As further proof that serendipity is steering this chronicle, FOX decided to air a dreadful little comedy called "The Benchwarmers" on the eve of the posting of No. 2 on my list of TV's
Best of the Decade.
Released in 2006, "The Benchwarmers" is every bit as bad as you'd assume that a movie starring Rob Schneider, David Spade and Jon Heder would be and, at times, it's actually a bit worse.
Now in "The Benchwarmers," the villain is the script. Wait. No. Let me start over again. In "The Benchwarmers," the villain is an obnoxious overgrown frat boy named Jerry. And Jerry is played by Craig Kilborn.
Kilborn is predictably smug and sarcastic, but he's no worse than anything else in the film and no worse than he was playing similar character types in "Old School," which many people quite enjoy, and "The Shaggy Dog," which nobody enjoyed, at least not in its Tim Allen incarnation.
As I passed by "The Benchwarmers" and continued hastily across the dial (sadly, I'd actually seen the movie previously and thus didn't need to relive it), this nightmare scenario arose in my brain:
It's March 20, 2003. American (and a small assortment of international) forces have just begun their campaign of "shock and awe" against the Iraqi military. The country has effectively begun a war against a foreign nation that never attacked us on the basis of what would turn out to be faulty and sometimes fraudulent intelligence. The politics are neither here nor there, though. Let's just leave it as this: We're at war. Again.
Having watched hours of coverage on CNN, heard the opinions from the talking heads and tried making sense of the night-vision footage from the Middle East, you turn to your favorite fake news show to get a spin on the events at hand. You turn to
Comedy Central. You turn to "
The Daily Show."
And there... providing your regular dose of humor and relief in this stressful time... is Mr. Craig Kilborn.
[I will, though, write more words. Worry not. After the break...]
An assortment of social thinkers -- including Joseph de Maistre and Alexis de Tocqueville -- are credited with the observation that "The people get the government they deserve." No great social thinker has ever been credited with the observation that the people also get "The Daily Show" they deserve, or at least the "Daily Show" they require.
I may have begun this essay by mocking Craig Kilborn, but that shouldn't be taken to mean that "The Daily Show with Craig Kilborn" was not a good show. It was glib and snarky and mostly politically unengaged, but it was also funny and I still miss the "Five Questions" segment that Kilborn took with him upon his departure.
"The Daily Show" with Craig Kilborn was the perfect "Daily Show" for the two years that it ran, beginning in 1996. Kilborn's low-impact brand of humor was aces for the middle years of the Bill Clinton administration, when the economy was strong and Clinton was a beloved president first and an occasional easy punchline second.
I would say "It's no coincidence that Craig Kilborn's run as 'Daily Show' host ended on Dec. 17, 1998, just two days before Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives," but that would be a lie.
It was a complete and total coincidence that Kilborn left to go replace Tom Snyder on "The Late Late Show" at what could be seen as an easy transition point for topical humor. But it was a nice coincidence.
The first episode of the rechristened "Daily Show with Jon Stewart" aired on Jan. 11, 1999. The changeover in substance came quickly. Suddenly, the opening monologue became a discussion of the day's news and information, rather than a "Weekend Update"-style zip through headlines serious and frivolous alike. In the Kilborn years, the remote segments were usually "Mock the yokels" investigations of the silly and mundane, but under Stewart the "Mock the yokels" pieces seemed to have more of an edge, trying to find a different angle beyond "People in small towns are superstitious and stupid." The changeover wasn't instantaneous, but it was fast enough.
Both because it impacts the timing of this article and because it's true, it's best to say that "
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" hit its stride during the 2000 election, both in primary and convention coverage, but even moreso in the handling over the election and its increasingly ridiculous aftermath. The series had already dubbed that coverage "Indecision 2000" before the national indecision (or Florida's indecision) became the focus of everybody's coverage. It was just the first of many times in the decade that the show that was meant to be mocking and echoing the legitimate news gathering organizations found itself ahead-of-the-curve on the tone of the news, if not the news itself.
