Review: 'Game of Thrones' - 'The Pointy End': Family feud

George R.R. Martin scripts an episode setting up pieces for the closing chapters

'Game of Thrones' - 'The Pointy End': Family feud

Khal Drogo (Jason Momoa) in "Game of Thrones."

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A review of tonight's George R.R. Martin-scripted "Game of Thrones" coming up just as soon as I die with a song in my heart...

"I hope the wall's high enough." -Sam

Whether it was his choice or Benioff and Weiss', Martin didn't get the easiest draw when he wound up having to dramatize the events depicted in "The Pointy End." It's by far the busiest episode of the series to date, dramatizing Cersei's consolidation of power, the start of open warfare between the Starks and Lannisters, and the growing threats from the north and west that might actually bring the feuding houses of Westeros together if they could stop worrying about power and insults real and imagined long enough to realize how badly they need to fight together.

And yet "The Pointy End" isn't content to just be an hour of moving pieces around the chess board to set things up for the season's final two episodes. There's a lot of that, yes, but also some crackling dialogue, a few good character moments and some of the best action the show has featured to date.

Let's start with the action, in fact.

Assuming he actually fell to his better-armed foe after Arya left the room, Syrio Forel had about as good a fictional death as I've seen in a while, especially given what a relatively minor character he was within the grand scheme of things.  Taking on multiple soldiers at once with nothing but a wooden practice sword? That's some high-order badassery(*), and I can only hope Arya absorbed his lessons well now that she's on her own in very hostile territory and nothing but Needle to keep herself alive.

(*) Though the staging of the scene did suggest that Syrio could have at least tried to pick up a real sword from one of his fallen opponents.

And yet Syrio's toughness got one-upped by Khal Drogo, who did without weapons altogether (or, at least, without his own weapons) in killing his insubordinate pal Mago. Obviously, Jason Momoa is an incredibly physical specimen, so it's less startling that he'd be able to do that than to see little Syrio do what he did, but still... that was very impressive, while at the same time being yet another sign of the influence Dany is having on her husband. She may have had to drag him towards the level of respect he has for her now, but by god he has it, and if that means keeping his men from raping their latest conquests because the Khaleesi doesn't want it, then that's just what the Khal is going to do. A number of you seemed troubled last week by how untroubled Dany was with the portion of Drogo's speech about raping the women of Westeros, but here she gets a first-hand look at what the Dothraki army in action looks like - and the carnage that will occur if she wants to get back to the Iron Throne - and she clearly doesn't like all that she sees. In this one instance, she's able to change what the Khal usually does, but I imagine she's going to have to compromise some principles to stay on this path.

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Sandwiched in between those two splendid (if brief) fight scenes was Jon Snow doing a bit of zombie-killin' up at Castle Black. Even though I don't know much about the White Walkers, I suspected the dead soldiers were going to rise. Still, that was an effective little blend of horror and action, and I loved that ominous pan up the Wall as Sam and the other soldiers contemplated just how much trouble they could be in.

And, again, that's the cruel irony of this season. Everyone's playing their deadly little Game of Thrones, assuming that winter - much less the white walkers - won't be returning anytime soon. And nobody other than Varys seems to consider the Dothraki any kind of imminent threat. (Even Robert, before he died, just assumed Dany's baby would cause him trouble many years down the line.) They're all feuding over territory and reputation and other things that are going to matter very little when an army of relentless savages attacks from one border and an army of zombies comes from another. So there's this wonderful tension layered on top of a bunch of already tense scenes. You see Ned fearing for his life in the dungeon, or Cersei demonstrating her power by forcing Barristan into retirement so Jaime can have his job, or Robb struggling to keep his new coalition in line, and you just want to shake all these people and tell them to wake up before it's too late and the only ones still standing to vie for control of Westeros are the White Walkers and the Dothraki.

There seems an awful lot to deal with in these final two episodes, but knowing that there are more books, and at least one more season, I imagine a whole lot of events and lives will still be up in the air by the time we get to the finale in two weeks.

Some other thoughts:

• After being absent last week, Tyrion Lannister makes a welcome return, being charming and amusing as always. But we know by now how well Peter Dinklage can play that side of the imp. What was most impressive was seeing Tyrion talk to his father, the one person in the world who seems to make him feel self-conscious and afraid. I also really enjoy the dynamic between Tyrion and Bronn, and got a big laugh out of Bronn puncturing all the "son of" silliness by telling Tywin, "You wouldn't know him."

• Though Sansa is a spoiled brat, I couldn't help but feel for her here, with her loyalties so torn between the father she loves and the boy-king she's convinced is her soulmate. And I also like that while Joffrey remains a petulant punk and his mother's puppet, he's genuinely hurt by the suggestion that he's not really Robert's son, and is using that as the basis for how he'll choose Ned's fate.

• Lord, every scene with Catelyn's nephew Robin is so, so creepy. And when Tyrion suggested that he'd give the Vale to Shagga's people, all I could think was that it serves Lysa right for refusing to help her sister.

• Ah, so that's what the youngest Stark child looks like! And he even speaks!

• After all the discussion last week about how gratuitous the scene with Roz and Littlefinger was, I don't imagine anyone's going to view our glimpse of a naked Hodor as something balancing the scales.

That's it for this week. I'm going to try to stick to this publishing schedule for the season's final weeks, which I guess will give the West Coast readership first commenting dibs for a change, but there's a chance that one or both of the final two reviews will wind up being posted the morning after.

And let me remind you, once again, that we are here to discuss the show AS A TV SHOW, and not just as an endless series of compare/contrasts with the books. If you want to bring up events from the books that have already been depicted on the show, that's fine to a degree, but anything - plot, backstory, motivation, what have you - that has yet to be revealed on the show itself is absolutely off-limits. Any comment containing anything I find even remotely questionable will be deleted. Period.

