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Interview: 'The Killing' showrunner Veena Sud on the season finale

Sud unapologetic for how things went, cryptic on season 2

<p>Billy Campbell in a scene from "The Killing" season finale.</p>

Billy Campbell in a scene from "The Killing" season finale.

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"The Killing" just concluded its first season and... well... I'm not a very happy camper right now. But you can go read my review for all of that.

I had the chance to speak to producer Veena Sud after I saw the finale, to discuss not only the way the episode went down, but to get her take on the season as a whole and some of the complaints people have had with it. Obviously significant spoilers for the finale and the season coming up after the jump...

First of all, at what point did you realize the season was going to end this way?

We knew from the very beginning we didn't want to do a formula cop show. In the original Danish series, as you might be aware, the investigation lasted for 20 episodes. There are pieces of that show that I think we still need to tell and to use, and are great.

But when you started out, you didn't know for sure if there would be a second season. Was there ever an alternate version of the ending, just in case - like, Linden and Jack just get on the plane without incident, Richmond's the killer, The End?

There wasn't. From the very beginning, there was a long long long discussion with all the partners in "The Killing." Again, let's not do a formula, let's not do the 45 minute formula, season formula, let's let the season be what it is organically, and this is where we see it going, and that's great. So there was no alternate ending written or shot. 

Well, just anecdotally, I have a lot of readers who are expecting closure on Sunday, and they're not going to get it. Is it fair for them to be expecting closure?

We never said you'll get closure at the end of season 1. We said from the very beginning this is the anti-cop cop show. It's a show where nothing is what it seems, so throw out expectations. We will not tie up this show in a bow. There are plenty of shows that do that, in 45 minutes or whatever amount of time, where that is expected and the audience can rest assured that at the end of blank, they will be happy and they can walk away from their TV satisfied. This is not that show.

The other thing, too, I want to remind our readers is that every episode is one day. This season 1 is 13 days in a high-profile murder investigation. And for the most part, most high-profile investigations don't get solved in 13 days.

So if you're trying to be the anti-formula show and mess with expectations, would we find out the result of this case in, say, episode 3 of next season? Or is this something where we're again going to have to wait the entire season to learn more?

I can tell you there will be a resolution to this investigation in season 2 and there will also be the emergence of another case in season 2, but I can't tell you specifically where either of those happen.

The other thing I just want to say is that the show itself is a real invitation to try something really new. And I know that some people may not be so happy that we didn't tie it up in a bow at the end of the season, but we never promised that, and we're trying to do something different here.

Did you know all along that Holder would have this hidden agenda?

Yes.

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Okay, because when we spoke before the season, you said that there might be certain parts of the story that you would figure out as you go, depending on how the work was going. But this wasn't one of those parts.

I didn't want to reveal too much about Holder. What we did with Holder was create a sense and a perception of he's one thing, then the revelation, "Oh no, he's not," and then another twist on that idea.

Just in looking at reviews and comments on the Internet, the reaction to this show has been mixed. Some people have loved it, and others have been frustrated with it. How much, if any, of either side of that have you been aware of?

My philosophy has been not to read too much, and not to read too much into stuff. I don't follow fan forums and don't read a lot of stuff on the Internet. I haven't read a lot about the show, expressly because I don't want to know. I've heard anecdotally that people are excited about the show, and I think that's great. But I also think it's very important for writers to preserve their inner compass and not get influenced by people who may like it or may not.

So if you've been operating by your inner compass, then what parts of these 13 episodes did you feel worked more strongly than others? What did you find were your strengths and weaknesses and how that might inform season 2?

Hmm... That's a good question. The great pleasure for me, and I'll couch it in terms of that versus positives and negatives, was for the first time as a writer of this genre to invest and really get to know characters. I love that, I loved the experience of that, I loved getting to know all these people, I loved creating perceptions of them, which is very true to life. That was a great pleasure for me.

Well, in terms of getting to know the characters better, we had that episode a few weeks ago, "Missing," where you essentially put the case on hold for an entire hour and just follow Holder and Linden around. Why did you decide to do that episode, and why place it at that specific point in the season?

