HitFix Interview: A few minutes with George R.R. Martin at the 'Game of Thrones' food truck
The 'Song of Ice and Fire' author finally saw the HBO drama this week
'Game of Thrones' author George R.R. Martin
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April 10, 2011 at 7:34AM EST Reply to Commentdamn cannot wait for the 17th. :)
Sareeta
April 10, 2011 at 11:07AM EST Reply to CommentThe final scene in the book made my jaw drop. Very cool way to end the book and make you excited for more. I hope it has the same impact on viewers.
Billy
April 10, 2011 at 12:08PM EST Reply to CommentDan - How about you're impressions of the first 2(or 6) episodes? Ok, I guess I can wait till the podcast tomorrow. Please tell me you'll be talking a lot about Game of Thrones in the podcast! :)
Billy your impressions
April 10, 2011 at 12:09PM ESTdan Billy - This week's podcast will be amply "Game of Thrones"-y! Impressions aplenty and whatnot... The short version? "Very positive."
April 10, 2011 at 1:31PM EST-Daniel
Jim
April 10, 2011 at 2:00PM EST Reply to CommentDan, do you think that the Game of Thrones pilot could be one of the best of all time? Why or Why not?
matt No. Too much exposition for it to have a lot of momentum.
April 10, 2011 at 9:03PM ESTSareeta
April 10, 2011 at 8:00PM EST Reply to CommentWhere do the numbers need to be to get a 2nd season? I haven't heard of HBO canceling too many shows without at least allowing a 2nd season. Flight of the Concords, #1 Detective Agency, & Tell Me You Love Me were canceled because the creators ran out of material. John from Cincinnati is the only one I can think of that didn't get a 2nd season. Carnivale got a 2nd season, Deadwood a 3rd before being canceled. HBO seems to be fairly generous in allowing enough time for a series to gain an audience.
dan Sareeta - My guess -- this is 100 percent a guess -- is that all "Game of Thrones" needs is a decent premiere and a renewal will come very quickly. I dunno if that means 2.5 million viewers or 3 million or 4 million. But it's an expensive show and HBO will want to set a resumption of production as quickly as possible. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a renewal come within a couple weeks of premiere, provided the show isn't an absolute bomb. Which it won't be.
April 10, 2011 at 9:22PM EST-Daniel
The real question is what happens past season 2 or 3. Season 4 can't follow book 4 because half te characters aren't in it(something a tv show can't pull off), but if they go chronologically all the characters would be there but only half the story per season( in seasons 4&5). Of course then you have to hope Martin can actually produce a book 6 before we reach a hypothetical season 6(I'd say there's a 30% chance that happens). If book 6 is done by the time season 6 happens, what about a book 7/season 7? Would we have to wait a few years for a season 7/8? I just don't see how they could ever realize the overall series with any semblance of success.
April 10, 2011 at 10:47PM ESTThorrgal Ryan, GRRMartin has 7/8 years to write 2 books. Season 4 and 5 will be a mix of books 4 and 5. Book 4 has half the POV's and the start of the book 5 has the other half, while ending with all the POV's again. So I'm sure they'll work something out for that, no worries.
April 11, 2011 at 7:07AM ESTNot all the season have to be in spring, so mb season 2 will be spring 2012 but season 3 , Storm of Swords, will be pushed back till autumn 2013. then season 4 autumn 2014 and season 5 spring 2015.
If I had to guess by then book 6 would be already finished and book 7 half written. Martin has already said that the delay was mainly casued to the fact he had to rewrite dance completely to solve the issue he ran into while trying to make time pass 5 years for some povs and not for others. That didnt work so he had to change his approach, but now he will have 8 years to write 2 books, plenty of time, specially if the show gets picked up season after season..u know how much money that will mean for him???
Thorrgal, Martin also said "Feast for crows is too long so I'm cutting it in half. Now this means you'll only get to read about half the characters(not including some of the best in the series), but the other half is going straight into Dance and will be out next year. Or the year after, or the year after, or the year after." and guess what? Even though it has a release date set- it still isn't finished. Like I said, I'd say there is a 30% chance winds of winter is out by 2016. If he does take that long for the remaining books, book 7- 2021 and a possible book 8-2026. Now I realize I sound really negative and I have lost 99% of my faith in George Martin( I really don't think you can excuse the time he's taking. Especially compared to other authors out there). However if he gets back on track and get a book out every 2/3 years it would be awesome and I would maybe almost forgive him. As to the season 4/5 issue. Any way they do it would suck. Even of they do all the characters, timeline wise they wouldn't be able to do much in season 4
April 11, 2011 at 8:30AM ESTjoel Ryan, considering the problem with ADWD is the same as the problem with AFFC, i don't think your point makes any difference. AFFC/ADWD was originally one book, ADWD. the reason AFFC took five years was the same reason ADWD took five more -- timeline issues that required multiple massive rewrites.
April 12, 2011 at 11:57AM ESTThe reason AFFC could come out first was that it concerned the storylines that didn't have anything to do with whatever gave him the timeline problem, apparently -- the dreaded "mereneesee knot" that took years to untie. but i guess he has finally done it.
jen
April 12, 2011 at 2:40PM EST Reply to CommentI am SO JEALOUS. My two main obsessions are GoT and food trucks. MAN!