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    DIzzel

    I nominate Hodor's penis for an Emmy.

    June 6, 2011 at 1:51AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Truck Or at least best special effects? I happened to get a close look on the HD rerun and it looked like it was definitely CGI.

      June 6, 2011 at 12:51PM EST
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      Trizzel That comment is hilariously creepy.

      June 7, 2011 at 2:29PM EST
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    theholyavenger

    I think its more a matter of style. Syrio is probably not as well off using a broadsword as he is with a short sword. Also, it was a minor irritation last week but it really annoyed me tonight. Ghost does not bark. Ever. He is silent. That's why he's called Ghost.

    June 6, 2011 at 2:02AM EST Reply to Comment
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      AP Dogs aren't the best actors.

      June 6, 2011 at 2:14AM EST
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      mely Yeah, that really bugged me about Ghost too. Maybe they couldn't have got the dog to stay silent while they were shooting, but surely that was something that could have been fixed later?

      June 6, 2011 at 5:21AM EST
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      rictusgrin I guess this is something from the book. But in a TV show a dog barking signals danger and is dramatic. In the TV show Ghost is white. I guess in the TV show that is why he is called Ghost. This is an adaptation. Different medium, different ways of telling the story. Stop being a bore and get over it.

      June 6, 2011 at 7:11AM EST
    • Do you guys know what traits are? They're these things that define a character. For example, Ned is honorable, Tyrion is clever, Sansa is naive, etc. Now if Ned suddenly decided to betray his family, buy some whores, and kill a few children you would probably have a problem with that. Ghost is albino, the runt of the litter and is silent. Those are what makes him different from the other direwolves and they changed it. It doesn't really seem like something that's hard to do. If you're training a dog to do all these other actions, not barking seems attainable. If not, fix it in post production like Mely said. It's not like I said the show sucks or anything of that nature. I enjoy it and I think it suffers from a few problems. One of those is the downplaying of the direwolves in general. In the book they are a huge presence that you're almost constantly aware of, but in the show we've only seen them 4 or 5 times. Maybe it's training or budget or a myriad of reasons but changing something major thats already been reduced is a slight irritation.

      June 6, 2011 at 9:18AM EST
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      Shadowlands Consider Martin wrote this episode, it doesn't appear to have bothered him, so why does it bother you so much?

      June 6, 2011 at 10:10AM EST
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      jv Im pretty sure he was called ghost because he is an albino, im dont recall them ever saying he doesnt bark in the books. Am i wrong?

      June 6, 2011 at 10:18AM EST
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      LJA In the show, we've never been told Ghost is silent, so nothing is changed in the context of the show, and the story isn't lessened for me knowing he's silent in the book.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:56AM EST
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      Chrissy I get that details like this are important to some lovers of the book, but, honestly, ghosts aren't even really that silent. They shake their chains and wail, right? So it makes more sense to a viewer that he's called ghost because he's white, and to have him bark to call attention to things that are upsetting him. For him to silently paw at the door would just seem odd, and it would probably require some awkward expository dialogue to remind viewers that he's not supposed to make noise.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:16PM EST
    • Random Night Watchman-"What's with your wolf? He didn't even make a sound during the attack."
      Jon-"He never does." Look at that, 30 seconds of dialogue to explain. I never said it ruins the show or anything like that. It just irritates me.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:43PM EST
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      rex kramer And quite honestly, the people putting the show together at HBO are better at editing Martin's overwrought plot contrivances.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:44PM EST
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      The Harpo Marxist Yeah, as someone who loves the books and loves Ghost being silent in the books I am totally onboard with Ghost barking in the show.

      I think, given the reduced role of the direwolves in general, a television audience needs sound from Ghost. We need the freakout, and we need the shorthand that barking allows.

      TV is a different medium than the books. People need to accept that certain things that read well in books aren't going to translate. (Pure all white armor on the Kingsguard would be a huge pain to shoot, for example.)

      June 6, 2011 at 4:58PM EST
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      webdiva Ghost barking must be something that bothers all the book readers, 'cause it's a teensy-tiny thing that didn't faze me a bit (and I haven't read the books). Ghost's bark served an important purpose: it woke Jon and clued him to a problem. Good wolfy!!

      June 6, 2011 at 11:20PM EST
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      witless chum Don't lump me as a book reader in with this pack of raving, naked Hodors. I'm just waching the show more for 'hmm, that's how they did that.' Nothing it can do will infuriate me, because the books can't be affected by the show.

      June 7, 2011 at 2:47PM EST
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      Jason Potapoff What part of "we are here to discuss the show AS A TV SHOW" wasn't clear? Can we stop talking about the book, comparing the show to the book, complaining about differences from the book?

      June 18, 2011 at 11:48PM EST
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      K4 Catching up to the show months later, I read all this talk about Ghost not barking in the books vs. barking in the show, and I just want to add one simple, decisive thing: it's not that Ghost doesn't bark (I don't even know, I didn't read the books); it's that WOLVES DON'T BARK. They just don't. They're not dogs. Only dogs bark. It's appalling nobody apparently knew that from the show and these comments.

      December 25, 2011 at 1:21PM EST
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    LJA

    Seriously, the perverse interplay between Robin and Lyssa creeps me out more than any of the violence on this show.

    June 6, 2011 at 2:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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      belinda I know. It is by far the most disturbing thing on this show - seeing that 8 year old or so boy try to untie his mother's top because he's hungry - even amidst all the violent deaths and supernatural zombies.

      I also agree with Jack below. Is there a particular reason why it's only 10 episodes when it seems clear there's more than enough material for a proper 12-13 episode cable season? I thought the episode was great and jampacked, but it also felt really condensed, like there's not even a few seconds to spare to just watch each character and how their reaction and realization over their predicaments sink in.

