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'How I Met Your Mother' - 'Natural History': Hands on a hard mummy

One week after a series low point, the "HIMYM" creators give us a vintage, sweet, funny episode

<p>Ted (Josh Radnor), Lily (Alyson Hannigan) and Marshall enjoy a black tie night out on "How I Met Your Mother."</p>

Ted (Josh Radnor), Lily (Alyson Hannigan) and Marshall enjoy a black tie night out on "How I Met Your Mother."

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A review of tonight's "How I Met Your Mother" coming up just as soon as I pelt you with my Phish bootlegs...

Whew.

I was beginning to worry that, despite the summer assurances of Bays and Thomas, that season six was going to be another frustrating one like season five. I'd only liked a handful of this season's episodes, and even then felt like I was grading the better ones on a curve. The Bays/Thomas-scripted "Natural History," on the other hand, felt as close to classic "HIMYM" as we've gotten in a very long time.

It wasn't perfect, mind you. I still feel the writers are, as Fienberg noted in the comments last week, trying too hard to make Zoey happen, particularly since it would seem she's not The Mother(*). I have no problem with the show spending time on non-Mother relationships with Ted, particularly if they don't spent time being cute about the woman's potential Mother-hood (as opposed to what they did with Stella). But I don't think Josh Radnor has the same chemistry with Jennifer Morrison that he's had with a lot of previous Ted love interests (including, early on, Sarah Chalke), and the whole "I hate you! Now I love you!" thing has felt a bit forced.

(*) We know at least two concrete things about The Mother: 1)She was in the Econ lecture hall the day Ted thought it was his class, and 2)She was Rachel Bilson's roommate less than a year ago. While those don't automatically disqualify Zoey from Mother-hood - she could have married The Captain far more recently than she said while scamming Ted, and she might be waiting to mention the embarrassing Econ lecture when she gets to know/like him better - she doesn't seem to fit the puzzle that's been laid out.

That said, the moment where Ted said the words that finally melted Zoey's cold grudge was a nice one, both because it had been so well set-up by the juvenile running gag about the room's acoustics, and because that conversation with The Captain (nicely-played by Kyle MacLachlan) is the most human Ted's been in a while. This is the guy I really liked once upon a time; the guy whose future I actually cared about, rather than the guy whose stories I tolerated while waiting for Barney or Robin or Marshall to do something funny(**) in a subplot. A week ago, I was dreading the idea of Morrison being around for a while. Now? Maybe it could work.

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(**) Here's how good a job Bays and Thomas did of redeeming their leading man this week: Ted was consistently the funniest part of the episode. And not in a "the other characters had bad writing" way; Ted's mocking of Zoey's apparent hypocrisy was genuinely funny, and a highlight in an episode that also featured a lot of good stuff for the supporting cast. There. I said it. Ted Mosby was the comic highlight of a very good episode of "HIMYM." It can happen.

This was actually a great episode for making sure all the characters were drawn on a human scale. The Barney/Robin story started off as a silly but entertaining lark, then took an abrupt left turn when the security guard casually mentioned Barney's dad, and Neil Patrick Harris was great in the aftermath scene as Barney told Robin how he felt about the news. Even by the usual standards of Barney's a Real Boy scenes, that was a cut above.

The Lily/Marshall subplot, meanwhile, not only gave us some welcome flashbacks to the gang's college days (including a callback to the old sandwiches=marijuana gag), but addressed a question the show's needed to deal with ever since Marshall took the job at Barney's firm: how long before he felt safe/frustrated enough to quit, thus being true to his character, yet depriving the show of the great Barney/Marshall workplace dynamic? It felt right that Corporate Marshall would feel differently about the world and his life than College Marshall (Extinct), and Lily's conversation with the latter species felt honest and sweet, with a few nice jokes (Corporate Marshall's stamina, the return of Jane's Addiction) sprinkled in.

