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Second 'Avatar' trailer arrives on Pandora... er, online

If you're still not convinced, consider me baffled

<p>Jake (Sam Worthington) takes some archery lessons from Naytiri (Zoe Saldana) on the surface of Pandora in James Cameron's 'Avatar'</p>

Jake (Sam Worthington) takes some archery lessons from Naytiri (Zoe Saldana) on the surface of Pandora in James Cameron's 'Avatar'

Credit: 20th Century Fox

Last week, I took Toshi to see a film at a local theater, and after it ended, I found a manager in the lobby and asked if I could step into any of the auditoriums playing the new "Avatar" trailer just to take a look.

By the time it was done, Toshi told me that he wanted to go see "Avatar" right now, and was upset when I explained that it's still a few months away.  To him, it just seemed mean to see a trailer like that if you can't turn around and go buy your ticket immediately.

I kind of agree.

Each year, the studios all get one exemption each from the rules on standard trailer running time, and this year, Fox used their exemption on a giant 3 1/2 minute long "Avatar" trailer that not only fully explains the story but also hints at the scope and the drama of the film's second half. 

One of the reasons I roll my eyes at a lot of the early sturm und drang that erupts as online commenters see early footage from films in trailers or clips is because context is so important, and when you see the whole of something, you sometimes find that (shock!) it answers questions that a trailer doesn't.  One great example is the oft-repeated oh-so-smug meme of "Hey, if this is the future, why can't they fix Jake's legs yet?  HMMM? ANSWER ME THAT, KING OF THE WORLD!"

Well, sure enough, in the new trailer, there is an implication that they can indeed fix Jake's legs, and they even use that as the bait to get him to participate in the Avatar program.  Wanna bet they answer some of the other questions that people came up with after seeing fifteen minutes of footage from a three hour movie?

When I posted something about the ridiculous plagiarism charges that got people whipped into a frenzy last week, it turned into a sort of ugly back-and-forth in our comments section.  I'd like to ask you to try to limit yourself in terms of attacking other film writers (Devin Faraci may disagree with my take on "Avatar," but he and I can easily discuss it face to face without it getting nasty, so don't just pile on and call him names here, okay?) or myself (disagree with me all you want, but there's no need to make it personal), okay?

Now... here's the trailer, courtesy of Yahoo! Movies:

 

 

I love the design of Pandora, the scale of its ecosystem, and the beauty of what Cameron's imagined.  I think the Na'vi are gorgeous in motion, and they really do represent a different level of performance capture than anything we've seen before.  Even seeing the difference between what Cameron's done and what Zemeckis accomplished in "A Christmas Carol," it's fairly significant.

December 18th can't get here soon enough.

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    nick_r

    Fine, Drew, I guess this new trailer proves that you're not an alcoholic who beats your children after all. (But seriously: HOLY SHIT.)

    October 29, 2009 at 1:48PM EST Reply to Comment
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      transplanet Did you know Drew produces the correspondent segments on "The Jay Leno Show?" The horror!

      Avatar looks like a beautiful, fun way to spend a few hours in a theater. I look forward to the day when that's all it is judged by, regardless of how much money it'll make.

      October 29, 2009 at 1:57PM EST
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    stormshadow4life

    I commented about the new trailer in the other avatar blog.....but i will again. This trailer just blew me away! Why they didn't start with this I have no idea! The teaser left me cold and unimpressed....this, this is just awesome! Certainly better than any cutscene I've ever seen. i REALLY hope that music is in the actual movie...if it's not, i'll be disappointed.

    October 29, 2009 at 1:59PM EST Reply to Comment
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      snoochies The music is from The Island

      October 29, 2009 at 8:34PM EST
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    Doctor Silberman

    THIS VIDEO IS NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCATION. The movie will be awesome, but the promotion is horrible.

    October 29, 2009 at 2:01PM EST Reply to Comment
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    drew

    Transplanet, accusing me of working for the Jay Leno show is the single meanest thing anyone has ever said about me online.

