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Comic-Con 2011: 'Community' blows the roof off again

Where will season 3 find Pierce, Jeff and the rest?

Comic-Con 2011: 'Community' blows the roof off again
The "Community" cast (minus Alison Brie) returned to Comic-Con.
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For the second year in a row, "Community" took over the Indigo Ballroom(*) at Comic-Con and provided a raucous, risque, multi-media love-fest between the show's actors, creator Dan Harmon and the fans.

(*) One of the stories of this Con has been how badly Con organizers underestimated demand for TV panels and overestimated movie demand. After filling the Indigo to capacity last year, "Community" was absolutely due for an upgrade to at least a mid-sized room in the main convention center, if not Ballroom 20, and many fans were turned away.

The panel opened with a hip-hop remix of various scenes and bits of dialogue from season 2 (the Magnitude/Leonard debate remix was epic) that whipped the room into a frenzy even before moderator Michael Schneider led them in a "Pop pop!" call-and-response and the cast bounded on stage, one-by-one, soaking in the applause.

Q&A began with discussion of Pierce's bad behavior last season and his decision to leave the group in the finale.

"People had said that Pierce's character got so dark that they wondered why anyone would hang out with him," Harmon acknowledged. "So while I like his backbone and his tooth, I wanted to address that story. We're going to address that now. By the time we're done, you'll know why they'll hang out with Pierce."

Alison Brie (who's filming a movie) was the lone absent castmember - and the panel included newly-promoted regular Jim Rash - so it was left to Danny Pudi to discuss the Abed/Annie kiss from the season finale, which he shrugged off as Abed playing up "the Han Solo heroic moment."

Pudi and Donald Glover noted the orange paint they were all drenched with in that scene, and said they're not sure if it was toxic.

"We were told they weren't really sure," recalled Glover. "They said, 'Oh, it's the stuff kids paint with.' So we said, 'Oh, it's not toxic?' 'We didn't say that!'"

There was then various discussion of other past, future and potential romantic/sexual combinations - "When I was pitching the show, we had to make sure there was a chance of everyone on the show getting together," Harmon said - including some debate over whether it's sad that Chang wasn't the father of Shirley's baby.

"His family has tails, everyone!" insisted Yvette Nicole Brown.

"Being a father in real life, I'm so glad Ben Chang is not the father of any baby," said Ken Jeong. "The last thing he should f---ing do is be the father of a baby. But it's so fun playing this character going to these demonic depths of pathetic-ness."

Chang was in a position of power in season 1, and great weakness in season 2, and Harmon said season 3 would be a mix, because, "I always wanted to see what happened if Gollum did get the Ring and got to keep it. An empowered Chang is a funnier campus, I think."

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Harmon explained the decision to cast "The Wire" alum (and "Boardwalk Empire" co-star) Michael Kenneth Williams as the study group's new biology teacher as being part of his ongoing campaign to win over new viewers.

"It is what it seems like," he said. "I want to add a layer of intensity to 'Community.' If the show's ever been too weird to attract new viewers, you can add water to have less flavor and hope it threatens less people, or you can threaten the hell out of everyone with the kind of intensity and flavor that people will get tired of pretending isn't awesome... If we're too cartoonish sometimes, then let's add the opposite of cartoonish. Let's add a little element of 'The Wire' to 'Community.'"

Harmon said the writers were at work on the show's latest Halloween episode, and seemed ambivalent about the idea of doing another paintball episode, even while acknowledging, "I get the feeling there are people in this room who would get mad at us if we didn't do one."

The actors were asked to list their favorite moments from the past season:

• Glover first chose Troy's birthday, but later switched to Troy meeting LeVar Burton in the documentary episode.

• Pudi enjoyed the Dungeons & Dragons episode from a group standpoint, and Abed and Jeff in "My Dinner with Andre" as a personal highlight. ("I got to give a speech, two pages of dialogue, about pooping my pants on the set of 'Cougar Town,' and I can't believe I got to do that.")

