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Review: 'TRON: Legacy" dazzles visually, but ultimately disappoints

Is it enough to just look and sound great?

<p>Garrett Hedlund starts to suspect he may be in trouble in a moment from Disney's megabudget new sequel, "TRON: Legacy"</p>

Garrett Hedlund starts to suspect he may be in trouble in a moment from Disney's megabudget new sequel, "TRON: Legacy"

Credit: Walt Disney Company

In 1982, when the original "TRON" was released, I was a wee lad of 12 years old.

I feel like I should offer up some thoughts on the original film because it may help you gauge what you should think about my review of the new mega-budget sequel to the film, "TRON: Legacy," which arrives in theaters on December 17th on a wave of hype that is as big as Disney can possibly generate.  They've been building to this moment for a while now, ever since that reveal of the test footage at Comic-Con.  They've bet big on this one, and they're already working on an animated spin-off and talking about making more sequels.  And all of that makes sense… if the film is good.

So in 1982, I was already a rabid movie addict, and that summer was, in my opinion, the single best genre year of my lifetime.  And not just up till the point, but still.  It was a preposterous avalanche of great genre films, and I soaked it all up happily. 

I even ran a whole series of articles about the subject over at Ain't It Cool back in 2007, in which I had different writers tackle different films from that summer that they loved or that were important to them.  Harry wrote the article on "TRON," and I wrote an introduction for that piece which I'll reprint here:

"I published the first article in this series a couple of weeks ago, and the reaction to it was pretty great.  Nordling kicked it off with his look back at the summer of "E.T.,"  and I talked a bit about my preoccupation with getting around the ratings of movies as a 12-year-old movie geek.

Of course, this was before I was a movie geek. It’s before I’d ever heard the term movie geek. Fandom was much lonelier when I was growing up. Sure, I had friends who were big fans of various things, but not everyone, and certainly the guys who were really movie crazy the same way I was were few and far between.

At the age of 12, I was living in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and I felt like I was a million miles from all the things that I was interested in. I was a weird kid, already desperate to get closer to the way movies were made. I read everything I could get my hands on. I treated each new issue of Starlog like homework, devouring it several times over until I could regurgitate the material within. I loved the coverage of the cinematographers, the production designers, the FX guys. I loved seeing behind the curtain. I wanted to know who helped create these amazing worlds I was seeing when I went to the theater.

I remember reading about "TRON" and thinking it sounded like a big crazy hoax. Like there was no way they were really doing what they said they were doing. They said they were going to make a movie about a guy who gets sucked into a computer, and it was going to be like "Mary Poppins," but for the stuff inside the computer, all the animation... was going to be done by a computer! It just wasn’t possible. I was pretty nuts about video games, and I had seen what the best graphics at the time were like, and I was sure that in my infinite-12-year-old wisdom, I knew what the limitations of the computer were because of my time spent in an arcade.

The first time I saw TRON, having already played the videogame and having already heard the score and having already memorized every still released, I wanted to make sure it was going to be the best. So I talked my parents into a trip to the Chattanooga Choo-Choo, the only 70MM screen in the area. It was a giant single screen complex, designed to be part of the tourist attraction. And they typically booked event movies. Despite the presence of the hotel and the theater, the area around that part of downtown Chattanooga was, politely put, pretty shitty. Even so, my parents turned the day into an event, braving a trip a few blocks into the neighborhood for lunch at an Italian dive called Mom’s that was, according to my Dad, the best Italian food in the city. And afterwards, stuffed with a meatball sammich and ripe with hype, I pretty much lost my mind for the movie. More importantly, for the way the movie looked. It was 2001 for the videogame generation, and it rocked me.

When I first started talking to Harry about doing this series, I knew I wanted Harry to be the one to write about 'TRON,' and when he heard the premise for the articles, he immediately IM’d me back: 'I get 'TRON,' fucker.' He showed it at BNAT for a reason... he loooooooves this movie. Unabashedly and completely. He gets why this one felt so important that summer. He remembers... and that’s what this series is all about."

And all of that is true.  At the age of 12, I did fall for "TRON," head over heels.  Part of it was the game that they also released to arcades, part of it was the cutting-edge nature of the film, and part of it was the heady mix of ideas in the film.  But over time, revisiting the movie, much of what I liked initially faded, and my opinion of the film changed quite a bit.  I still think the film is significant for how it looks and for some of the ideas in the movie, but I think the movie itself has some fatal dramatic flaws.  Steven Lisberger is a smart guy, and even a visionary in some ways.  His film predates Internet culture, but in a way, it is the first major piece of film fiction about Internet culture.  The idea of avatars based on users and an entire universe that only exists inside a computer is something that seems positively commonplace these days.  If you're reading these words, then you at least partially live online yourself.  I also think the lightcycles are one of the coolest SF film ideas since the lightsaber, and iconic.  Brilliant, even.

