What will we lose when daytime soaps go kaput?
"General Hospital" looks iffy and "All My Children" is exiting, but should we care?
Photo shoot with the hotties from "All My Children," "General Hospital" and "One Live to Live" - Chad Duell, John Paul Lavoisier, Trent Garrett, David Fumero, Jordi Vilasuso, Brandon Barash, Nic Robuck and David Gregory. (ABC/KEVIN FOLEY
One by one, they’re biting the dust: “All My Children†(September 2011) and One Life to Live (January 2012) are the latest casualties in the world of network daytime drama. And while “The Bold and the Beautiful,†“The Young and the Restless†“General Hospital†and “Days of Our Lives†are keeping the chat shows at bay, the status of one of those already looks a little shaky: with Katie Couric’s announcement that she’ll be debuting a syndicated talk show next year, ABC noted they’d like to use the weirdly elfin broadcaster  to fill the 3 p.m. slot – the time “GH†airs on its stations. While it doesn’t mean a certain end for “GH†(the chat shows “The Chew†and “The Revolution,†which are taking the place of “AMC†and “OLTL†could certainly fail, leaving an opening for “GHâ€), it does seem like another step closer to the end. But is that such a bad thing?
The end of soaps will mark the end of an era: Forget Brangelina. In the 80s, Luke and Laura of “General Hospital†defined the super couple. Sure, it wasn’t a perfect relationship, given that Luke raped Laura (hey, attitudes about sexual assault were less evolved back then), but when they finally wed in 1981, 30 million people tuned in – making that episode the highest rated in soap opera history to this day. To put that in perspective, this year the Oscars were watched by 37.6 million, a number that’s even less impressive given that there are now about 82 million more people in the U.S. These days you might be relive the punchlines of the latest episode of “Community†with a coworker or two, but you probably don’t gather in the lunch room (or set your VCR, since those don’t exist anymore) to watch the must-see program of the decade. Thanks to basic cable, out choices are limitless – but we as an audience are more fractured as well. It isn’t likely you watch the same shows as your spouse, your friends of ever your dog (he likes Animal Planet 24/7). Given that our society is increasingly divided, there’s something to be said for being able to connect over something, even if it’s a fake TV wedding.
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Login or create a HitFix account Login SignupBobby J
June 7, 2011 at 5:20PM EST Reply to CommentI think there still has to be a way to save soaps. My idea to save the soaps would be to try and bring soaps into the current times. Instead of five days a week, soaps should cut back to 3 days- Mon, Wed, and Friday. Then, cut the amount of actors down to about 8-15 people. If soaps still want to have these large casts, then they could create storylines that don't last as long, so that the flow of the show keeps moving. For instance, one way this could work is if you had a storyline dealing with Vicki, then for about 6 weeks (18 episodes using my format of 3 eps. a week) you have her and maybe 5 or 6 principal actors that would be involved with that storyline working. The other actors won't be paid or involved with the episodes for those six weeks. Then when the six weeks are up, a new storyline, say with Todd, could take place for six weeks involving his family, leaving out Vicki or anyone involved with the previous 6 weeks- unless the story dictated it, possibly for an episode or two. This could go on all year long or soaps could start to run a traditional season of September to May with no new episodes in the summer. Lastly, move the production of OLTL to Los Angeles to cut down on costs. I figure if someone that has access to the numbers could see if my idea could work, it might be worth a try.
Good ideas! Given that the soaps really do have to shake things up to stick around, they're going to have to consider ideas like this (even if actors miss the regular paychecks).
June 7, 2011 at 6:03PM ESTleemats
June 7, 2011 at 5:58PM EST Reply to CommentI don't think Christina Applegate was ever on Days of Our Lives. But I'm not an expert on the subject.
Well, she was just three months old -- her mom was Nancy Priddy, who had a recurring, uncredited walk-on role. Not much of a start for Christina's acting career, but she was there!
June 7, 2011 at 6:07PM ESTleemats I guess I can't argue with that. Perhaps the biggest "star" from Days is Mark Valley, of "Fringe" and "Human Target." Unless Jennifer Aniston ever appeared as a baby.
June 7, 2011 at 8:09PM ESTMary
June 8, 2011 at 1:29AM EST Reply to CommentYes I will miss them greatly, especially One Life to Live. No, I will never watch the drivel they will replace them with. i am still hoping that the executives get their heads out of their butts and keep them on air. They will get no where near the number of viewers that the soaps had. And yeah, duh, we already have a food NETWORK. We don't need a crappy new show with a bunch of gross, stupid sounding hosts to tell us how to fondue (the 1960's are over). No one even cooks anymore. We also don't need any more stupid weight loss challenge shows. Seriously, we have enough and eventually they'll run out of fat people to exploit. Then what will they do, fatten them back up? We also certainly don't need a Katie Couric talk show. Did they not understand that no one watched her on the nightly news? Why would we subject ourselves to a whole hour of her? If they truly cancel the soaps I will no longer watch anything on ABC daytime.