      If the reason is simply cost, then I really hope this season does well enough with subscribers and dvd sales and buzz so HBO could give it 12 or 13 eps for future seasons. It would be so worth it.

      June 6, 2011 at 6:40AM EST
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      Jim Belinda:
      I agree re 13 eps vs 10. I think it's almost going to become a necessity for the future books. The next book is longer and the third book is huge (it's actually longer than ALL of Lord of the Rings). In fact, as I was reading it, I almost wondered if the third book will end up being two seasons as it is so long and there is so much going on.

      June 6, 2011 at 8:55AM EST
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      Chrissy Yes, Lysa and Robin are ooky. In fact, I was more creeped out here than in earlier episodes, because she obviously has a bit more presence of mind than I'd thought; she's able to strategize and consider her and her son's safety. When I thought she was totally nutbar, it was just tragic; now that I know she's got some of her faculties, it's really unpleasant.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:19PM EST
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      webdiva Absolutely Ewwwwww-inducing. Lysa was somewhat more lucid here, but completely creepy anyway: a visual definition of high-functioning madness. And her son is already severely neurotic, on the way to being no less a narcissistic megalomaniac than icky Joffrey. Emphasis on the maniac.

      June 6, 2011 at 11:27PM EST
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    Jack G

    why are there only 10 episodes in the series? they did this for treme last year as well. Is it from the network season programming or a show choice?

    On this episode, it's my guess that Arya will be chased by some bandits or lannister thugs into the woods as she try to escape the capital. she tries to fight them off and fails. Then her direwolf turns back up. It is also my guess that it will be F**king awesome.

    June 6, 2011 at 2:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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      DougMac I was thinking this should have been 12 or 13 episodes too

      June 6, 2011 at 4:38AM EST
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      MBG It's gotta cost a king's ransom to produce an episode of this bad boy. Your HBO dollars at work!

      My take is Syrio dispatched the goons (that was their screams we heard while he cut 'em apart) and that he's on the lam lam with Ayra. At least, I hope so!

      June 6, 2011 at 8:23AM EST
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      xbrooklyngrrl Irony: The Killing, which is stretched thin, and is unengaging and just plain poorly done, is running the full 13, while this series is only 10. Just doesn't seem right.

      I was also annoyed that Syrio preferred showboating and humiliating the men and didn't pick up a real sword and take them out. Instead, he leaves a group of dazed, but living men who, if he lives, will surely be on a vendetta to kill. Made no sense to me, tho it kind of fits in with the people who think (or excuse) behavior that's supposed to be honorable (Ned refusing to take the offered 100 men with swords while Robert was dying) and instead, in their naivete or hubris, will unleash conflicts that will take many lives.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:49AM EST
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      DB Cooper Hired goons don't get to have vendettas.

      June 6, 2011 at 11:23AM EST
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      MBG Nor do dead goons -- again, my theory is Syrio *did* pick up a real sword & cut 'em up. And can we leave The Killing bashing to that blog, please? Thank you.

      DBC, good 2CU alive & well!

      June 6, 2011 at 12:14PM EST
    • As I said above, I think Syrio is more of a fencer/short sword user. He isn't a knight, so how do we know he can use a broadsword with the same skill as the wooden practice sword?

      June 6, 2011 at 1:06PM EST
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      xbrooklyngrrl @ DB, respectfully beg to differ, the hired goons are Lannister soldiers, and there is a huge amount of ego and death in this society, and to knock a man down with a wooden sword, and not expect him to come after you is naive, in the same way Ned can be naive as to how men respond and behave.

      @MBG a bit cranky,, are we? It's an apt comparison and complaint.

      June 6, 2011 at 2:19PM EST
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      Chrissy It's hard to always foresee the consequences of your actions. My guess is that he's better off not killing a bunch of goons who are just following orders and don't really care one way or the other about him than to kill them and risk being vendettaed by their people for murder. Honestly, if everyone who got knocked unconscious or injured in this world started a vendetta, there'd be no time to do anything else. I also think Syrio was more comfortable working with the wooden sword and, perhaps, didn't want Arya to witness a blood bath if she didn't absolutely have to.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:26PM EST
    • "why are there only 10 episodes in the series? they did this for treme last year as well. Is it from the network season programming or a show choice?"

      A show choice, I suspect. GoT was always going to be enormously expensive and complex, and I rather doubt HBO was going to put a penny more than the rumoured $50-60 million already spent into a 13 episode season. Whatever else you say about GoT (and I think it's a deeply if interestingly flawed effort), I will be very surprised if the cinematographers, production and costume designers don't walk away with some serious Emmy love.

      June 6, 2011 at 5:28PM EST
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      kkll Regarding Syrio's fight.. have you seen the size of him? broadswords Lannister guards use are as tall as he is, also he has to hold his guard the entire time because there's no way that kingsguard member would let him pick it up

      June 7, 2011 at 2:48PM EST
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      witless chum The head dude who went to get Arya was in the episode later, in the scene where Barristan gets sacked and notes that he can cut through all of the Kingsguard even now, so you know Syrio didn't kill him.

      June 7, 2011 at 2:52PM EST
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      Michael Syrio fights in the Bravosi style using a thin fencing like blade which is why he was chosen to teach Arya. While he might have been able to pick up one of the large broadswords, he would have had to sacrifice his main advantages which are speed and accuracy. All he had to do was crush a few throats and shatter an elbow or two in order to make it a one on one fight and buy himself a chance against the knight of the Kingsguard and, more importantly I think, he was able to buy Arya a bit of time to get away.

