'Louie' - 'Bully': War, huh? What is it good for?
The show goes dark as Louie is humiliated on a first date
Louie (Louis C.K.) faces a bully.
A review of last night's "Louie" coming up just as soon as I watch you eat a donut...
This is two weeks in a row now that "Louie" has essentially told a single story, but "Bully" felt as distinct from "Dogpound" as "Dogpound" did from the previous episode, and on and on. TV shows condition you to expect subtle variations from week to week, but while the themes of "Louie" - aging, wisdom, mortality - remain constant, Louis C.K. seems determined to keep people guessing about what style and format he'll use from week to week.
The episode was bookended, as usual, by funny stand-up - this time intercut with a mortifying but hilarious flashback to Louie's father giving his seven-year-old son Much Too Much Information about his strategy for satisfying a woman sexually - but in between was a long, dark, intentionally non-comic story about the power that teenage bullies can still have on grown-ass men, and then on the lessons that parents pass on to their children. It was deliberately uncomfortable at times, but still managed to find some brief light moments, like Louie's indigant dismissal of his date after she admits she was turned off by his response to the bully, or the laugh Louie and the bully's dad share about Louie's profession.
TNT's underrated "Men of a Certain Age" deals with a lot of the same issues "Louie" does, albeit in a different format, and it even had a story with some similarities to this one. Scott Bakula's character is almost run over by a distracted, inconsiderate driver, and he tracks the guy down to his house to gain satisfaction - even though he has no idea if he'll just lecture him, beat him up or what. But when he gets there, the man is with his wife, and his baby, and they're scared that this stranger came to their house, and Bakula's revenge fantasy dissipates as he realizes he looks pathetic and creepy. Once Louie started following the bully(*), I thought it was going to play out in similar fashion. Things still got ugly, but in their own very "Louie" way, where the mom can curse out Louie for daring to lecture them, yet the dad can recognize some truth in what Louie said and follow him outside for a bit of fellow father bonding.
(*) It also reminded me of one of my favorite DVD commentary lines of all time, which I think I've mentioned before. The original edition of the "Ferris Bueller" DVD has a commentary by John Hughes (which he had removed from later editions because he decided he wanted the movie to stand on its own), and when Vice Principal Rooney pulls up to the pizza parlor looking for Ferris, Hughes says, very dryly but in a way that always makes me laugh, "Now he's gone too far. He's left the school." Louie following the bully onto the subway was bad enough, but when he got on the Staten Island Ferry, it definitely felt like Ed Rooney time.
And the tag at the end, with adult Louie meeting his 7-year-old self, was something I've seen on many other shows ("How I Met Your Mother" did that gag with Jason Segel not long ago), but Louie's usual self-loathing and resignation - not even trying to contest the kid's "This is a nightmare. What happened to you?" - made it still funny, and still "Louie."
What did everybody else think?
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August 18, 2010 at 10:02AM EST Reply to CommentThere's nothing abut this show I don't love.
August 18, 2010 at 10:03AM EST Reply to CommentLouie, Louie, Louie, Looooouie
JStor Louie, Louie, you're gonna die!
August 18, 2010 at 10:09AM ESTWill
August 18, 2010 at 10:04AM EST Reply to CommentEven though the episode was somewhat light on the comedy, I really enjoyed this week's episode. These past two episodes have been a nice change of pace from what sometimes felt like sketches loosely connected by stand-up. Louie is definitely one of the best comedies on TV right now.
TC
August 18, 2010 at 10:07AM EST Reply to CommentThat was very very jarring. I get and like the point they were making, but it just didn't seem to fit here. I was really shaking my head...so much so that I missed the tag with the two Louies at the end. The sex lecture was hilarious, though.
JStor
August 18, 2010 at 10:14AM EST Reply to CommentIt was probably the least funny episode, but definitely the one that felt the most real out of all the episodes so far. The scenes with the bully, and then both his parents, felt shockingly cringe-worthy and authentic at the same time. I kept fearing that the show would go down the cliched route of learning some form of lesson.. but then realised what show this really is! Can't believe there are only 4 episodes left.
ken dynamo
August 18, 2010 at 10:38AM EST Reply to Commenti didnt like the last segment. i like how louie is experimenting with the traditional tv tropes but the characters didnt make any sense to me. frankly the dad slapping his son in front of a stranger and then coming out and bonding with louie was pretty hack to me.
Razorback
August 18, 2010 at 11:02AM EST Reply to CommentThis was my first full episode... and I loved it. I guess since I already watch Rescue Me (which was easily the best episode of the past two seasons last night), I can just stick around for this.
Maria
August 18, 2010 at 11:02AM EST Reply to CommentThe first scene reminds me of my own conversation with my Dad which went a little something like...
DAD - The man puts his penis in the woman's vagina.
ME - (thinks for a moment) How do you find it?