How would Craig Kilborn's "Daily Show" have covered the 2000 election debacle? Fortunately we never needed to know, but it's just my casual hunch that whatever they did wouldn't have earned a Peabody Award.
It turned out that what the Aughts required was a serious Fake Newsman, the Edward R. Murrow of Fake Newsmen, the Walter Cronkite of Fake Anchors. We needed a "Daily Show" host who was utterly sincere in his fraudulence and completely trustworthy in his prevarications. In Stewart, the show got those attributes and more. Because that's what the decade required, Comedy Central also got a younger, more Jewish Howard Beale. And at times in the Aughts, we really just needed somebody to get mad as hell, which Jon Stewart was more than willing to do.
Most decades probably have roughly the same number of news-gathering days (varied slightly be the number of Leap Years, I guess), but the Aughts felt like possibly the Newsiest Decade Ever (tm). Part of that stems from a proliferation of news regurgitating apparatuses unequalled in human history. But it's also just possible that a lot of stuff happened.
We began with the 2000 election and its subsequent chaos. We had a war being staged on two fronts. There was a 2004 election that was heated and contentious, even if the results were properly determined on election night. We had an economic downturn, epic corporate malfeasance and the fall-out from the protracted nature of those two wars. We had a 2008 election that featured both historic primaries, but then an unprecedented election and then we've had a year of fall-out and increased frustration and rancor in the aftermath of that election. And "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" treated each of those events with increased legitimacy and with a grouping news-gathering operation.
I didn't mention it in the timeline, but 9/11/01 was the defining event of the decade. It wasn't an event that lent itself to humor, but it turned out to be an event that lent itself to Stewart and his strengths. "The Daily Show" returned on September 20, 2001 and Stewart's opening monologue was, for me at least, the great entertainment reaction to a tragedy that left the entire nation unsure how to respond. He wasn't the first to do it, but he might have been the best. It's only 9-minutes and I could write a whole addition essay just on that, it's so honest and forthright. Like the 2000 election, it was another instance where people realized that "The Daily Show" didn't need to only be a comedy series.
There was a year that the Television Critics Association gave "The Daily Show" our prize for News & Information, an award usually given to things like "Frontline" and "60 Minutes." Stewart couldn't make the awards presentation, but he sent in a taped message chiding us and reminding us that "The Daily Show" is a fake news show. During the 2004 and 2008 elections, could you really tell the difference? "The Daily Show" had people on the ground in every state conducting polls and interviews, while each of the candidates had to sit opposite Stewart at some point, some multiple times. The show itself may have been fake, but the news being generated on "The Daily Show" was every bit as real and substantive as what CNN and Fox News were doing, though you could take that as an indictment on the more legitimate news agencies, but why would you need to? Just because Stephen Colbert and Steve Carell weren't technically real journalists and just because they were technically playing roles, the interviews they got and the field reports they filed offered more insight than what jaded correspondents with 20 years experience were sending back.
The media started to report on statistics suggesting that for more and more young viewers, "The Daily Show" was becoming a primary news source, rather than a secondary interpretive news source. This outraged newspapers and network anchors clinging to their legitimacy, but it also outraged Stewart and the "Daily Show" team, who were just as determinedly clinging to their illegitimacy. You can't mock The Man if you've become The Man yourself.
Perhaps that's why, in the aftermath of Obama's election, "The Daily Show" has slipped more and more into a mode of critiquing other news organizations, rather than necessarily focusing on the news so completely. It's a greater differentiator if "The Daily Show" is mostly a watchdog for Fox News and CNBC and MSNBC (and occasionally CNN) than if the show is out trying to crack the same news. And as media watchdog, "The Daily Show" has begun to enact its own tangible change, even earning an entirely empty apology from Fox News after catching the network in an editing fabrication earlier this fall. Stewart's crusades against shoddy journalism have become increasingly angry and have spawned some of the show's most devastating research work, compiling elaborate montages of deception. In presenting these lethal clip packages, Stewart can almost be the straight man many nights, just raising an eyebrow and letting reality speak for itself. That's been one of Stewart's greatest strengths, letting the news damn the news.
