at how long they dragged out the Peggy being pregnant/had a baby/gave it up for adoption/ended up in the quite room... storyline. And they still never really ever made it clear what happen.
We just finally realize what happen to the baby when she told Pete, how she could have shamed him into marry her. But didn't.
So Joan pregnancy, most likely, it will never be made clear that she had the abortion. Why give a straight answer if you can drag it out?
And it kills me to no end when Pete gets all preachy about others behavior. I wonder how well Trudy would take it knowing about Pete's love child, that was born during their marriage.
halli But the indiscretion that caused it happened before the marriage. I'm much more upset with Pete about the dalliance with the au pair when Trudy's away than I am about the original situation with Peggy.
September 27, 2010 at 11:28AM EST
I'm going to disagree with you. It's been known for years what Peggy did with the baby, they mention it pretty clearly towards the beginning of Season 2.
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