Take Me To The Pilots '11: NBC's 'Grimm'
NBC's fairy tale procedural is less grim and more dull
David Giuntoli and Russell Hornsby of NBC's 'Grimm'
[In case you've Forgotten, and as I will continue to mention each and every one of these posts that I do: This is *not* a review. Pilots change. Sometimes a lot. Often for the better. Sometimes for the worse. But they change. Actual reviews will be coming in September and perhaps October (and maybe midseason in some cases). This is, however, a brief gut reaction to not-for-air pilots.]
Show: "Grimm" (NBC)
The Pitch: "What if you stripped fairy tales of their whimsy and subtext and just built a generic procedural around fighting fairy tale bad guys?"
Quick Response: There's almost no way of saying this without sounding like I'm maligning either "Grimm," NBC or Syfy, but what on Earth is this show doing on a broadcast network rather than on cable? "Grimm" is a niche-y show and doesn't appear to have any desire at broad reach. It's a grim (pun not-particularly-intended), serious-minded procedural with an approach to procedurals that's almost completely devoid of fun or humor. Instead, creators Jim Kouf and David Greenwalt fill the pilot script with Germanic-sounding creatures and portentous chatter about legacies and family destinies. The production values are middling (pilot director Marc Buckland has kept everything lit as darkly as possible and not in an evocative way) and the cast isn't glutted with big name stars. This is the kind of show Syfy could pair with a "Haven" and it would probably have a chance to find an audience acceptable enough to keep the thing around for a couple seasons. NBC has scheduled it for Fridays and without a star to promote or even a hook-y visual motif, there's no chance it'll succeed. Like ABC's "Once Upon a Time," "Grimm" is built around a "What if the stories were real?" tag, but unlike "OUAT," "Grimm" wastes that tag on 44 minutes of the dullest murder investigation possible, as people turn into wolves and other critters in the background. Leading man David Giuntoli isn't so bad that I'm forced to make jokes about his "Road Rules" background, but he isn't nearly charismatic enough to justify NBC's choice to bank this entire series around a totally unknown leading man. Giuntoli is wooden and Brandon Routh-esque, though the real Brandon Routh would have been promotable. Of the supporting players, only Silas Weir Mitchell has enough energy to enliven the series around him. As low-budget as most of "Grimm" looks, the special effects are OK, especially when our hero beguns to realize that he's seeing the folkloric essence beneath some seemingly normal humans.
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July 5, 2011 at 10:00AM EST Reply to CommentFRINGE fans should thank NBC for this show.
Tausif Khan This show seems more a knock off of Supernatural than Fringe. Also Fringe's ratings dropped after it began competing against Supernatural. Fox made a half-assed attempt to make Friday a sort of nerd night by putting Sarah Connor Chronicles and Dollhouse there and when that didn't work A Gordon Ramsey show and a lot rated Fringe. I am pretty sure that Grimm is more in debted to the old WB as David Greenwalt and Jim Kouf are behind that project.
July 5, 2011 at 1:21PM ESTTausif Khan * low rated Fringe
July 5, 2011 at 1:22PM EST
Why? I think Fox has finally accepted that Fringe is never going to be the next Lost. The show is what it is, has the audience it has and (IIRC) this is the final season so it can go out with its freak flag high. For all the bitching I do about Fox, I'm still glad that 'Fringe' got a chance to find its own voice.
July 6, 2011 at 6:54PM ESTTausif Khan This next season is not intended to be Fringe's last season. Jeff Pinker and J.H. Wyman went to FOX with a plan for the show that would take it year 6. In a recent interview John Noble confirm that show ideally would end in year 6 but he is hoping for at least 5 years for the show.
July 11, 2011 at 2:22AM ESTMy problem is not that I want Fringe to be a hit. (I actually have many problems with the show itself and don't know how it is going to work itself out because this is the first Bad Robot show I am watching. I don't know whether I agree or am invested in their overall vision.) My problem is that Fox is not really trying to program their Fridays with good scripted programming. I would like to see mind-bending scifi shows but mind-bending shows of any type would be fine by me.
I just have no idea with what Fox is doing with their Friday nights and I have no idea which audience would watch a Gordon Ramsey show and then Fringe or why they think it is a good idea.
Tausif Khan Also when Fox picked up Fringe they said that this is the type of science fiction show that they had in mind for Fox and that they wanted Fox to remain a home for good science fiction. They then referenced X Files as a Fox's grounding in and tradition of science fiction on the network. If this is the show they wanted then why didn't they pair it with a show that is compatible with it?