Much has been made over the years of Stewart and the show's liberal bias, as if that were somehow relevant. If Fox News can claim that 75 percent of its programming isn't actually news and therefore isn't required to adhere to any standards of objectivity, it's hard to know who would expect objectivity from comedy. Also, complaining that "The Daily Show" has a liberal bias is so clearly missing the point of Stewart's persona and what he's achieved on the show.
Stewart's bias has certainly been ideological, but it has never been political. For eight years while the Republicans dominated the White House and, for the most part, both Houses of Congress, Stewart's targets were frequently on the right, because speaking truth to power is more entertaining than mocking the class runts, which is what the Democrats were through much of the decade. But he's almost always focused on political hypocrisies from the Right, rather than policies. There's a reason why folks like Bob Dole and John McCain and even Mike Huckabee have never feared appearances on "The Daily Show": If you actually mean what you say and follow through on it with humanity, humility and ethics, "The Daily Show" wouldn't really pick on you. Stewart is a pragmatist and an idealist in that respect. He wants people in power to live up to the best versions of themselves. So that meant that in the 2004 election, when the Democrats decided to take it upon themselves to destroy what ought to have been a winnable election, Stewart was far harsher on them than on the Republicans. He's been harsher on the Democrats in the recent health care cop-out and he was hardly a cheerleader amidst the left wing toothlessness at the end of the Bush Administration. So yes, Jon Stewart is probably a crazy lefty, but he's also issued more thoughtful and substantive critiques of the Democrats than Bill O'Reilly, Glen Beck and Dennis Miller put together. That nobody at Fox News has been watching "The Daily Show" and plagiarizing Stewart for a decade is their loss.
Jon Stewart and "The Daily Show" have become an indispensable part of the decade's discourse, but I get that I'm not really praising "The Daily Show" in total here. This position on my list is, largely, a celebration of the first segment or two of each night's "The Daily Show," maybe not the whole half-hour show.
I mentioned that conservatives like Dole, McCain and Huckabee have been regular guests because they know Stewart applauds straight-shooting, but they've also felt safe because they know Stewart still isn't a great interviewer. He's a lot better than he was. It used to be excruciating watching Stewart whenever he scored a rare A-list guest, as he went from a funnier Edward R. Murrow in the opening segment to a less funny, but equally obsequious Larry King in the interview. To this day, Stewart remains an excessively gentle and coddling interrogator to the bigger names, but he's become better at positioning his softball questions in a way that lets the subjects feel comfortable and, as a result, he's begun to get different sides of their personalities to come out. Every once in a while, though, Stewart gets a guest he wants to grill and in those instances, he forgets that he's supposed to occasionally let the other person speak. Many in the media loved Stewart's take-down of CNBC's clown prince Jim Cramer, but that "interview" amounted to little more than a 22-minute browbeating and while Stewart said things that many of us wished we had said, Cramer contributed little to his own demise. So is it OK that I love "The Daily Show" but tend to turn off many of the interviews mid-way through? I obviously think it is.
But include the field segments and filmed pits in the "Plus" column for "The Daily Show." Over the decade, the show has become at least as much of a comedy pipeline for television as the movies as "Saturday Night Live." In addition to Carell and Colbert, the show's two most powerful veterans, The show has filtered comics like Ed Helms, Lewis Black, John Oliver, Demetri Martin and Rob Corddry into the mainstream.
Actually, with "The Colbert Report," "The Daily Show" unleashed a spin-off which, at times, outstripped the original. Colbert's persona initially seemed ill-tailored for a long-term run, but that show's writers have done an amazing job of keeping the character relevant from the end of the Bush years and into the Obama years. I've cast multiple TCA Awards votes for Colbert over the years and "The Colbert Report" came very close to making this list on its own, but I eventually decided that I would give special mention to it here.