There were a lot of "I finally deleted the show from my DVR" comments last week. I hope at least a few of those were empty threats, because I'd hate to think everybody dropped out right before they missed them some vintage "HIMYM." I'm not saying the show is necessarily back for good, but a show that's capable of generating an episode like this is one where I'm going to suffer through the likes of "Canning Randy" in hopes of seeing again.

What did everybody else think?

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    ronmexico

    Fun ep - hadn't seen it for a while due to Chuck (and a single-tuner DVR). I liked the chemistry between Ted and Zoey, and really liked the setup as well, with Trey inadvertently putting his foot in his mouth. A lot of emotion in this one, with Barney's realization about his dad and the poignant Marshall corporate drone storyline!

    November 8, 2010 at 11:01PM EST Reply to Comment
    • I had the same problem for awhile, it's easier to leave Chuck for in the morning. It's on Hulu and OnDemand (at least it is for me with TimeWarner), while HIMYM isn't. Watch Chuck on Tuesday, record HIMYM.
      It's worth it, especially after this week!

      November 9, 2010 at 1:53PM EST
    • HIMYM is on cbs.com; full episodes, posted Tuesday.

      November 9, 2010 at 7:05PM EST
    • Loganhand2-3_80x80_talkback_profile

      qrter Really, the chemistry between Ted and Zoey? I feel like they have absolutely zero chemistry.

      November 10, 2010 at 1:52PM EST
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      Joe they also have a lot of the episodes the dont have on cbs.com on videosurf.com

      November 10, 2010 at 3:44PM EST
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    Peter

    I liked it but didn't think it was quite as strong as you did. The whole Zoe plotline is horrendous, with its only redeeming moment the repeated use of Ted's made-up title "Galactic President Superhero McAwesome." For me the highlight was definitely Robin declining hors d'ouvres for her penguin friend since "he's stuffed"!

    November 8, 2010 at 11:04PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Hannah Lee The penguin joke was stupidly funny, but I actually laughed out loud at it.

      The Barney-Robin one-upsmanship was geniunely funny, and seemed true to both the characters. *This* was the Robin we haven't seen for so,so long, and I was glad she was back. The Marshall/Lily and Ted/Zoey stuff didn't work as much for me. It think it's because, as others have mentioned, the Marshall/Lily plot depended on them doing OOC things (ie not telling each other everything, and because the Ted/Zoey stuff just feels really forced, so none of their emotional moments felt earned to me. The running "Galactic President Superhero McAwesome" and monicle bits did make me laugh.

      November 9, 2010 at 12:12AM EST
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      jenfullmoon Barney and Robin knocked it out of the park on so many levels in this one.

      Except for Zoey the eyesore (I'll keep The Captain, though), it was a darned good episode.

      November 9, 2010 at 2:04PM EST
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      Swarley TO SUM UP THE SHOW:

      Barney hooking up random girlfriends/wives/First Ladies = AWESOME

      Ted falling for some old dude's annoying wife = NOT AWESOME

      If I wanted to watch a show about people stealing other people's spouses, I would have watched "The Class" on CBS. Find your own spouse Ted, and someone who is a lot less grating on the nerves.

      November 11, 2010 at 12:02PM EST
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    JJ

    Fantastic episode all around. I haven't liked Ted this much (or think he's been this non-Douchey) since Season 4. This is the opposite of the Ted who had been saving a box with "For My Biographer" written on it.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:05PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Chrissy

    I really liked it. It felt witty, for the first time, in a long time. It also, as you mentioned, made good use of Ted - I liked his framing his anger about the editorial in it being crossword day, and I loved the top hat and monocle tax.

    For a while, I would have said Lily and Marshall were the low point, mostly because I think Lily was being really unfair. She wants to own a nice apartment in New York City, have three kids, and buy designer clothes (and she wants to be a kindergarten teacher), but she begrudges Marshall a career that pays well? But they dealt with it really nicely, gave Lily a great scene with college Marshall, and even subverted my expectations about the echo spot (which I assumed would get use through Marshall accidentally revealing to Bob Odenkirk how he feels about GNB in some sort of lame misunderstanding).

