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For 'Community,' how much meta is too much?

Checking in on the hilarious, reference-heavy NBC comedy

For 'Community,' how much meta is too much?

Joel McHale and Gillian Jacobs in a scene from tomorrow night's "Community."

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"I hated reference humor in my 20s," I was once told by Dan Harmon, creator of NBC's "Community" - which happens to be one of the most reference-heavy comedies on TV. (It's also one of the funniest.)

During a January TV Critics Association trip to the set of the NBC comedy about a misfit study group at a community college, which airs a new episode tomorrow at 8, I asked Harmon about the show's fondness for both meta humor, in which characters (specifically, Danny Pudi as eccentric film student Abed) talk about the show as if they're aware they're in a show, and for references to popular culture (also usually via Abed).

How much, I asked, was too much?

Harmon invoked one of his (and my) favorite sitcoms, the grounded, timeless "Taxi."

"When they were on the set of 'Taxi,' I'm sure someone said, 'Let's do a Rubik's Cube episode!'" Harmon suggested. "And someone else said, 'How about we do a good show?' And when aliens are digging up the earth, they find 'Taxi,' and they go, 'I get it! The taxicab is like a UFO, and...'"

He said that he tried to keep the reference humor confined to the character of Abed, whose obsession with movies and TV make him a natural repository for jokes about "The Breakfast Club" and "The Dark Knight," and that despite Abed's running commentary on how the show's characters and plots relate to pop culture archetypes, Harmon and the other writers had a line they drew about how far to take those jokes.

"We don't go to our Thursday night half-hour shows hoping to have our illusions subverted," he said. "We don't hope someone will kick us in the ass and say, 'You're watching television, stupid! Stop doing it!' We go there because we want a half-hour break, and we want to escape into a place that has a fourth wall... How meta is too meta? The answer is simple: it's too meta when you're being punished for watching the show."

In the months since we had that conversation, "Community" has somehow managed to become even more meta and reference-heavy. Two weeks ago, the show did a note-perfect homage to "Goodfellas," in which the study group became an organized crime syndicate controlling the supply of the school cafeteria's beloved chicken fingers. This week's episode, meanwhile, starts off with Abed discussing where wisecracking Jeff (Joel McHale) and tragically hip Britta (Gillian Jacobs) fall on the spectrum of classic Will-They-Or-Won't-They? sitcom couples - this in response to many viewers complaining, as Abed does, about their lack of chemistry - and then takes a right turn into a storyline about a campus paintball tournament that winds up spoofing every major action/thriller movie cliché of the last quarter-century.

The episode couldn't contain any more references to "Community" itself - at one point, Jeff tells his paintball allies that he doesn't want to "resort to cheap ploys" to win, followed immediately by him stripping down to an undershirt to show off the physique that makes Joel McHale such a hit with certain demographics - nor to other shows and movies. (Among the specific films cited: "The Matrix," "Scarface," "Die Hard," "Hard Boiled," and "28 Days Later.")

Yet even though it makes Harmon's January comments seem a little silly, the plain fact is that the episode - written by Emily Cutler and directed, appropriately enough, by Justin Lin, of "Fast & Furious" fame - is a ton of fun, and another winner from what's quickly become one of the best comedies on television.

While the idea of doing a timeless show that even space aliens can appreciate is a nice one, we do live in a society that is exceedingly aware of pop culture (even if nobody knows it as well as Abed does), so there's nothing wrong with telling stories and jokes about characters who have seen a lot of Bill Murray movies. (Chevy Chase movies, on the other hand, are off the table, since Chase plays the group's resident scapegoat, Pierce.) The trick is to not go down the rabbit hole so that your story becomes nothing but references. Because that way lies "Family Guy" - amusing on occasion, empty and tedious on a regular basis.