      June 7, 2011 at 5:13PM EST
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      Ryan S There were several mediums that went into making this season only 10 episodes (scheduling, time constraints and funding). This particular episode is the only one that felt truly smashed together from start to finish. In some parts of the books, that's not such a bad thing, but at this point it's difficult for people watching to understand how much time is passing between scenes. We see Cat and Lysa and then a few minutes later she's with Robb at the Neck. That's at least a week or more, but feels no more than days or even hours to you and I. From what HBO has said and what Martin himself has revealed, the forthcoming season will have at least 12, and considering how much new characters will need to be fleshed out, I'd hope for at least 13 or more in the following seasons.

      June 7, 2011 at 8:00PM EST
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      Ryan S It's also important to note that many many weeks pass between the start of this episode and the end of it. From the moment the Stark household guard is butchered in KL, Robb: Recieves a letter from King's landing regarding Ned's treason and capture, calls the banners, entertains his bannerman and marches half way to kings landing to the Neck. That's at the absolute least a month of Ned rotting in a dungeon and Arya on her own. This is important to understand and isn't made very clear.

      June 7, 2011 at 8:05PM EST
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    WaltEagle

    Alan, with your Treme review from tonight fresh in my mind while I was watching Game of Thrones, I couldn't help but think of your comment about Davis struggling with the idea of relationship=compromise when I was watching Khal Drogo slowly agree to let that woman nurse his wounds after moments earlier making an exception in a never-questioned policy among his people. That's probably the last time anyone will compare Davis McAlary and Khal Drogo.

    June 6, 2011 at 2:30AM EST Reply to Comment
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      webdiva And I can't help but think that that particular concession on Drogo's part will yet backfire. it's too much to hope that Dany's kindness with no consequences will hold. Can't see one of the conquered, even if rescued from rape, not taking the opportunity to punish the guy responsible for the attack. I'll bet she drugs him or poisons him somehow.

      June 7, 2011 at 12:35AM EST
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    Graham

    Full credit to both Lena Heady and Jack Gleeson for skilfully portraying two of the most easily hateable characters on TV. Between Cersei's superior smirk and Joffrey's cold, inbred eyes, I don't think I've ever wanted to see two characters get what's coming to them in quite the same way.

    June 6, 2011 at 2:50AM EST Reply to Comment
    • I'm probably going to get spat on for saying this, but I feel just a grain of sympathy for Cersei. Do you really think she's ever know a moment of genuine affection or kindness?

      June 6, 2011 at 5:33PM EST
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      mettle My wife and I laugh every time Cersei pops on the screen with that same pained/constipated/disconcerted look on her face.
      She had one emotion: bothered.

      June 7, 2011 at 12:29AM EST
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      witless chum She's had plenty of affection and kindness from her brother. Hey-ooooo.

      June 7, 2011 at 2:53PM EST
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    Aman

    The Narrow Sea is east of Westeros.

    June 6, 2011 at 3:24AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Alex

    Alan-the little freak lord's name is Robert. He is named after the former King, with whom he shares an obvious courage and a fondness for doing something with female breasts.

    The episode began and closed on the idea of mercy and upended it. Mercy is what Ned gave Cersei and we know how that turned out--there is a vital part implied by Varys but spelled out in the book that I won't mention. Suffice to say, King Robert had more than that boar to deal with. But anyway, Ned's mercy, duty and honor got him in jail. At the end, Joffrey grants Ned mercy if he will honor him, thus breaking his own honor. And we probably know how that will turn out.

    So pretty much loyalty, duty, honor, family and real family vs. adopted family--like Jon in the Night's Watch and Samsa's future relatives-- and betrayal are the themes here. Notice the delicious irony of all of the real traitors being horrified at Samsa's father and telling her he's the oath breaker.

    I would have liked to see more of the strategic intelligence and badassery of Lady Catelyn, Warrior Princess (which was in the section of the book dramatized tonight, so I'm not spoiling anything), but those are there in all their glory in the novels.

    The show finally payed off dividends changing Dany's wedding night. Now we why she protected those women. And in this world, women are chattel unless they usurp their victimhood into power, or they are part of the war council--if they happen to be born aristocracy. So, not much freedom and choice and will and opportunity here.

    June 6, 2011 at 3:42AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Alex Dang no edit button. There is an invisible "know" somewhere in that last paragraph. See if you can find it! My own unbending honor making proper sentences compels me to point this out.

      June 6, 2011 at 3:47AM EST
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      Chris Alex, the kid's name is Robin for this adaptation. Changed to remove complications of having multiple characters with the same name. Stupid, but it is what it is.

      June 6, 2011 at 3:55AM EST
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      Bob Robert Arryn's nickname throughout the books is "Sweetrobin". So it's not exactly "changed" or "stupid".

      It's not like they changed the names of Jon Arryn or Jon Snow for "complications of multiple characters with the same name", after all.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:17AM EST
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      webdiva Robin is a known Anglo-Saxon nickname for Robert, as in Robert Locksley = Robin Hood, etc.

      June 7, 2011 at 12:39AM EST
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    bearcouch

    I hope Syrio isn't dead. :(

    June 6, 2011 at 3:42AM EST Reply to Comment
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      EJ he is

      June 6, 2011 at 4:36AM EST
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      FG We don't know if he lives or not even in the books, but you can see the Kingsguard he fought against in the following scene at court..

      June 6, 2011 at 6:05AM EST
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      belinda According to what Varys told Ned, other than Sansa and the missing Arya, everyone in the Stark household was slaughtered. So I think that includes poor Syrio.