In closing, I just want to return to what I already said about "Pardon the Interruption." When something in sports happened in the decade, I wanted to know what Tony and Michael were going to say about it. When something happened in America (and in the world) in the decade, I wanted to know what "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" was going to say.
That, to me, is ample reason to have "The Daily Show" at No. 2 on my list of TV's Best of the Decade.
Coming up tomorrow? The long, strange journey comes to an end with the best series ever produced for the small screen. If you like hyperbole, get ready for the deluge, as HitFix celebrates TV's Best Show of the Aughts.
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December 30, 2009 at 4:46PM EST Reply to CommentAnd No. 1 is ... Fox's 1/2 News Hour?
dan Well you *know* I'm not gonna spoil it if you happen to be right, Kevin... -Daniel
December 30, 2009 at 4:56PM ESTEric Haislar
December 30, 2009 at 4:54PM EST Reply to CommentIs the Wire number 1?
Cam
December 30, 2009 at 4:55PM EST Reply to Comment1. Glenn Beck
Oh..or The Wire. Ha.
Cam
December 30, 2009 at 4:57PM EST Reply to CommentAnd yes, The Wire is undoubtedly number one. For anyone who hasn't watched it..do you want to know why? You've probably heard before. Because not only is it the finest television series ever made, its probably the greatest and most complete piece of entertainment ever made.
Trekscribbler I'll have to give it another go. I remember when it premiered way back when on HBO, and I watched the first 2 or 3 episodes, then tuned it out. The characters were way too stereotypical for me, but a buddy of mine swears by the show and told me he nearly gave it up after the 1st season for much of the same reason. He stuck it out, and he thinks it's the cat's meow of TV, the highwater mark for years to come. For me, that's pretty much been DEADWOOD, but maybe I'll give THE WIRE a tangle on DVD sometime.
December 30, 2009 at 6:46PM ESTAndrew
December 30, 2009 at 5:48PM EST Reply to CommentTDS is the only TV show I've watched new in every year of the decade. It's the only place on TV that's reacted with the mix of incredulity, black humor, pithy analysis and heart to the news and the echo chamber surrounding the news.
Trekscribbler
December 30, 2009 at 6:34PM EST Reply to CommentHmm. Major disappointment to see this anywhere on any list. Stewart's a serious liberal douchebag.
WhatTheFDidIDo Yeah, having this at #2 clearly invalidates your whole list. /End Sarcasm
December 30, 2009 at 7:22PM ESTI dont watch TDS as regularly as I used to, so I certainly wouldn't have it at #2, but its tough to argue against the ranking. Theirs something to be said about a show that brings it 5 days a week at such a consistently high level.
BP
December 30, 2009 at 6:41PM EST Reply to CommentLoved the write-up, just have to take issue with one point: your review of Stewart as a not-so-great interviewer. In fact, I'd say he's one of the best. Just like he's willing to call out mainstream media, he's one of the few journalists (let's face it, he's one of them) willing to call out guests on controversial views they have. Huckabee, Cramer, Betsy McCaughey (who he destroyed, though she's too dumb to realize it), John Bolton. In fact, Bolton once commented that TDS is one of his favorite shows to go on because Stewart actually comes prepared. More often these days, I'm more excited for the interview than the bits.
One more thing to like about the show overall: it'll be in HD starting in January.
forg
December 30, 2009 at 7:12PM EST Reply to CommentThe Daily Show was really a fun show to watch even though I'm not really into politics but when Colbert Report came, it totally outshone TDS for me. That's why I'm kinda bummed the Emmys canceled the Individual performance award because I wanted Colbert to win it (and well if he loses it's still fun how Colbert reacts on the show). But still I think TDS deserves the citation because without it there will be no Colbert Report
BugKiller
December 30, 2009 at 7:49PM EST Reply to CommentHate Jon Stewart.
