Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, episode 120: 'Mad Men,' 'The Walking Dead,' 'Bent' & more
Dan and Alan also talk about the 'Luck' cancellation, review more 'Touch' and answer your mail
It's a long, and at times strange, Firewall & Iceberg Podcast this week, one where we wound up spending more time talking about the Denver Broncos quarterback situation than we did the "Mad Men" season premiere (but only because Matt Weiner would have likely shot us if we'd said more than we did). Between "Mad Men," "The Walking Dead" finale, the cancellation of "Luck," the debut of NBC's "Bent" and the return of FOX's "Touch," there's an awful lot of TV to talk about before we get to the end-of-show sportstalk segment. If it's not our longest podcast ever, it's up there. Hopefully, some of y'all have a long commute this week to get proper value.
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Login or create a HitFix account Login SignupWar Chief Shake Zula
March 19, 2012 at 6:36PM EST Reply to CommentSix day killing spree?
I wouldn't mind that. They could come up w/ inventive ways to kill the people.
War Chief Shake Zula
March 19, 2012 at 6:59PM EST Reply to CommentDO IT! COME UP W/ FAKE SPOILERS! THOSE WOULD BE FUNNY!
War Chief Shake Zula
March 19, 2012 at 7:27PM EST Reply to CommentI don't think I'd be a fan of smoothing over. I'm certainly not a fan of such in music.
renton
March 19, 2012 at 7:52PM EST Reply to CommentYou should animate the podcast with monkeys. (Alternative: Grover and Elmo)
sepinwall Dibs on Grover!
March 19, 2012 at 8:12PM ESTThough animating us would remove the need for Stat-Phoebe Tonkin.
March 19, 2012 at 8:19PM EST-Daniel
War Chief Shake Zula You could still squeeze her in. Sesame Street does it all the time! (except when everyone and their mother's lover has issues w/ Katy Perry and her boobs)
March 19, 2012 at 8:35PM ESTJobin Daniel,
March 20, 2012 at 3:55PM ESTAre you agreeable to being the "Anne's Boobs" monkey on Community?
Or are you going to go old school and be Marcel the monkey from Friends?
exiledjerseyite
March 19, 2012 at 10:42PM EST Reply to CommentI think I got more of a Tebow education from this podcast than the fact that I live about 40 minutes from Denver. (And the fact that I grew up in a Big Blue household so I don't care about the Broncos at all.) I enjoy the sports talk segments, more so when I actually know the teams/players involved.
I'd totally watch a Firewall & Iceberg Do PTI show.
Viginti
March 20, 2012 at 5:54AM EST Reply to CommentA live FireWall/IceBerg show is a horrible idea ( the podcast is perfect as is) but a scripted program or documentary about your lives and adventures in TV criticism would be massively compelling me thinks. There could be shots of you watching shows, shots of you re-watching shows, shots of you writing reviews and then in special feature length episodes you could go to cons and we could watch you watch panels on the shows you watch, then watch you write-up them up!! The only reason that this show doesn't already exist has to be the footage and music rights, right?
sepinwall Your ideas intrigue me.
March 20, 2012 at 10:55AM ESTNJMark
March 20, 2012 at 10:39AM EST Reply to Commentre: non-series content
It was very annoying when The Office put key details only in the "deleted scenes" on their website.
I barely have the time to watch the broadcasts as it is (with a DVR at 90% full or more). Bonus features are nice (like the "Subtle Sexuality" videos), but I don't want to have to take extra effort to keep up with the shows I like.
sepinwall Yes, especially since The Office will from time to time reveal significant information in deleted scenes, and then never reintroduce that info in the show itself because of Greg Daniels' belief that the deleted scenes are canon. That's how we found out, for instance, that Creed Bratton is *the* Creed Bratton, or that Gabe is now splitting time between Scranton and Tallahassee.
March 20, 2012 at 10:54AM ESTevolution1085
March 20, 2012 at 10:52AM EST Reply to CommentKenny Britt, while entirely insane, is a capable #1 receiver, averaging over 17 yards per reception for his career with two of the most mediocre QBS in the league getting him the ball (Vince Young and Kerry Collins). If I was Manning, and had the chance to link up with Britt, Chris Johnson, and be received like a golden god by the state of Tennessee, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
chuchundra
March 20, 2012 at 11:15AM EST Reply to CommentHere's the thing about Luck. A second season wasn't going to anything for HBO. They weren't going to build their brand or draw in new subscribers. They'd be spending more money to put a show that nobody watches in one of their premium Sunday spots.
And you know, horses die from racing-related injuries all the time. Something like 800 a year in North America alone. They are odd creatures, at once both delicate and powerful. Milch had to know, given his love of horse racing, that if he was going to work with these animals and put them in races or race-like conditions, that there were going to be injuries and possibly deaths as a result.
tag8833
March 20, 2012 at 1:01PM EST Reply to CommentThe funniest thing I've ever heard on the podcast was Alan reacting to Dan's question if he like Carol from the Walking Dead: "I don't know why anybody would"
I agree with you, but fascinatingly Carol is one of my girlfriends favorite characters. So I quized her about it, and she explained it like this.
1) Hate: Laurie, Carl, Shane, Rick, Beth, Jimmy, Patricia, Dale, Andrea, Hershal, T-Dog, Maggie
2) Like: Daryl, Glenn
3) No opinon of: Carol
Making Carol her 3rd favorite character.
sepinwall How could anyone hate T-Dog? He'd have to do something first, right?
March 20, 2012 at 1:06PM ESTtag8833 Also, I think a PTI show about TV starring you and Dan, would jump to the top of my TIVO list.
March 20, 2012 at 1:36PM ESTtag8833 Re: T-Dog
March 20, 2012 at 1:38PM ESTThat was my response, but she hates him for not being more useful, and also for wanting to abandon the others in the finale. She is prone to hate and forgive easily.
Craig
March 20, 2012 at 4:30PM EST Reply to CommentYou guys are way too invested in the idea that Broncos fans are attached to Tebow. I agree that Elway has to off-load him on some sucker team to avoid the glare of the "play Tebow" contingency if Manning struggles. But the idea that the city cares whether the team gets value out of trading him is silly. On some level, a lot of these assumptions rest on the idea that the Denver fan-base is really, really stupid, and don't realize that Tebow kind of sucks. I'd argue that they have the same view of the guy as most people do, and were just riding the roller coaster with him because it was a fun story.
RU Serious Couldn't agree more, there is no way more than 1% of the Denver Broncos fanbase PASSIONATELY wants Tim Tebow, full stop. That's a knowledgeable football town, and the minute they realize Tebow 2012 isn't Tebow 2011, and he goes back to being the worst starting QB in the NFL , none of them are going to be "tebowing" anymore. Peyton Manning will be welcomed in that city almost messianically, regarldess of five good games from an awful NFL player. The 1% are the Christian Contingent.
March 21, 2012 at 8:25AM ESThank_brockett
March 21, 2012 at 9:47AM EST Reply to CommentTwo "artist" renderings on what Firewall & Iceberg: The PTI-ish TV Show might look like, featuring Alan, Dan & "Stat Young Lady" Phoebe Tonkin! http://bit.ly/GEveGF
sepinwall As I said on Twitter, that's outstanding. Excellent work, Hank.
March 21, 2012 at 10:06AM ESTgladly Wow, that's fantastic! It almost makes me like PTI just for being associated with it. (Not quite, nothing could make me like Tony Kornheiser.)
March 21, 2012 at 3:25PM ESTStephenH2OMan
March 22, 2012 at 11:25AM EST Reply to CommentKenny Britt is a number one receiver!
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