      June 6, 2011 at 6:43AM EST
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      belinda *everyone in the Stark household in King's Landing, I mean. Obviously the other Starks are still around, as we saw in the ep. :D

      June 6, 2011 at 6:44AM EST
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      John Doe Dag nabbit, I was hoping Syrio wasn't dead either, but I just realized after reading FG's comment that the Kingsguard that came for Arya is standing at the fore when Joff is holding audience. I just remembered that because it seemed weird that he was in front instead of Sir Barristan. If Syrio is alive, surely that Kingsguard can't be?

      June 7, 2011 at 1:01AM EST
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      Fran Syrio could've just knocked the knight unconscious, like he did with some of the others. There's also the sound of a sword clattering on the ground that makes Arya turn around as she's descending the stairs, so I still hold out hope. Varys said what he said, but I seriously doubt that the knight thinks Syrio is important enough to mention getting away, particularly if it would require an explanation.

      And yes, I freely admit I may be fanwanking.

      June 7, 2011 at 7:54PM EST
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    Jon Arryn

    Just pointing out that it's the "Vale of Arryn". Glad you're enjoying the show! From a reader, I love reading your reactions.

    June 6, 2011 at 4:02AM EST Reply to Comment
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    e.

    not sure if I can say this, but the Hodor scene is from the books

    June 6, 2011 at 4:43AM EST Reply to Comment
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    eriklk

    I found this episode a bit of a let down after last week's excitement and the all-round excellence of episode 5. It covered too much action, and didn't really manage to make any of the strands engaging. I think they might have kept too much plot for the end of the season, resulting in a slow and sometimes boring exposition and a potentially rushed dénouement - at least if this episode is indicative of how the end will play out.

    I was disappointed with the scene where Arya stabs the boy. Couldn't they find a better actor for that part? The editing of that scene was also laughably bad. It ought to be quite a big moment, a small girl having to kill somebody, but here it felt more like an accident, as the boy really didn't seem too menacing.

    Actually, I thought the battle scenes in general were cheap-looking and unengaging. The zombie that Jon killed didn't seem very frightening at all, either, and the massacre in King's Landing wasn't very exciting. I did like the scene with Syrio, obviously.

    I just finished the first book this week, and it was kind of strange how much they held back on the sex in the Dothraki pillage. In general, there's a lot more sex in the show than in the book, but not in this scene. I'd rather have had the sex(ual violence) here than the gratuitous and poorly acted Littlefinger-scene last week.

    I do think that on the balance the show is probably better than the book, but it's still not consistently reaching the heights it should, and that annoys me a bit.

    June 6, 2011 at 5:00AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Anon The SHOW, better than the BOOK? That's probably the first time I've ever heard that one.

      I love both, and think the show is generally a skillful adaptation, but the books will always win out due to it's richness and detail.

      June 6, 2011 at 6:18AM EST
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      MattyBoy Agree with Anon, SHOW better than the BOOK?

      That said, I also agree that most of the action in this episode was dull (with the obvious exception of Syrio vs. the Kingsguard knight). The direwolves have been a disappointment all season, and Grey Wind "attacking" the Greatjon was no exception.

      I thought the scene where Arya stabbed the stableboy was actually pretty well done, though. I didn't feel like he was supposed to be menacing, just a boy who tends the horses and thinks he can earn some favor by stopping one of the Stark girls from fleeing. He gets surprised by the sword, and I think Arya was surprised by him too. She's what, 9 years old? I think it would be out of character for a 9 year old to kill anybody that quickly and ruthlessly, so making it appear somewhat accidental seems plausible to me.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:33AM EST
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      eriklk My gripes with the (first) book:

      - It's way too long for the story it tells
      - Several (POV-)characters are underwritten and more or less devoid of personalities
      - There is not enough trust in the reader to figure the plot out, resulting in horrible handholding, e.g. characters explaining their motives and plans to each other even though the other part already knows
      - The use of inner monologues and limited point of view is not very good
      - Too many (badly written) dream scenes
      - Too much bad (=flowery) writing in general

      It's still an entertaining book and several of the characters and plots are quite engaging. But the show does away with the conceit of the different POV-characters, making for a much better storytelling flow and more elegant exposition, it does away with a lot of the information overload, and, simply by virtue of the medium, shows more and tells less.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:47AM EST
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      Chrissy I agree with Matt that the killing of the stable boy was partly an accident. She struck out in fear, but her intention wasn't to kill him, exactly. It was just to make sure he didn't kill her. I think it's supposed to be a bit tragic, that Arya killed him, as they are both children. If he'd been really scary, it would have seemed more necessary and less sad.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:38PM EST
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      MerckZ I agree with you on the editing of that scene - it seemed almost amateur in its execution. That said, I found the rest of the episode to be fantastic.

      June 6, 2011 at 9:01PM EST
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    Mark Vita

    That little shit Joffrey looked ridiculous with that crown on his head.

    June 6, 2011 at 6:18AM EST Reply to Comment
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      MBG His nickname, oddly, was Dubya.

      June 7, 2011 at 11:00AM EST
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    MW

    "And I also like that while Joffrey remains a petulant punk and his mother's puppet, he's genuinely hurt by the suggestion that he's not really Robert's son, and is using that as the basis for how he'll choose Ned's fate."

    Does Joffrey know this yet? I don't think he's been told this yet? Ned didn't say it aloud at the confrontation scene at the end last week.

    June 6, 2011 at 6:34AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Omagus Ned said that Joffrey has no claim to the throne. I'm sure Joffrey is able to put two and two together.

      June 6, 2011 at 8:22AM EST
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      Judd I was thinking the same as the OP. I would think that someone in that room when Ned challenged Joffrey's right to be king would think Ned was referring to the letter he had from the king making Ned the stand-in until Joffrey was of age.

      I think Joffrey would see Ned's words as just a challenge and not necessarily figuring out that his uncle is actually his father. Plus, I would think theer would be some scene with Joffrey dealing with that news if it were to happen.

