Listen: Firewall & Iceberg Podcast No. 77
Dan and Alan talk 'Twin Peaks,' 'Switched at Birth,' 'X-Men' and more
Happy Late Monday/ Early Tuesday, Boys & Girls.
We apologize for the late posting of this week's Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, but Sepinwall was in the air in transit to Los Angeles and we actually got the opportunity to do a rare podcast recorded together and in-person.
This week marks the beginning of our summer re-watch of "Twin Peaks." We also talked about the ABC Family drama "Switched at Birth," touched on "X-Men: First Class" and answered a couple pieces of Listener Mail.
Here's the breakdown:
"Switched at Birth" -- 01:40 - 12:00
"X-Men: First Class" -- 12:00 - 19:40
Listener Mail: Showkillers -- 19:50 - 30:50
Listener Mail: Empty Cups -- 31:00 - 34:20
"Twin Peaks" Re-Watch -- 34:25 - 01:02:00
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A long-time member of the TCA Board and a longer-time blogger of "American Idol," Dan Fienberg writes about TV, except for when he writes about movies or sometimes writes about the Red Sox. But never music. He would sound stupid talking about music.
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Login or create a HitFix account Login SignupDougMac
June 7, 2011 at 3:46AM EST Reply to CommentChi McBride also had a fairly substantial arc on House.
Rena Sofer is always my go to showkiller.
burth
June 7, 2011 at 6:45AM EST Reply to CommentI think you shouldn't write off Twin Peaks season 2 too easily, especially if you only barely remember it from many years ago. Having watched the entire series three times in the last 5 or 6 years I would say that many of my favourite parts are in the second season. Sure, there are some messy storylines especially in the middle, but it starts off strong and gets very great towards the end, if you can embrace the weirdness of it all.
June 7, 2011 at 6:55AM ESTTom3345 @Burth: I agree completely. I think the first 9 episodes of Season 2 are just as good as Season 1. After that, the worst storylines of the series start to appear, mainly with the side characters, but there still is some interesting stuff about The Black Lodge in those episodes. Then the series starts to get good again for the last 4 or 5 episodes when Wyndom Earle comes to town.
June 7, 2011 at 12:10PM ESTCraig Ranapia
June 7, 2011 at 6:52AM EST Reply to CommentIt's a great insight that you can't manufature "quirky". But something else is that Mel Brooks may have famously described Lynch as "Jimmy Stewart from Mars" but however stylized the show is, it's never condescending towards the characters or allows you to affect an ironic distance. Leland and Sarah Palmer's ever-escalating hysteria is painful to watch, and the almost sadistic close-ups always seem to be held a few seconds too long for comfort. But in a funny way, it's more emotionally realistic -- the raw, unrelenting sorrow -- than other self-consciously "realistic" shows.
Jonathan
June 7, 2011 at 7:23AM EST Reply to CommentI agree with the premise that January Jones was terrible in X-Men, but I don't understand all the attention her acting is getting. Is X-Men a film franchise where the acting is as important as in, say, The King's Speech? This is a franchise I generally like and yet I can think of very few memorable performances since the 2000 version. Even in XFC, the only truly great performance came from Fassbender.
Jo It's because she's now a household name with a lot of gossip swirling around her. She's become a star outside of basic cable with two #1 movies.
June 7, 2011 at 11:40AM ESTM
June 7, 2011 at 10:30AM EST Reply to CommentWould Eric Balfour be considered a showkiller? I guess he finally got a second season with Syfy's Haven, but after Hawaii, Conviction, Sex Love & Secrets, Fearless (canceled before it even aired) I think the label would apply to him. The one difference between him and most of the showkillers you mentioned is I have NO IDEA why he keeps getting cast in things.
dan M - Eric Balfour *absolutely* was a showkiller. Because, as you say, "Haven" is currently on the verge of starting a second season, he's in limbo. If "Haven" gets renewed again, he's off the hook for a while. If "Haven" is canceled after this season and he goes back into the talent pool? We definitely return to talking about his show-killing...
June 7, 2011 at 11:26AM EST-Daniel
June 7, 2011 at 11:34PM ESTThis Gurl
June 7, 2011 at 12:07PM EST Reply to CommentPure and unsubstantiated speculation - just raises an eyebrow with the coincidental timing. Will Hitfix and Grantland perhaps be connected in any way? Sepinwall and Simmons are friends and have done podcasts, and Alan's traveling to LA for business on the eve of the Grantland launch...
dan This Gurl - Coincidence.
June 7, 2011 at 12:29PM EST-Daniel
This Gurl That's good. I was hoping there would not be any interruption in my regular weekly F&I podcast diet.
June 7, 2011 at 1:57PM ESTstudioplant
June 7, 2011 at 12:44PM EST Reply to CommentAs a man who openly mocks all things LA Hipster, I would proudly wear a matching Superman T-shirt in to that hotel. With shorts and white tubes socks long enough to be long, but short enough to able to show off my Superman Tatoo on my calf.
Joten
June 7, 2011 at 2:29PM EST Reply to CommentNot an actor, but Tim Minear deserves mention, no? He's worked on Firefly, Drive, Wonderfalls, Dollhouse, Terriers, The Chicago Code...
Fireflame94 Reply to comment...
June 7, 2011 at 6:23PM ESTBryan
June 7, 2011 at 3:25PM EST Reply to CommentI was recently in a community theatre play that required me to drink from a clear glass in almost every scene. We used combinations of warm iced tea/flavored water/etc to stand for scotch/vodka/etc.
By the 2nd act, the old people in the audience were openly laughing at the fact we were drinking so much, yelling out things like 'have another drink' as if we couldn't hear them & they were talking to their TV, despite this being a serious drama. I was so angry during it that I had to fight the urge to stop and throw my drink at someone saying "Hey, old people, watch Madmen instead of CBS some time." Luckily, I restrained myself...
In conclusion, old people are stupid
Conrado
June 7, 2011 at 5:34PM EST Reply to CommentI want to watch the pilot of twin peaks before I listen to the podcast, but I don't know if you're talking about episode 0 "Northwest Passage" or episode 1 "Traces to nowhere", can someone tell me please?
Tom3345 It's "Northwest Passage" (episode 0).
June 7, 2011 at 6:28PM ESTryan
June 7, 2011 at 11:25PM EST Reply to CommentAndrea Anders was good in Better off Ted, but man was she terrible in Mr. Sunshine! If we are to give her credit for BOT, we have to admit how dreadful she was as basically the same character in Mr. Sunshine (which was a train wreck and featured terrible writing, but she was still really bad/stale there)
theholyavenger
June 8, 2011 at 12:30AM EST Reply to CommentPlease devote an entire podcast to performing A Few Good Men. I have a feeling it could be the best thing ever.
Kid Zemo
June 8, 2011 at 12:47PM EST Reply to CommentI was always pleased by the fact that Twin Peaks cast both Riff (Dr. Jacoby) and Tony (Ben) from the film version of West Side Story. That goes in the discussion of Lynch's use of icons from a previous era.
Tebazile
June 8, 2011 at 3:32PM EST Reply to CommentAlex O'Loughlin was well on his way to being a show killer until this year with Hawaii Five-O. I guess CBS kept trying to make him happen until he did. I always think of Paula Marshall as the classic showkiller.
WaltEagle
June 10, 2011 at 11:04AM EST Reply to CommentBravo reran Twin Peaks in 1993, so Lynch wrote new Log Lady introductions for those episodes, and Catherine E. Coulson performed them.