    October 29, 2009 at 2:21PM EST Reply to Comment
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    odysseus

    Visually, the film looks great. I'm just a little disappointed that the story seems so trite. If there's more to it, then the trailer should have hinted at the other layers. But with the ham-fisted dialogue it showcased, I fear the worst about Avatar being a preachy 'civilization bad/natives good' movie.

    October 29, 2009 at 2:33PM EST Reply to Comment


  • I'm still skeptical, but this is a SMART trailer. I think the POTENTIAL for the "Injured Jake" plotline to be mangled still very much exists; as with all movies, it's going to depend, like has been noted, on context and execution. If they gloss over why he's in a manual wheelchair and why the military is bribing him with new legs, people are going to be rightly pissed. If they come up with something that seeds a solid storyline, we could be in for something special. I figure we owe them the chance to show us.

    I'll say this too: if you're not (or unfortunately can't) watching the trailer in HD, you are missing out. At 1080P the animation is STUNNING. Watch the faces closely - I can promise you've never seen mostly-human features reproduced with this kind of fluidity. Any reservations I had about the CG are gone now. Now I'm just holding out hope that there's a little more originality to Pandora beyond what seems to be a simple rocky-rainforest compilation. Suffice to say that, a couple of things still holding back outright excitement, they've done a good job of convincing me that this is going to work.

    October 29, 2009 at 2:55PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Rl

    This is by far the best CGI work that has ever been accomplished before, this is going to blow away viewers on all screens but 3D IMAX is truly going to be something to behold.

    For everyone who feels like the story is trite and replayed, you're wrong. Some of the themes have been seen in other movies, but the plot has never been done in a movie before. Please save your criticisms until you're sure of it. You can't say what the story is of a 3 hour movie if you've only seen 3 minutes of it. And CHUD sucks.

    October 29, 2009 at 3:03PM EST Reply to Comment
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      odysseus My point was that the trailer made the theme seem trite, therefore I'm less intrigued by the story because I feel like I've seen it a hundred time before. If the trailer is inaccurate, then they did the film a disservice. If it is accurate, then I'm simply not hooked.

      October 29, 2009 at 3:33PM EST
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    David

    Drew, the effects do look great. But the story? Come on...we have seen this before and we know how it ends. To me this is tragic waste. All of these effects to remake Dances With Wolves. Why couldn't he just have made HALO?

    October 29, 2009 at 3:31PM EST Reply to Comment
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      drew So you'd rather have a video-game adaptation? Really? When 90% of that games aesthetic is just regurgitated Cameron? You contradict yourself mightily.

      October 29, 2009 at 3:33PM EST
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    Nicole

    I'm on the same page as you and Toshi, Drew. I can't wait to see this movie.

    October 29, 2009 at 4:16PM EST Reply to Comment
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    lazygarfield

    Really great trailer but Drew, when we we open YOUR site to see an article about (when there are 30 other sites covering it too).. we do so because we like hearing your opinion about it.

    Everyone can cut-copy-paste the link from Yahoo!, it is your opinion that makes you unique. And in the end, if you just speak about the actual content for so short, then it is a bit of a letdown. We want more. It is a 3.5 minute long trailer! Discuss everything in it!

    October 29, 2009 at 5:05PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Nada

    Devin Faraci is filled with nothing but petty insults and knuckle dragging namecalling, so I don't see how you can say he deserves better. He set the mood. He doesn't do it to you because he likes you (and because he knows he'll meet you face to face eventually).

    October 29, 2009 at 5:09PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Scott

    Anybody who thinks that some of those effects shots don't like 100% photo real needs to explain why they don't to me. I'm so happy how the dialogue scenes look with the digital creatures, it looks absolutely fantastic.

    I agree the plot does seem a little Dances With Wolves, but DWW didn't have epic battle scenes like this. I'd bump my excitement up from "looks decent" to "can't wait."