      Interesting to see if anything unfolds from that in the last episodes.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:50AM EST
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      xbrooklyngrrl Joffrey doesn't strike me as being the sharpest tool in the box, he looks like he's still trying to piece that together, he could also think it's because of the way he got the power, or because Ned has been so demonized by everyone around him. I don't think he'd be too happy to realize who his father is.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:53AM EST
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      Chrissy I think saying he has no right to the throne has to imply more than that Joffrey needs to wait a couple of years. However, Joffrey probably thinks Ned is accusing his mother of standard-issue infidelity, and assumes he is grasping at straws to keep the throne for himself. I doubt he has any idea that his uncle is his father.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:42PM EST
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    mvita

    Another great episode. Liked seeing Robb finally getting something significant to do, and showing some fortitude by bucking the conventional wisdom of his elders. It was also great having Tyrion back this week, talking himself out of yet another tight spot. And the zombie scene in the Nightwatch commander's quarters: awesome.

    Varys was interesting this week, visiting Ned in the dungeon, and also chirping up to bolster Sansa's plea for mercy for Ned. It sure seems like there's an angle there he's trying to play. Also, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ser Barristan end up helping Ned out (maybe busting him out of the joint?). It was obvious from their earlier scenes together that there is a lot of mutual respect there, and Barristan sure was uber-pissed at being put out to pasture by the Lannisters.

    June 6, 2011 at 6:50AM EST Reply to Comment
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      ed newman I thought this was the best episode of the season. The Drogo and Syrio fight scenes were outstanding. A slew of characters had great moments including Sansa, Varys, Cercei, Ser Barristan, the wilding slave woman, Tyrion, Greyjoy, and especially Robb. Maybe there is a true leader in the Stark family after all.

      June 6, 2011 at 8:38AM EST
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    John

    I loved when Rob tells the spy to go back to Tywin and tell him Winter is Coming!

    June 6, 2011 at 7:39AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Tim me too, that shoulda been alans quote for the episode

      i thought Rob really stepped up and was great in this episode after being relatively quiet up till now

      June 6, 2011 at 8:18AM EST
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      Damien I agree with Tim. Throughout an incredibly busy episode, the character that stuck with me the most as having made the greatest impression in this episode was Robb Stark. They really unleashed his character in this episode and I turned off the TV saying "Robb really grew some serious balls this week"...

      Loved Tyrion's comment to his father about Robb. Tywin can't wait to crush this young boy, and Tyrion basically says (reading between the lines), "he's just like you, you'd like him"...

      June 6, 2011 at 12:28PM EST
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      Chrissy With all the emphasis on lineage, it makes sense that these characters would take on some of their parent's characteristics. It seems like Robb has some of Ned's general decency, and desire to stay out of trouble when that's an option. But he is also able to think ahead, a bit, in a way that Ned doesn't seem really capable of. For instance, Robb knew immediately that going to King's Landing was death. I think Ned would have gone, even if only to refuse to pledge his fealty.

      I'm sure that's too simplistic, but it struck me. Also, Robb is not bad to look at. More Robb, please.

      June 6, 2011 at 4:46PM EST
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      pkdof I absolutely loved Robb in this episode, the way he rose to the occasion - he's definitely got his father's missing leadership qualities.

      June 6, 2011 at 6:20PM EST
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      John Doe Am I crazy, or did Robb let the spy go because he over-estimated the Stark numbers? Robb asked him how far he got, and he said 20,000, implying he wasn't even done counting. I know it's not a lot more than the 18,000 Robb told his mother he had, but it's still an over-estimation. Plus, right before that he and his lords were debating whether to meet Tywin or relieve the river lords from Jamie (or the other way around, I'm not so sure).

      So the spy goes and tells poppa Lannister than Robb has a huge army and is coming right for him... and then Robb takes his puny army and goes for Jamie instead. No?

      June 7, 2011 at 1:09AM EST
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      Alex H. John Doe: No, that's how I read the scene too. My guess is that, apart from the overestimation thing, maybe Robb actually plans to strike somewhere else (King's Landing?). Kinda like how Catelyn misdirected the Lannisters after arresting Tyrion.

      June 7, 2011 at 2:56AM EST
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      John Doe @Alex H.: If only Ned were around to learn the art of misdirection from Robb and Cat. He might not be stuck in a dungeon then!

      June 7, 2011 at 2:17PM EST
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    digamma

    Big screen battles don't do much for me but I love seeing a fight among a few good actors that's well choreographed and shot. If they gave out an Emmy for fight choreography this episode would win in a landslide. I was enjoying Syrio's performance, but Khal's was just pure ballet.

    June 6, 2011 at 7:47AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Karyn

    As a person who was not overly fond of the books (at least not with the fervor that many seem to have) this show is really, really gripping. They've removed the chaff and cut right to the heart of the story and I can't wait to watch it every week. Each episode seems to get better.

    And Robb is certainly much more charismatic and badass than he is in the books. Team Robb all the way.

    June 6, 2011 at 8:07AM EST Reply to Comment
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    MBG

    I literally screamed in the middle of this one, which was as good as any single episode of any TV show, anytime, anywhere. Phenomenal on every level.

    June 6, 2011 at 8:12AM EST Reply to Comment
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    the old proofreader

    Vy? Oy. Really, no need to post in such a rush. Your analysis is worth waiting for.

    June 6, 2011 at 8:23AM EST Reply to Comment
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      the old proofreader And Vale.

      June 6, 2011 at 8:28AM EST
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    pete

    no doctor who review?

    June 6, 2011 at 9:27AM EST Reply to Comment
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      nic919 He said on twitter that he would be skipping this week's episode. I think part of it has to do with the UK episode for the mid series finale having already aired and so the comments would risk having spoilers.