July 11, 2011 at 2:27AM ESTFox basically renewed this show after looking at the first two weeks of rating where it had no science fiction competition. When Supernatural came back Fringe began to have a very low audience share but Fox didn't seem to notice or care and assumed it was in the same place it had been when it had moved the show to Fridays originally.
Karyn
July 5, 2011 at 10:14AM EST Reply to CommentI'm sad; this seemed like a fun premise that I was vaguely interested in but all signs point to this specific show being DOA and for good cause. Oh well, my Friday night DVR had already become surprisingly crowded, so I guess it's a good thing that I don't have to think about yet another show.
chuckfan
July 5, 2011 at 10:41AM EST Reply to CommentWrite a comment...if chuck can pull a few fringe and a few supernat fans to the first hour on friday, and say doubles grimm in the 18-49 demo - any chance grimm gets the reaper's axe and chuck gets yet another life - just askin?
Merve No.
July 5, 2011 at 2:26PM ESTTausif Khan Bob Greenblatt said that Chuck would need about 10 million viewers a week to get a renewal.
July 5, 2011 at 6:25PM ESTTausif Khan
July 5, 2011 at 1:27PM EST Reply to CommentDid critics love Buffy and Angel right from the beginning and thought every episode was a gem? How long did it take for critics to like either on of these shows?
IIRC, 'Buffy' didn't get universal raves right from the beginning (and, honestly, it was far from flawless) but for a mid-season replacement on The WB it did quickly attract a solid audience. And it really did have a distinct style and point of view, even though it took a while for the show to tonally hit its stride.
July 6, 2011 at 8:43AM ESTdan Tausif - As Craig said, the critical response to "Buffy" wasn't uniformly adulatory, but there was definitely a strong sentiment of "This sounds like a bad joke, but it's *far* better than you're expecting and has the potential to become really good." I know that was the sentiment of the review I wrote for my college newspaper...
July 6, 2011 at 11:10AM EST-Daniel
Chrissy I didn't watch Buffy in the early days, but I think the hook of that first episode was pretty juicy at the time. Girl walks down a dark alley, pursued by a mysterious man. Turns out girl is the one to be afraid of. Nowadays that wouldn't seem so special, but I think it was then, and having that specific vision got the show through some early rough patches.
July 9, 2011 at 10:06AM ESTUnfortunately, it doesn't sound like this show leaves the viewer with any such singular image, which is a shame as I interested in this one.
Mireille
July 5, 2011 at 1:44PM EST Reply to CommentOh man, too bad then. It sucks that NBC decided to pick this up instead of that Precinct thing with BSG people.
Tausif Khan NBC said that Precinct 17 was way too complicated to be a television show.
July 11, 2011 at 2:31AM ESTI like you am sad about that though. I can't wait for his next project.
Keane Gulbert
July 5, 2011 at 6:31PM EST Reply to CommentI think I will watch this show. After reading your rave review of 'Falling Skies" which I think is one of the lamest tv shows of all time,I no longer have any fate in your reviews. So yeah I will be watching this show.
dan Keane - As ever, it's up to you to decide how much "fate" you want to put in my reviews. "Grimm" is a bore, but maybe you'll enjoy it.
July 5, 2011 at 6:53PM ESTOn a side note, I gave "Falling Skies" a "B" in HitFix's ratings system. That's not a rave.
-Daniel
Rave review of Falling Skies? Um, I don't know if we're reading the same Dan but I thought his review of 'Falling Skies' was mixed-but-generally positive in a "it does A,B & C well enough, but X,Y,Z drives me nuts. For the kind of show it is, it doesn't make me want to slit my wrists" kind of way.
July 6, 2011 at 6:58PM ESTGuanoLad
July 6, 2011 at 5:31AM EST Reply to CommentJust watch "Lost Girl." It's dark, yet whimsical, and has a great Canadian cast.
charli
July 19, 2011 at 11:37PM EST Reply to Commentgiven that apparently the real Grimm Fairy Tales are dark and nasty, i'm glad to hear that this show is gory etc and doesn't have singing princesses etc
Joyeful
June 30, 2012 at 1:23PM EST Reply to CommentReading the old "pilots" out of curiosity, looking at the shows that survived. Just went back and read this...Grimm actually got a lot, a LOT better than the pilot. Holy crow, did it get better! At first I thought Once Upon A Time was better, but now I'll take Grimm over it any day.