    October 29, 2009 at 5:28PM EST Reply to Comment
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    damned-dirty-ape

    I have to agree with Drew on this. People these days seem far too eager to attack something for the smallest reason in a small segment of a film that is still months away. Being in a talk back used to be fun. It used to be a place where you could have an intelligent conversation and a laugh but now people seem so bitter that they have to shout out their opinion and will not listen to anybody elses without replying with a tirade of abuse. I have to admit, this site is muc better than most and seems have have a more stable type of talkbacker, but there are some who are completely insane. Rant over.

    October 29, 2009 at 5:40PM EST Reply to Comment
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    damned-dirty-ape

    Oh, and Cameron hasn't let us down yet. I have faith that he's going to give us something worth the wait.

    October 29, 2009 at 5:43PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Blast hHardcheese

    Bored me to tears. Yes, it's long, and it gives away every single story beat. Yes, I'm sure the finale will be wicked cool with power-armor soldiers blowing away all and sundry, but I don't feel like paying 10 bucks just to see a Brundlefly mix of Dances with Wolves and Bravehart IN SPAAACE!

    October 29, 2009 at 6:44PM EST Reply to Comment
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    whiterok

    October 29, 2009 at 7:33PM EST Reply to Comment
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    whiterok

    Remarkable! Thanks Drew for posting this. I am also amazed at the vitriol people are hurling at Cameron. I mean really, what a waste of energy. I know I can at least enjoy this for the technical experimentation that it is, but with Cameron I do expect much more. Can't wait, this will be epic!

    October 29, 2009 at 7:39PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Fred.

    NEEDS GIANT ROBOTS.

    October 29, 2009 at 10:16PM EST Reply to Comment
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      southafricanguy Cry me a river Drew. That asshole deserves all the personal attacks he gets.

      He is a liar (he so obviously has a serious personal agenda with both Fox and Cameron, but he will still say he is objective. Why not be honest about his hate upfront?) Why does nt he tell the truth behind his personal vendetta against this film?

      He is a coward and a scumbag. He is doing his best to promote a smear campaign against the film, and is also trying to promote legal action against Cameron. He would never say these things to Cameron's face, would he?

      He is a sad, pathetic piece of shit. And he is beyond childish. If he was a print journalist Drew, he would have bben sued by now, but as he gets to hide behind the internet, he can say whatever he wants, who cares if its true or not...right Drew?

      I have always respected your thoughts and opinions, but I really have lost respect for you defending the the biggest loser and asshole on the internet......

      October 30, 2009 at 12:05AM EST
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    southafricanguy

    Tell me Drew....why has nt Fuckhead Farci launched such a campaign against District 9 for being such an obvious and blatant " ripoff" of Alien Nation? Gee, just maybe because he does nt have a personal issue or agenda against that filmaker or studio......

    October 30, 2009 at 3:22AM EST Reply to Comment
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      drew Here's the thing, sir... the proper forum to respond to Devin Faraci would be at CHUD. I do not want these comment sections to become a forum to beat on anyone repeatedly, especially when he's not even a writer here. I want to encourage you to steer the conversation back to the things you like or are excited about, and if Devin upsets you that much, let's talk about what you're interested in and leave the talk of Devin to his site. That's my point. And let's try to keep things a little more family-suitable. I drop an f-bomb from time to time, of course, but I think in general, let's try to raise the conversation.

      I encourage you to consider what I've said, and the spirit in which I've said it. It's always better to focus on the things that excite us instead of wallowing in the things that upset us... yes?

      October 30, 2009 at 3:27AM EST
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    Andy

    After the ticketing fiasco for the preview screenings and the debacle of the teaser download from Apple, surely nothing else can go wrong?
    "Not available for download from your location"
    I'm in the UK, not the Gobi bloody desert! This is the worst promotion of a major movie I've ever come across.

    October 30, 2009 at 6:50AM EST Reply to Comment
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    JoeK

    Some people just want to be pissy. Trying to reason with someone like these Avatar haters is like trying to take a breath in space - it's pointless and you will probably die trying.

