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Review: 'Community' - 'Foosball and Nocturnal Vigilantism': Das Bat

A strong Jeff/Shirley story is paired with a silly Annie/Abed/Troy one

<p>Annie (Alison Brie) and Troy (Donald Glover) on "Community."</p>

Annie (Alison Brie) and Troy (Donald Glover) on "Community."

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Of the two storylines in "Foosball and Nocturnal Vigilantism," one tried to get some juice out of a pairing the show has used sparingly in the past, while the other tried to get away with doing a tired old sitcom plot by having a character note early on that it was a tired sitcom plot. The first story wound up being much more successful than the second.

It's actually a little surprising to me that the show hasn't gone to the Jeff/Shirley well more often over the years, since she's just as much his spiritual opposite as Britta is, if not more. If the study group as a whole were a cartoon character (and we got to see both Shirley and Jeff rendered anime style during their epic foosball showdown), Jeff could easily be positioned as the hipper-than-thou devil on one shoulder, and Shirley as the good but manipulative angel on the other. Instead, we mainly get Britta as Jeff's conscience, which allows the show to have some fun with sexual tension but has lacked some moral juice ever since the writers decided that Britta's defining characteristic should be her gift for Britta'ing everything. So I think there's an opening for Shirley here, and in rare combinations like we got tonight, we can see that Joel McHale and Yvette Nicole Brown work very well together.

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The foosball story, in addition to giving them a common origin(*), was also a reminder that while they're opposites in many ways, they also have a lot in common. We've learned in the past that Shirley wasn't always the pious woman with the giant purse and the Miss Piggy voice. This is a persona she's created to erase bad memories from the past, just like the moussed, toned, too-cool-for-school Jeff Winger we see today is a response to many things in his past - including, it turns out, wetting his pants as the result of some bullying by young Shirley. I really enjoyed seeing the two of them come together, particularly in a story that allowed Shirley to become very amusingly competitive, and that featured a terrific guest star turn by Nick Kroll as the leader of the German foosball posse. (The "I wish there was a word to describe the pleasure I feel at viewing misfortune" was one of the better schadenfreude-themed jokes I've heard in a while.) 

(*) That's actually another TV trope, albeit much less common than the one from the Annie/Abed story, where in the later seasons of a show you find out that two or more of the characters actually knew each other as children. "Mad About You" did it, "The Simpsons" has done it a few times, I believe, and even "Fringe" has done it with Peter and Olivia.

Annie covering up for breaking Abed's limited-edition "Dark Knight," on the other hand? Well, it gave Danny Pudi a chance to bust out his always-hilarious Christian Bale impression(**) for the first time in a while, and it gave Donald Glover a slightly different note to play as a more manic Troy, where for once he was the most mature and sensible character in a storyline. That was good. But overall it didn't seem much different, or better, than the many, many, many other sitcoms that have done the - as Troy described it - "'secretly replace a priceless broken item' thing" before it. Not unfunny, but a whole lot flimsier than what "Community" is capable of so much of the time.

(**) And gave Alison Brie a chance to attempt her own, briefly.

What did everybody else think? I'm especially curious this week, given that as I've been writing this review, several people on Twitter asked me if I agreed with them that this was one of the best "Community" episodes ever - which I'm not seeing at all, much as I enjoyed parts of it. What do you say? Instant classic or not?

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Alan Sepinwall has been reviewing television since the mid-'90s, first for Tony Soprano's hometown paper, The Star-Ledger, and now for HitFix. His new book, "The Revolution Was Televised," about the last 15 years of TV drama, is for sale at Amazon. He can be reached at sepinwall@hitfix.com

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    Alex T.

    As I said for the last episode, I just started watching Community two weeks ago and I'm really liking it and I'm renting the Dvd's. I loved the anime scene...great stuff!!!!