Siol Emseg
June 8, 2011 at 1:39AM EST Reply to CommentIf General Hospital goes off the air, my 82 yo mother will have a heart attack. (I can remember seeing it on our B&W TV when I was small)
Karen
June 8, 2011 at 7:12AM EST Reply to CommentI will really miss them. I run a soap website and I tell you what, there are a LOT of very loyal fans out there. Smart, funny and savvy people that are a great group.
ABC was so callous in how they chose to do this. One Life To Live has actually risen in the ratings this year quite a bit.
One last thought: this totally points out how ancient the Nielson ratings are. They never count Soapnet viewing, online streaming and DVR views. IT makes NO sense.
Sad.
CarrieT52
June 8, 2011 at 7:20AM EST Reply to CommentWe really need more coverage of this dying genre in the Main Stream Media..
carolyn white
June 8, 2011 at 7:44AM EST Reply to CommentYes I watch soaps, I have for over 30 years. I have passed the tradition down to my 16 year old daughter to keep the tradition going...Grandma, my mother, me and my daughter. Im so sad to think that My daughter might not be able to do the same. Executives at ABC don't realize what they are doing. Their replacements are substandard and not worth my time. There is an overload of these kind of shows and more is not better. Cheap watered down imitations of Oprah or the biggest loser. I look to scripted dramas to escape from the stress of the day, i really don't want to watch others problems in the form of a reality or talk show. I record my soaps to enjoy when i get home from work. A LOT of Soap fans do this but alas we are not counted and it gives ABC a reason to say Soap fans just don't watch anymore. Its Bull@#$. I won't be watching Katie C. and ABC has lost a loyal viewer. I will really miss my Soaps, its like family to me.
Eileen Oberman Ditto to everything u said!!!! Great letter! Did u know GH was 6 mths from cancellation? They hired GLoria Monty who created Laura and Scotty. Soon after Luke was brought in. That was 40 yrs ago. See a little tweeking and it stayed on the air. Long live soaps
June 9, 2011 at 11:14PM ESTJul h
June 8, 2011 at 7:56AM EST Reply to CommentI will miss soaps and will not be watching the new programs.
Yolanda
June 8, 2011 at 9:10PM EST Reply to CommentI love my soaps, I can't imagine not having them around. I will NOT be watching the shows that replace them. Who needs more talk/lifestyle shows? I'm going to fight to save the soaps.
Eileen oberman
June 9, 2011 at 11:03PM EST Reply to CommentI have been watching ABC soaps for 44 yrs, since I was 10. Being sick on &.off my entire life soaps became my pastime. I always said " I don't know what I would do w/out my soaps, just put me in a rubber room.
What is Disney/ABC thinking? Y put on shows that r already on a trillion channels? Oh yea it all comes down to the all mighty dollar$$! Well they will not only lose daytime viewers but prime time ones as well. I will keep watching desp hswvs, it probably only has 1 or 2 sessions left . If GH goes they r really gonna lose even more. Too bad they don't care that tons of people will b jobless and definitely care even less about the fans. I have always thought ABC was the best network. I no longer feel that and never will again. Y won't Disney keep soapnet and make a REAL soap network.??????
Mary
June 11, 2011 at 6:44AM EST Reply to CommentYes, I watch DAYS & OLTL. Will I watch any of their replacements? No. I have no desire to see more talk shows, court room shows or any of the other cheaply made shows on daytime.
Soaps kept me tuned in because I wanted to find out what happened next with the characters I grew emotionally attached to.
Francophile
June 11, 2011 at 4:18PM EST Reply to CommentHuh? General Hospital is on at 2:00 on the West Coast?
Joe
June 11, 2011 at 7:37PM EST Reply to CommentMost people grew up watching and soaps because it was the only thing on TV due to all the stay at homes watching them out of boredom or not knowing how to speak English. You grow up to appreciate soaps/mock them for their reidiculous storylines.
Network TV daytime soaps might be dying but there are web series' out there trying to keep them alive such as:
Venice
http://www.venicetheseries.com/
Adventures of The Hunky Pipe-fitter http://www.hunkypipefitter.com/
Imaginary Bitches
imaginarybitches.com/
Hopefully soap fans will tune online to find new stories while watching their old ones die.
chudleycannonfodder
June 12, 2011 at 7:56PM EST Reply to CommentDon't forget that Nathan Fillion was also on a soap way back when!
Angela Wagner
June 14, 2011 at 2:50PM EST Reply to CommentI have news for ABC. Once One Life To Live & All My Children are done I will NOT watch the 2 shows they have to replace the soaps. I am done with ABC except the soaps. If I want to watch a food show I'll go to food network NOT ABC.
Angela W
June 14, 2011 at 2:55PM EST Reply to CommentI stopped watching all ABC shows except OLTL & AMC. I will not watch the 2 shows that are scheduled to replace them. They sound stupid. If I want a food show I'll turn on the food network. Hope another network picks up One Life To Live!!!
caryn_greene
July 13, 2011 at 11:28AM EST Reply to CommentI hope Days NEVER ends - I love it!! Did you hear about this really exciting contest to meet EJ and Stefano on the Days Set and to appear with them in Soap Opera Digest? Check it out at http://www.classwish.org/days/fame