    I can get that some people just might not be interested based on setting, genre or whatever (though that would seem a curious attitude...especially if you otherwise like genre stuff) but alot of this noise is just enabled by the internet and unfortunately fed by channels that need to traffic in such discussions.

    I'm not knocking you or your coverage of Avatar to date at all Drew (because it has virtually been the only sane stuff out there) but I think we need to just move past the people campaigning for its demise or otherwise being casually dismissive of it. It's become something of an internet badge to crap on anything anticipated, like it signifies some plane of higher standards when it's in fact the same permanent stance of irreverent irreverence that is the longtime hallmark of immaturity.

    If anything I think this has to do with the fact that the generation after ours (I'm about the same age as you Drew) has very little in the way of their own pop culture to celebrate. This is partly because ours is now nauseatingly repackaged and resold to them relentlessly and so they reject it or anything originating from people that were prominent in it (Lucas, Spielberg, Cameron, take your pick) by reflex to the point that they can't accept anything that might possibly have some tie to that tradition - - - even if it's something mostly new and exciting like Avatar...which sounds strange because I'm certain that it's probably (at least technically) going to be like nothing we've ever seen before.

    October 30, 2009 at 10:26AM EST Reply to Comment
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      David I saw the trailer in HD on Fox Sunday. Looked very pretty. But all the effects in the world can't change the fact that the story is super lame. Are all of you so easily wowed by flash and glitz? Does substance matter to any of you?

      Yes, Cameron made Aliens and Terminator, two of the best syfy movies ever. But what made those movies great wasn't so much the effects, but the story.

      There is no question the CGI in Avatar is wonderful. But we have seen this "Trail of Tears" story before. Putting mechs and gunships in place of blood thirsty US Army Calvary doesn't make the story any better. I don't know about you, but I was cheering for Hicks and Hudson in Aliens, not the bugs. But here the good guys are the peaceful, nature loving Navi...and the bad guys are the ones with the cool hardware. Personally that is not a story that interests me. I want to see said cool hardware kick ass...not be turned into a metaphor for the evils of capitalist industrialization.

      I do want the movie to fail…not because of the effects, but because I disagree with the message of the movie.
      .

      November 2, 2009 at 10:55AM EST
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      SHADOW I love how you've already determined the message of the movie a month before it premieres.

      November 2, 2009 at 1:40PM EST
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      Justin Yea! I'm with you. I also want the movie to fail. How dare a group of people try to make something to entertain me, all for about ten or fifteen dollars. The gall. I truly hope this movie fails and they all lose their jobs.

      November 3, 2009 at 12:49AM EST
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    warblecroaker

    Just spectacular. Gives a good idea of the story and the very impressive scope of both the futuristic battle machines and the alien biodiversity. Can I have my own Avatar?

    October 30, 2009 at 12:05PM EST Reply to Comment
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    kwisatzhaderach

    I've been waiting for a new cameron sci-fi for 18 years... and it looks like Cameron is back in full force. This man does not know how to do anything without passion and 125% commitment. My prediction: Avatar shows up Abrams, McG, Bay, Sommers, Wiseman and Ratner as the hacks they so obviously are. They will have no respose to Avatar. It will be interesting to see if audiences demand more from their populist filmmakers after this, or if they slide back into accepting lazy reboots, prequels, sequels, remakes and comic-book movies.

    Hail to the king baby.

    October 30, 2009 at 7:49PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Shaun Kronenfeld

    Frak yeah. Now that is what I call a trailer. I've had no strong feelings either way about the film but was content to wait until the film actually came out to judge. Radical I know but it might just work. Their is definite potential here and if any director can channel an imidiatly seemingly well worn story into something fresh and exciting its Cameron. Here is hoping.

    October 30, 2009 at 8:25PM EST Reply to Comment
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    JDR

    Thank you for being a voice of reason in this insane online community. A breath of fresh air, really, I won't go on and on, but you are definitely appreciated. Keep up the good work!

    November 4, 2009 at 2:51PM EST Reply to Comment

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