    Good, good show, show.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:07PM EST Reply to Comment
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      jenfullmoon It did seem a little late (2.5 years) for Lily to think that Marshall is ever going to have the law career that he wanted at this point, but otherwise it was pretty well done. Though yeah, it should have been brought up that between her debt and the Dowisetrepla place and wanting kids, all of those choices mean that Marshall doesn't get that dream. (Maybe that needs an "Extinct" exhibit.)

      November 9, 2010 at 1:59PM EST
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      Chrissy I was happy Marshall at least brought that up during their final conversation. He might not be living his college dream, but he's working to build their mutual dream of family (and, let's face it, some level of material comfort).

      I hope Marshall opens his own practice. He could take on a certain number of pro bono clients while also making moolah. Everyone's happy.

      November 9, 2010 at 2:34PM EST
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      Maggie Q I agree with Chrissy. It's not strictly an either/or situation. Plenty of people manage to hold corporate jobs to pay the bills, and give time or money to charitable endeavors that they believe in. The show made it sound like if you want to make money and spend it on your family, you have to spend it all on your family.

      November 10, 2010 at 7:46AM EST
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    JSW

    This show still makes me laugh but I really feel that it's borders on insanity, to not have the mother by this point in the series. Yeah yeah yeah, I have heard all the counter arguments to the mother and they are all horse shit.

    The mother is not the end of the show. She is also not representative of this show jumping the shark. She's the mom and if you name your show HIMYM, then you need to introduce the freaking mother. The fact that we have another NON-MOTHER aka a character building waste of time for Ted, is just a flip off to the audience.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:08PM EST Reply to Comment
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      lannes314 Agreed. This was a pretty good episode, but Zoey can't be the mother, and it's high time she appeared. No one's saying she and Ted should fall in love at first sight. But to see the courtship we need to see the mother.

      November 8, 2010 at 11:18PM EST
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      McKenna Well, the name of the show is How I /Met/ Your Mother, not How I Dated Your Mother. Ted will meet her in the last scene of the last episode, and that's how it should happen.

      November 9, 2010 at 12:46AM EST
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    Adam

    Aren't you forgetting how this season opened up where they tell us the third thing about the mother and how he meets her at the lesbian wedding of Rachel Bilson? So How could it be Zoey and the end of this episode is setting us up for a episode later in the season where Marshal Leaves GNB right??

    November 8, 2010 at 11:10PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Kaylee We were never told that the wedding where Ted meets the mother was Rachel Bilson's, even though he implied that she married the girl she kissed in the same episode where we saw the lead up to the wedding. Why would Ted and Marshall be in their wedding party? The wedding has to be someone close to the gang (my money's heavily on Barney and Robin).

      November 9, 2010 at 12:19AM EST
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      sepinwall We weren't told whose wedding it was, but thanks for reminding me of that, Adam. Clearly, Zoey is 100 percent not The Mother. Not that I ever thought she was, but that's even more blatant evidence than what we learned in the 100th episode last year.

      November 9, 2010 at 11:20AM EST
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      saneman In the hope that mother meeting won't be held off until the last episode, I thought that the wedding might be for Ted's mum and Clinton... it's that or some other couple we haven't met yet. I'd also like to hope the wedding well arrive for the end of season.

      This season todate is a step up from last season, but this episode was welcome reminder of the quality work alround that distinguishes a show like himym.

      Having recently rewatched season one I have being thinking what (if anything) has changed, about what was missing from more and more episodes as the show has aged. This episode had a season one quality flavour, but there was still something missing that may yet return. In season one Ted's search had more of an impact on his friends lives (e.g., Lily's cold feet being sparked from her bonding with Miss Drumroll) and vice versa, even if "she" wasn't the mother you could see how that step meant a lot to Ted. If Zoe does end up inspiring a change in the charters (as you say Adam, it be nice if that character was Marshall) then we might be back to the old form.