    December 1, 2011 at 11:11PM EST Reply to Comment
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      john If you're renting via a traditional source (brick and mortar shop), I highly recommend just getting the DVDs. Through Amazon you can get both seasons on DVD for $30 (S1 - $13, S2 - $17).

      December 1, 2011 at 11:20PM EST
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      pamelajaye if you are not planning to *keep* you might try your local library consortium. I requested them online and picked them up in the drive thru - but we are oddly modern here in FL. (sadly, you won't get thru 22 eps with 44 commentaries in a week.)

      December 1, 2011 at 11:28PM EST
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      Alex T. Wow thanks for the Amazon tip John!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:32PM EST
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      TheCuriosity You won't regret just buying it. Worth every penny. Once you fall in love, the commentaries are invaluable. They do one for every-single-episode.

      December 2, 2011 at 11:41AM EST
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      TheCuriosity Also, once you get past season 2, Todd over at avclub has an article (in length that would be appropriately described as long as a short novel) that goes through the trials and tribulations of every episode with the creator Dan Harmon. It is a really good read.

      December 2, 2011 at 11:44AM EST
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      Murph ^Do you have a link to that article, I would really like to read it.

      December 2, 2011 at 1:07PM EST
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      Cesar I think it's this: http://www.avclub.com/articles/dan-harmon-walks-us-through-communitys-second-seas,57085/

      December 2, 2011 at 4:40PM EST
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      Guest They also just put seasons 1 and 2 on Hulu if you have Hulu Plus.

      On an unrelated note, I won a charity auction allowing me to visit the set for a couple of days and be an extra. I'm flying out next week. I don't expect I'll get to see Allison and Gillian oil wrestling like Alan did, but it will undoubtedly be awesome anyway.

      December 2, 2011 at 5:01PM EST
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    John

    Anyone else notice that the dress Annie wore while she broke the DVD was the same dress she wore when she chloroformed that janitor? And that same sequence featured Annie and Troy crying hysterically?

    God, I loved the callbacks to past episodes in this one. The show will be missed :*(

    December 1, 2011 at 11:12PM EST Reply to Comment
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      William Not sure that was the same dress. Abed is definitely wearing the same t-shirt (Chicken Suds) as in the S2 Valentine's episode.

      Also - Troy continues to enjoy Abed's "favorite song," humming Michael Haggins - Daybreak twice during the episode. The way Donald Glover played Troy tonight, it almost seemed like he is in an uncomfortably powerless relationship with Abed. That is a clumsy way of saying "Troy" seems afraid to upset Abed in any way. (That could be indicative of many things besides "abuse," but that was what came to mind.)

      December 1, 2011 at 11:36PM EST
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      John My bad, it kinda looked like it in the moment. I also liked how they brought back that police guy from the Conspiracies episode.

      And great catch, with the Daybreak song!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:42PM EST
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      VisionOn Troy crying is never not funny and the hysterical interplay this episode between Troy and Annie was very funny. Alison Brie really earned the laughs with her expressions this episode.

      Abed as Batman was the weakest link but the rest of the episode added up to one of the most enjoyable "regular" episodes I can remember.

      The Pokemon sequence was an hilarious surprise given the tone of this episode.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:49PM EST
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      filaphresh OK, this is probably too late for people to comment, but Visionon called this a "regular" episode. For half the episode, though, I thought they were trying to do a "Very Special Episode." Abed said when he got the DVD that they were in for "a very special weekend," and it did seem like an '80s/'90s family sitcom where Jeff and Shirley learn about self-confidence and not bullying, while Annie learns the importance of not telling the truth. I got that vibe especially in the anime part where Shirley says, "You're a perfectly fine person," which could have come out in Full House right before everybody hugs. But then I said, "I guess not," because a very special episode is usually dealing with something big or controversial, like drugs or racism, but this was just more of a parody of sitcom cliches mixed with a "regular" episode.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:52PM EST
    • @Filaphresh: Bullying counts for a VSE. I must've seen tons of those.