DAD - (considers this) You feel around for it.
check out a full recap at my website:
http://ology.com/screen/louie-recap-bully
LJA
August 18, 2010 at 11:19AM EST Reply to CommentA minor quibble, but it drives me insane. This is the second time they've used a blue-eyed kid to play brown-eyed Louis in flashbacks. Can't they find a brown-eyed redhead kid?
Otherwise, funny as hell.
anna seriously, get the kid some contacts.
August 18, 2010 at 3:46PM ESTRick
August 18, 2010 at 11:41AM EST Reply to CommentSO bleak. Just a brilliant show- I can't see this doing well on any other network.
And again, that pizza looks great.
George
August 18, 2010 at 12:21PM EST Reply to CommentA 21 minute episode has taken me more than an hour to watch; Louis stalking Shaun from the city to Staten was filled with tension and I believed Louis would be further embarrassed in the second confrontation, the guys a masochist but it always felt authentic and relatable.
The speech Shaun gave about savagely beating another guy just days previously was very frightening, he seemed completely warped, a master manipulator, however that image was completely stripped upon seeing him at home. He's juts another kid from a struggling family. A mind-blowingly accurate reconstruction of the dynamic between a gentle, older person and the violent youth, the only thing that rang false was Louis's date's verbal reaction; I could easily imagine her feeling such a turn off deep down, but there's no way she'd say that to Louis's face.
Another great episode, he can do much more than comedy. The tags were great too, young Louis repeating his father's advice had me in stitches
bob
August 18, 2010 at 12:29PM EST Reply to CommentSuper freaky cuz I swear I was eating a donut as I read the first sentence. Oooooooohhhhh....
Mulderism
August 18, 2010 at 12:52PM EST Reply to CommentI kinda like the show but it is so #$@#$ depressing at times.
JoeE
August 18, 2010 at 1:59PM EST Reply to CommentThe date rejecting Louie for being non-violent foreshadowed the wife chewing him out at the end of the episode. Women play a role in passing violence down from generation to generation as well.
Haven't been able to get this episode out of my head all day. Amazing TV.
M
August 18, 2010 at 3:37PM EST Reply to CommentThe scene with Louie's date admitting that his backing down was a turnoff was completely brilliant because it is a man's worst nightmare of what a woman would feel and, even though they might not admit it as Louie's date did, how a lot of women really would feel. It also showed how the situation was lose/lose for Louie and for basically any man in those circumstances. Had Louie fought the guy the date probably wouldn't have thought he was an agressive a-hole, but by backing down she thought he was a wimp. There was no way for him to win.
DrewGW Reply to comment...
August 18, 2010 at 9:07PM EST
August 18, 2010 at 10:25PM EST Reply to CommentAlan, does this show have a chance in hell of being remembered for the Emmys next year considering it came out in the summer is only 13 episodes? This and "Eastbound and Down" seem like these brilliantly dark shows that are destined to get zero attention
froggytuff
August 18, 2010 at 11:08PM EST Reply to CommentThey like this
Stephen P.
August 18, 2010 at 11:22PM EST Reply to CommentAbsolutely one of the best episodes yet. I'm loving how original this show is, and I hope it's allowed to last for as long as Louis CK wants it to.
Andy
August 19, 2010 at 1:03AM EST Reply to CommentOne thing I don't quite understand: Louie was in a fight in episode three with Nick. This directly contradicts the stand-up at the end of the episode where he says "I've never been in a fight."
Ben
August 19, 2010 at 7:00AM EST Reply to CommentI had a question for Alan, and it relates to the tone of this so-far-fantastic series:
Is LOUIE intended to be a realistic show with flights of fancy/surrealism (the latter would include Louie's blind date fleeing in the helicopter, the post-pot smoking coffeehouse paranoia, and even the talk between Louie and the bully's abusive father), a fantastic show with periods of realism (like Louie's flight to the South or his interaction with his admittedly horrible mom), or a blend that simply can't be categorized?
sepinwall "or a blend that simply can't be categorized?"
August 19, 2010 at 3:06PM ESTThat sounds about right to me.
Col Bat Guano
August 19, 2010 at 9:09AM EST Reply to CommentThat was quite a shift in tone, but it was so well done I wanted to punch that kid myself. Why do high school bullies have such power?
compain87
August 19, 2010 at 9:33PM EST Reply to CommentI liked this episode, but I couldn't help but imagine if the bully had come up to another comedian, Adam Carolla. Seeing as he was a former boxer and would have begrudgingly fought the testosterone filled teenager. That date was a lose/lose for Louie since no date with a woman could go well after you went outside and fought a teenager. In "500 days of Summer" we see that the opposite of that situation can end in a similar loss of respect from a woman.
August 20, 2010 at 3:36AM EST Reply to CommentIt's probably the most honest comedy on television right now.