      November 9, 2010 at 5:46PM EST
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    cadfile

    I enjoyed the episode even though I still buy the whole "destroy Ted Mosby" plot - why attack an architect when it is GNB wanting to tear down the building.

    Does Ted know if he becomes friends with Zoey he will also have to become friends with Dr. House?

    November 8, 2010 at 11:11PM EST Reply to Comment


  • Great episode. One of the best in a while. All the stories clicked, and like you said Alan, Ted was genuinely funny.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:12PM EST Reply to Comment
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    ZacharyTF

    The best episode of the season by far. Everything worked for me. The payoff to the acoustic gag was great (I would do the same thing Ted does).

    My favorite part was the writers working in the revelation of Barney's father as a brief aside and not building up to the reveal. Nice job guys.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:13PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Jon88

    Future Ted consistently refers to Zoe as Zoe. If she turns out to be Mother, this will be retroactively bizarre.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:20PM EST Reply to Comment
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      DougMac Plus he asked the kids if they remebered Zoe. Not the mama.

      Kyle McLaughlin was great as the Captain though. Storngest episode in a long time.

      November 9, 2010 at 6:35AM EST
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    Matt Cafaro

    Alan, not all of us hated last weeks episode as much as you did, and it was actually fairly evenly split in the comments.

    It was no Robots vs. Wrestlers, which is the low water mark in this show's history, proudly showcasing Ted and his absolute worst and douchiest.

    It has to be said, amidst the all "disappointment" that an "off" episode of HIMYM is still better than 90% of what passes for comedy on television today. I call this the 30rock Corollary.

    Good episode. The women looked beautiful (especially Robin) and the Barney-Robin plot was awesome, their chemistry off the charts.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:22PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Ed W I have to respectfully disagree about the low water mark. It had to be the episode where they had Barney reveal a complete phony other family, a cartoonishly over the top plot that even Family Guy might have cringed at.

      November 9, 2010 at 4:56AM EST
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      Amanda I agree with you Ed W that that episode is terrible but the worst episode ever must be when Marshall got robbed by a monkey last season!

      November 9, 2010 at 8:30AM EST
    • Agree that Robin (finally) looked healthy. I thought the actress was sickly or something, but maybe it's how they are doing her makeup because she did look stunning last night.

      November 9, 2010 at 11:25AM EST


  • There were some funny lines, but this episode did not add up to a solid whole for me. And I really, really hate the Zoey character. I would not at all mind seeing a gargoyle or a cornice fall off this antique building and turn her into a stain on the pavement.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:26PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Jon

    I wasn't crazy about the Marshall/Lily part. The reason for starting the GNB job was financial and much of that was due to Lily. Plus she's changed a lot. It feels like the writers suddenly remember things and then conveniently put them into stories only to forget them again.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:27PM EST Reply to Comment
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    J

    The stuff with the monacle guy was hilarious

    November 8, 2010 at 11:32PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Karyn

    I really enjoyed this episode. Every character got a plot-advancing storyline, there were a ton of great one-liners, and there was still emotional heft.

    The montage of Barney and Robin touching a bunch of stuff was such vintage chemistry, too. It reminded me why I cared so much about them in the first place; they make great friends. I still don't like how they've totally forgotten about Lily's massive debt but whatever. I laughed a lot at this episode.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:32PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Andrew

    I haven't disagreed with you more in a long time. I hated this episode almost as much as last week's train wreck. Zoey is terrible (makes me think of Brandon Routh on Chuck last year, bad times) and was in an episode long battle with Ted for more despicable character in the arc.

    Unfortunately, neither of them could top Lily, who is just an awful human being at this point. She's the reason Marshall took that job with her massive hidden debt! And since when do they not tell each other everything. And we weren't set up to believe that Marshall would EVER stay at GNB so that felt like just a plot machination.