What Harmon and his "Community" writers understand (just as their counterparts at NBC's "Chuck") is that the references can be used for humor, and/or to please audience members who recognize them, but that they have to be tied to honest efforts at characterization to work long-term. The "Goodfellas" episode was ultimately about how Abed and Jeff each relate to other people. A recent episode where uptight study group members Annie (Alison Brie, who's been a comic revelation after coming over from "Mad Men") and Shirley (Yvette Nicole Brown) turned into a pair of bickering buddy cops was largely about how both of them resented how they were perceived by the group. When Abed and Troy (Donald Glover) sang the love theme from the animated children's movie "An American Tail" in order to lure their lab mouse out of hiding, the duet became a commentary on their budding, absurdly watchable friendship. (The show has very wisely turned the "tag" scene over the end credits into a weekly showcase for Pudi and Glover to be silly, and the world is a happier place for that.)

And what is the paintball episode about? Well... okay, so there's some Jeff/Britta stuff in there (and the show has become much smarter about how it's used that pair in recent months), but for once this one's a pretty shameless journey into Abed-land - albeit a hilarious, well-executed one.

That's fine every now and again, particularly from a show with as much enthusiasm and surprising heart as "Community." But I look forward to talking with Harmon about aliens, taxi cabs and Rubik's Cubes again before season two begins.

 Alan Sepinwall may be reached at sepinwall@hitfix.com

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    Q Ball

    Personally I love the references, but I think Community is still a funny show in its own right. There are some talented actors and endearing silliness to the show that I think would appeal to a mainstream audience. Good write up Alan, hopefully this will give people who gave up on Community a reason to give the show a second chance.

    May 5, 2010 at 3:53PM EST Reply to Comment
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    MylesMcNutt

    I thought it was interesting that the "Goodfellas" homage was one of the episodes which was "added" to the episode order after the fact (making it one of the final stories "broken" in terms of the season's arc, if not one of the final ones filmed). Makes you wonder whether we might be getting less of the meta-humour if the show had a tighter episode order, not unlike how Chuck lost its fun standalone episodes when the third season got cut to 13.

    At the end of the day, I think part of the fun of Community is how they've been resistant to becoming stale, able to branch out or embrace something should it prove particularly engaging. I think that too much meta would be if it felt like the show were resting on its pop cultural laurels, but the show is really pushing itself into new territory on a regular basis, and the result (as you rightly point out) is one of the best and most adventurous comedies on television.

    May 5, 2010 at 3:55PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Randoman The three extra episodes were:

      Science of Illusion: Buddy Cop Parody
      Contemporary American Poultry: Goodfellas Parody
      Art of Discourse: Not a direct parody but lots of references to Animal House.

      So clearly these ideas did not make the original "cut" for the season but were dusted off when NBC ordered new episodes.

      Methinks that if Community had 25 episodes from the very beginning, these overtly meta-episodes would have been more spaced out over the course of the season. Or might not have even been made if it wasn't for the late order.

      May 6, 2010 at 3:17AM EST
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    jobert

    I still think their best reference was the Cookie Crisp wizard gag where Troy was confused 'cause their mascot was a burglar when he grew up.

    May 5, 2010 at 3:56PM EST Reply to Comment
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    TylerA

    May 5, 2010 at 4:02PM EST Reply to Comment
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    TylerA

    First attempt at a comment is a fail, but to be fair I was setting up the account. Anyway, I love being able to pick out the references in the show, but I love that all these meta references actually lead to some sort of characterization. Although, the occasional out-and-out silliness is still awesome. On a side note, does it make me a bad person, if in my head, I pronounce Abed's name just like Pierce does?

    May 5, 2010 at 4:05PM EST Reply to Comment
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      albatross As long as you don't say "baggle".

      May 5, 2010 at 5:06PM EST


  • Love community as well, and when I saw the promo during Chuck I was pumped for this week.

    Also love how Hitfix is advertising you as the "TV critic who saved Chuck and the Wire." That pretty much makes you the most awesome TV critic of all time I think.

    May 5, 2010 at 4:07PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Tuchman Marsh

    The more it goes into this meta-reference territory, the more it recalls the Simon Pegg/Edgar Wright/Jessica Hynes UK series SPACED. That was another show that had a premise where movie references, etc would pop up, but the show remained grounded in the great characters and writing. Watching the episodes from 1999-2000, and besides the episode that is dedicated to a Matrix parody, it all remains as fresh as it was back then.

