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'The Chew' vs. 'All My Children' - which one won the ratings war?

ABC gave the soap the boot due to poor ratings - but is its replacement any better?

"The Chew"

 "The Chew"

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In September, we bid adieu to "All My Children" to make room for the food-centric chat fest "The Chew." It wasn't hard to understand ABC's thinking behind the switch. Like most network soaps, "AMC" was losing viewers, and even with drastic budget cuts a cast of many is always going to cost more than five people plopped around a kitchen table yakking about osso bucco. ABC has gotten to see if pissing off devoted soap viewers was worth it, as the another week of ratings are in

So, who won? Technically, "The Chew." During the week of Nov. 22, the show brought in 2.51 million viewers -- slightly more than "AMC"'s 2.44 million during the same window last year. But "The Chew" can't proclaim victory quite yet. "AMC" still brought in more women 25-34 (1.3 vs. 1.1 rating) and 18-34 (0.5 vs. 0.4). 

This must all be salt in the wound for "AMC" fans, who recently learned that the show, despite much ballyhoo, wouldn't be making the transition to the Internet after all. Though I'm sure some hoped that, if "The Chew" had tanked, "AMC" might be brought back to the daytime line-up, that would have been a pipe dream (even once you factor in the newly announced exit of ABC Daytime President Brian Frons, the guy responsible for kicking "AMC" and "One Life to Live" to the curb). The very obstacles that blocked the show from making its online debut -- immovable unions and big expenses -- are the reasons prime time chose the cheaper option of a chat show anyway.

Still, it's sad to note another nail hammered into the soap opera coffin. Though I'm more interested in getting a good recipe out of Mario Batali than having to follow a never-ending storyline on a soap, it seems the daily drama is, like the CD and MySpace, a dying dinosaur we once took for granted but is destined for the scrap heap. At least we'll know how to make sweet potato chips at home. 

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Liane Bonin Starr is an author, screenwriter and former writer for EW.com. Her byline has appeared in the Los Angeles Times, Variety and a lot of other places. Her last book was called "a scandalously catty, guilty pleasure" by Jane magazine. Expect the same from Starr Raving.

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    DrGlitterhouse

    If you're going to write an article, write an article. If you're going write an editorial, write an editorial. This read like you're trying to pass off an editorial as an article; it has a very ham-fisted slant. And how how does 0.0 equate to more viewers than 0.7? Were you too busying towing the corporate line to get your facts straight?

    December 2, 2011 at 7:02PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Him Ummm...0.0 and 0.7 are age demographic, not overall viewership. According to this article/editorial the Chew had more viewers than AMC did last year Where did you get your Phd?

      December 2, 2011 at 7:25PM EST
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      Sean I guess you're too busy spewing vitriol to realize your comment already posted, and the second time with a typo no less.

      December 2, 2011 at 10:26PM EST
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      Yolanda Arias-Arenas Wow, an actual fan of The Spew? How much did ABC pay you to write this garbage? This show will fail just like a show on ABC called Mike & Maty. We love our scripted shows, one day the fans will ask for their shows back. ABC has just fractured the daytime audience for good.

      December 3, 2011 at 9:47PM EST
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    DrGlitterhouse

    WIf you're going to write an article, write an article. If you're going to write an editorial, write an editorial. This read like you're trying to pass off an editorial as an article; it has a very ham-fisted slant. Who cares what you'd rather watch, and how does 0.0 equate to more viewers than 0.7? You could have spared us your editorializing and gotten your facts straight.

    December 2, 2011 at 7:08PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Susan EnglishL

    And how much has ABC spent on marketing The Chew morning, noon, and nite? Also how many ABC stars have had to make guest appearances to draw ratings. All My Children never received this type of corporate support.

    December 3, 2011 at 12:14PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Shelley I wonder how much they have to pay the audience to sit through this pathetic show.

      December 19, 2011 at 9:37PM EST
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    Sue

    Sorry but I haven't watched this crap and will never. I am surviving just fine by watching reruns of AMC on soapnet(at least til it goes off the air).

    December 3, 2011 at 3:38PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Sue

    I WANT AMC back on ANY channel. ABC is going down!!!Write a comment...