    Barney and Robin were OK, but it was still too over the top and the ending was... just something I'm not interested in. I don't care who Barney's dad is. Much like I increasingly don't care who Ted's wife is.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:34PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Gus Thanks, Andrew. Glad to know I'm not the only one who thought this was a weak episode. I guess it comes down to what you want out of the show. To me, HIMYM's writers are at their best when they're trying to be funny, and at their worst when they're trying to tug at the heartstrings or convey some pseudo-profound truth about becoming an adult. This episode was mostly the latter. Even the comedy was designed to set up some Family Ties-style "hugging and learning" moment at the end.

      To add to what you said about the awful Marshall-Lily arc: I love how at the very end, after all that treacle, they do a big "Never mind" and tell you that Marshall ditched the corporate life after all.

      November 9, 2010 at 6:17PM EST


  • Who is the designer of the red dress that Lily was wearing?

    November 8, 2010 at 11:38PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Heather Reply to comment...

      November 9, 2010 at 11:12AM EST
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      shanley I want to know too!! Please tell us!

      November 18, 2010 at 12:42AM EST
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      Katherine Chloe and Reese
      http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446381641&site_refer=AFF001&site_refer=AFF001&siteID=J84DHJLQkR4-I9VmFEOpOENDdWuD_GI7LA&LScreativeid=474193388625&LSlinkid=15&LSoid=210631&LSsid=J84DHJLQkR4

      November 18, 2010 at 2:05AM EST
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    Ian

    Zoey as a character is far from perfect, but Jennifer Morrison was just an awful choice for a season long arc.

    November 8, 2010 at 11:38PM EST Reply to Comment
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      LJA I totally agree. Morrison is terrible, and there is absolutely NO chemistry between Zoey and Ted.

      November 9, 2010 at 12:47PM EST
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      knifoon Ditto. Do Not Like.

      November 9, 2010 at 1:57PM EST
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    fbihop

    Ted's riffs on the guy with the monocle (“Good luck killing James Bond” and "It's a great look, I think it could come back. One question: Does it cost half as much as glasses?”

    November 8, 2010 at 11:56PM EST Reply to Comment
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      fbihop ) killed me. Great episode.

      November 8, 2010 at 11:57PM EST
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    mike

    Just to clarify, Marshall took the job with Nicholson, Hewitt, & West because of Lily's prodding (which was caused by her hidden debt). Marshall took the job at GNB because he didn't have a job for months after quitting because Artillery Arthur yelled at him. The mortgage he threw them into, not Lily, she wanted to rent. Not that any of this matters, but I wanted to double-check because I was having the same kind of reaction as you guys.

    I really thought the Lily/Marshall story was stupid, but told in a really good way. Marshall saying he liked working at GNB means that he's not the same Marshall? I really felt the line about Lily wanting the same guy she married just felt really jarring and out of place in an honest conversation about their relationship.

    However, I enjoyed most of the humor for the episode. Robin's stuffed line was good, loved the way they continued the Barney's dad story (this does feel like a story a father would be telling his kids), feel like they're building up the obvious Robin/Barney relationship in a more true way this time, rather than Barney pining for her and then them being unable to commit to being in a relationship, etc.

    November 9, 2010 at 12:11AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Tyler I think you're letting Lilly off the hook too easily, and so did Bays and Thomas. When she commented that she wanted Marshall to be the man that she fell in love with, I almost had to leave the room I was so mad. I can't imagine anything else she could have said at that point that would have been crueler.

      I was disappointed that Marshall not only forgave her instantly but that he was the one that had to come to her, like he'd done something wrong. It's moments like those that really bother me because all I can think is "Why in the world would Marshall love someone who treats him so terribly?". I lose respect for Marshall every time he lets that cruel, selfish woman walk all over him.

      November 9, 2010 at 3:15PM EST
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      SophieB210 Tyler, this so perfectly describes why I've become utterly disgusted with Lily and how the writers keep portraying her. Much more than the retcon of Barney and Robin's hasty break up and recovery I want to see Lily called on the carpet for her hurtful words and actions.