I always wanted to do an episode where we would get to know our lead better, and would get to spend time, and in fact be forced to spend time in a situation with both these characters, and the sparing amounts of information we were given with Sarah, finally start to get some answers about who this woman is, why she does what she does, why she's a cop, ultimately. Her inner nature. It was also deeply inspired by the "Mad Men" episode with Don and Peggy in one night and the "Breaking Bad" episode where Jesse and Walter are stuck in the desert and dying. It's very much an AMC tradition, to take this rapid, unexpected detour from what we think might be a linear story, and find ourselves, as Walter and Jesse did, lost and trying to make sense. I loved that, I thought that was such a brilliant episode, and I wanted to do something like that.

How do you feel you did in terms of keeping Rosie present as a character, since she died right at the beginning of the series?

My intention was to get to know Rosie the way an investigator would get to know their victim. What I'm perpetually fascinated with, in researching cases like this, is that some cops will just become obsessed with them. These cops destroy their marriages, neglect their children and leave their families for a dead person they've never met, and in the course of the investigation they're just getting pieces of a person's life. That, to me, is fascinating, because what it really ultimately says is that Sarah Linden, like these detectives that become obsessed, are ultimately looking for something in themselves. That's why it's structured this way.

One of the ways in which the story progressed was that it seemed like Holder and Linden would settle in on one person at a time. This person would seem like the obvious suspect, the end of an episode would point at them as clearly the one who did it, and we'd come back at the start of the next episode, learn that it was a misunderstanding, and move on to the next one. In your research of these kinds of investigations, did you find that the cases tended to unfold in that way, or was it something that simply dramatically expedient?

We based a lot of the red herrings on what the Danes did. They did an excellent job, and we did that until they locked in on Bennet Ahmed, and he became a suspect for multiple episodes, and the suspicion deepened. I does feel like, initially, there's a bit of juggling between the "he did it," "she did it," "he said," "she said," the natural course of an investigation, and then landing on someone who the cops think potentially did it. And then we spent a while on that, until the twist that happened.

Obviously you can't talk about what's going to happen to Richmond with Belko right there, but you leave the Larsens themselves kind of up in the air. Beyond the cops, what characters are going to continue into season 2?

Unfortunately, we're not announcing any casting decisions right now for season 2.

In terms of the Larsens, is it challenging to write characters where - because this has covered only 13 days and their daughter died less than two weeks ago - they're trapped in their own grief? Is that a difficult thing to write to keep it from being repetitive?

I find it fascinating to write. I find what happens to a family fascinating and tragic, and not something we get to spend any time on ever, in television, except for this show. Usually families are shuttled in and out, and they're cliches. To be able to spend some time on a family and express their experience authentically, that was very important to me.

During that long stretch of the season when the cops weren't looking at Richmond as a suspect but we were still spending a lot of time following the campaign, what did you want viewers to take out of that?

I'm interested in people like Richmond who are, in the very beginning, falsely accused, and what are the ramifications, not only in your personal life, but in your professional life - especially if you are a political figure less than three weeks away from an important election. So seeing the triumphs and defeats that happen in the election, and amongst the people in the campaign, with a day as an episode, was really really intriguing to me. And the big twist, of course, is that towards the end of this season that Richmond is not the boy scout, the man of principle and morals that either we the audience or even his lover thought he was.

You brought up the "one episode equals one consecutive day" idea again. Is that something you're going to stick with next season?

I can't say anything about season 2 creatively right now.

Alan Sepinwall may be reached at sepinwall@hitfix.com

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Alan Sepinwall has been reviewing television since the mid-'90s, first for Tony Soprano's hometown paper, The Star-Ledger, and now for HitFix. His new book, "The Revolution Was Televised," about the last 15 years of TV drama, is for sale at Amazon. He can be reached at sepinwall@hitfix.com

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    John

    As much as she is probably good at her job overall, all the responses here just reinforce all of my complaints about this show. Almost as though she is spitting in the face of people complaining about the show. All responses come off very pretentious.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:12PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Jemma I agree. Her interview makes me regret watching the show.

      June 20, 2011 at 3:15AM EST
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      Tom I read her to be more deluded about how great the show is going than she is dismissive of criticism.

      June 20, 2011 at 9:36AM EST
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      mettle God forbid a writer doesn't cow to the almightty blogosphere critics! Bust out the torches.

      June 21, 2011 at 12:16AM EST
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    Chase

    She needs to be fired.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:12PM EST Reply to Comment
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    alynch

    Just curious Alan, when doing an interview like this, prior to asking any questions, do you just give a friendly warning along the lines of "By the way, I hated the finale and I'm about to unload on you with both barrels"?