    If Community wants to be a mix of Taxi and Spaced, then i'll be very, very happy. Both shows are among my favorites of all-time.

    May 5, 2010 at 4:10PM EST Reply to Comment
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    J

    I like Joel McHale, and I like the sweetness of the Abed character. But as soon as they start in with the references I'm reminded why I've very rarely watched a full episode of this show. It's half-conceived situations with a lot of patronizing "Hey aren't we all smart for acknowledging these particular elements of crap culture" patchwork.

    Shows like "Party Down" remind you that "Community" -- how horrible would ITS Steve Guttenberg episode be -- is never going to amount to more than geek jizz in a cup.

    (Ongoing Hitfix comments commentary: I miss the "preview comment" function.)

    May 5, 2010 at 4:14PM EST Reply to Comment
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    kaminski

    As long as the meta-stuff and references continue to come organically out of the characters and situations, then I don't think it could be "too meta".

    May 5, 2010 at 4:18PM EST Reply to Comment
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    CommunityFan

    I was with you for the first half of your column, Alan, but then you let them off the hook too easily. The show has been very disappointing to me recently and in the last few episodes in particular. Part of the problem is an over abundance of references and meta remarks but another issue is them having everyone hang around each other too much like they are one big family instead of having more individual lives like they did early on.

    It's my favorite new comedy of the season and I'm glad it got renewed but it is evolving into a sketch comedy, like a 20 minute weekly SNL sketch instead of something with even an ounce of meat on the bones. I don't expect it to become like Parks and Rec but it could do well to head a little more in that direction.

    May 5, 2010 at 4:30PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Jaynee

    I adore Community and have thoroughly enjoyed having this show available this season - especially since The Office and 30 Rock have been less than stellar. Community makes me look forward to Thursdays. When I saw the previews for this week's episode I wished I could fast-forward and watch it immediately. It looks like it'll be a lot of fun!

    May 5, 2010 at 4:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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    cadfile

    Right as long as the meta isn't all there is to it all the time then it works. I'm glad the show doesn't ignore that the audience has seen a lot of TV and movies and even the stuff I don't get at first is still funny.

    May 5, 2010 at 4:32PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Anonymous

    a new episode tonight at 8

    Was this story meant to post tomorrow?

    May 5, 2010 at 4:34PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Adam I wondered the same thing, and was about to go check the listings to make sure NBC hadn't thrown in a "very special Wednesday episode"...

      May 5, 2010 at 4:43PM EST
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      Hobart I think this is intended to be picked up by the Star-Ledger tomorrow.

      May 5, 2010 at 4:51PM EST
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      sepinwall Thanks for pointing out the mistake, guys. Have to break some old newspaper habits and such in terms of writing things a day in advance to run day-of.

      May 5, 2010 at 5:07PM EST
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      albatross Maybe it's a meta review that will be referenced in tomorrow's episode...

      May 5, 2010 at 5:11PM EST
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    Sharpless

    They like this

    May 5, 2010 at 6:37PM EST Reply to Comment
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    klg19

    "Chase plays the group's resident scapegoat, Pierce"

    Uh...don't you mean "escape goat," Alan?

    *snerk*

    God, I love this show. Love, love, love. And not just for Joel McHale's physique...but I gotta say it doesn't hoit.

    May 5, 2010 at 7:28PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Alanna

    Great post, Alan. I'll admit that I was wary of the HitFix move because I dislike(d) the site itself, though I can learn to live with that. I really like this piece both as a Community fan and because I'm glad to see you writing a "feature" story, along the lines of what we might read in the (tragically faded) EntWkly. Now that you have a different venue, do you plan to do more meta stories like this one? If so, I look forward to reading them!

    May 5, 2010 at 8:30PM EST Reply to Comment
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    allen

    Speaking of shows on the verge - if you're a Chuck fan you should have a read of this piece - it's generating quite a lot of attention. The guy is arguing Community deserves a second shot but it's time to pull the plug on Chuck

    http://www.remotepatrolled.com/2010/05/chuck-it-out/

    May 5, 2010 at 8:48PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Q Ball The author gives a pretty level-headed argument, but he seems to have Nielsen-blinders on. His argument is based on the radical change of the TV landscape these last twenty years and doesn't mention once that the Nielsen ratings aren't the be all end all anymore?