      November 10, 2010 at 7:00PM EST
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    Kaylee

    I knew we were in for a solid episode when we got references to sandwiches, Scooter, and name-dropped Van Smoot (the big, fancy house where Marshall and Lily got married) in the first few minutes. Easily the strongest episode since the season premiere -- no coincidence, I'm sure, that it's mythology-heavy and penned by Bays & Thomas.

    Also, anyone who doesn't think that the wedding where Ted meets the mother is Barney and Robin's after watching their delightful antics isn't paying enough attention.

    November 9, 2010 at 12:15AM EST Reply to Comment
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    rosengje

    I enjoyed parts of this episode, but parts really irritated me. Does anyone else find Lily completely insufferable lately? Why doesn't anyone ever bring up her crushing shopping addiction/debt anymore? Wasn't that the reason Marshall had to take the GNB job? The idea that Lily is the perfect one in the relationship that Marshall is constantly trying to live up to has irritated me since that episode about settling and reaching. I feel like Marshall has become the well-rounded, successful, interesting person in the couple while the writers still assume viewers will take Lily's side.

    November 9, 2010 at 12:32AM EST Reply to Comment
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      LJA I've *always* found Lily insufferable. I can't stand her, never could.

      November 9, 2010 at 12:41PM EST
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      Chrissy She's definitely always been my least favorite character (but then I'm one of those rare individuals who likes Ted). I do like some of her beats, though, particularly the jokes about her being a little attracted to Robin, and the college/goth stuff.

      November 9, 2010 at 2:39PM EST
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      Hurley The Marshall-and-Lily-giving-up-on-their-altruistic-dreams bit seems like at least an annual event. All of these character stories continue to spin wheels having little to do with the story Older Ted would be telling his kids. This is becoming the Lost of sitcoms. Almost to an irredeemable point of gimmicks and misleads rather than telling compelling story.

      November 9, 2010 at 4:24PM EST
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    Jesse

    I can't get past how much I dislike Zoey at this point. I feel like she's the female version of Don; the writers want me to care about this person, but I really just want her to go away.

    Otherwise a pretty solid episode. It's nice to see Ted leave the Ross Gellar Zone and Robin get back to being Robin.

    November 9, 2010 at 12:38AM EST Reply to Comment
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    OnlyMe

    I need to meet the mother.
    I still feel like we're being teased with Zoey and it's annoying. And it's really stupid teasing because we know she's not her. Not to mention, the character is utterly unlikeable and there's no chemistry between the actors. This feels like retread - we've been here before, I'm tired of it. If they're not going to cast the mother and get her on the screen soon, they need to seriously de-emphasize Ted's love life.

    Barney and Robin were great.

    November 9, 2010 at 12:46AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Nathan

    I was so happy to hear a reference to "The Last Dragon"

    "Who's the master, Leroy?"

    November 9, 2010 at 12:47AM EST Reply to Comment
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      sepinwall Oh, yes! And darn me for not linking to this clip in my review:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWVhiIisH30

      November 9, 2010 at 12:59AM EST
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      conrad my favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro_oVZLTbNg

      kiss my converse!!

      about a decade ago i went as sho'nuff for halloween. was so depressed that only 2 people got the reference.

      November 9, 2010 at 12:28PM EST
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      April Got it right away...and simply adored them for thinking of Leroy! The Last Dragon was my fav movie in the 7th grade. We must have gone to the Fine Arts theater here in St Louis three times to see it-and that's a lot considering we only got $4 allowance every week. Years later (about 12) I watched with hubby and realized it was bad...beyond belief. What were we all thinking? It was a smash hit! Guess my opinion has matured over the years, huh?

      November 9, 2010 at 11:36PM EST
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      Cutt33 I would bet that less than 5% of the people watching this episode got the reference to The Last Dragon. I had to DVR it back a couple of times because I was ROLLING!!!!