    June 19, 2011 at 11:15PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Chip Yea I'm just picturing Alan's reactions to some of her answers but it seems like he kept it really professional

      June 19, 2011 at 11:36PM EST
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      mettle I think he has far more class than that as he showed appropriate restraint in the interview.

      June 21, 2011 at 12:17AM EST
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    silver

    All the ego of David Simon with 1/4 of the talent. It's like belief in one's own infallibility is a prerequisite for making it in tv drama (the Lost guys, Milch, Simon).

    June 19, 2011 at 11:24PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Jeff She has perhaps 1/64 of Simon's talent and intellect. What a travesty this show turned out to be.

      June 20, 2011 at 12:29AM EST
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      That Guy I'd argue you need to love and appreciate your work to make it in the industry, especially as a writer... and a female one. May not objectively be the best, but it's what needs to happen.

      June 21, 2011 at 12:29PM EST
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    Chris

    Good interview, terrible interviewee...

    June 19, 2011 at 11:32PM EST Reply to Comment
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    j man

    Hahahahahaha . That was high comedy . She thinks her show is way better than it is. Please don't compre the career development to BREAKING BAD and MAD MEN. Delusional.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:33PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Caitlin Agreed!

      Also, does anyone remember the trailer(s) at the beginning of the season on amctv.com that said, "Who killed Rosie Larsen?" again and again? That "teaser" sequence basically implied that everyone would be talking about this amazing show and that that question would be answered if you watched this season of The Killing. I can't believe that they didn't answer it! If the writer/producer wanted to emulate the Danish show completely, then they should have made all 20 episodes in one season.

      June 20, 2011 at 7:55PM EST
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    echos myron

    Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case. Cold Case.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:33PM EST Reply to Comment
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    clintboxe

    A twist is good when it's clever (see the Usual Suspects). This was not clever. Just stupid.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:47PM EST Reply to Comment
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      spacey there's a fine line between clever and stupid.

      June 20, 2011 at 4:00PM EST
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      webdiva No, actually, there's not -- it's a pretty clear distinction, and this show crossed the line into stupid a long time ago.

      June 21, 2011 at 9:54AM EST
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      thatguy I'm not afraid of god, but I am afraid of this terrible show.

      June 22, 2011 at 3:42AM EST
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      Kmarko Think Spacey is dropping a Spinal Tap reference, Webdiva....

      June 22, 2011 at 10:45AM EST
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    bigperm33

    I had to stop reading this I was getting so angry. I can't stand when people say they don't read or hear feedback. Really? You are that arrogant? Every one of her comments just sounds absurdly obnoxious. If you don't want to solve it in one season, fine. I disagree, but fine. But what about everything else? You gave us zero depth on every single character out there. Ugh. Why am I writing this? Why am i wasting my time. This show has already wasted 13 hours of my life.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:48PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Col Bat Guano Seriously, she thought we got to know these characters?

      June 20, 2011 at 1:46AM EST
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    Olivia

    Awesome interview. As someone who is also frustrated, I laughed as I was reading your questions. You went at her guns hot!

    June 19, 2011 at 11:54PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Nicholas H.

    I tell ya, this would have been my last professional interview if I was in your shoes. You were way, way too easy on her. After about the eighth or ninth time of her saying she she made an original, non formulaic show, I would have stormed out, purchased Twin Peaks on DVD, come back, and thrown it in her face. I'm usually indifferent to shows/actors/writers I don't like(who has the energy, ya know?), but I'm developing a real hatred for Sud.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:58PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Mirri Maz Right after you throw the original Danish show in her face I hope...I stopped watching around episode 5 or 6 because I felt we were not getting anything out of it, I think everyone enjoys TV because it builds characters the way movies can't but there has to be some sort of reward in the end.

      I also commend you on not cussing her for being so arrogant, it must have been a chore to interview her.

      June 20, 2011 at 7:23AM EST
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    Mike

    Quick question for Alan....Did Sud give an interview to a large group of critics about the finale? Browsing twitter I saw other critics w very similar questions and answers about the finale, just seemed kind of odd

    June 20, 2011 at 12:04AM EST Reply to Comment
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      sepinwall She spoke to several people, but they were all individual interviews. I just think her talking points were well-rehearsed, which is why the answers are fairly similar throughout.