    December 3, 2011 at 3:40PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Yolanda Arias-Arenas ABC is going down. They are showing nothing but crap. After OLTL is gone, buh bye ABC...

      December 3, 2011 at 9:41PM EST
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      Maura No more ABC for me or anyone in my household once OLTL is gone!

      December 3, 2011 at 11:32PM EST
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      Paula Schlager No more abc for me for anyone in the house not even disney

      January 8, 2012 at 1:30PM EST
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      LISA MARIE PRATT-GLENN I agree ABC is totally going to the shiter both daytime and at night with all these reality shows and talk shows , how many ways can we make an egg ? It's still an egg you won't see any of those shows last 40 and 43 years wake up ABC and I think some other station could have picked up AMC and OLTL that would have been a smart move for them

      January 19, 2012 at 5:02PM EST
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      Moira Quinn I agree that ABC has made a big mistake but boycotting ABC is hurting Gerneral Hospital. So only boycott "The Chew" and "The Revolution" . They are terrible shows anyway. We have to save GH

      February 3, 2012 at 4:59PM EST
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    Jewell

    The person that wrote this,your an ass. You want a recipe watch the fricken Food Network.. The rating system is outdated, I bet people are not DVR and Tivo The Chew, and that show will never last 42 years. The fans are angry at the way ABC handled the whole thing make the AMC cast move to LA then cancel it. They could have worked something out to save money for the soaps.

    December 3, 2011 at 3:55PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Brooke

    NEVER GONNA WATCH THE CHEW, but thanks for your ridiculous article & opinion. Glad I wasted my time reading it.

    December 3, 2011 at 5:00PM EST Reply to Comment
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    flamingolady

    ABC, when are you going to face the facts that All My Children can not be replaced? To even try and say otherwise is patently stupid and an outright untruth! Nice try, but we don't buy.

    December 3, 2011 at 5:10PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Linda

    The Chew's ratings may have went up slightly due to the holidays. Why? People thought the were going to get new recipes and tips to make their holidays easier. Will these viewers come back after the holidays? Personally, I doubt it. Now, on the other hand, the soap opera viewers came back not only day after day, but year after year. These shows have been on for over forty years. Why? People enjoy them. They need an escape. Do they need recipe advice, everyday? No. If ABC wants ratings they should have used the tools they had to market the soaps better. Then they would have had better ratings. Plus, they could have made loads of money on merchandizing. Face it, ABC just didn't want to put out the time and the effort. From now on, they will just place useless fluff onto their daytime airwaves and watch their entire "kingdom" fall into a shambles.

    December 3, 2011 at 5:50PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Mary Helmbrecht

    SO WHO "OWNS" YOU---ABC OR DISNEY??? THIS IS BULL-----HOW MANY AMC FANS ALSO WATCHED ONLINE, ON WEEKEND MARATHONS, AT NIGHT ON SOAPNET(ME) AND RECORDED IT TO WATCH LATER????? NOONE OF THOSE FANS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR AND NONE OF THAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE "SPEW" OR WILL HAPPEN WITH "THE REVOLUTION". THEY SHOULDN'T COUNT THEIR EGGS WITHOUT COUNTING THE ENTIRE BASKET!!!

    December 3, 2011 at 6:25PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Shana

    These numbers are based on Nielsen Ratings which we all have known to be inaccurate. It is obvious by all the noise the fans made,the base was way larger then expected!

    December 3, 2011 at 7:23PM EST Reply to Comment
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    PissedOff!

    Bullshit period! AMC wins it hands down as does any soap anytime over pitiful reality tv. ABC probably pumped their fingers hard on those few Nielsen boxes they were counting anyways!

    December 3, 2011 at 7:57PM EST Reply to Comment
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    PissedOff!

    Write a comment...Regardless of how many articles ever written comparing the two there is simply no comparison. Soaps rule and ABC are fools! Frons is leaving that is just a start him, the viewers, what will they say one day to back up their stats when no viewers are left. ABCD you are toast and you should know it by now. ON a downward decline real fast. No soaps means millions will defect to other networks, online viewing etc how ABC could not project this is beyond me.It just shows what idiots they truly are.They will have to wait many decades yes decades before all the soap fans die off. Guess what it will never happen!