And for the record, I consider myself a Constitutionalist without an idealogy (which means I vote my conscience, and not what a party tells me to do... meaning I've voted all over the map, how I see fit).
But I hate Jon Stewart.
Elitist New York comedian. Is as smug as he acts, and while he does on occasion slap the hands of the left with a ruler, he much more frequently and consistently goes after the right.
Now that Obama and the Dems are screwing things up just as much as W and the Reps did... we hear nary a peep out of Stewart except to exclaim that the Dem's agenda is not socialist ENOUGH for his particularly tastes (health care).
And also, for the record, I also hate Rush, Beck, Horseface Woman, Hannity, and even more than Stewart or those other bozos, Olbermann.
I do like O'Reilly, most days, but O'Reilly also like Stewart, so what do I know?
If I have a political mensch, it'd be the no-nonsense, common-sense-filled Neil Bortz.
Stewart is just too hard for me to relate with.
But here's the real thing Dan, and you're not going to like this, because I'm guessing if you do have an idealogy, it pulls you left, but if you were really honest with yourself, you'd have The O'Reilly Factor here in The Daily Show's place.
The Factor has much broader appeal. And unlike Stewart, O'Reilly actually does go after both sides more equally. The crazies on both sides hate O'Reilly, while those of us in the middle know he does lean slightly right, he is also anti-death penalty, limited pro-choice, and pro-gay civil unions, placing him far closer to the majority of Americans than a quasi-socialist elitist like Jon Stewart.
But I guess you'd never admit to that. :-)
And that's okay. Your list, your perogative.
BugKiller What I meant vis-a-vis The Factor vs. The Daily Show:
December 30, 2009 at 7:58PM ESTIt doesn't just have more appeal, it's been far more important to the political process and and for corrected a large problem in the national media that's existed for decades: the extreme liberal bias.
Let's be honest for a minute, because no one else ever wants to be.
There is extreme liberal bias in print and news media. It has everything to do with who is in charge with how the news is reported, not what the news is, though sometimes, they do mess with that, too.
Why O'Reilly looks so right wing to those on the left (when he really is just to the right of center politically) is because for decades, we've been digesting the news from lefties like Peter Jennings or Dan Rather, who like Cronkite, claimed objectivity, but never in a million years actually were.
Bernie Goldberg did an amazing job describing how people in the news media see the world and how they decide what becomes the news (big hint, they take their cues every day from the New York Times, that bastion of fairness and balanced journalism, wink-wink), and he did so to the detriment of his career and many personal friendships.
I understand that this list is largely personal to Dan, so him having The Daily Show here is perfectly okay (unlike on some other lists that purported to be bias-free, and then we were treated to that reviewers fave films, including one glaring omission).
But in the realm of actual importance, The Factor is heads and tails above The Daily Show.
dan BugKiller - My political leanings are *strongly* to the left, but that's not especially germane here. O'Reilly's audience is every bit as insularly right-leaning as Stewart's is insularly left-leaning, which means that while there are exceptions, as you consider yourself, more people fit the rule. Regardless, O'Reilly's show hasn't served as a training ground for at least a half-dozen legitimate film and television stars, nor generated an Emmy-winning spinoff, meaning that mostly, O'Reilly serves O'Reilly and O'Reilly's viewers. Which is fine. And apparently Season Five of my No. 1 show didn't sway you to the idea that newspapers and TV stations, even if they're populated by total pinkos in the newsroom, are still first and foremost, money-generating enterprises run like any other business, with an emphasis on the bottom line, rather than liberal ideology. -Daniel
December 30, 2009 at 8:12PM ESTBugKiller Oh no, Dan, don't mistake me...
December 30, 2009 at 8:45PM EST... I know that there is an absolute bottom line to any and all businesses.
The fact cannot be ignored then, that as the 5 o'clock news and newspapers are suffering humongous losses... we know why.
I'll disagree with you about TDS spawning the greatness of Steve Carrell and Stephen Colbert.
