Listen: Firewall & Iceberg Podcast No. 116
Dan and Alan talk 'Downton Abbey,' 'On Freddie Roach' and answer mail
Happy Monday, Boys & Girls!
The banks may be closed for some alleged holiday, but The Firewall & Iceberg Podcast remains in business.
This week, we talked about the full season of "Downton Abbey" following its premiere on Sunday, we caught up with HBO's excellent "On Freddie Roach" and we answer a lot of Listener Mail (and we've collected a lot more for the weeks to come). Good times!
Here's the breakdown:
"Downton Abbey" (00:01:30 - 00:21:00)
"On Freddie Roach" (00:21:00 - 00:29:30)
Dan's Reality Roundup (00:29:30 - 00:44:10)
Listener Mail - Pilots (00:45:55 - 00:59:10)
Listen Mail - Linsanity and Asian Representations (00:59:10 - 01:07:00)
Listener Mail - Critically acclaimed shows we don't acclaim (01:07:00 - 01:13:45)
Listener Mail - The Ann Perkins Problem (01:13:50 - 01:18:40)
Listener Mail - FOX's truncated schedule (01:18:50 - 01:22:25)
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At the dawn of the 21st Century, Daniel Fienberg came out to Los Angeles for grad school. He hasn't left. "The Fien Print" is a blog about television -- reviews, interviews, analysis -- but it's also about movies and the business of Hollywood. It probably won't be a blog about the Red Sox, though it might seem like that at times.
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February 20, 2012 at 7:35PM EST Reply to CommentDr. Clarkson = worst doctor ever.
I was waiting for Molesley to drop dead because Dr. Clarkson had failed to notice that he was both drunk AND had the Spanish flu.
chris
February 20, 2012 at 8:48PM EST Reply to CommentWhy do I have to click four links to get to the podcast? Would it really be that hard to Stream this from Alans blog too ?
Kaion Is it so hard to click? I only clicked once from Alan Sepinwalls's front page.
February 20, 2012 at 8:59PM EST
February 20, 2012 at 9:48PM ESTAs I say every time anybody asks this: The feed to iTunes goes through my blog, as it did since before Alan was at the site. That is why the streaming link is on my page.
-Daniel
thegba
February 20, 2012 at 11:26PM EST Reply to CommentFienberg, you don't like Seinfeld? I can't take your opinion seriously anymore. You leave me no choice.
Craig Ranapia
February 21, 2012 at 1:26AM EST Reply to CommentSo, Sybil and Branson are unconvincingly distant when I seem to be the only person on Earth who wants to push Moping Matthew & Ice Queen Mary under an omnibus? God, is it wrong of me to greet Lavinia's lachrymose death scene with a cry of "Lucky cow!"
Craig Ranapia
February 21, 2012 at 1:43AM EST Reply to CommentI'm probably going to annoy DA cultists and haters alike, but I think the basic flaw of season two of DA was present and accounted for in season one. In brief: Lord Fellows may have an Oscar, but he really needs a good script editor who has a firmer grip on structure, pacing and the fine line between pleasing melodrama and screaming unintentional camp.
WaltEagle
February 21, 2012 at 2:38AM EST Reply to CommentStrangely I never seem to hear either of you mention Carnivale. While it may not equal Wire/Deadwood/Sopranos, I always consider it among the shows in the strong second tier of HBO along with the likes of Six Feet Under, Oz, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, and Rome (the latter of which is worth getting around to for the record). Did either of you watch all/most of Carnivale and dislike it, or are you fans, or have you never seen it, or did you start it and never pick it back up, or is some other scenario the case? I suppose there is a slow start comparable to The Wire and Deadwood's, but I think the first "hook" episodes occur pretty early in season 1.
sabrinasai
February 21, 2012 at 4:51AM EST Reply to CommentThanks for the article
LN
February 21, 2012 at 5:22AM EST Reply to CommentCan Ann maybe just fade to Donna and Jerry season 1 early season 2 level involvement in each episode? I don't have any strong feeling about Rashida Jones either way and maybe you guys would argue that is down to the writing or her role as the straight woman but she has never stood out as a comedic presence in this cast. The actress who plays Donna built on a pretty thin character earlier in the series and is regularly hilarious, when Ann scenes are funny it's usually because of the other performer (her and Ron in Meet n Greet, her and Leslie in the fight etc). If the editors have to choose between Donna talking heads and Ann relationship scenes why should they have to give screen time to Rashida Jones because she is the bigger name and was originally intended to be a draw for the show?
Judge Holden
February 21, 2012 at 9:28AM EST Reply to CommentDan, didn't you only somewhat recently watch The Shield? If I remember correctly, you didn't watch the series till way after it had ended.
It saddens me that almost everyone seems to forget about The Shield when discussing the best television shows of the last decade. The Wire, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Deadwood (to a lesser extent), and even sometimes Justified, all seem to be mentioned when discussing critically acclaimed modern dramas. It seems however, that many critics (aside from Sepinwall and writers at the avclub) have completely forgotten about the The Shield's existence and truly incredible last 3 seasons.
Craig Ranapia
February 21, 2012 at 10:59AM EST Reply to CommentTo be rather cynical, I'm wondering if the rather scatter-shot writing in this series had anything to do with Julian Fellowes taking on another rather large commission in every sense -- ITV's entry in the battle of the centennial Titanic disaster-porn epics with the BBC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQRcYJERzDs
Nick
February 21, 2012 at 1:29PM EST Reply to CommentSummer Heights High and Damages (at least for its first couple of seasons) are two others that you guys don't acclaim but were highly regarded by most others.
February 21, 2012 at 9:47PM EST Reply to CommentIm with dan 100% in his hatred of seinfeld.
And as someone who doesnt relate to mob subculture, id much rather watch deadwood or the wire instead of the sopranos.
Robin
February 28, 2012 at 4:02PM EST Reply to CommentDan, I hate Seinfeld. HATE it.
I join you on your island, as I also share your love of TVD :-)