Firewall & Iceberg podcast, episode 21: 'The Gates,' 'Scoundrels,' 'Memphis Beat' & more
Lots of new shows this week - just not a lot of good ones.

Busy week for the Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, as Dan and I preview a bunch of new shows (few of them very good, alas), continue our summer run through "Undeclared" and weigh in on the "Breaking Bad" finale. Though I guessed late in the podcast that this would be our longest installment ever, it actually clocks in a little under an hour, and here are the segment times:
ABC's "Scoundrels" and "The Gates" -- 01:55 - 15:35
"Memphis Beat" -- 15:40 - 19:30
"Hot in Cleveland" -- 19:30 - 23:15
ESPN's "June 17, 1994" -- 23:15 - 27:35
"Undeclared" -- 27:40 - 39:35
"Rubicon" -- 39:40 - 45:00
"Breaking Bad" -- 45:25 - 56:35
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June 16, 2010 at 8:18PM EST Reply to CommentAww no attempt to say "from hitfix dot com" at the same time from you guys this week? :D
forg
June 16, 2010 at 8:19PM EST Reply to CommentThey like this
June 16, 2010 at 8:54PM EST Reply to CommentYou seem always to be greater concerned with the duration of the show. I think an hour IS a good length for it. I skip past the shows I don't watch anyway, so mostly it ends up being less than an hour.
Tuchman Marsh Yeah, I thought this week's podcast was great, due to the length, and the amount of shows you got to cover thoroughly. The more analysis you guys can bring on a show, the better.
June 17, 2010 at 3:10AM ESTtl
June 16, 2010 at 9:10PM EST Reply to Commentwhat about kevin hart he was hilarious on undeclared. undeclared was a great show because they had great guests like sandler, ferrel and stiller.
hey
June 17, 2010 at 1:52AM EST Reply to CommentGeoffrey Arend has a pretty good career going with his role in 500 days of summer and elsewhere.
Rick
June 17, 2010 at 2:51AM EST Reply to CommentIn reference to "Chekov's windshield"...
There is actually a long description by Vince Gilligan on the Breaking Bad podcast of a scene of Walt Jr's driving test that they had written but didn't get to film because they knew the episode would run too long. It's a shame it didn't make the cut -- it sounded like it would have been a pretty funny early scene
June 17, 2010 at 9:37AM EST Reply to CommentAs much as I love the podcast, I think just a little stinger of intro music would make the whole thing sound 75% more professional. Lots of amateur podcasts manage this, there's got to be plenty of CC-liscensed music you could use.
belinda
June 17, 2010 at 10:26AM EST Reply to CommentIt's too bad that ABC can't seem to remake Outrageous Fortune (it's not the best show in the world, but has its moments of hilarious debauchery and is my guilty pleasure. Have either of you watched the original (or I think there's also a UK version which kind of bombed too), and any thoughts on it?) into a halfway decent show.
Also, would love to hear more impressions from Alan now that we know he was 'that guy' in college. :D
sepinwall Dan has put his foot down on impressions during the podcast.
June 17, 2010 at 11:20AM ESTAlso, Geoffrey Arend is way, way, way better at them than I am, and I would therefore not want to follow him anytime soon.
June 17, 2010 at 10:42AM EST Reply to CommentRe watching Undeclared is always a treat. Just blows my mind it only got one series, while not as good as Freaks and Geeks, you can understand how Freaks and Geeks never picked up the audience. Undeclared just feels like the college comedy. How the he'll does Greek getting so many series?
Not sure how an Englishmen can do such a fake sounding English accent. Lloyd sounds so cliche.
I spent about half the series waiting for it to be revealed that Lloyd was from Montana or something, and the accent and all the Britishisms were fake.
June 17, 2010 at 1:53PM ESTI guess instead, he just fully got how hot girls got for British guys, so he hammered the point home as often as he could.
Sareeta
June 17, 2010 at 6:05PM EST Reply to CommentFunny, funny podcast this week, guys. I especially loved the vampire genre discussion. Currently, The Good Wife is just OK... It would be way more interesting if Alicia went to work for a law firm of vampires. Mad Men might even be worth watching if it were about vampires. The first thing I thought of The Gates promos was Desperate Housewives meets True Blood (i.e., the soapiness of ABC with the vampire theme to make the show stand out). I'm glad at least one of you liked it because I was looking forward to it.
Also, I'm a big World Cup fan and I wouldn't mind spending a few minutes discussing the event. Some interesting games this week.
rosengje
June 18, 2010 at 2:56AM EST Reply to CommentI would just like to register my dissatisfaction that in your comparison of the greatness of Breaking Bad Season 3 to Mad Men Season 3 you neglected to mention the true best season of television this year: Sons of Anarchy Season 2.
marmad
June 18, 2010 at 7:24AM EST Reply to CommentAlan,
Although I thoroughly enjoyed this season of Breaking Bad, I don't agree at all that it 'kicked the ass' of the last season of Mad Men. There were some cliché-ridden elements this season of Breaking Bad (the unstoppable killing machine of the cousins) which, for me, lessened the impact of the overall season (and seemed out of place with the much more briliant and subtle writing later on). Also, it appears to me that Gilligan et al actually 'lifted' one of the great main arcs from last season of Mad Men (the emasculation and rebirth of Don Draper) and reused it on Walter White.
eggwizard
June 18, 2010 at 11:32AM EST Reply to CommentWhat is this you're saying about Breaking Bad starting late next year? Is it starting in May or what?