And I was remiss in saying, as much as I loathe Stewart, I love Colbert, because I get the joke, and it's just done much more honestly on Colbert than it is with Stewart.
O'Reilly's audience is certainly more right-leaning than Stewart's, but your analogy is slightly off.
I lump Stewart in with Olbermann, who I lump against Hannity.
Olbermann wants to think of himself as the O'Reilly of MSNBC (with a tenth of the ratings, natch), but ideologically, he's the Hannity, or Hannity's Opposite, as it were.
O'Reilly's show is far closer to the center than any other show on ANY of the cable news networks.
When I talk of importance, I talk of how The Factor brought about change in the entire industry of print and television news media.
It woke America, or at least the vast majority of Americans who happen to be center-right (because that's where the majority of Americans are, let's be honest), to the fact that you can have a news program or network reflect your beliefs back to you as opposed to being force-fed the beliefs of Dan Rather or Peter Jennings or Paul Krugman, simply because they're all that's available.
We can agree that the established media is failing as a business. And it's doing so because the people running those businesses have no clue.
It's like the old joke. A liberal elitist in New York City walks over to his friend at a post elecition party in 2004 and says, "I have no clue how W won again! I don't know ANYONE who voted for him."
Those are the people who've been bringing America the news with their slant for 50-odd years.
And they have absolutely no clue to why they're failing.
I think everyone just wants the facts, and if they wanted opinion, would read the editorials. But that wasn't how things were done for decades.
You really should read Bernie Goldberg's two books about the kind of groupthink that's brought down all of these businesses, as you've correctly identified them.
Whether you agree or disagree ideologically, it's hard to deny the truth. It's fascinating to see how some of these guys think and view the world, and how they literally cannot see their own biases in what should be unbiased journalism. Particularly Dan Rather. Two great reads. "Bias" and "Arrogance."
He predicts the crisis that print and television news media finds itself in years before it happened. Uncanny truth from a left-leaning ideologue, but a committed journalist.
BugKiller *should read: I'll NOT disagree with you...
December 30, 2009 at 8:46PM ESTgregel
December 30, 2009 at 7:52PM EST Reply to CommentBravo. Great write up.
(Although I agree Stewart's becoming a much better interviewer than you give him credit for.)
BugKiller
December 30, 2009 at 8:05PM EST Reply to CommentOh, and you are now my new favorite guy because of what I know has to be the number 1 show on your list.
Man... people are going to be punching themselves in the heads for years to come for the fact that this show never received the acclaim it deserved.
I think I'm anticipating reading your write up more than a kid waiting to open up Christmas presents.
No pressure.
dan My fear is that my write-up for No. 1 may end up having to be 5000 words and that it may not get finished until half of the country is celebrated the New Year. That wouldn't be ideal. -Daniel
December 30, 2009 at 8:13PM ESTPhil
December 30, 2009 at 8:48PM EST Reply to Commentno mention of the Wire yet. I assume it's #1?
fuzzydunlop
December 30, 2009 at 8:48PM EST Reply to CommentO'Reilly cannot handle criticism, yells over anyone who disagrees with him, and is a complete bully. How this makes his show somehow great I cannot understand. I don't hate him because of his political opinions (that's what crazies like Glenn Beck are for), but because he is a loud-mouthed asshole who reminds me of a number of unpleasant individuals I've had to encounter in my life.
Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY
Good call on The Daily Show, Dan. Can't wait to see the write-up of your number 1 show.
BugKiller And Olbermann is the picture of quiet sanity???
December 30, 2009 at 9:05PM ESTSeriously, though, I wasn't talking about O'Reilly the man, but his show and how it's changed the print and television news media.
Whether you want to give credit where credit is due or not, the show is important for breaking the hold of much bias in the media and for giving the vast majority of Americans a choice for the first time.
