Press Tour Live-Blog: FX Executive Session with John Landgraf
'Terriers,' 'Lights Out' and More...
'Terriers'
Usually FX panels for the Television Critics Associations are love-fests, but Saturday (January 15) morning's panel with FX President John Landgraf could take on a different tone, with the quick cancellation of "Terriers" and a disappointing premiere for "Lights Out."
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9:33 a.m. The first big piece of news is that FX is in negotiations with the team behind "The League" to return as showrunners for a possible third season which will be ordered when negotiations are concluded.
9:33 a.m. Landgraf admits that the ratings for "Lights Out" were disappointing, but he remains hopeful that the show will find an audience. As he would be.
9:34 a.m. "Wilfred" will be paired on Thursdays this summer with "Louie," which will move from 11 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. for its second season.
9:36 a.m. Question time. The first questioner thanks John Landgraf for doing a cancellation conference call for "Terriers" and asks if he'll handle future cancellations in the same way. Landgraf says that he thought the fans of "Terriers" deserved a clear explanation and for reporters, as representatives of fans, to be able to question the decision. He doesn't know why other networks don't do the same thing. [Probably because they cancel more stuff and would spend their whole lives doing cancellation calls.] He says that he's been doing this long enough that he's confident enough to explain his decisions.
9:38 a.m. Why was the "Lights Out" launch so soft? "Maybe we should have made a show about a zombie or a sexy vampire who's trying to regain the heavyweight championship of the world," Landgraf says, almost ruefully. On a more serious note, he says that the marketplace was too full -- 52 original shows premiering in January and February on cable and networks, many new. "It's obviously an intensely crowded field." He says, Comparing it to the movie marketplace, he says, "It really doesn't matter if your movie's good." He specifically references "The Game," "Tosh.0" and "16 and Pregnant" for taking away different segments of the demo on the premiere night. He says the question isn't whether the shows are good, but whether they're the first choice of the marketplace.
9:42 a.m. Landgraf seems to suggest that under some circumstances, FX could consider moving a hit to 9 p.m. so that FX could have a better launching pad for future 10 p.m. dramas.
9:44 a.m. Did viewers confuse "Lights Out" with "The Fighter"? Landgraf says he'd have to do a lot of research into the disappoint of the premiere, the kind of research he did on "Terriers." He says, however, that he doesn't anticipate doing that sort of research into "Lights Out." He points out that there's never been a successful TV series about boxing and it might have been a bad thing that there's a successful boxing movie in theaters now.
9:46 a.m. Is FX getting different sorts of scripts, things that aren't being offers to any other network? Landgraf says that broadcast networks often get into bidding wars with other networks, but that FX is rarely bidding against Showtime and HBO and AMC. He cites "Dexter" and "Walking Dead" as shows on other networks that could have been hits on FX. He uses an amusing drug study reference to explain why viewers are more patient with shows on HBO or Showtime, something about how people get more satisfaction from things they pay more money for.
9:49 a.m. What's the most important trait for a network boss? Landgraf says it's a combination of toughness and compassion. Landgraf says that like TV critics, network chiefs get jaded. Viewers, he says, just want networks to come to them with something great.
9:50 a.m. What's happening with "Powers"? Landgraf is very excited about it, noting that adapting a graphic novel into a TV show is tough. He says "Powers" is a different show than "Walking Dead" and they're on their third writer. Naturally, the most recent writer is a "Walking Dead" alum.
9:52 a.m. "I think there's always been a disconnect, unfortunately, between audience interest and critical acclaim," Landgraf admits. He says that the problem is that we're rarely unanimous and that we rarely stand up on a table to declare our positions. He says that critics have taken "Mad Men" from "a dismal failure to ratings mediocrity." ZING! He tells us that viewers want something different more than they necessarily want something good.
9:54 a.m. Landgraf says that the network went 6-for-6 in terms of *good* shows, but that despite "Terriers" and "Lights Out," he's not discouraged. He promises the next batch of projects will include some big successes. "We don't win 'em all, but we've got a good batting average," Landgraf says.
9:55 a.m. Landgraf likes "Wilfred." He praises its heart. I liked "Wilfred." On Twitter, I said it was "Fight Club" if Brad Pitt were a dude in a dog suit and Ed Norton were Frodo.
9:57 a.m. What did Landgraf think of the most recent "Sons of Anarchy" season? Well, he read Sepinwall and thought some of his criticisms were valid. He says the story was sprawling and that it played better the way he watched the show -- the way people watch shows on DVD -- some of the criticisms will be valid, but most won't. [Landgraf is wrong on this. I watched seven episodes in a weekend and the pacing wasn't improved in the slightest.] He calls "Sons" epic and says that it isn't a purely episodic show. He supports creator Kurt Sutter. He points out that the "Sons of Anarchy" audience was identical to last season. He says that "Sons" is a three-act structure and that we just finished Act I.