But as a film?  "TRON" really doesn't work.  It's poorly staged, poorly paced, and never quite brings all its ideas together.  It is a visual marvel, but inert.

In almost every way, "TRON: Legacy" is a perfect sequel to that first film.  It also is a visual marvel, with many good ideas in it, and yet somehow almost completely inert as a film.   It is a truly terrible, sloppy, half-assed script by Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz, and no amount of spectacle can distract me from just how much the film disappoints as drama. 

Joseph Kosinski has been the biggest question mark on this film since he was first hired for the job, and based on this first film, he strikes me as a guy who would make a stupendous production designer and/or FX supervisor.  As a director?  Mmmmm… not so much.  Like Lisberger before him, Kosinski appears to have a tin ear for performance and tone and how to build a scene for any sort of dramatic impact.   Image after image in this film, Kosinski knows how to dazzle, and it helps that Daft Punk appear to have been genetically engineered for the sole purpose of writing the score for this film.  But by about halfway into the film, I found myself completely disconnected from what I was watching, and utterly discouraged.

The largest failing of "TRON: Legacy" is that, unlike the original film, this movie does not look forward in any way, and it does not seem interested in any larger ideas.  Instead, it is yet another tiresome "chase the doodad" action movie with a curiously small amount of action in it.  I am so tired of watching films in which people chase around some magical item that will "destroy the world" while other people chase them around.  I think the stakes in these movies are just horseshit. 

In this case, the magical doodad in question is the identity disc on the back of Flynn (Jeff Bridges), the returning character from the first film.  At the end of the original, Flynn had defeated the MCP and Sark, the alter-ego of his corporate opponent, Dillinger (both played by David Warner) and taken control of the company he started, ENCOM.  The new film begins several years later, after Flynn has built ENCOM into a sort of proto-Microsoft.  He tells his young son Sam a story about the world of Tron and how he's on the verge of a major breakthrough, a miracle of sorts.  Flynn vanishes that night, never finishing his story to his son, and Sam grows into a surly adult, played by Garrett Hedlund, who spends his time avoiding responsibility and pranking the company that his father left behind.

Flynn, of course, vanished back into the computer world, and the film has to get through a lot of shoe leather before it manages to throw Sam Flynn into the computer world as well.  Sam, disoriented and confused, is picked up by a Recognizer and sentenced to the Games.  He is taken to a facility where they dress him in one of the light-up Tron outfits, slap an identity disc on his back, and then throw him out into the Disc Wars for the film's first big action sequence.

The first act of the film worried me as I was sitting in the theater.  I thought all of the plot acrobatics and "character" was wasted energy.  The character work is facile, surface-only, and almost entirely expository.  And the plot mechanics were so uninteresting, so labored, that I found myself wishing I had a fast-forward button just to get Sam into the computer.  The most interesting move Kosinski makes in the whole film is just a lift from "Wizard Of Oz," with the film playing in 2D up to the moment Sam arrives inside the computer and the whole thing suddenly opens up to full gorgeous 3D.  Neat feeling while you're watching, but it's a tech trick.  That's all.  Thematically, that doesn't add anything to the movie, and that seems to be the problem with all of the cool tricks Kosinski throws at the thing… thematically, there's nothing going on.  It's all just eye candy, pure sugar, and no substance.

For a film with very little narrative thrust, "TRON: Legacy" still ends up being needlessly convoluted, and part of that seems to be the naked, almost grotesque attempts at setting up a franchise at the expense of coherence or any sense of satisfaction.  A good example of what I mean takes place very near the start of the film, in what feels like a reshoot even if it's not one.  There's an ENCOM board meeting that Sam Flynn interrupts with an Internet prank, and during that meeting, there's a casual introduction to the son of Dillinger, David Warner's character in the first movie.  When they cut to Dillinger 2.0, or whatever his name is, it's Cillian Murphy.  I was shocked since I haven't seen his name attached to any publicity for the film, and I thought, "Oh, wow, they managed to keep the film's villain so completely under wraps that I didn't even know he was in the film!"  Nope.  Those three or four lines of dialogue represent the sum total of Murphy's work in the film.  There's no further reference to him, no effort to incorporate him into the story… nothing.  He's just introduced and then abandoned, and it feels like this big giant obvious blinking red light.  "WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS INTO A FRANCHISE AND THIS IS THE BAD GUY NEXT TIME AND WE JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW AND ISN'T THAT COOL?"  Well… no, actually, it's not.  When you cast someone like Cillian Murphy and you introduce him as a major character with a key connection to the first film, that casting indicates that this isn't a bit part.  And when you never return to him in the entire movie, it fells like naked franchise building.  How about you tell me one complete good story first, and then we can talk about sequels?