Like I said, I like Bill, most of the time. But there are some times where I do find him annoying and punch-worthy.
dan Keith Olbermann was a great "Sports Center" anchor and I really enjoyed him when he was played by Peter Krause on "SportsNight." If he's done anything since then, I'm unaware of it.
December 30, 2009 at 9:10PM ESTGlad to see "fuzzydunlop" getting in the sprit of a hypothetical top choice on this list...
-Dan
BugKiller In the world of sports, I can't point to what I miss more:
December 30, 2009 at 11:55PM ESTBob Costas calling the playoffs and World Series (as he did for my Atlanta Braves in 1995) which belays the bigger problem of Biggest Douche in the World nominee Joe Buck being handed every single great announcing job by the sports division of FOX.
Or Olbermann leaving ESPN, the first time.
His shows with Dan Patrick were legend, but you know, I always liked it in the very rare occasions when he was paired with Kilborn. The comedy was so natural, unlike with Stu BOOYAH Scott.
fuzzydunlop Olbermann annoys me as well, and definitely is a partisan hack. I see what you're saying about O'Reilly's show though and I apologise for going a little off topic, and I can see your point, even if I disagree.
December 31, 2009 at 11:56AM ESTAt least we agree that The Wire is awesome. I think it can unite anyone with an interest in amazing television.
Christoban
December 30, 2009 at 8:50PM EST Reply to CommentIf the Wire is nr. 1 then it means that you found no room for Rome on your list. Well it's your list but I don't agree with leaving Rome out. In my world it is top 15 easy. Good work though on the list. I really liked this countdown
Bro
December 31, 2009 at 12:13AM EST Reply to CommentMy Guess:
1. The Oprah Winfrey Show
But I'll add The Wire to my Netflix queue now anyway...
Drew Melbourne
December 31, 2009 at 1:16AM EST Reply to CommentGlad to see that TDS made it so high on the list. I actually think that the "Jon Stewart applies the thumbscrews" interviews are among the highlights of the show, but they're relatively few and far between. I also appreciate that when folks come on with books to promote, Jon seems to have read most of them. But, yes, sometimes he gets stuck interviewing some silly celeb or doing a cakewalk interview with a big get. Definitely the most uneven part of the show...
Martin
December 31, 2009 at 1:17AM EST Reply to CommentSo it's a pretty good assumption, Dan, that "The Wire" will be your pick for #1. So, with that said, what about "Chappelle's Show?" It had a shorter length than "Arrested Development" and yet it was just as good!
dan Martin - "Chappelle's Show" is another that goes in that next tier, the tier that didn't quite make the list, but that appreciate greatly. [Yes, that tier seems to grow with each "Why didn't Show A make the list?" comment.] When "Chappelle's Show" was good, it was verging on brilliant (even if it was often just riffing on stuff Eddie Murphy was doing on "SNL" in the early '80s). But there are whole long stretches of episodes where I, personally, wouldn't laugh at all. Wanna know the funny thing: "Dave Chappelle's Block Party" came closer to making my Best Movies of the Decade list -- Seriously, it was Top 35 -- than "Chappelle's Show" came to making my TV list. That's a great movie. The more I think on it, the more I lament on leaving it out... -Daniel
December 31, 2009 at 1:38AM ESTdan
December 31, 2009 at 3:04AM EST Reply to Commenti was so concerned that the George Lopez Show was going to miss your top ten but you saved it all the way for number one it seems!
bri
December 31, 2009 at 3:21PM EST Reply to Commentwhere the F*ING F is THE SHIELD???????????
Trekscribbler LOL. Apparently it isn't as relevant as THE O.C.
December 31, 2009 at 4:28PM ESTdan After a certain number of times explaining it in posts and comments and acknowledging "The Shield" as both a gap in my own viewership and the list, a gap that will be rectified within the calendar year, the incredulous comments become a bit boring. I get it. -Daniel
December 31, 2009 at 4:38PM ESTMike Lappiccio
January 10, 2010 at 8:58PM EST Reply to CommentDaniel Fienberg is a moron.