    December 3, 2011 at 8:02PM EST Reply to Comment
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    SherryLH

    The ratings system is a joke! Were all the soap fans who dvr'd, tivo'd, watched on Soapnet or online ever counted? NOPE!! Now a days that is how the majority of fans watch their shows. Why? we have jobs and school during the day and our only option is/was to tape or watch it some other way I mentioned above. And does anyone really think these five people will ever be loved like our AMC actors? Anyone? Gee, I hear crickets chirping.....

    December 3, 2011 at 8:20PM EST Reply to Comment
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    KathyNYC

    You may be interested in getting a good recipe, I am personally not. If I were interested, there are a lot of cookbooks, cooking websites and shows on the Food Channel. There was only one ALL MY CHILDREN - and so it seems that food people have a gazillion options and soap fans have none. I haven't watched ABC Daytime in months - unlike the days where I couldn't wait to turn on ABC TV. I know I am only one but ABC lost me as a viewer. And yes..maybe if ABC really had any real interest in their soaps, they could have promo'ed them the way they are now promo-ing the Chew - 24/7 on many many stations. Then make a comparison that means something.

    December 3, 2011 at 8:33PM EST Reply to Comment
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    moneek

    This is not a Chat fest...it is a Fat fest. Yeah we all need to know how to eat bacon and fat food and then tune in January to try to get your life back.

    December 3, 2011 at 10:45PM EST Reply to Comment
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    roxy6934

    ABC has been staggering the start of it’s programming of OLTL for about a month now. So; when you turn to ABC at the time slot for OLTL; The Chew is still finishing up. I believe this was to increase the ratings. Therefore making it look like it’s getting better ratings than it actually is.

    December 4, 2011 at 12:48AM EST Reply to Comment
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      me me You're right. Once OLTL is gone. The Spew will circle the drain...

      December 20, 2011 at 9:52PM EST
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    ktsnicks

    The best way I can sum up this mess caused by ABC? Opal, AMC, said it best years ago: They're a couple sandwiches short of a picnic lunch! Go Opal! Idiots!

    December 4, 2011 at 2:10AM EST Reply to Comment
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    CTwildheart

    While I do understand about the cost, I don't believe people want to see more "reality" and informational shows. Scripted stories are entertaining and when I want food or life-stlyle information I can go to numerous cable channels and web sites. I have no desire to DVR these shows like I do for daytime dramas. And it's clear this writer has never really watched a 'soap', because while some storylines do seem to drag on...they are NOT never-ending. NEW stories are starting all the time, while others are in the middle or just wrapping up. It's a continual process of storytelling...just like life. And the way Disney/ABC handled the entire daytime saga has been deceitful and demeaning to longtime viewers. Many of us who had been loyal to ABC/D are moving away....and we will continue to do so until we are all gone.

    December 4, 2011 at 11:13AM EST Reply to Comment
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    fanaerosmith

    I used to watch ABC almost exclusively day and night because of my preference for ABC soaps. Now that the soaps are going away, so has my loyalty to ABC shows in general. I find myself wanting to choose other networks since ABC has betrayed me, and millions of former staunch devotees I am sure. My devotion to ABC goes way back into the early 70's when AMC and OLTL were just babies beginning the daytime scene. I can't imagine life without these 2 staples in my life. One thing I haven't done is tune into THE CHEW, nor do I have any intention of tuning into THE REVOLUTION. Here is something for you all at ABC to "CHEW" on: I will not be joining the "REVOLUTION" infact the more dumb choices you make with your programming the more I choose other shows on other networks. I am sure many other people are doing the exact same thing. I love The Young and The Restless and The Bold and The Beautiful now and am now faithful to them. I also watch Days of Our Lives on Soapnet only because it conflicts with Y&R and B&B. I love Soapnet for doing that and I hope they will put OLTL and B&B on the lineup along with Days and AMC which has been there since it was cancelled.

    December 4, 2011 at 6:44PM EST Reply to Comment
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    JLSM

    I personally have not watched one episode of the Chew and I never will! I wasn't a fan of AMC but I am a fan of OLTL and GH. I grew up with soaps and I love them as do many others and I feel no one took any consideration just how many pissed off fans there are. I truly hope any shows they replace a soap with tanks, not just tanks but f*$%+#g tanks. I pledge to never watch ABC daytime tv again. Why should we it's not like they care about us viewers?