9:59 a.m. It's telling that we had almost no questions for Nina Tassler yesterday and we could probably talk to John Landgraf for another hour. Unfortunately, we're done...
On to Louis C.K...
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Login or create a HitFix account Login SignupDarius Good to hear The League is likely to come back for a 3rd season. I think Powers has the potential to garner a larger audience than some of the recent FX shows have been able to.
January 15, 2011 at 5:42PM EST Reply to Commenttag8833 I don't understand how FX has managed to develop so many shows and maintain a qualitative edge over HBO and Showtime. Are HBO and Showtime not seeing the same quality of pitches? Is the FX team better at picking shows to develop? Or is there something in development that turns duds into creative successes?
January 15, 2011 at 5:45PM EST Reply to Commentshanemd Landgraf seems to be right about Sons. I hated the season and I watched it week to week, but I know a lot of people who waited till the season was over to watch it all in a few days and those people loved it.
January 15, 2011 at 7:24PM EST Reply to CommentCal I'm not gonna lie: When I saw that Terriers picture on the top of the page part of me thought, "Maybe it's gotten a reprieve!"
January 15, 2011 at 7:45PM EST Reply to Commentdan Sorry, Cal! I figured I'd just take the chance to use a "Terriers" image one last time for nostalgia...
January 15, 2011 at 10:05PM EST-Dan
"Landgraf admits that the ratings for "Lights Out" were disappointing, but he remains hopeful that the show will find an audience. As he would be." I wonder, iss there any reason to be somewhat nervous at this point (although I don't think there is...yet)?
January 15, 2011 at 9:19PM EST Reply to Comment
Just had a thought: I remember Alan mentioning that "Friday Night Lights" suffers a problem ratings wise because it's a sports-oriented drama. Women hates sports, men hates drama and I wonder if that point is going to bug this show.
January 15, 2011 at 9:36PM ESTdan Kelvin - Long-term? Yes. There's plenty of reason to be concerned for "Lights Out." Short-term? No. FX lets series run their course. You'll get the full S.1 run of "Lights Out," no matter what happens!
January 15, 2011 at 10:07PM EST-Daniel
Tausif Khan Why was the "Lights Out" launch so soft? "Maybe we should have made a show about a zombie or a sexy vampire who's trying to regain the heavyweight championship of the world,"
January 15, 2011 at 11:47PM EST Reply to Comment-My response: Hey you have a good relationship with Tim Minear he can do that show for you. Terriers for me was basically Angel without all the vamping.
belinda Yay on The League. Really love the show and looking forward to a third season.
January 16, 2011 at 4:47AM EST Reply to CommentTerriers: Dang, I'm reminded again by the sadness that was the cancellation. I don't really blame FX or Landgraf that much, but it doesn't make it any less sadder.
Lights Out: I watched it mostly because it's gotten such good reviews, but I think I agree with Landgraf's assessment that boxing shows on tv attract a pretty selective audience. I liked it enough to keep watching for a bit to see more, but I can't say I would care a whole lot if I don't either. And I do think it's mostly because it IS a show mostly about boxing, and is advertised as much, even if it has some great family relationship stuff in it too.
Tausif Khan Is there going to be any Golden Globes Coverage from the television side of Hitfix?
January 16, 2011 at 2:58PM EST Reply to CommentSareeta If Comcast would kindly post the pilot some time soon on On Demand I might actually watch Lights Out. Sorry, but 10 PM is too late for me to do the live viewing. What's the problem with airing it at 9PM?? It can't be that violent/sexy...I mean it's FX not premium cable.
January 17, 2011 at 9:35PM EST Reply to Commentjen "viewers want something different more than they necessarily want something good."
January 20, 2011 at 3:25PM EST Reply to CommentThis is the kind of statement from executives that KILLS ME. That certainly doesn't describe everyone, including me. It'd be one thing if a broadcast network said that. They're set up to cater to the bell curve of the masses. But there is a segment of us out there who DO JUST WANT "GOOD." And those of us in that camp are tired of getting short shrift. I have money to spend too, advertisers. But you'll never get it if you continue catering to everyone else. I know we're a smaller segment, but can't someone out there commit to actually servicing our segment? We're the ones who tuned in from the beginning when FX was just starting to do original programming, and we're the ones who spread the word of mouth. And the moment they grew, it was like, "Oops, sorry. You guys are small potatoes, we'd like to go after the larger, stupider segment of the market now, so we're going to be dropping you as customers. Have a nice life!"