• Gillian Jacobs liked both the animated tag about Dean Pelton and also the episode where Britta dated the Eastern European war criminal and sang that terrible "Hit Me With Your Genie's Bottle" song.

• Brown loved the flashback episode, while Joel McHale rattled off a list: Shirley's photographs in the Troy's birthday episode, Troy about to be shot by dozens of paintball guns in the finale, Jeff and Britta role-playing in the documentary episode, Chang breaking Jeff's lamp with his nunchuks, "and also Chevy's performance in the Dungeons & Dragons episode, that was pure genius."

• Rash enjoyed the climax of the conspiracy theory episode, mainly because "I realized I have no ability to really die appropriately. My fall was terrible. I was like, what happened?"

• Chevy Chase went with Pierce's painkiller-induced fantasies with Andy Dick, and also Jeff pulling Pierce out of the car to beat him up, while Jeong said he cried at the end of the stop-motion animated Christmas episode.

During the audience Q&A, Harmon talked about wanting to expand the universe of the show even more - this time wanting to meet the study group's families - so that the show could survive if it theoretically gets past a fourth season and characters like Jeff start to graduate Greendale.

"All I know is there is a 4-year story that we promised in the pilot," he explained. "He either has to get his bachelor's degree or not get it. It would be unfair and gross in the fourth season to go, 'What? These credits don't count? I'll have to grow a beard and teach here!' No one's going to high-five me for that... I have to tell that story."

Rash's favorite Dean Pelton outfit was probably the Tina Turner look, and he felt especially self-conscious wearing his "sister's" 4th of July costume, because that episode featured him acting in front of a large group of extras: "You inevitably see people whispering and/or pointing."

Glover's rap alter ego Childish Gambino(**) came up, and he explained his next album would come out sometime in September or October, and that "Community" composer Ludwig Goransson, who also works on the Gambino albums, had worked a few Gambino beats into various musical bits on the show.

(**) I got to see Glover's Gambino show at the House of Blues last night, and it was fantastic. High-energy, and one of the "Community" actors later marveled that within a year, Glover had gone from "Oh, you also rap?" to someone whose concerts are packed with fans who know every word to the songs and sing along. This isn't like a novelty gig; if he wasn't known for "Community," or his stand-up, or his writing, and just had a rap career, he'd be totally credible. (Though he wouldn't have the platform to promote himself.) Very impressive.

Finally, another question for each panelist: if their characters came to Comic-Con, what costume would they wear?

• Glover: "I would dress up as Spider-Man, I don't know about Troy. Troy would do whatever Abed. We'd probably be Mario and Luigi."

• Pudi: "Or Ren and Stimpy. I would like to be the Flash."

• Jacobs: "Does Daria count?"

• Brown: "Yoda all day long."

• McHale: "I'd be copying someone because I saw it today: a really crappy-looking Ghostbuster. He didn't even try. He just had a backpack with a vacuum attachment."

• Rash: "I think the Dean would just bring a variety of costumes, mostly thinking it might be a furry convention." (Harmon suggested that Pelton would be "a Sailor Moon type.")

• Chase: "I don't know what to say! Pierce is so fuckin' dumb. I ain't got no answer."

• Jeong: "Since it's making a comeback now, Beavis or Butthead, I think."

The "Community" third season premiere is September 22; the season 2 DVD (with commentaries on every episode, multiple featurettes, bloopers, more of Harmon's cast evaluations, etc.) comes out on September 6.

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    anthony_c_reyes

    surprised any fans are able to get into the ballroom at all...not just media and "people with connection"

    July 23, 2011 at 6:25PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Todd VanDerWerff I am a person in the media with connections, and I was unable to get in and didn't even try. The line for Hall H was but 20 people deep, though, at the exact same time.

      July 23, 2011 at 6:33PM EST
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      Becky H. I couldn't get in either. It sucks. Why didn't they move it to a bigger venue? It was packed last year so you'd think the Comic Con organizers would've figured there'd be a bunch more people this time around. :(

      July 23, 2011 at 10:56PM EST
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      pete wilson Damn, Vanderwerff couldn't get into the Community panel? What is this world coming to?