      December 3, 2011 at 2:26PM EST
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      mark It could be the same dress! I noticed that Troy says, "Who.. are you?!" to Annie and I believe that was the chloroform incident

      December 4, 2011 at 7:10PM EST
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    pamelajaye

    my DVR has been frozen on that last youtube screen for so long, reading whoever-it-really-is's vanity card, I got confused and thought it really *was* my web browser*, and not a recording on the DVR.
    *my DVR is a computer and so it does have a web browser

    December 1, 2011 at 11:14PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Jon88 Leonard's Chuck-Lorre-esque vanity card was mostly funny for being not particularly funny. I do wonder if the last line of it (covered by the credits, alas) might have been a punch line.

      December 2, 2011 at 12:49AM EST
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      pamelajaye me too. come to think of it

      December 2, 2011 at 1:56PM EST
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    Razorback

    It's almost like you can't enjoy genius.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:15PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Lycro I think you're confusing "genius" with "the ability to make a live action version of Family Guy".

      December 2, 2011 at 8:08PM EST
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    ChrisC80

    I thought the Jeff Shirley story was fantastic. The anime scene was pretty classic. But it was the reveal that they'd known each other in childhood, and are both very responsible for who the other has become was unexpected, but very heartfelt.

    The Annie Troy Abed story on the other hand did very little for me. In fact I thought it brought the whole episode down at least a little.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:16PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Alex T. I definitely agree with you, I was much more interested in the Jeff Shirley story.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:18PM EST
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      jpotapoff You thought that the reveal that they'd known each other in childhood was unexpected? I thought that was a bigger cliche than the trying to replace a broken cherished item.

      December 2, 2011 at 1:21AM EST
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      Raphaella Skye Just because it's a cliche doesn't mean it was unexpected. They did a surprisingly good job with it.

      December 5, 2011 at 6:48PM EST
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      Raphaella Skye Uhm... I meant, just because it's a cliche doesn't mean it can't be unexpected.

      Dammit, edit button, where art thou.

      December 5, 2011 at 6:49PM EST
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    william

    This was pizza.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:16PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Jon Haha someone read the Dan Harmon av club run through

      December 1, 2011 at 11:56PM EST
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      William Yeah ... I find more use for Harmon-isms in my daily life than Community-isms. Less backstory needed.

      December 2, 2011 at 12:35AM EST
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    Brendan Noel

    The Abed as Batman story was maybe a little lacking (and it didn't really deviate from the last time we saw Abed as Batman), but I still think it was redeemed by Annie and Troy. Lines like Annie's Batman-impressioned "This scene was a challenge for all involved" and Troy's "Let's not leap to thing doing" were enough to make me remember this episode as one of Community's better outings.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:16PM EST Reply to Comment
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      hellsbellstrudy Yes I agree! Just the fact that they own $299 Dark Knight director’s cut with bonus footage, special commentary, and Christian Bale autograph, including a personalized message of up to 4 words reminded me why this show is amazing.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:46PM EST
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      Nathalie I was "meh" on it on my first viewing, but loved it on my second.

      I loved Troy's comment that Annie was supposed to tone he and Abed down. Also, the information that Troy got Abed a grappling hook for Christmas. And, as you said, the "let's not leap to thing doing" line was priceless. I really enjoyed the cop callback to Conspiracy Theories, too.

      All that being said, the Jeff/Shirley story was definitely the highlight.

      December 2, 2011 at 1:43AM EST
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      Crumdawg97 Between the weak Abed-Annie-Troy plot and Pierce & Britta being mostly absent, it certainly wasn't the greatest story episode. But I thought it was an absolutely tremendous episode on the Listen-Or-You'll-Miss-Another-Hilarious-One-Line scale.