The more egregious example, and this is a spoiler, so consider yourself warned, is the way they handle Tron himself.  After all, this film isn't called "FLYNN: Legacy," is it?  And Bruce Boxleitner, who played both Alan and Tron in the original, is back reprising his role as Alan, so it's obvious you have the right cast to bring Tron back.  Without saying exactly how they handle the character, I'll just say that he is indeed represented in the film, but again… as soon as the movie introduces him in this new context, that's it  He's gone.  Out of the movie.  And in such a way that they might as well throw up the subtitle "THIS WILL BE IMPORTANT… NEXT TIME."  Again, screw you and your next time.  Unless my ticket stub for "TRON: Legacy" is going to get me in to see the next film, you've failed in the basic task of telling me a story.  This entire thing just feels like act one and a big chunk of act two, with nothing to bring the various story threads together.

The real bad guy in the film, as the ad campaign has promised, is Clu, also played by Jeff Bridges.  The thing is, Clu is the digital avatar that Flynn created when he was still in his 30s, and Clu still looks exactly like the young Flynn.  There are several scenes in the film where Clu and Flynn play opposite each other, and many scenes in which other actors interact with the youthful Clu.  As long as the character isn't speaking, the illusion is so good it's creepy.  But the moment he talks, the mouth ruins the trick.  Ultimately, if I loved the movie in every other way, Clu wouldn't bother me, but it feels like Clu represents the film as a whole.  He looks right for the most part, but there's something key about him that doesn't work. 

In fact, if I had to describe the film in the most concise way, I would call it a Fleshlight.  If you don't know what that is, go look it up (as long as you're not at the office.)  It is, in my opinion, the perfect way to sum the film up.  It looks like the real thing, and it might get you off, but it is plastic, phony, and utterly soulless.

I apologize for the scattered way I'm organizing my thoughts here… I wasn't planning on publishing this review until December 5th, but the timetable got shifted, and so I'm scrambling here to try and give voice to all my conflicted thoughts on this one.  Like I said, it was the Disc Wars scene where I really started to worry, because as cool as the ideas are in the scene, and as compelling as the Disc Wars are in theory, it's almost an inaction scene.  It's so cool, so focused on how it all looks, that there's no threat to the scene.  The same is true of the big lightcycle scene, and that bums me out more than almost anything else about the film.  They are such an iconic, amazing creation, and the game grid that they battle on has been redesigned by Kosnisnki, just as the Disc Wars stadium was, and like that earlier scene, the action looks and sounds furious, but it's uninvolving.  There's really only one other big action scene in the film, much later, and as soon as someone said "Lightjets," I was hooked.  Taking the notion of the battle from the lightcycles and adding in the ability to fly sounds like an opportunity for something we've never seen before.

Instead, what we get is a beat-for-beat, nearly line-for-line recreation for the scene in the original "Star Wars" where Luke and Han battle the TIE fighters.  And, no, I'm not exaggerating.  It is a stunning lift, and of all films to steal from so blatantly… "Star Wars"?  Really?  I don't buy it as "homage," either.  It's an entire sequence, not just a nodding reference.  And as soon as that scene ended, essentially wrapping up what little action the film features, I realized that I'd gone well past "disinterested" in what I was watching.  A sort of naked hostility set in, and I found myself angry about the missed opportunity unfolding in front of me.

How many times have you read the description now of Quorra, the character played by Olivia Wilde, as a "warrior"?  Well, that description is the only way you'd ever know she's a warrior, because there's no evidence of that in the film.  And, yes, it's fair to hold them to that description.  In the interview I did with Wilde, she compares her character to Joan of Arc.  Uhhhh... I don't think so.  It's a shame, too, because Wilde gives the best performance in the movie.  She is an artificial being struggling to understand what it is to be alive and human, and Wilde invests Quorra with more life than anyone else onscreen.  She has one moment, in the film's final images, that was the one thing in the entire film that actually affected me, and in that moment, I got a glimpse of the movie that "TRON: Legacy" could have been, and leaving me with that glimpse is what finally broke me for good.  Nothing offends me more in a film than real potential squandered.  When I sit through something awful like "Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakuel" with the kids, it doesn't offend me because I have no expectations for a film like that.  If it ends up being awful, who is surprised?  Who expected anything else? With this movie, there is so much good work that's been thrown at this to no avail that it's just painful.

When you learn why everyone wants the magic doodad disc, it is a ridiculous notion, a premise that seems like a really bland and disappointing scheme by a generic bad guy.  There's a sort of cursory attempt to make Clu a tragic villain, made a monster by his creator, but introducing an idea by paying it mere lip service is not the same as actually exploring an idea in-depth, and that is a mistake that "TRON: Legacy" makes over and over.  Even the idea of a father-son connection as the emotional anchor for the film is, at best, a sort of half-hearted effort.  What's really strange is the way the structure of this film is very close to the structure of the original, right down to the use of a Solar Sailor at a specific point in the story.  It feels like they were afraid to try anything new here, and that's a weird idea, since the first film is practically experimental abstraction on a studio level.  It's a safe sequel, timid and tired on a story level even if it's bold and bombastic on the surface.

