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Listen: Firewall & Iceberg Podcast No. 24

Daniel Fienberg and Alan Sepinwall talk Emmy nominations plus 'Covert Affairs' and more

By Daniel Fienberg Thursday, Jul 8, 2010 6:14 PM

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Happy Thursday.
 
That sounds weird, but it's time for another summer episode of The Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, on a special day.
 
Beset by technical problems, this week's podcast doesn't sound terrific, but we have a ton of ground to cover, including reactions to Thursday morning's Emmys announcement, this week's two episodes of "Undeclared," plus the premieres of Syfy's "Haven," A&E's "The Glades," TNT's "Rizzoli & Isles" and USA's "Covert Affairs."
 
Here's what came up:
 
Emmy Nominations -- 03:15 - 20:30
"Haven" -- 21:40 - 27:00
"The Glades" -- 27:00 - 30:00
"Rizzoli and Isles" -- 27:00 - 36:15
"Covert Affairs" -- 36:10 - 42:20
"Undeclared" -- 42:25 - 56:50
 
As always, you can subscribe to The Firewall & Iceberg Podcast over at the iTunes Store, where you can also rate us and comment on us. [Or you can always follow our RSS Feed.]
 
And here's this week's podcast...

Firewall & Iceberg - Podcast 24

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Daniel Fienberg
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A long-time member of the TCA Board and a longer-time blogger of "American Idol," Dan Fienberg writes about TV, except for when he writes about movies or sometimes writes about the Red Sox. But never music. He would sound stupid talking about music.
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    lylebot

    Everything you ever wanted to know about "begging the question", by a professional linguists. Hopefully this will cure you.

    http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2290

    July 9, 2010 at 9:47AM EST Reply to Comment
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      lylebot Every single error in that comment is 100% intentional.

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  • The Will Arnett guest star nomination bothers me less than the Jon Hamm nomination, for an episode in which he was only in one scene. Were the Emmys just trying to fill their usual quota of nominations for "30 Rock"? But as you said, James Franco probably did deserve a nod.

    July 9, 2010 at 2:38PM EST Reply to Comment
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      dan Bill - Arnett and Hamm are *both* weird choices, given the number of "30 Rock" candidates in that category, including Franco, Michael Sheen, Matt Damon, Buzz Aldrin, etc, etc etc... It was another fine year for "30 Rock" guest stars, so the voters just went with a couple people they'd nominated before. They're cool like that...

      -Daniel

      July 9, 2010 at 6:36PM EST
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    Paul C

    Great show as always.

    But sorry Dan, I just can't buy into your justification of the Nurse Jackie nomination on the grounds that it should be respected. It's in the Comedy category and although it is funny at times, the drama greatly outweighs any attempt at jokes.

    Edie Falco is terrific, but it just seems more a case of lazy Emmy voters voting for the show due to her association.

    But then again, I had issues with most of that category. Glee I'm not a fan of and 30 Rock & especially The Office weren't great this past year.

    July 9, 2010 at 6:15PM EST Reply to Comment
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      dan Paul C - Don't get me wrong. "Nurse Jackie" wouldn't get my vote. But if it's in the comedy category, that's where it is and voters have to decide: Do I vote for the show I find funniest, or for the six best shows in the category? If it's the former? Clearly "Nurse Jackie" doesn't belong. Then again, neither do "Glee" or "The Office," among others. But I can just see why somebody would think that "Nurse Jackie" is a richer, more emotional (and therefore "better") show than most of what's in the category... In theory.

      -Daniel

      July 9, 2010 at 6:33PM EST
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    Jordan

    Finally a Jarrett Grode shoutout!

    July 11, 2010 at 11:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Carrie

    As a (former?) Floridian from the Tampa Bay, I can attest that it is nowhere near the Everglades. If they did a police procedural set in Tampa it would probably look a lot like those white trash episodes of Cops. Whole other kind of people, there.

    The lead character of The Glades makes me stabby. He is such a jackass. Despite the Florida connection, I will not be watching again.

    July 14, 2010 at 11:28AM EST Reply to Comment

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