      December 2, 2011 at 1:53PM EST
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    aaron_king

    one of the best ever? i dont see it or, frankly, understand what would put this episode above any others.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:17PM EST Reply to Comment
    • but it probably is due to my complete lack of interest in shirley as a character. It was nice that they used her, and I appreciate that. But it just makes for a less funny, less clever episode.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:19PM EST
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      pamelajaye I was happy in the TVGuide Cover BTS video when Yvette Nicole Brown acknowledged the Chuck fans (and happy Community won, cause Chuck doesn't need ratings anymore. Tweets from the cast/crew are getting to the tear soaked goodbyes stage and shooting ends 12/7)
      Very happy about the TV Guide cover except that no one reads TV Guide anymore and there is only one store around here where you can even buy it! (how the mighty have fallen)

      December 1, 2011 at 11:32PM EST
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      Narrim Chuck AND Supernatural, which won last year's. Also, the comment about people with Nielsen boxes being like unicorns and her additions to the Pudi/Brie freestyles ("Farts?") made her the highlight of the video. Great to have an amazing Shirley episode. It's been a long, long time.

      December 2, 2011 at 12:07PM EST
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      Narrim Chuck AND Supernatural, which won last year's. Also, the comment about people with Nielsen boxes being like unicorns and her additions to the Pudi/Brie freestyles ("Farts?") made her the highlight of the video. Great to have an amazing Shirley episode. It's been a long, long time.

      December 2, 2011 at 12:07PM EST
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      Liz PamelaJaye- well my partner and I each have a subscription and he was cranky because I got the better Community cover :)

      December 2, 2011 at 1:10PM EST
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      pamelajaye Liz, funny! Narrim, I meant to mention Superatural and somehow forgot.

      December 2, 2011 at 3:32PM EST
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    Roger

    I thought the Batman plot was not very original, but for me it was made brilliant by Alison Brie's acting. The look she gave Troy as she was crying and hugging Abed was one of the best moments I've seen on the show.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:17PM EST Reply to Comment
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      DonBoy I'd also like to note the 10-second long squeak she delivered at one point.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:21PM EST
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      mikerwilson Oh yea! I meant to mention that in my comment - that shriek was one of my favorite parts of any episode this season. Hilarious!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:32PM EST
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      ChampSkins Yea I actually enjoyed the Troy/Abed/Annie storyline a lot more. I just can't get enough Alison Brie. She can do no wrong.

      December 2, 2011 at 9:45AM EST
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      Derek I agree with Champs. Alison doing Bale and Annie in full on Panic mode is just too entertaining for me. Mix that with my own personal obsession with Batman and that storyline had my wife and I rolling. I can't count how many times we had to hit the 30 seconds backward button to hear the second half of jokes cuz we were laughing to much.

      The Jeff/Shirley stuff was great too but the highlight of that for me was Nick Kroll's ridiculous German persona.

      December 2, 2011 at 7:27PM EST
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    iamthegame13

    I loved this episode, and wasn't as down on the Annie/Abed storyline as Alan. The good parts of this episode, mainly every Jeff/Shirley interaction and the touching final shot are some of the things this show does better than any other comedy on TV right now.
    Also, another sitcom that did the "main characters knew each other from their past" that I though of was "Friends" when we found out that Phoebe bullied Ross as a kid and stole his homemade comic books

    December 1, 2011 at 11:18PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Tausif Khan I agree with you. I think partly the reason why I liked the Abed and Annie storyline is that it gave Abed a human moment to play and Annie is uptight so it felt like the story came from a tension their characters would have if something snapped in this case literally. While the writers didn't actually let Abed play that moment it was nice that Abed resolved it in a mature fashion with Annie. The irony being that he was in a Batman suit.

      I wonder if Abed has remaining feelings for Annie after Paintball last year. He said the persona leaves when the scenario is over but he has generally been sweet to Annie all along. Annie seems to be the closest to Abed next to Troy and it is really easy for me to see why he told her she should move in with them.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:26PM EST
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      Djf At the risk of being a shipper, did you notice the subtle softening of Annie's concerned look when Batman stroked her face?