I'm also disappointed by the way they handle Flynn in the film.  Since they throw away Tron completely, everything falls on Flynn, and there are some great images in the film of the older Bridges in character.  The first time Sam sees him inside the computer world is striking, with Bridges as a sort of digital Buddha, and there's another moment a little later when Flynn shows up in the End of Line club, ready to kick some ass, where it feels like the film is about to get amazing.  And almost immediately, they back off.  It's confusing and sad.  It feels like they didn't bother writing any dialogue for Bridges.  His whole "Hey, man, like, wow, dude" act in the film is funny in fits and starts, but it doesn't feel like he's playing a character.  He's Obi-Wan Lebowski, mixing fake profundity with hippie-dippie language.  I love Bridges, but it's like they had no idea what to do with him here.  Michael Sheen shows up and chews more scenery than Nick Nolte in the final act of Ang Lee's "Hulk."  Most of the other performers in the film feel like furniture, like they've been given nothing to do.  There's no pulse to this world, and so it all just feels like travelogue filed with preposterous conversations about story points that just don't matter.

In the end, it is not a film that I find truly awful.  There are too many things in it that I enjoyed looking at or listening to, and I assume the soundtrack will end up in permanent rotation in my car.  I plan to see the film at least one more time in IMAX with some friends, just so I can look at the way Kosinski played with the aspect ratio in the IMAX version, and just so I can bask in the surface of the film one more time.  But the disappointments of the movie are real and profound and insurmountable, and the various elements of the film just don't add up.  This is, as I said, a major gamble for Disney, and I assume they may make some of their money back.  But I can't imagine this film will inspire any real passion in new viewers, and even those who love to wallow in nostalgia will find their goodwill tested by it.  "TRON: Legacy" exists as sad proof that this franchise's real legacy is pretty pictures and little else.  And that is no fun to report.  No fun at all.

End of line.

"TRON: Legacy" opens in theaters everywhere on December 17th.

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    brightgeist

    FIRST! now i'll read it and hope there are now spoilers

    December 3, 2010 at 11:07AM EST Reply to Comment
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      brightgeist *no spoilers

      December 3, 2010 at 11:08AM EST
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    Le Vicious Fishus

    Great review, Moriarty.

    And disappointing. Man, this was the follow up to TRON. Was so hoping it was going to be damn good.

    December 3, 2010 at 11:18AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Bob

    Did you actually see this film? How come this is the only review I can find (Google News 12-03-10)? Alot of the items mentioned in the review refer to stuff that has been avaialble for months.

    December 3, 2010 at 11:35AM EST Reply to Comment
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      Dryden Are you serious?

      December 3, 2010 at 11:58AM EST
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      drew Bob, I'm going to assume you are totally unfamiliar with my work. Yes... I saw the film. I can't imagine why any professional film critic would lie about seeing a movie.

      That is a very insulting question.

      December 3, 2010 at 12:00PM EST
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      bob Drew,

      You are correct - I never heard of you or your work before I Googled "Tron:Legacy review" on 12-3-2010.

      No insult intended. I just find it pecuilar in this digital age that there is only one review posted anywhere.

      Thank you for your reply,
      Bob.

      End of line.

      December 3, 2010 at 12:16PM EST
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      drew Intended or not, are you in the habit of calling people liars based on absolutely nothing?

      There are other reviews out there. Rotten Tomatoes has two already on the "TRON: Legacy" page, and Ain't It Cool ran one yesterday morning.

      Do a little legwork before you start accusing people of dishonesty.

      December 3, 2010 at 12:23PM EST
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      Bob I'll wait for Roger Ebert's review.

      December 3, 2010 at 12:48PM EST
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      Randle McEverret Despite the fact that the review is obviously real, I find it funny that Drew is getting offended by some internet chat personality over this. Like writing an early review of a film is important in anyway? Drew didn't have anything to do with the creation of the film, but he is just chiming in with his two cents. I guess I do appreciate that Drew is more honest them most fan boy reviewers, but in reality its just an over glorified twitter/facebook post.

      December 3, 2010 at 1:10PM EST
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      jazzgalaxy It's kind of confounding, Bob, that you went looking for a review of a movie that doesn't come out for 2 weeks expecting to find something and then disbelieve that it's an authentic review.

      The logic there is Tea Party-esque.

      December 3, 2010 at 1:37PM EST
    • Hey Randle and Bob... go fuck yourselves.

      December 3, 2010 at 1:45PM EST
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      Mdoc Ebert rarely publishes his reviews until a day or 2 before release Bobby.

