My BluRay Shelf: Is 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier' as terrible as everyone says?

Toshi and Daddy roadtest the least loved film in the franchise

<p>William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, and DeForrest Kelly suit up once more in the miserable 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier'</p>

William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, and DeForrest Kelly suit up once more in the miserable 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier'

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Boy, when I drop the ball, I really drop the ball.

I didn't mean to drag this series out as far as I did, especially since there's more "Star Trek" movies coming to BluRay soon.  But Comic-Con hit, and then real life kept piling other obligations on, and there are things that have to get posted during the week, and I just kept finding excuses to push these articles aside.

Thing is, you guys have made it very clear to me that you've enjoyed these pieces.  At Comic-Con, I think Toshi got high-fived every ten minutes by people who walked up and told him how much they loved reading about his initiation into "Trek."  The response has actually led me to make notes on something I'll try to kickstart once we finish this "Star Trek" series.  Raising a nascent film nerd is a big responsibility, above and beyond all the regular responsibilities of parenthood.  More and more, I find myself retreating from fandom as I've known it for most of my adult life.  I know it's not a popular or a political thing to say, but I feel like something's gone really rancid in fandom, and in particular, it feels to me like something tipped so that it's more about what people hate or what they can tear down, instead of what people love and what they get excited about.  Hanging out with my son reminds me of what I loved about fandom when I was growing up, the unbridled enthusiasm.  Even if I don't love the same thing as someone else, I find myself energized by that sort of excitement, and I look to him to recharge my own battery these days.

So when I say that the screening of "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" did not go well, please believe that we started it with the best of intentions.

[more after the jump]

By far the most maligned of all the films made with the original cast, it's also the one film I've never bothered to revisit after my original viewing of it waaaaaaay back in 1989.  I just didn't see any reason.  That first viewing was so vivid that it retroactively turned me off to everything else.  This was the moment where I just plain tuned out of "Star Trek," and there are several things about my reaction to this movie that seeped into my thoughts about the series and the characters in general.  Unfair, perhaps, but "Star Trek V" casts a long shadow.

I can imagine the negotiations that took place before this film got made.  After all, Leonard Nimoy had directed the previous two films in the series to great acclaim, and had managed to turn that into a real directing career away from "Star Trek" as well.  That had to be eating at Shatner, and I'm guessing he saw this as his chance to assert his personality into the series in a major way and maybe even launch a new chapter in his career as well.  And his original ambitions for the film were grand, involving Sean Connery playing Sybok, the long-lost mad prophet half-brother of Spock and a full-fledged SF trip into Dante's Inferno in the third act.  But this was the start of Paramount totally low-balling the "Star Trek" films, forcing them to shoot on repurposed sets for "Star Trek: The Next Generation" and re-using ILM shots rather than actually generating new work for the film, and constantly revising and cutting the budget repeatedly.

None of that would matter if the film worked as entertainment, though, and so when I sat down with Toshi, he was still so excited about the four films in the series we'd already watched that I crossed my fingers and hoped that the film would at least play for him.

Nope.

It sort of blows my mind when Toshi asserts a critical voice at this point.  He is only four years old, after all.  This is a kid who not only specifically asked me to buy a copy of "Space Buddies," but who has also watched said copy of "Space Buddies" more than once.  So on occasion, I would say that his taste allows for a whole lot of terrible right now, like most kids.  And that's cool.  My job isn't to tell him that he's wrong... it's to make sure that he understands what he's watching, and that it's age appropriate for him.  Beyond that, I don't want him to be a mirror of me, so I work very hard to not cue him to react to something.

"Star Trek V" is the most blatant comedy of the series, and it's broad hammy comedy, the sort that makes me gnash my teeth.  I've heard "Star Trek" fans defend this as a great film about the core relationships in the series, even if you don't like the plot of the film, but I disagree.  This is, by far, the worst character writing involving the original cast for any of the feature films.  By far.  It sets up these giant bombshells for a few of the cast members (McCoy in particular), but in such an artificial context that I don't buy any of it.  Worse, the film can't decide on a tone.  "Star Trek IV" worked because it played the entire thing with a wink, but without undermining the stakes of the mission they were on, while this film lurches drunkenly from blatant buffoonery to life-and-death peril to supposed wonder and awe.  There's something of an in-joke to the casting of Lawrence Luckinbill at Sybok (because if you can't get Sean Connery, Lawrence Luckinbill is exactly who you should go to instead), since Luckinbill's parents-in-law, Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, were the owners of Desilu, the company that produced "Star Trek" in the first place, but that sort of in-joke is just one of the many indications that this film is too cutesy for its own good.  How about Captain Kirk climbing El Capitan at the start of the film?  Get it?  Captain Kirk?  El Capitan?  OH THE HILARITY!