      June 21, 2011 at 6:31AM EST
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    DAB84

    that was unbelievably obtuse hahaha i can't believe how ridiculous that interview was. WOW

    as some have mentioned already, COMPARING YOURSELF TO "THE SUITCASE" and "FOUR DAYS OUT"!! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!? ARE YOU FREAKIN SERIOUS?!?!?! you're lucky to even HAVE a television show, let alone having one of the worst season finales i've ever watched. and then comparing yourself to mad men and breaking bad. wow this woman is looney.

    i can't believe i wasted my life on this show.

    June 20, 2011 at 12:06AM EST Reply to Comment
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    chewyenchilada

    So based on her feeling toward the show, everything worked, and nothing was irrelevant? Is there anyway that I can have her job so that I too can have a dog pick out my dialogue from a book of television cliches, or perhaps draw the killer's name out of a hat at the start of the season and then complete undermine the best character of the series by making him in on the scandal.

    You have destroyed what should have been a quality series Veena Sud, and have you ever even been to Washington State?

    June 20, 2011 at 12:10AM EST Reply to Comment
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    ed

    Done with this show too, Alan. Disaster alert!

    June 20, 2011 at 12:12AM EST Reply to Comment
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    NoHoGreg

    Really disappointed in the reaction to this interview in the comment comments. They are unnecessarily sexist and insulting. Those who went there are less intelligent than the allegedly crappy television they are deriding.

    June 20, 2011 at 12:17AM EST Reply to Comment
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      paterickschmede I think you're being a bit sensitive and preemptive. If she was a man, they'd be saying this guy is crazy.

      How do you want people to refer to her? As person?

      It doesn't seem that they're using her sex against her, just her intelligence and arrogance. If you want to get into semantics and psychoanalyze the thread, by all means.

      June 20, 2011 at 3:20AM EST
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      Kevin Johnson Yeah. Clearly you haven't seen the responses to the (hundreds of) Tim Kring interviews.

      June 20, 2011 at 4:56PM EST
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      sepinwall I've also deleted some of the more blatantly sexist comments, which are specifically dismissive of her because she's a woman and/or include various misogynist epithets.

      June 21, 2011 at 6:33AM EST
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      webdiva Well, I can tell you this: I've been a devotee of many varieties of murder mystery since I was a kid, and those authors include plenty of prominent women -- I grew up on Agatha Christie, and my library includes plenty of Patricia Cornwell along with some Patricia Highsmith -- and I still think Veena Sud created a dud that is worth swearing about. I don't mind stories that are unconventional (quite the opposite!), but you have to give me at least one character I can care about and enough about that character along the way to keep me interested. It can be the victim, the investigator, an accused, or a bystander -- I don't care who it is, but give me SOMETHING at regular points to keep my interest. Veena Sud didn't do that. She's basing her impressions of who likes the show on ratings alone (and so is AMC, I'm betting) when a good percentage of those viewers were watching simply for closure. And now they didn't get it, and they're pissed. I predict those ratings will plummet next season because you can't let months go by and still have that many people care about who killed the girl; the audience will have forgotten key clues after merely a month's absence, let alone several months (and don't count on too many viewers rewatching episodes in their free time, not when they're this pissed off!). This arrogant wench and her masters all need to be smacked upside the head and fired ... but it won't happen because of the ratings: AMC doesn't care why people watch as long as they do. But that phenomenon won't repeat. Wait and see. Season 2 will be a ratings dud as well as an artistic one.

      And I say this as a fiercely intelligent woman: you've insulted MY intelligence, bitch, and I don't take that lightly. My eyes will be elsewhere next season ... possibly on a new mystery novel or on reruns of PBS's Poirot, but *not* on your show. It's shite.

      June 21, 2011 at 10:11AM EST
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    DC

    Goodness, she's either arrogant or tone deaf. Either she truly has no clue why so many people hate her show now, or she's putting up a very good front.

    June 20, 2011 at 12:28AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Jared K

    I suppose from an objective point of view, that there's something admirable about a showrunner sticking to her beliefs and being willing to stand so completely behind the work she has put forward. But I'll be damned if I can appreciate it right now. In my current mood, Veena Sud's answers come across as obstinate and stubborn at their best, arrogant and even contemptuous at their worst. While it's perfectly fine - even justifiable - not to listen to what critics have to say about your work, you can't act like it's unassailable, or that viewers are somehow at fault for having unreasonable expectations. It's just very unpleasant to see those words on the page.