      December 1, 2011 at 11:35PM EST
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      Tereglith @DJF That was a clever continuation of the really weird relationship Abed and Annie have, where they're only romantic towards each other when Abed is a character. It started with Don Draper, continued with the Elf Maiden, and has thus far climaxed with Han Solo, but it's nice to see they're keeping it up.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:52PM EST
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      John @DJF / @ TEREGLITH Agreed this was a continuation of the weird flirtations between Abed and Annie. It has more to do with Annie's issues, as Abed is just acting out the roles as he understands them.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:59PM EST
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      David Davidson I'm pretty sure the Batman face-stroking scene was only played for laughs. Interesting to see people taking it seriously though, I admit to not being much of a shipper (and AnniexAbed in my opinion is incredibly unlikely).

      December 3, 2011 at 2:22PM EST
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      amg Iamthegame13--Ross/Phoebe was immediately what came to my mind, and I was surprised I got this far in the comments without anyone else pointing that out. Especially since it even had the same dimension of finding out that the other character was responsible for a horribly traumatic childhood moment. Nice call.

      December 4, 2011 at 12:21AM EST
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    srpad

    I thought this was amazingly funny. And more importantly I think this would be a great episode to ease someone into the show. Just sitcommy enough to not be too off putting but at the usual level of Community quality and laughs.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:19PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Mike.g

    I thought the Batman story line was great. Maybe not an instant classic but a very strong episode.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:21PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Mike.g It's also worth adding that not every episode of a show like Community necessarily has to be groundbreaking or revolutionary. Cheers was one of the best sitcoms of all time, and it's strength wasn't playing to new conventions in every single episode but rather taking familiar conventions and maximizing their value. There's nothing wrong with Community taking a familiar convention and running with it. Yes, the Abed/Troy/Annie story wasn't all that original or fresh. But the writers ran with it, got their laughs out of it, and gave the episode a strong feel. I'd probably give this one a B+

      December 2, 2011 at 12:30PM EST
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    Tausif Khan

    I really liked the character combinations. I liked that Shirley as a character now grounded in reality. I thought that Shirley was going to end up playing the Eamon Walker character from Lights Out but it actually humanized her and explained why she is the way she is and gave her a flaw that made her human.

    I am a sucker for any episode that puts Annie Troy and Abed together. If Britta was with them it would be even better.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:21PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Pennywise

    I thought this episode was really good, primarily for the Jeff/Shirley plotline. The Annie/Abed/Troy one was fine for this show. It's still probably significantly better than something another sitcom would put together, largely because of the performances by the three actors.

    But I really loved what they did with Jeff and Shirley because it was so real, and it made such sense given all that we know about the two of them. They're both very damaged people who put on a front and getting a bit more detail on the origin of their neuroses made them very real. And given how frequently Shirley is written as a one- or two-note character, this was really necessary in my opinion. Added bonus, Joel McHale and Yvette Nicole Brown were just lovely together.

    It's also just really nice to see that the show is still extremely capable of doing a fairly basic story without a big gimmick.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:21PM EST Reply to Comment
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      MC I totally agree. It was a wonderful moment when they both realized that they were "a perfectly fine person" without all the walls and affectations. Shirley desperately needed to be given some depth and this was a wonderful story for her.

      Plus, if this was the first time someone tuned in, I think it was very accessible and still very funny.

      December 2, 2011 at 2:16AM EST
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    Abed Is Batman

    Maybe we are looking through rose colored glasses now that we now that the "hiatus" or whatever is about to happen, but I thought this episode was awesome. I thought the pairing of Jeff & Shirley was amazing. I think sometimes Community fans are really hungry for a less "concept" type episode and this one was knee deep in the relationships. I think the Foosball story was the one that worked well but it worked so well that it overcame any deficiencies in the other story. We were ready for a really sweet ending too and we got one.