I've also spoken to people who get really excited by the notion of the Enterprise crew coming face to face with God, and finding him to be little more than a deranged homicidal madman.  In theory, that could be interesting, but again... Shatner botches the execution with such ferocity that it almost feels like he was trying to end the series forever.  This isn't just a bad movie... it's aggressively, actively awful.  It plays like it's mad at the audience for showing up.  And the big reveals regarding "God" are so ludicrous, so poorly staged and imagined and executed, that there is no kick to be had, even for the most fervent of athiests.

I watched the entire film this time around, but to my enormous surprise, Toshi did not.  About twenty-five minutes into the film, Toshi stood up and looked at me, his angry face firmly affixed.  "Daddy, this film gives me a BIIIIIG headache."  He stormed out of the office before I could respond, and I had to bite back my peals of laughter until I knew he wouldn't hear me.  I figured maybe he just needed a nap or a snack, and he'd come back to it at some point.  Later in the evening, when he asked if we could watch something together for a little while before his shower, I held up "Star Trek V" and asked if he wanted to finish it.

"No, Daddy! I tol' you! That film makes my head get all mad.  I hate that one."

Yes... that's right.  My little "Trek" nerd... the kid who will rewatch the same episode of the "Star Trek" animated series four times in a row if I let him... actually told me to my face that he hates "Star Trek V."

Enough said.

We'll wrap this up this weekend with our attempt to bring Toshi back into the fold with "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country," and then we'll hopefully use this series as the launch for something ongoing and, if it is what I hope it will be, not just entertaining but also interactive.

If you'd like to look back at the earlier entries in this series, you can find them here:

The Introduction

"Star Trek: The Motion Picture"

"Star Trek: The Wrath Of Khan"

"Star Trek III: The Search For Spock"

"Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home"

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    Mark

    No mention of the scene where Sybok forces Spock, McCoy and Kirk confront their fears? One of the best scenes in the whole of Star Trek and way more dramatic than anything in Kurtzman and Orci's 'reboot'.

    August 26, 2009 at 5:05PM EST Reply to Comment
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    That Werewolf Guy

    Another classic Star Trek Toshi moment. :)
    BTW, there seems to be a slow "backlash" about the nerd-negativity going on these days. And especially if you look at the right places (AICN's "The Zone" or the comments on Vern's websight) you will find many people who are willing to enjoy and talk about any kind of movie in a civilized way.
    Unfortunately the people at imdb or the AICN talkbacks are still screaming louder, but well, you can't change such a huge amount of negativity within a few months.

    August 26, 2009 at 5:11PM EST Reply to Comment
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    drunkenhopfrog

    "I find myself retreating from fandom as I've known it for most of my adult life. I know it's not a popular or a political thing to say, but I feel like something's gone really rancid in fandom, and in particular, it feels to me like something tipped so that it's more about what people hate or what they can tear down, instead of what people love and what they get excited about. "

    Zeus, man, that is a simple yet brilliant statement. I agree 100%

    August 26, 2009 at 7:39PM EST Reply to Comment
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    TallBoy66

    I actually like the film because of, as Moriarty called it, the "drunken lurches". A lot of the 60s TV series was like that, and sometimes it fell flat on it's face (ie. "Spock's Brain"). But that's WHY I like Star Trek V, because it just goes all out with the tone and style in EVERY SCENE. It does give more sensible viewers (ie. a four year old kid) a headache, but that's why I like it.

    August 26, 2009 at 8:40PM EST Reply to Comment
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    antpred

    Finally, someone has spoken the truth. I agree completely with your sentiment about "online" fandom Drew. The reason that I say "online" is because a number of my friends like genre material, some more than others. But none of us are as negative about it as what one finds online. Even when we disagree with each other, it is friendly, fair and in a spirit of enjoyment rathern than the negativity and outright bile that one finds on the internet. One of the joys of your musings has always been the balance that you bring. I do not always agree with your opinions, but it is clear that you welcome differing opinions. I am not a critic, rather I simply want to be entertained and it doesn't take much for me to enjoy a piece of entertainment. Maybe that's why all the negativity is hard for me to understand. Do not judge all "nerds" by the internet trolls there are many of us in the hinterlands who are optomistic and joyfulf about what we watch.

    August 26, 2009 at 9:15PM EST Reply to Comment
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    FilmBuffRich

    "That film makes my head get all mad."

    Now there's a quote to put on the blu-ray packaging!

    I'd say you're doing pretty good as a parent Drew.

    August 26, 2009 at 10:10PM EST Reply to Comment
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    HobnailedBoot

    Drew,

    I totally agree with your comments. This is why I was so easily set off by any criticism (perceived or actual, intentional or unintentional) that I believed was unwarranted or unmeritted in your blog about Singer and Universal's horrible decision to revisit Galactica and base it on the chesseball original series.

    I get so angry at all the "fanboys" who want to tear down RDM's Galactica by calling it GINO. Or bitching about Katee Sackhoff.

    I'm even sick of the people who like the show but hate Daybreak I & II, who get so offended because Moore and Eick basically said, "Yep, in our show, there is science AND a Divine Presence."