      December 3, 2010 at 3:51PM EST
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      Bob At least I heard of this website (Seinfeld anyone?):
      http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/12/03/tron-legacy-review/

      December 3, 2010 at 5:05PM EST
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      bomb20 it´s nice that you are now satisfiedbobby :-) now off ya go you and play somewhere else ya li´ll rascall :-))
      very on the spot review btw! tnx drew!

      December 7, 2010 at 11:42AM EST
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      Morrow @Drew calm down dude. That guy was asking an honest question.

      December 8, 2010 at 4:42AM EST
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      TOM @Morrow: Yes... unfortunately that question was "It seems like you didn't really see this movie and just pretended you did. Is that true?" Gee, can't imagine why someone would get touchy over an "honest question" like that...

      December 9, 2010 at 4:43PM EST


  • Thanks for the Cillian Murpy info. Back in July 2008, I talked my wife into coming with me to the Dark Knight press screening by promising her that Murphy (whom she 'fancies') would indeed return. She still hasn't forgiven me for his 10 second cameo. I think I shall play the same trick again...

    December 3, 2010 at 11:40AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Marco

    Terrible news Drew. You are one of the few reviewers I trust and it is really sad to be reading this.

    December 3, 2010 at 11:41AM EST Reply to Comment
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    justin

    At least I know to lower my expectations when I go see this.

    December 3, 2010 at 11:50AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Seany-Wan

    I was wondering where Tron fits in "Tron:Legacy". I trust you Drew and I am now officailly WORRIED...

    December 3, 2010 at 11:53AM EST Reply to Comment
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    DefRef

    I went to the sneak preview in October that was supposed to build the hype like Avatar Day did, except in this case it had the opposite result because I came out much less interested in seeing the movie than I'd gone in. This review pretty much verifies the suspicions.

    People have been wondering why Disney hadn't put Tron out on Blu-ray now to build hype for and provide a primer on what all this means and your summation that, "TRON" really doesn't work. It's poorly staged, poorly paced, and never quite brings all its ideas together. It is a visual marvel, but inert," mirrors my take, too. The Mouse has poured over $200 million into a project whose predecessor wasn't particularly good, but enjoys a warm glow of nostalgia in the hearts of lots of Gen Xers.

    It's appropriate that Kosinski has been talked up to remake The Black Hole because when you look critically at it, there's nothing much beyond the gorgeous Cygnus model, the scary moment when Maximilian slap-chops Norman Bates, and John Barry's soaring theme.

    Side note about Michael Sheen: While I was watching Underworld 3: Who Cares About Hot Vampire Chicks? Here's The Wolves Backstory!, I wondered who this Klingon-acting scenery mauler was and was shocked to realize that it was the guy whose main gig other than Lucien was playing Tony Blair in movies like The Queen, The Special Relationship, and Frost/Nixon. These wild swings remind me of Dave Thomas' Richard Harris spoof on SCTV.

    December 3, 2010 at 12:00PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Dryden

    I'm a Daft Punk fanboy and I'm treating this like a chance to hear them wih a funky light show. It's disappointing to read the film doesn't work on its own.

    December 3, 2010 at 12:00PM EST Reply to Comment
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      drew Daft Punk is, hands down, the best thing about the film, and they're responsible for the one truly hearty laugh I had in the whole two hours.

      December 3, 2010 at 12:05PM EST


  • ouch... Suspected...but, ouch.

    December 3, 2010 at 12:07PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Adama

    Mmmm, coming from the guy who thinks that "Zack Snyder gets Watchmen, really!" I think I wait to see with my own eyes. BTW, thanks for the Spoilers :(

    December 3, 2010 at 12:10PM EST Reply to Comment
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      drew I've "spoiled" nothing. I didn't tell you what Tron's role is. I didn't tell you what the big plot device is. I didn't tell you how it ends. I mentioned a few things over the course of 3500 words. You'll survive.

      And "Watchmen" is an infinitely better movie than "TRON: Legacy." Infinitely.

      December 3, 2010 at 12:22PM EST
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      Le Vicious Fishus "Infinitely better"? Really? No offense, Mori, but WATCHMEN is a flawed movie with moments of greatness and a broken climax. And even if it were a truly great flick, it wouldn't be "infinitely better" than even a piss poor one. You're a better writer than that--even given the off the cuff comment reply.

      December 3, 2010 at 1:29PM EST
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      Adama I didnt say that Watchmen is a bad film, is ok for what it is, I said that Snyder had no idea of what Watchmen is or means. I guess the movie can dazzle some people that had not read the comic books, but it lost in the way what Watchmen really is.
      I made that comparision because I think the Tron need too a director that gets it, and we dont know shit about Kosinsky. And the SPOILER Cillian Murphy thing SPOILER is something I would have liked to know by myself. Its the same with Se7en... you knew there was a bad guy, but you were pleasently surprised when you discovered it was Kevin Spacey, dont you? Would you have liked that ruined? Same here.