    In my mind, "Foosball" is an instant classic. I miss them already. And yes, Abed is Batman.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:23PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Dr. Gross

    Definitely not one of my all time favorite Community episodes. But the quick, unexpected cut to the anime portion was one of my all time favorite Community moments.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:23PM EST Reply to Comment
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    ed w

    This was a fantastic episode, that wholly worked for me. It's the kind of episode that in the first half of season 1, this was how I expected the series to be a season or two later, rather than the theme episodes and gimmicks (which are sometimes good - I loved the recent Halloween one). Just all around well done this week.

    The guy who played the lead (dark haired) deutsch-bag seemed very familiar.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:24PM EST Reply to Comment
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      ed w He was The Douche on Parks. Answered my own question. ;)

      December 1, 2011 at 11:46PM EST
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      jcpdiesel21 It's comedian Nick Kroll, who is also on FX's The League. I loved his guest appearance in this episode!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:53PM EST
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      Pennywise I wonder if Nick Kroll enjoys being typecast this way...

      December 2, 2011 at 8:35AM EST
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      Rob Between Community and Ruxin on pain killers, last night was a tour de force for Nick! I also also loved it when he said, "Let's dance David Bowie"!

      December 2, 2011 at 8:12PM EST
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    pamelajaye

    not an instant classic and I was hoping we'd escape from animation Really Soon

    Forgot the schadenfreude!
    I did not look up where I know Nick Kroll from, but I was just watching a season 1 Covert Affairs with Oded Fehr ($MiddleEasternMale) and thinking Christopher Gorham can't stay out of the CIA, there are too many blonde spies named Walker, and Chuck is so much easier to watch. (I"m blaming this side trip on Nick Kroll and his accent)

    December 1, 2011 at 11:25PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Liz I know him mostly from his stints on Best Week Ever, including the one season it was actually funny and the three others it was painfully trying to be funny.

      December 2, 2011 at 1:14PM EST
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    Andy

    I wouldn't say best ever, but I really liked this episode. While the Annie Abed storyline wasn't timeless or anything I thought it was pretty good, especially with lines such as "Let's not leap to thing-doing" Foosball was pretty great.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:25PM EST Reply to Comment
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    rod_lai

    My short term memory is really terrible, but I definitely liked this episode for some strong jokes, but also a good number of callbacks to past jokes. Unfortunately I can't remember any besides "The stakes have never been higher" and "Shut up Leonard." I know it seems trivial or silly to some people, but as a fan it's a reassurance that the writers remember how to be true to the show even though it is constantly adapting and evolving.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:26PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Jeff G

    I would consider this episode as above average when compared to other Community episodes - which means I thought it was miles beyond most other network comedies. The foosball storyline was fantastic and yet again had me laughing out loud (which I generally don't do when watching TV). Abed as Batman never gets old and that story had some funny parts despite not being all that original.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:26PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Hannah Lee "...miles beyond..."

      It that the new "streets ahead"?

      December 2, 2011 at 1:30PM EST
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    CoolHand719

    I do think it was one of the most solid episodes they have ever done. With Shirley and Jeff, it allowed for greater insight into two characters, while also building their relationship. They also used the anime gimmick just the right amount and to great effect. It was equal measures dark (Big Cheese creating Tinseltown was harsh) and sweet (Them as kids walking off to the movies together. Yes, the Dark Knight plot was a sitcom trope, but dropping these characters into that trope and allowing them to get weird (Abed's costume, Troy's mania, Annie's voice finding new heights, women's shoes, etc.) made it feel fresh to me. For a sitcom to last, it will have to use these fallback storylines from time to time, but the ability to keep these characters fresh and funny inside those storylines is key. And yes, it was damn funny. So in sum, it was all the things I like about Community, in just the right amounts.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:26PM EST Reply to Comment
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    thefncrow

    One of my favorite little weird things is that when Abed breaks in on their landlord, the landlord's watching Quantum Leap porn.