    First, I don't get how people are angry about that. I mean, what show have they been frakking watching since the miniseries aired in 2003? Second... the finale had everything you could want and wrapped everything up fairly well. The ONLY question I have left is about the Lords of Kobol and what they were, as we know that "God" is real, was He/She/It a member of the Lords of Kobol, or were they something completely different?

    The ending, about the cyclical nature of human history, repeating the same mistakes over and over again... well, as a history major, I see these patterns all the time. It was genius. And yes, I'm so enthusiastic about Galactica, that when there is unreasoned hate, it drives me nuts, and since I've encountered so much of it, yeah, I have a hair trigger when it comes to Galatica criticism.

    But you're right about tearing stuff down. You know what your statement reminds me of? Armond White, the controversial critic who gives horrible reviews to excellent films and good reviews to the worst crap imaginable just to get page hits. Case in point: he "hated" Star Trek, The Dark Knight, WALL-E, District 9, and Inglourious Basterds, but "loved" the worst kind of crap like Dance Flick, Land of the Lost, Trans2, and GI Joe.

    Anyway... I'm happy your son, even at 4, knows bad filmaking when he sees it.

    August 26, 2009 at 11:21PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Mark

    This film is way better than you let on. The major problems with this film from a critical stand point are the effects (could have been better), and some of the directorial decisions (e.g. the evil laugh in the begining).
    I think the premise of the story is quite interesting. A plot that contains terrorists, cults, the search for God, a three-breasted cat woman. The story also contains a lot of nods to things which happened in the tv series (e.g. Kirk and Spock breaking out of the brigg).

    As for effects while I agree they could have been done better. From a personal stand point, I greatly prefer these effects to the latest JJ A. cgi fest. CGI can look amazing, but I found particularly the space battle effects in the new movie didn't look even vaguely realistic to me. It completely took me out of the story into sections where I'd be watching visuals which reminded me of video games, cartoons, screen savers.

    August 27, 2009 at 1:09AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Miles

    Drew, I searched "Star Trek" in google news and found you Star Trek V blog. I immediately went and read all the earlier blogs. I really appreciate you sharing this experience with Toshi and thru him and yourself with us! I cannot wait to read what happens next! Whatever you guys get into (going into Generations/introducing next gen), I hope you plan to continue sharing the adventure! I have had a similar experience for five years when I helped raise a three year old and she too found 'trek' quite compelling. I would also request you continue to indulge us with Toshi's insight as you go on! Thanks!

    August 27, 2009 at 5:00AM EST Reply to Comment
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    JoeK

    The biggest issue with this movie is that it is irredeemably cheap and it shows. Paramount gave no resources to its production and was eager to move on to TNG which was on fire when this came out. It's equal parts swan song and a kick out the door by the powers that be (were). I do think it is unfairly maligned though as there are some very good bits and ideas at play but it's plain that the resources weren't available to realize it as it should have been (or likely was envisioned). It's also a too-convenient Shatner-pot-shot opportunity for a lot of people to pass up apparently. It's a lesser entry in the series but this notion that it's deserving of pariah status is almost always self serving almost every time I read it.

    August 27, 2009 at 9:36AM EST Reply to Comment
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    Fastbak

    You're kid's got good taste Drew. This movie was embarassing. Scotty saying "I know this ship like the back of my hand!" and hitting his head on a doorway. Ugh.

    August 27, 2009 at 2:15PM EST Reply to Comment
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      TallBoy Kirk smacks his head on a rail beam in JJ Abrams' "Star Trek" also. which I always thought was intended a fun nod to STV, the much maligned entry in the series.

      August 30, 2009 at 4:33PM EST
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    SteveC

    I've read a lot of the other comments, and could converse at length about ALL the many things wrong with this film. The budget and effects are bad, agreed, but irrelevant compared to lousy writing and directing, which are evident in nearly every scene. I was a teenager when I saw it, and spent the first part of the movie telling myself, "It'll get better, it can't all be this bad." The moment I knew it was a irretrievable disaster was when a squad of armed crewmen ran down some corridor leaping, again and again, over some inconveniently placed techno-architecture in beams across the floor. A tiny moment but one that sums up for me the incompetence of the entire film. Toshi, that film makes my head get all mad, too.

    August 30, 2009 at 4:30PM EST Reply to Comment
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    YackBacker

    Ah, you folks are all wrong! Star Trek V is a fun movie. No, I know it sucks, but it's a fun movie for those of us who can also dig a lot of the Fred Freiberger stuff from Season 3 of TOS. Trek V has a place in the history of this series, and while campy and poorly executed, it's still Original Crew Trek and I really, seriously love it.

    August 30, 2009 at 11:59PM EST Reply to Comment
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    Penhall

    Trek V is nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. I just think some people like to piss and moan about everything...

    December 13, 2009 at 6:07AM EST Reply to Comment

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