      December 3, 2010 at 2:08PM EST
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      kevinwillis.net I was deeply disappointed when I got to see Watchmen. My reaction to that movie sounds almost exactly like Moriarty experienced with Tron Legacy. I was literally irritated at the end of that movie. Watched it again, later, and I eased up a bit. But I still don't care for it much. So, if Mori thinks Watchmen is infinitely better than Tron Legacy . . . I think it may be another case of wanting an apple to taste like a banana. I'm betting I'm going to like the movie quite a bit more than Mori is saying. And I'm probably going to be saying, "Well, if that's all he took from it, no wonder he didn't like it!"

      BTW: Cillian Murphy as Dillinger's brat. If I didn't like spoilers, I would be so totally peeved that you put that in the review. What were you thinking?

      December 3, 2010 at 4:42PM EST
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      Waren Peace The Murphy thing is NOT a spoiler, folks. By any definition. It's not a plot point. The Seven comparison is completely off base. That DOES have something to do with the plot, and it is a reveal that effects the rest of the film. You can't say the same about Murphy's cameo. And of course Drew's opinion of Watchmen has nothing to do with his writing ability.

      December 3, 2010 at 4:45PM EST
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      Hank Any reveal or divulgence of a notable occurrence would count as a spoiler to me, whether it's a plot point or not.

      January 2, 2011 at 5:50AM EST
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    conrad

    can't think of another review that compares the movie to a fleshlight.

    well played.

    December 3, 2010 at 12:19PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Playhouse Can't think of any review that has ever compared a movie to the Fleshlight. New ground is broken here, which apparently the movie itself doesn't do.

      December 4, 2010 at 4:27AM EST
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    Dan Nicholls

    Great review Drew. There's nothing worse than a film being disappointing. I'll give this a go as it looks like a visual feast and hey, if my expectations are rock bottom then maybe I'll enjoy it? Here's hoping.

    December 3, 2010 at 12:21PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Marc Deering

    Dang. I had my fears. I do find it interesting that you wrote so much about it. I mean, there's a lot there, which isn't bad or good, but it shows your passion for it. I'll still go see it, because the eye-candy factor of it all will do me just fine. Then I'll go see Tru Grit.

    December 3, 2010 at 12:30PM EST Reply to Comment


  • Oh bummer. Can I tell you something though? I listened to the soundtrack earlier, and as much as I agree that Daft Punk were absolutely perfect, this is what I got from the soundtrack: 1) The pacing of the film was all off, and the dramatic structure was not going to work, or in fact be very dramatic. 2) There was not enough action,and when there was action, there was not enough danger 3) There were going to be long expository stretches with characters running around telling the story.

    I'm not kidding. It's all there in the soundtrack. I hate to have it confirmed, but better to know in advance, as you say, so my expectation are adjusted accordingly.

    And re the guy who accused you of not being legit, he should be ashamed. Thanks for another fine review from someone who loves film.

    December 3, 2010 at 1:12PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Le Vicious Fishus Yep. Mori/Drew is about as pro as it gets in the movie critic world imo. He's also the orneriest and most sensitive, so--while I agree that "Bob" made an idiotic comment--Drew's response to an obvious troll dip$hit was entertainingly (if predictably) overboard.

      Drew rules.

      December 3, 2010 at 1:33PM EST
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      Adama Thats a new one, reviewing a film based on the soundtrack... Well, I well be back in a minute with my counter-review based on the toys. And sometime this week I hope to have time to review The Avengers based in Mark Ruffalo face after having lunch.O_O

      December 3, 2010 at 2:14PM EST
    • Thank you Adama. I assume that was a compliment. It's an interesting exercise. Of course, I'd never claim to be reviewing the film based on the soundtrack. That would be stupid.

      December 3, 2010 at 3:38PM EST
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      Aaron I'm fairly certain that ADAMA was mocking you in those comparisons. He means that it is about equally as valid to form an opinion of a movie based on a soundtrack as it is to base it off the quality of the toy line that accompanies it. That being said, I think he is pretty off base. A soundtrack is a perfect mirror of the general feel of a movie assuming the soundtrack is good; and with Daft Punk at the helm, how can it not be?

      December 14, 2010 at 11:35PM EST
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      Ian It's so cool to like Daft Punk, isn't it? The notion is kind of starting to become an annoyance. Did you know that Daft Punk did their very own movie? It was horrendous.

      January 2, 2011 at 5:48AM EST
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    Alan

    Thanks God you're minority.

    December 3, 2010 at 2:02PM EST Reply to Comment
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    David

    Waah, McWeeny doesn't like the new Tron movie. God, 12 years old, a fan of Tron, and the last name McWeeny...You must have had a tough time growing up.