    "Sam, Ziggy says there's an 80% chance you can't leave Woodstock until you bang these hippies!"

    December 1, 2011 at 11:27PM EST Reply to Comment
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      mikerwilson Wow, great catch.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:34PM EST
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      pamelajaye oh dear! now I have to go watch it again! how did I miss that?

      December 1, 2011 at 11:38PM EST
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      pamelajaye and as a result of the fact that I wasn't kidding (love me DVR) I'd like to add that I loved the joke about Britta's cell phone. (mine is 8 years old but it's a lot smaller than the Totarola!)

      December 1, 2011 at 11:43PM EST
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      pamelajaye never noticed how 70's Troy & Abed's kitchen is. Reminds me of Interior Desecrations -and I have some of the decorating books that website's photos came from!

      December 1, 2011 at 11:46PM EST
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      pamelajaye Wow! (skipped ahead) how did I miss that??? (and it was "bone", btw)
      Still trying to figure out how I missed it.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:54PM EST
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    Dino

    Gotta say, I think it's an instant classic. I thought the whole thing worked wonderfully.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:27PM EST Reply to Comment
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    joelwhyrock

    I agree with your take on both stories. The Jeff and Shirley story was slightly predictable but still rewarding and the Annie/Troy/Abed story was a nice change of pace on an old sitcom trope but remained somewhat tired. I thought it was a middle-of-the-road episode really. It's certainly nowhere near the Remedial Chaos Theory level this season. I even think the Model UN episode and Documentary Filmmaking Redux were better than this.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:28PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Jason

    I enjoyed the episode as a whole and agree that the Jeff/Shirley story was stronger than the Annie/Abed/Troy story. Though I did like that we saw Abed bumbling a bit in his Batman costume which is something Abed isn't prone to doing (though I suppose that behavior from his type of character is probably somewhat of a sitcom cliche as well)

    I wouldn't call it an instant classic, but thought it was well done and had a couple memorable moments. Also, I think this was an episode that a casual viewer could probably jump into and enjoy without knowing too much about the show. Of course at this point that may not matter.

    Is there a director's commentary available for The Dark Knight?

    December 1, 2011 at 11:28PM EST Reply to Comment
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      jakelanier Good catch, Jason. I was curious if anyone else caught Abed bumbling several times. It was completely opposite of his character.

      December 2, 2011 at 11:31AM EST
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      Liz But they did the same with the Cape- I love that they recognize Abed really is just Abed and no matter how amazing he can get into character, he's just not a stuntman or superhero- and that it doesn't matter to the realness in Abeds head!

      December 2, 2011 at 1:16PM EST
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    noclist

    Not best ever, but I liked it quite a bit. Really loved the Foozball gang using the soccer ball as a human foozball prop.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:28PM EST Reply to Comment
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    mikerwilson

    I thought this was an instant classic. The anime stuff was incredible - I couldn't believe they were actually doing that but loved every second of it. bringing in the cat for the "oh no!" scene at the end of the animated part had me in stitches. This was something the show should have done a long time ago - it helps flesh out the Shirley character a lot more. I feel like she's always gotten the short end of the stick with characterization, so this was very welcome. Like Jeff said, when she's mean, I actually like her a lot more.

    I actually loved the Annie-Abed-Troy storyline. Yes it was silly and played on a trope, but I thought the comedy notes were brilliant. Annie trying the Bale voiceover twice killed me. Abed as Batman is always great, but his line about dancing on a grave as he exited the window was so brilliant I had to place it three times. The shoes in the closet were a nice kicker. Plus Annie being a little on the dark side is always enjoyable. Troy's reaction when she dropped down the broken blu-ray was priceless. No, not the most genre-shattering storyline, but not every Community story has to be, and this one was still very enjoyable in its own right.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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      mikerwilson "had to place it three times" = "had to play it three times"

      December 1, 2011 at 11:35PM EST
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      mikerwilson Classic:

      Abed Batman: If that were true, you would have come forward a long time ago. You're lying to keep me out of danger. But there can be no peace while crime spits and dances on the grave of justice, to the hot beats and infectious rhythms of all that is wrong.