      November 10, 2010 at 9:46AM EST


  • Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but they've set up a pretty interesting Fountainhead dynamic with Ted, the modern Architect pushing toward the future, and Zoey, the rich wife trying to cut the architect down for her own personal reasons.

    The Captain was what made me think of it it, considering that the second most (arguably of course) important conversation in the book was the architect talking to the husband of the woman... on his yacht. I feel like I'd bet on a similar conversation happening in HIMYM. They were foreshadowing the yacht pretty hard.

    November 9, 2010 at 1:13AM EST Reply to Comment
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      jenfullmoon Wow, that was deep. Good call!

      November 9, 2010 at 1:51PM EST
    • I thought the exact same thing, while Ted is not exactly Howard Roark, and Zoey is no Dominique, as far as character depth. There are no two characters to my experience that had a better dynamic and setup than Howard and Dominique in The Fountainhead. So it would only make sense for Carter/Bays to try and emulate that when setting up the mother.

      That doesnt mean its working though.

      November 9, 2010 at 8:13PM EST
    • Myk — I agree. I think the closest correlation was actually The Captain and Wynand

      November 12, 2010 at 4:49PM EST
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    isaacl

    What really made the episode stand out for me is the reveal of Barney's dad, which was a nice surprise.

    Does anyone know if the episode was shot on location? The aerial shot of the hall with the dinosaur seemed unusual for a soundstage shot.

    November 9, 2010 at 1:25AM EST Reply to Comment
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      tr The hall with the dueling dinosaurs was filmed on location at the Natural History Museum in L.A. Not sure if the other rooms were shot on location or if they were shot on a soundstage.

      November 9, 2010 at 11:51AM EST
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    velocityknown

    I was so happy to receive this episode after last weeks Halloween dud. As the characters were bustling about the museum I realized how insanely close to classic HIMYM this episode was.

    If Bays and Carter can keep this up, we are in for a real treat the rest of the season. What a great way to reintroduce the "Barney's Father" subplot too, did not see that coming.

    Zoey is obviously not the mother, but I can appreciate their chemistry and am confident Ted knowing her will lead him somewhere close to meeting the mother.

    Also happy they're giving Bob Odenkirk more to do.

    (July 2011, July 2011, July 2011)

    Sorry had to get that out of my system, any room for a Bryan Cranston role reprisal as Ted's former boss?

    November 9, 2010 at 1:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Found

    Wow, everybody hates Zoey. Not me. I'd be happy if she turns out to be the mother. Of course at this point, Betty White would be fine.

    November 9, 2010 at 1:52AM EST Reply to Comment
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      JJ I'm a bit surprised too. I think the Zoey scenes with Ted have been dynamite, and they play their mutual tension/attraction well.

      November 10, 2010 at 6:50AM EST
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    William

    Not understanding why Ted is so sympathetic towards Zoey - the woman is a hypocrite like no other and totally unlikable. I didn't really see why Lily was so anti-GNB, Marshall had to work there because of her after all. Not a huge upgrade over the prior episodes; I guess the callbacks to earlier seasons were nice and the Barney and Robin stuff was enjoyable.

    November 9, 2010 at 2:23AM EST Reply to Comment
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      jenfullmoon The only logic I can figure to it is that if Ted wasn't getting to design his own building, he'd be campaigning to save it right along with Zoey.

      Though this whole thing has made me wonder: maybe GNB could get another site to build on? (Not realistically, but it could be a point to make.)

      November 9, 2010 at 1:52PM EST
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      Ariadne I don't see that Zoey is a hypocrite. She's someone who believes in causes, like saving historic buildings, and goes after them in a crazy way. If anyone is a hyposcrite, it's Ted, who lectures about the importance of keeping old buildings and is willing to keep the old facade if it gets Zoey into his bed and throws it out when he finds she's married.

      Both Ted and Marshall sold out their ideas for GNB money.

      The Barney|Robin stuff was fun and a good counterpoint to the others.

      November 9, 2010 at 11:50PM EST
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