    December 3, 2010 at 2:37PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Hex

    I'm glad you included two and a half pages of your life story so I'll believe you more when you say you didn't like the movie. I'm poking fun here though, still a good review.

    I'm pretty sure you're right about it not that being great of a film, but I'm going to risk seeing it anyways. The original was badly acted and awkwardly paced, but, for the life of me, I can't figure out why it's so fun to watch. I have this insane hope that I'll somehow love the sequel for all the wrong reasons too.

    December 3, 2010 at 2:45PM EST Reply to Comment
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    stiggs

    I'm not sure which part of the comments that I find to be more derogatory...Bob's accusation that Drew didn't "actually see the film" or Drew's response. Bob's analysis of Drew's review is apparently incorrect but there have been plenty of instances in which reviewers have admitted to falsifying their statements. Drew's assertion that he's a "professional film critic"...well, that's nothing to be too proud of either.

    December 3, 2010 at 2:50PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Sherlock Holmes

    And... Your taste in movies still sucks.

    December 3, 2010 at 3:06PM EST Reply to Comment
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    anon

    Saw it last night at Universal and loved it. I can see where critics will have a problem with the plot and characters, but I'm a designer and a visual guy and could not have been more pleased with the look. Seeing Tron vehicles and environments with new CGI gloss in IMAX 3D is epic. Yeah, CLU is bad, but I ate this flick up. I love some of the nods to the original also (the big-ass door, Flynn's custom light cycle, etc).
    I thought Tron was kind of a bad title for the first one, and yeah, probably even less appropriate here.

    December 3, 2010 at 3:09PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Alex

    wow - you nailed it Drew. I saw it last night and couldn't agree more. Total disappointment.

    December 3, 2010 at 3:21PM EST Reply to Comment
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    kevinwillis.net

    "But as a film? 'TRON' really doesn't work. It's poorly staged, poorly paced, and never quite brings all its ideas together. It is a visual marvel, but inert."

    But the problem with apples is they taste nothing like bananas.

    I just watched it for the nth time last night. Inert? Not hardly. It may not everybody's cup of tea, but it's hardly inert. I love that film. The dialog, the actors, the quotable moments . . . I haven't seen Legacy, yet, but I was also young when Tron came out (13, I think, but I had been anticipating it for at least 6 months, since I saw the first trailer). And I understand the nostalgia love of the movie. But the movie itself is still a great movie, even if it isn't Batman Begins or The Matrix. It's a frickin' awesome movie, especially given the time it was made. David Warner? Bernhard Hughes? . . . The narrative is clear and moves like an arrow through the movie. It is a product of its time, but it's a great little movie. Say what you will about Legacy, but I think you're missing what makes Tron a great movie because you want it to have been a different movie.

    December 3, 2010 at 4:00PM EST Reply to Comment
    • nailed it.

      December 3, 2010 at 9:34PM EST
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      Guesterson No offense, but aren't almost ALL negative reviews to a certain extent a product of "wanting it to be a different movie"? If the plot is cliched and uninvolving, of course people (at least, some people) are going to be bored. It doesn't matter if it "moves like an arrow." You mentioned earlier that you were *physically* angry with Watchmen; that couldn't have simply been because it was a technical failure. It's because you wanted to see something that you didn't. Which is completely fine, to me. If Drew says this movie is similar to Tron, then you'll PROBABLY like this if you enjoyed the original. But that doesn't make either of those movies critic-proof. The thing about "bias" is that it cuts both ways: people just need to stop freaking out that someone dared to criticize some sequel to some movie they loved as kids and decide for themselves whether it sounds like something they'd still go see. And if not, then maybe their anger is misdirected.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:57PM EST
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    Gord

    This review doesn't surprise me. Each successive preview has made the movie look worse. The Comic Con teaser was absolutely brilliant, the way it was quite mysterious and suspenseful... I wish they'd had followed through on the initial promise.

    Still, I have a much higher opinion of the original Tron than Drew. I think it's a very well-paced film, with a near perfect mix of character, action, and wit.

    Tangent: speaking of mixing character, action, and wit, one of the principle problems I have with movies today, and a trend I trace back to Lost World: Jurassic Park 2, is that action and story are so often separate. Its like, when the 'action scene' starts, the plot stops moving while things blow up and people do jump kicks. A film's action sequences should serve the story. The story should not serve the action. Older films (like Tron) work better for me because the action is integrated into the story.

    December 3, 2010 at 4:08PM EST Reply to Comment
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      kevinwillis.net I'm still looking forward to this. If Drew can miss Tron (in my opinion) by so wide a mark, then he could be wrong about Legacy. I will give it a generous benefit of the doubt, because I want to enjoy it, despite numerous apparent choices I don't care for, from what I've seen. Of course, I gave the prequels the benefit of the doubt, to the point where the 3rd movie would have had to have been perfect to keep from irritating me, and it wasn't, so . . . nothing I've seen so far has been anywhere near as painful as watching George Lucas pick the worst performances of his atrocious dialog from otherwise very good actors. Admittedly, that's a low bar to set, but . . .