      July 24, 2011 at 1:38PM EST


  • Does that means its now "tv con" and not "movie con" anymore?

    July 23, 2011 at 6:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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    tyler

    Alan censors fuck the first time, but not the second. This is a family website, Alan! (Podcast joke)

    July 23, 2011 at 6:41PM EST Reply to Comment
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    srpad

    No chance of a Blu Ray release huh?

    July 23, 2011 at 6:52PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Ben

    It sounds like Chevy was much less of an interfering, obnoxious jackass than he usually is when Dan Harmon & the cast gather for a forum. Is that true?

    July 23, 2011 at 8:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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      sepinwall Yes, Chevy was a bit more subdued than last time. There was still some of him stepping over other people's answers, but less than the year before. And at one point he even talked about how much he missed the rest of the cast this summer and how much he looked forward to working with them again.

      July 23, 2011 at 8:43PM EST
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    Mike

    Going into today, I'd definitely have said that the paintball episode format has run it's course, but on the other hand, it would be really unfortunate to not once see Omar Little with a paint shotgun.

    July 23, 2011 at 8:56PM EST Reply to Comment
    • Agreed.

      July 23, 2011 at 10:37PM EST
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      tossit Omar on a paintball episode would make me so happy.

      July 24, 2011 at 1:23AM EST
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      Nobody of any consequence Indeed

      July 25, 2011 at 2:08PM EST
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    downbound

    As far as graduating in four years, the great thing about community college is that there are no such standards. I usually hate it when kids graduate high school and go to the college across the street or just stay in college to keep the show going, but it's perfectly reasonable to think that the study group got so caught up in their shenanigans, they ended up only taking two years worth of classes in four years. Or maybe, a bachelor's degree at Greendale is only worth an associate's degree in the real world.

    July 23, 2011 at 10:50PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Becky H. Aren't they all just part-time students? How could they not be? Troy and Abed are the only characters who might be more 'traditional' students - still young with parents who financially support them. The rest have to pay rent for themselves and etc...

      July 23, 2011 at 11:05PM EST
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    Michaela

    Speaking as someone who got boned out of seeing the panel (again -- missed last year too), do you know if SDCC is the sole arbiter of who goes in what room, or if there is money involved somehow (money movie studios have and TV shows don't)?

    July 24, 2011 at 12:26AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Sandy

    I got in line at 10:30 AM for the "Community" panel and at 11:30, one of the staff came out and told us that our chances of getting into the 1:00 panel were "slim to none." The best part was when he recommended that we "get there at 10:00 next year" and maybe we'll get in. Frustrating. Glad that you got to see it, Alan.

    July 24, 2011 at 12:29AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Russ Nope.. you need to get in line before 9am, and if possible before 8am and if possible before 7am. If you really want it, get there super early, bring some water, a book, a game or good conversation then sit through the 2 or 3 panels before and enjoy.

      July 25, 2011 at 11:19AM EST
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    Daggor

    Glad to see that Rash is a cast member now - his performance is infinitely funnier than jeong's. I was loving the evil Chevy this past year. I want MORE of it - not to have the characters deal with it. Ditto with the 4-year premise. Just keep it going as long as you can. I don't want the characters to grow and change. Keep them where they are.

    July 24, 2011 at 2:46AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Kal

    Literally every Childish Gambino song ever is "I have sex, I make money, nerdy reference, I have sex, I make money" rinse and repeat. He would be nothing without Community.

    July 24, 2011 at 8:38PM EST Reply to Comment
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      That Guy Childish does it with such flare though and a good beat it works. The lyrics are fun, but not as important as the sound of the entire thing. He's also got a lot of angst built up so it's odd to see him as Troy or Donald.

      I'd certainly listen to him without Community, and I know people who do already.

      July 24, 2011 at 9:42PM EST
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    Russ

    POP POP!! Someone needs to post the kick off video that they played. That was awesome!

    July 25, 2011 at 1:30AM EST Reply to Comment
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