      December 2, 2011 at 10:58AM EST
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    eric_balsam

    I feel like this season of Community has no direction. I always felt that their was some common element in season 1 and season 2 that bridged the episodes together, even with the non-standard episodes sprinkled in between. Something about this season seems contrived, like its trying to hard to create story lines that don't exist, and as a result, I feel like the reality of these 7 people going to community college is disappearing. The office did this as well, where the characters are essentially the entire show, we rarely see them interact in public anymore or with any outside characters.

    I still enjoy Community though and find it mostly funny.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:32PM EST Reply to Comment
    • This season has MORE direction than the last two, not less.

      Also, what do you mean by "creating storylines that don't exist"?

      December 2, 2011 at 10:30AM EST
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      Mahmoud Fayed "I always felt that their was some common element in season 1 and season 2 that bridged the episodes together"

      Care to actually point out what was this common element that bridged the earlier seasons' episodes together?

      December 3, 2011 at 9:38PM EST
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    Scott Rosenberg

    It was a fairly standard-fair bottle episode, and while it does reveal how much dead weight the show has (no Chang and Pelton, ten seconds of Piers, Check. Still funny, check) I found it to be decent by Community standards, which is still above-average by sitcom standards generally.

    Obviously, the highlight was drawing the most character out of Shirley the show has managed thus far. I was bothered a bit by the B-plot, not because it was cliched, but because it seemed a bit lazy. Abed's Batman and the cop bringing back fond memories from "Conspiracy Theories and Interior Design" will always be funny, but it felt wasted here. Additionally, there's a difference between naive and stupid, and Troy was clearly turned into the latter. There were funny moments mixed in, but it still felt like the past few seasons of HIMYM, where the characters weren't as sharp and the writers need to reach back into the greatest hits bag just to create the feel of quality. Community is both a smarter and newer show, and the sense it gave of a struggle to find the funny left me disconcerted.

    Not the best or worst episode of the season, and perhaps even above average for a bottle episode.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:32PM EST Reply to Comment
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      mikerwilson This wasn't a bottle episode. A bottle episode = one set.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:36PM EST
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      sepinwall No, a bottle episode just means an episode taking place entirely on pre-existing sets. Star Trek did them all the time, but it wasn't like those episodes were confined to the bridge; it just meant that all the action was on the Enterprise and nobody beamed down to a planet.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:47PM EST
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      MC So this wasn't a bottle episode, unless I've missed the YMCA set before. And I'm not really sure where anime fits, either. lol

      December 2, 2011 at 1:39AM EST
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      Scott Rosenberg Show's what I know...after encountering the term in our discussions of "Contemporary Calligraphy" (?), I took it to mean an episode with self-contained plot and independent of broader arcs other than just who the characters are at that point in time. I suppose the two often overlap, but...this was clearly not a bottle episode by the correct definition. My bad.

      December 2, 2011 at 1:40AM EST
    • Well, the YMCA looked an awful lot like the rec center with a couple of video game machines rolled in.

      December 2, 2011 at 8:46AM EST
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      mikerwilson I retract my statement re: 1 set with sheepish embarrassment. Had Contemporary Calligraphy in mind as the prototypical bottle episode.

      December 2, 2011 at 10:38AM EST
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      Mike Considering that they probably spent all their location money on the animation, does this still qualify as a bottle show?

      December 2, 2011 at 11:02AM EST
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      sepinwall @mikerwilson, sometimes bottle episodes do take place on a single set, and it can be a new set if that's where most of the action takes place. When you see a show do an episode where several characters end up on jury duty, that's almost always a bottle show.

      December 2, 2011 at 11:19AM EST
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