      I agree with Gord about the original Tron. It can be deliberate in it's action, and not always flashy, but it's a great film. I can rewatch it, repeatedly, in the way I can only watch films I really like (2001, It's a Wonderful Life, Gone With the Wind, BTTF). It is perfectly what it is--which is my point for those who dislike the original, they come at it with an expectation that it should be another movie.

      December 3, 2010 at 4:22PM EST
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    Cris

    Dammit. This is exactly what I was hoping WOULDN'T happen but suspected that it would ... that the movie would be visually stunning but a disappointment story-wise. Ah well, I'll still be there at midnight to check it out in Imax 3D.

    December 3, 2010 at 5:01PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Banshee

    Yeah Drew, I had almost the same reaction to the film as you did, except I wasn't offended by it.

    The thing that bugged me the most was how they used Tron, (or didn't.) Especially since the effect of making BB look younger looked way better than what they did with Bridges, Clu. (Who looks like he just got a major Botox treatment.)

    I know Disney is hoping for this movie to make serious money...I don't think so. It has ZERO appeal to women or girls so it's just going to do geek buisness, which should mean about $150 mil, most of which will be made on opening weekend. Word of mouth will kill this film.

    Not sure we'll see any sequels.

    And if the Pixar team helped to make the story better, I'd hate to see what it looked like before their involvement.

    December 3, 2010 at 5:06PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Natalie "It has ZERO appeal to women or girls..."
      Oh, really? I just love it when men decide what does or does not appeal to women. Sheesh. I'm female...I'm interested...theory blown...case closed.

      December 7, 2010 at 3:56AM EST
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      Banshee You're in the minority, sweetie.

      You'll see.

      December 8, 2010 at 1:47AM EST
    • Zero appeal not true. Many females will see it just because of Hedlund.

      I saw it because I was interested, though, for the lightcycles, and discs, and the visuals, and Jeff Bridges, and the oh and the ah.

      When "women or girls" want to see it, even being a minority thing, the whole zero appeal argument is blown.

      December 18, 2010 at 2:26PM EST
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      Kate I'm a girl. It appeals to me because Cillian Murphy is sex on legs.

      January 5, 2011 at 12:16AM EST
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    bob

    first off drew , i am REALLY disappointed that i came here to read a review and it had stuff about the movie in it !! what a huge spoiler !! i cant believe you wrote about stuff you saw in the movie !! i mean ....spoiler !! see , i didnt get past 3rd grade so when you say REVIEW in the title of your headline i thought you meant you would only say how you wished you'd seen the movie and not tell us anything about it . isn't that the meaning of review ?? how could anyone as dumb as me (hint adama ) read a freaking review of something and see the spoiler alert and then KEEP ON READING without being the dumbest guy on the planet ?!?

    December 3, 2010 at 5:25PM EST Reply to Comment
    • Someone get the troll bat.

      December 3, 2010 at 9:03PM EST
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    Bonzai

    Always have loved your reviews, Moriarty. ALWAYS. I've always held you in high regard and always will. I'm super sad after reading your review about Tron where vs. Harry's seems to be a polar opposite.

    I feel this review is similiar to your Scott Pilgrim Vs The World which you adored. I love the comic book, but hated the movie. I was so disappointed. The way they weaved the story was wrong I felt and the actress for Ramona was terribad. To be fair, it was how it was written I'm sure. That Ramona was not the comic book Ramona in anyway. But hey, thats my opinion. Crossing fingers on Tron.

    Isn't there going to be some spinoff TV series of this? -Bonz

    December 3, 2010 at 5:50PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Bonzai And I see alot of nerdrage above.

      December 3, 2010 at 5:53PM EST
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    gooma2

    Drew, if you've not done it already, check out the dude's IP to see if it's at Disney or a subsidiary. I had a Warner Bros dude try to do that when I wrote a bad review on Skyline.

    December 3, 2010 at 6:14PM EST Reply to Comment
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    aaron mitchell

    Ugh I wanted to read this but you rambled on for so long I completely lost interest & gave up. Take some of your own advice about pacing & keeping people interested.

    December 3, 2010 at 6:30PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Flynn: Legacy Oh, bull. I, for one, appreciate the thorough review, Drew. As long as there's enough content to support the length (as there is here), I prefer an in-depth analysis. The fault is yours, Aaron.

      December 3, 2010 at 6:43PM EST
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      anon: legacy @FLYNN: LEGACY - Agreed. I have a hard time keeping interest with a lot of literature, but with this I was hanging on every word, to the very end. Thanks for the review.

      December 6, 2010 at 8:37PM EST
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