    I won't say I feel cheated by "The Killing" and its finale, because that implies a sense of entitlement that I'm not comfortable with. However, I will freely admit to being frustrated, disappointed, and even a little bit angry that Veena Sud holds no such reservations, and that she would treat the expectations of her viewers with such careless indifference. Maybe she didn't come up with the marketing campaign "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?", but if character and extended plot development were going to be the calling card for this series, then it was her responsibility as a showrunner to inspire her viewers to invest in those qualities - and she failed. To see her namedrop Mad Men and Breaking Bad like that perfectly encapsulates her apparent lack of awareness for how to build those moments and characters that make for great television drama. Just because your show airs on the same network as two of the best dramas on TV does not entitle you to the benefit of the doubt. You have to earn your viewers' trust in a relatively quick fashion, or risk them defecting when payday comes.

    Yes, I still want to know "who killed Rosie Larsen?" - no thanks to Veena Sud. But the beauty of the modern viewing landscape is that now I can put off on watching Season 2 until I know if she and her creative team have garnered greater humility and knowledge over the hiatus, and applied those concepts to this series. If not, then a quick click of the mouse will eventually tell me who the murderer was, so that I can close the book on this series with no regrets. In the meantime, I might have to check out the Danish series, to see how this format works when its done right, and how this creative team managed to twist it up so badly.

    At least we'll have Breaking Bad this summer to remind us what AMC can do at its best. Here's hoping they can resume their streak of creative excellence when "Hell on Wheels" debuts this fall.

    June 20, 2011 at 12:28AM EST Reply to Comment
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      SR Well said.

      A mystery is not just a series of "gotcha" revelations arbitrarily thrown into a story.

      Everything Don Draper does flows from his history and identity. The late season revelations about Rosie, Richmond and Holder have no foundation in the first 8 episodes.

      June 20, 2011 at 3:01AM EST
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      JanieJones Well said x2. You encapsulated your feelings (and mine) with excellent points. Cheers!

      June 20, 2011 at 6:25PM EST
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      Artist Kate I like the statment... a mystery is not just a series of "gotcha" revelations. Exactly!

      June 20, 2011 at 8:19PM EST
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      RedHerring As a big Lost fan, I am a little bit sympathetic to Veena Sud as everyone attacks her for being arrogant. I agree that a showrunner should (at least mostly) stay true to his or her compass and create the show that was always intended. Unfortunately, in this case, that show just wasn't that good, but I don't really have any reason to believe that it would have been better if she'd had more input from unhappy viewers. I'm unfamiliar with Ms. Sud's other work, so I don't have anything else to build an opinion on, but based on "The Killing," I don't really think I'm a fan. Congrats to her (honestly) for getting to make the show she wanted to make. I now know that that isn't anything I'm interested in watching.

      June 21, 2011 at 2:17PM EST
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    Eric

    "There are plenty of shows that do that...where that is expected and the audience can rest assured that at the end...they will be happy and they can walk away from their TV satisfied. This is not that show."

    What do you guys mean she's deluded? She summed the show up perfectly.

    June 20, 2011 at 12:42AM EST Reply to Comment
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      webdiva Yeah, she did -- the part where the delusion comes in is that she thought any of this actually **worked** when clearly, it didn't. David Simon she's NOT.

      June 21, 2011 at 10:23AM EST
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    chuchundra

    This is the anti-cop show? What does that mean beyond the fact that the cops don't know how to do their fracking jobs?

    June 20, 2011 at 12:43AM EST Reply to Comment
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    DougMac

    She somehow managed to make things even worse

    June 20, 2011 at 12:55AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Bill

    "I can't saying anything about Season 2 creatively right now"

    Because NOTHING creative happens.

    June 20, 2011 at 1:02AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Tim

    You dont want to wrap it all up in season 1, this is not that show, u wanted to do something different? Thats not different, plenty of shows leave things open for following seasons. Difference is, your show isnt good enough and your characters not nearly interesting enough to do that. And now in reading her responses, it makes perfect sense why this show was what it was. Awful

    June 20, 2011 at 1:04AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Asb

    Sounds like she thinks she's written The Wire when she wouldn't be able to pull off a decent episode of Scooby Doo.

    June 20, 2011 at 1:05AM EST Reply to Comment
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      WJD Hey, why do you have to bring Scooby into this?

      Actually I would have preferred a Scooby Doo ending for the finale. "Yes I killed Rosie Larson...and I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!".