      June 6, 2011 at 9:59AM EST
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    CJ

    There was a lot packed into this episode, but I thought it still somehow managed to avoid getting bogged down. It was tense from start to finish and never let up. When it ended I couldn't believe an hour had already passed.

    There were so many incredible character moments in this episode. As other commenters have mentioned, just about everyone got some great material to work with. And badassery was dripping from every storyline. Drogo's and Syrio's were obvious, but Robb got some great scenes and I thought Barristan's scene was outstanding too.

    The show continues to do an incredible job of balancing all the storyline and weaving them together in a way that shows how they affect one another. It's sad that there are only two more episodes.

    June 6, 2011 at 9:32AM EST Reply to Comment
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    brian

    Alan, any idea how well the series is doing? I would hate for it to be cancelled after season 2. There is so much more story to tell.

    June 6, 2011 at 9:33AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Shadowlands Entertainment Weekly posted its ratings over the weekend: it hovers around 2.5 million, but raises to 3.3 million with repeat viewings. Not stellar, but more than enough to merit its second season pick-up. Here's hoping it turns into a True Blood situation and individuals discover the show on DVD between seasons and there's a big performance spike when Season 2 begins.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:22AM EST
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      Ryan The 3.3 million viewers includes only those who watch the show on Sunday during its two airings, as estimated by Nielsen. For other repeats/DVR/On Demand viewings, Entertainment Weekly reported just over 8 million viewers, on average, per episode. EW hasn't updated this number, though, in 3 weeks or so.

      June 6, 2011 at 11:09AM EST
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      Bensquared It has raised steadily with every week. This week was a 2.7, up from a 2.4 last week.

      June 8, 2011 at 3:13AM EST
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    bearcouch

    How badass was Selmy? For an old dude he's tough as hell. I mean he's not even that old, only 60 something in RL.

    Also I don't think I can wait however many years it is for the show to be over to read the books.

    June 6, 2011 at 9:48AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Bill

    Loved this episode, things are really heating up! My only gripe is that we know they aren't going to get rid of Sean Bean so the tension around Ned's predicament is lessened, but that's a problem with big name tv stars in general. It will be interesting to see how they sneak him out since I don't see that character ever admitting Joffery is the rightful heir.

    June 6, 2011 at 9:53AM EST Reply to Comment
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      TheNext Ice-T I agree 100%.
      -The actor/actress always gives me a sense of his/her overall role (and his/her character's survivability) which I find unavoidably distracting.
      -It makes sense that Sean Bean would be the "enduring hero" throughout the length of any series to which he is attached. Emotionally, I am less worried for "Ned" than they (the producers) would want me to be, if there was some lesser-profile actor in that roll.
      - This, however, could be a head-fake. I end up being doubly surprised (and impressed) when my sense of such things is wrong. I'm trying to think of a movie where this happens, where they bill a number of actors as having equal-ish rolls only to have one of them killed very early on. That's impressive and good Brand Management that they present one thing, while not spoiling the actual event.

      I avoid previews of movies that I might want to see like the plague. It can be humorous but its for similar reasoning. I WANT TO BE SURPRISED.

      Also, to pre-empt an easy rebuttal, Alan talks about productions in which he gives low ratings when something isn't really all that compelling, one reason being that things are cliche or signaled ahead of time. I think its time that producers (and casting) realize that they signal things with casting. They want to use established actor cache at times for their benefit (Sean Bean's connection to LotR, Charlie Sheen actually being a boozing womanizer, NPH just because he's NPH, etc.) but seem to lazy to go out and find someone not in the pool of 200 to 300 actors/actresses we see all the time, when the tension of a character's survivability is important. Does Ice-T (whom I'm a fan of) really need his 4th or 5th gig of the year, or can they find a lesser-known curmudgeon, light-skinned, Afro-American with an urban accent to reprise that roll. (I fit the description, and am highly available).
      In this economy, we may not want to spread the wealth, but we could at least spread the employment opportunities out so we can all get through this...

      SEAN BEAN! Full Circle... sort of...

      June 6, 2011 at 10:38AM EST
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      JoJo In a past episode, a Night's Watch guy asked Ned for prisoners from the dungeons, I mean recruits. Maybe Ned will be allowed to join Jon Snow at the Wall

      June 6, 2011 at 10:41AM EST
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      jon Kind of random, but Steven Seagal died fairly early on in the movie "Executive Decision" and I remember thinking, "wow I can't believe they killed off Seagal." It would be cool if they did the same thing with Bean/Ned. It would set a precedent that no character is safe, regardless of the actor.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:56AM EST
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      rowan729 Just wanted to jump in here and remind everyone of a little movie from the 90s called Scream, and a top-billed actress who was present in all the trailers, did promos for the movie, and who happened to die in the first 10 minutes or so of the film. So, there is a precendent for killing off a top-billed star's character in movies and tv-the other LOTR star from a certain famous tv series didn't survive that show's run, either.
      However, I think it would be unprecedented for an HBO show to kill off the character they've built the first season around-it's Ned in all the GOT ads, sitting on the Iron Throne in his The Thinker pose, Ned in all the trailers for the show.....I would hate to see him go!!

      June 6, 2011 at 12:17PM EST
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      nancyhallatr John Goodman was, arguably, the biggest name in Treme and they killed him off. It's a brave, new world in TV programming; where breaking the mold is becoming predictable. That being said, I don't think they'll kill Ned off, either.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:49PM EST
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      webdiva Who the hell told you they won't kill Ned Stark???! They way the action has played out so far, there's no way he can survive the next episode without acknowledging Joffrey's right to the throne, and he won't do that (Sansa's an idiot to think he will). Which to me means he's already dead, just still walking.