      I'm not saying Chuck is the most worthy of a renewal ratings wise, but as a fan of the show and frequenter of the Internet, I can say that Chuck has a pretty solid fanbase. NBC could do a lot worse.

      May 5, 2010 at 10:30PM EST
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    Egad

    I honestly can't stand the humor in this show. The characters in it are the exact opposite of what I like.

    May 5, 2010 at 9:55PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Dave Lifton

    I remember the Rubik's Cube episode of Taxi. One of the best in its history.

    May 5, 2010 at 10:17PM EST Reply to Comment
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    ST

    I want to note that I don't get a lot of culture references on Community, but I still enjoy the show as a character-driven comedy. Like, I've never seen Goodfellas, but the ep was plenty funny for me (Annie's Boobs escaped!). I have high hopes for getting the references for the action movie homage tomorrow, though.

    May 5, 2010 at 11:38PM EST Reply to Comment
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    JohnAdcox

    They like this

    May 5, 2010 at 11:49PM EST Reply to Comment
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    pamelajaye

    oh crap. Community is being meta? That means I'm going to have to watch it! and possibly keep it. I missed my favorite St Elsewhere ep ("Sue Ann Niven!!")

    May 5, 2010 at 11:49PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Ryan W

    I am with you, Alan, on the improvements in Community since the season started. The show has a good cast with some sharp and layered writing, but I fear that Dan Harmon is creating the new Murphy Brown: a likable show with almost no long-term replay value. Anyone ever tried to watch Murphy Brown during the couple of years they attempted to sell it into syndication?

    May 6, 2010 at 12:10AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Tuchman Marsh The majority of the references the show is making, though, are things that are well into the public consciousness. Goodfellas came out in 1990, most of the action movies they send up are from the '80s, etc. Outside of some one-liners that practically every show is doing now (digs on Glee, Twitter), it's not as of the moment as you think it is.

      Community is, as any great show is, story first, references/jokes second. It's why you can still watch a wonderful series like Newsradio in 2010, with its dozens of Unibomber jokes in the first season, and you aren't losing any of the entertainment value.

      May 6, 2010 at 12:47AM EST
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    Orrmad

    They like this

    May 6, 2010 at 1:03AM EST Reply to Comment


  • I agree with the notion that most of the meta jokes come organically. Sometimes, I do not understand a joke as well as other people, but that's no big deal to me. The cast is insanely talented - each member brings a different, endearing quality to the show and I have become big fans of each actor. I would love to see some of the little jokes linger around, so it's a little like Arrested Development in the sense that it rewards its dedicated viewers.

    May 6, 2010 at 1:23AM EST Reply to Comment


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  • Alan - what's with the Paintball spoilers? It's not much, granted, but still...I like going into episodes not knowing too much, and it seems you get into some stuff about it that is spoiler zone.

    May 6, 2010 at 9:24AM EST Reply to Comment
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      sepinwall Think of this like a column I'd have written for The Star-Ledger before an episode aired. There's an acceptable, fairly mild level of spoilers for that sort of thing, and I feel I stayed within the confines of that.

      May 6, 2010 at 10:20AM EST
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      sepinwall Basically, stuff like this is written not just for the fans who are watching every episode, but for people who may not have sampled the show and might be interested, and so you have to give them a flavor of what's in store.

      May 6, 2010 at 10:21AM EST
    • Ok fair enough..just seemed more than you usually spill. Maybe it's fine-tuning for this new crowd?

      May 6, 2010 at 12:50PM EST
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    Nonpopulist

    Great review of a great show. Well done.

    May 6, 2010 at 10:05AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Maura

    I have a high tolerance for meta humor, as long as 1) it's not the only thing going on, and 2) I don't feel like I'm being beaten over the head with it. Community has a long way to go before it crosses either line.

    I stopped reading when the mild spoilers appeared. I try to go in blind with every show I watch.

    May 6, 2010 at 12:57PM EST Reply to Comment
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    doublesuited77

    They like this

    May 6, 2010 at 8:41PM EST Reply to Comment
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