      June 21, 2011 at 12:34PM EST
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    Joe M

    Sud sucks

    June 20, 2011 at 1:14AM EST Reply to Comment
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    nath

    The fact that her answers were so vague and that she doesn't seem to respond to feedback are pretty depressing for the future prospects of this show, imo. Compare that interview to the ones Alan's done with David Simon, Vince Gilligan, et. al. Her answers had little to no substance behind them.

    June 20, 2011 at 1:18AM EST Reply to Comment
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      MO Sud sounds like a poor excuse for a showrunner. While some of the best shows come from their creators sticking to their original beliefs, Sud has done nothing yet in the show to hint at any quality the show's future could offer. The characters on the show should have a hint of depth to justify such stubbornness from the showrunner. FAIL.

      That Sud sounds like a smug, entitled mug only makes this worse. Also doesn't do favors for those who were planning on sticking with the show in the second season. How did she end up in charge of this show? It's baffling, given the talent that others could actually have applied to a winning formula.

      My problem is not with the format of the show, but with the failure to execute. You can take a cow and make steak or burnt hamburger. No question which one the Killing is...

      June 20, 2011 at 1:50AM EST
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      nath ...a cow patty?

      June 20, 2011 at 6:33PM EST
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      webdiva YES!

      June 21, 2011 at 10:43AM EST
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      MO Haha, yes, cow patty it is. And here I thought I was being too harsh with "burnt hamburger":)

      June 22, 2011 at 6:01AM EST
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    evie

    I find it particularly hysterical that she talks about the importance of "getting to know the characters" since everything we learned about the characters was basically false. Mitch abandons her husband and children at their moment of greatest need? Holden is a conspirator?

    Glad to hear she's not bothering with any actual viewer opinions on the show. Makes ignoring her show next seasonl that much sweeter.

    June 20, 2011 at 1:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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    BKDrama

    *rolls eyes* Whatever, girl.

    June 20, 2011 at 2:01AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Erin

    Jeez, is it any wonder that Sud doesn't read feedback on the internet? So far in these comments alone, we've got names such as 'bitch' a couple times and 'girl' to refer to a grown woman, plus the accusation that Sud literally prostituted herself in order to get better reviews for her show. Believe it or not, a television show's ineptitude is not due to its producer being female!

    June 20, 2011 at 2:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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      paterickschmede I guess I'll go ahead and add race. She reminds me of M. Night Shymalan. I remember watching interviews and he had the same stubbornness and arrogance about Lady In The Water and The Happening.

      If you're someone who tends be easy on shows or defensive once they've given you a reason to like them or just protective of work by women or that are woman-centralized...I get it.

      But this is bad. This is less than it should have been, and all the flashes of goodness in it were teases and lies as to what it would become. People are taking it out on her, because it can only be her fault.

      They gave her Deadwood, The Shield, Mad Men, Sopranos, The Wire, House, Lost and Dexter directors, so she'd never want for direction. This show was well casted as the first 3 or 4 episodes and last 2 or 3 proved, but this is bad.

      This show, with the Danish original as a template and cheat sheet could've been made on autopilot with the talent given to it. This however was given strong direct choices that hurt and ruined what it could've been. And the lack of focus on what should've been payoffs on the show aren't bold, they're anti-story, anti-character and anti-narrative.

      She sucks, because she was given so many tools and so much trust to produce something great, and she made something less than the bare minimum.

      If you, Erin had been writing and working in television for half a decade and were given this oppurtunity, I promise you could have made a better show than this woman and you'd be savvy enough to know whether you're pissing in your own fans' faces while you half-defend/half-condescend your show against people.

      This is how LeBron James would defend his television show.

      June 20, 2011 at 4:23AM EST
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      Jan "This is how LeBron James would defend his television show."

      June 20, 2011 at 9:28AM EST
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      Jan Damn you, Hitfix-Comment-System!
      Just wanted to point out how thoroughly I enjoyed that line.

      June 20, 2011 at 9:31AM EST
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    Prunella

    Veena Sud rocks, and I just want her to know that a lot of us out here get it and are quite satisfied with the way the show is going. Can't wait for next season!

    June 20, 2011 at 2:45AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Sandra I went to school with Veena at Barnyard (er..excuse me.. mean Columbia). She was pretentious then, always plageurizing
      themes from "the ghetto" and coming off as someone who spent time on the poor side of town. Not surprised at the way this turned out at all.

      December 16, 2011 at 10:41PM EST
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