      June 7, 2011 at 12:52AM EST
    • "We" know no such thing. Looking through Bean's filmography, his characters have a most distressing tendency to die before the final credits -- does an obscure indie flop called 'Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring' ring any bells?

      June 7, 2011 at 2:20PM EST
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      witless chum Joss Whedon said he wanted to use that trick in first season of Buffy, putting Eric Balfour in the credits only to kill him off before the end of first episode. He says in his commentary that he was told the credits were done and they didn't have any money to redo them. That would have predated "Scream."

      June 7, 2011 at 3:06PM EST
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    John W

    Excellent Episode. The actor playing Hodor is really going to be popular with the ladies, to paraphrase the late Marty Feldman, I felt sorry for Sansa and the way they used psychological torture to condemn her father. That scene with Syrio was one for the ages. I hope that isn't the last we see of him.

    June 6, 2011 at 10:09AM EST Reply to Comment
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    MattH

    Lysa's son is named Robert. Robin is her pet name for him. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but I'm sorry to say it annoys me.

    June 6, 2011 at 10:15AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Matt That's true in the books, but they changed his name to Robin for the show to avoid having people confuse him with Robert Baratheon.

      June 6, 2011 at 10:38AM EST
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    yrwehere

    I thought this was the best episode yet. I am wondering, though, when Robb told the scout what to tell Lannister if he is planning to do something else.

    June 6, 2011 at 10:24AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Damien I may be confused, but I thought Robb said earlier they only have 8000 men? I thought he didn't make up his mind to let the spy go until he asked the key question: "And how many men did you count?" When the spy answers "20,000", I thought Robb saw it as an opportunity to send misinformation back to the other camp. If the Lannisters think the Starks have mustered a 20,000 person army, they will think better of meeting them in battle.

      Of course, the downside to this (if it's true at all) is that the Lannisters clearly have the resources to bump their number up. And it would seem the Starks have called in all their chips...

      June 6, 2011 at 12:16PM EST
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      Sam Hope He said he had 18,000 men not quite 20k but a much larger host thank 8,000 it is also important to remember that the Lannisters have divided their forces with Tywin leading one army and Jaime the other

      June 6, 2011 at 12:26PM EST
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      Philosopher I think it was 18,000, not 8,000. But I noticed the same thing, and figured that Robb let the scout go because he unwittingly inflated the Starks' troop totals.

      What I'm surprised about is why Robb didn't call upon the Baratheons for support. I guess he thinks that Joffrey is Robert's son, so he assumes that they'll support the Lannisters.

      June 6, 2011 at 12:33PM EST
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      ShopeIV @Philospher just because he hasnt does not mean that he will not it is possible Renly will try and ally with Robb has he unnsuccesfully attempted to with Ned

      June 6, 2011 at 1:14PM EST
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      bensquared We don't know that he didn't call the Baratheons. That was a lot of Ravens they sent out, the ones you see are just the ones that actually showed up.

      June 8, 2011 at 3:17AM EST
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      mummer Philosopher & Bensquared: Robb was calling up the northern lords who owe direct allegiance to House Stark. That's what he meant by "bannermen." He doesn't have to ask for their support-- they *are* his army, by definition. Not to mention that they're already in the North like him, rather than half a continent away like the Baratheons.

      June 9, 2011 at 4:24AM EST
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    ShopeIV

    Its important to note that despite all of her training with Syrio when Arya has need to kill she instead just goes with Jon Snows advice and sticks him with the pointy end of the sword. She may talk a big game but thus far she is still just a little girl

    June 6, 2011 at 10:39AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Barfo I didn't get that feeling from the scene. What i felt was that the scene was establishing that she had internalized Syrios teachings somewhat especially his very first one about letting the sword become an extension of your body. She had just reached down to touch the sword, the kid made a motion towards her, and suddenly it was drawn and sticking through him, surprising even her. But you are correct, the scene i think also supports Jon's sort of cynically realistic view of swordfighting as well (in fact it could be intentional statement saying that both descriptions are sort of simultaneously true, the show has a theme of cutting through the glorification of fighting/battle).

      I disagree with your analysis of her as talkign big but just being a little girl (though in fact obviously she also is that), a little girl would not necessarily have handled it that way (look at sansa's reactions), what I see her as is somebody too young thrust into a very difficult situation and making the necessary bold choices, not in fact completely dissimilar to how Robb had to 'step up' in this episode, and both of them showing some traits of expediency that their dad was unable to.

      June 7, 2011 at 12:35PM EST
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      ShopeIV I think she was a a little girl may be a better way of phrasing it... once she killed that boy she lost her innocence and is going to have to start growing up and quickly too if she means to survive or avoid being captured by the Lannisters

      June 7, 2011 at 2:12PM EST
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    RU Serious

    Best show currently on the air, as dorky as I feel saying it. I haven't read the books, and I don't want to color anyone else's opinion, but the way the King died, less dramatic than I would have expected (off screen, even) shows me that this show is willing to make some choices that formula might dictate against. Again, I haven't read the books, or any spoiler info, but based on the characters so far, Ned's chances are very, very slim. The Lannisters are ruthless, Ned is obviously paralyzed by scruples and code; I'm still not sure why he didn't just shout "BECAUSE YOUR UNCLE IS YOUR DAD!" in the Throne Room, I mean at the very least it would have made things awkward, and he had to at least think there was a chance he'd never walk out of that room. Why take that to your grave? Throw it out there so at least SOME people in the room go "You know, NONE of their kids look like Robert, which is weird."

    June 6, 2011 at 10:39AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Victorycurtis I was under the impression that most of the king's (former and present) council members already know that Joffrey isn't the late King Robert's son. At the very least, Littlefinger and Vary's both know.

      June 6, 2011 at 11:04AM EST
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