    December 5, 2011 at 1:10AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Rick Wait til OLTL goes off the AIR and NO ONE switches the channel to ABC to watch OLTL anymore. ABC is playing games with the ratings by stealing viewers from OLTL. DVR folks have their DVR's set to record OLTL. It starts recording and the CHEW gets a ratings boost. It's FAKE. LIKE ABC, FAKE. NO ONE WANTS TO WATCH THE CHEW. IT SUCKS !!! PERIOD !!! BRING BACK AMC, BRING BACK OLTL. ABC WILL SUFFER. When OLTL goes off the AIR you will lose the Majority of ABC Daytime viewers, some will stick around and show support for GH but most Will not, since we all know you plan to replace GH with Katie Couric. NO ABC on MY TV.

      December 5, 2011 at 2:18PM EST
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    ricky

    The CHEW Sucks, PERIOD. ABC is CLUELESS and the new QVC of Daytime TV.

    December 5, 2011 at 2:20PM EST Reply to Comment
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    giftgivin-granny8

    I just wonder if ABC was thinking about all the baby boomers whom are at home now,do they think we need another talk show or what ever THE CHEW call itself to watch.Years we listened to tv radios or took days off to watch All My Children or all the ABC soaps,now that we are home all the time, do you think we are mindless young mothers with small children to chase....PLEASE.. Thank goodness for Dish Network atleast there I have a CHOICE.

    December 5, 2011 at 2:55PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Lesley Peter

    My question is this ... What will replace the tired and already worn out talk shows and reality shows that viewers are also tired of watching ... ALREADY! Soaps endured for decades, they made the transition to night time, prime time TV. I believe that these new shows are flashes in the pan. What trick are they going to pull out of the bag next? I watched the soaps online, a hold over from TV viewing, but I do not even watch TV these days. I stream the cream of the crop, movies, BBC, PBS and just a couple of very good TV shows. The future is in Streaming. The death of network television is on its way. The Chew is cheap entertainment and it shows. Buy cheap get cheap, and cheap doesn't last long, it falls apart and we buy better quality. ABC will be a casualty of its own Cheapness!

    December 6, 2011 at 5:27PM EST Reply to Comment
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    lesccs13

    I like many others wont watch The Chew. It is another silly reality TV show in the over crowded space of reality TV. Unfortunately, for ABC I also watched NBC and CBS soaps in the past and feel that returning to shows that I have not watched in 15yrs is a more enjoyable alternative to their silly shows. If I want to learn how to cook, and cook well the have an ENTIRE channel devoted to just that..why would I waste my time with this one. What a waste of time. I agree with others that these ratings (based on what I have seen else where) seem in acurate as well. Good luck ABC. I hope your sponsors still stick with you after this mess. You still have time to bring back our shows though...I'll always turn in to OLTL and AMC.

    December 7, 2011 at 12:00PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Constance S.

    You have got to be kidding!!! Do you honestly believe people are going to buy the idea that the stupid "Chew" is doing better then AMC. The Chew is a stupid show and if I see one more cooking show on TV I am going scream. It was just a cheap way to go! You really didn't care about the people's opinion! If you did the Chew would have been canceled already!!!!!!

    December 7, 2011 at 3:39PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Tammy Bowers

    One hour of THE CHEW is way too much! Gimme Food Network any day! ABC sucks for axing the soaps!

    December 7, 2011 at 3:45PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Tammy Bowers

    One hour of The Chew is an hour too much! Gimmee Food Network any day! ABC sucks for axing the soaps!

    December 7, 2011 at 3:47PM EST Reply to Comment
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    dottie

    I hate the Chew. Chew on this. AMC was more entertainment than this crap. Isn't TV a source of entertainment? That's why we have channel changers. Good buy ABC

    December 7, 2011 at 3:57PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Kimberly

    I haven't watched a single episode of The Chew and on principle will never watch The Revolution either. But I watch One Life To Live every day and only started watching 2 years ago.

    December 7, 2011 at 7:23PM EST Reply to Comment
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