Josh Pence joins 'Dark Knight Rises' cast, raises questions

More clues about what to expect from Nolan's end to the trilogy

<p>Josh Pence, seen here at the SAG&nbsp;Awards, would probably get more work if only he weren't so terribly, terribly ugly.</p>

Josh Pence, seen here at the SAG Awards, would probably get more work if only he weren't so terribly, terribly ugly.

Credit: AP Photo/Matt Sayles

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Okay, now see… this is the sort of casting news I like because it's suggestive and intriguing, but it doesn't really give away any of the potential secrets of Christopher Nolan's "The Dark Knight Rises".  All it does is raise possibilities and give fans of Batman something to argue about for the next year.

Josh Pence, who was the Winklevoss you didn't see in "The Social Network," has been signed now to play a young Ra's Al Ghul for the film.  In the story by Borys Kit, it is suggested that Pence will appear in flashback scenes set 30 years before the events of Nolan's Batman series.  Pence will be joining previously announced cast members like Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle, Tom Hardy as Bane, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Marion Cotillard.  Some of the cast, like Gordon-Levitt and Cotillard, have not had their roles announced yet, which has led to all sorts of speculation about who they're playing and how they fit into the story Nolan is telling, which seems to be designed to bring the entire trilogy full-circle.

Certainly using Ra's Al Ghul again helps do that, and I'm curious to see how that plays out.  According to Devin Faraci over at Badass Digest, The League of Shadows has a major presence in the film, headed by Talia Al Ghul, the daughter of Ra's.  She's always been played as a sort of quasi-villain, dedicated to her own agenda, but also a love interest for Bruce Wayne.  In the comics, she's actually the mother of his son, Damian, but it sounds like they're playing things differently in the film. 

Is that the role Cotillard is going to play?  If so, and if Bane really is her right-hand-man in the film, it'll be nice to see her and Hardy together.  They're both such strong personalities that it could make for a really intriguing team.

When I was discussing this with our own Greg Ellwood, I mentioned how crazy it's going to be if the Josh Pence material is all a set-up for an eventual resurrection of Liam Neeson as Ra's, and he initially dismissed the idea, saying it was too fantastical for Nolan.  While I agree that his Batman films so far haven't really seemed like the sort of world where you're going to get a Man-Bat or a Killer Croc, I'd also like to point out that "The Prestige" was grounded in the same sort of realism, but that world had room for a cloning device that worked, which doesn't sound too far off from the Resurrection Pit.  Could that happen in the movie?  Sure.  I have no idea if it will or not, but the casting of Pence certainly opens the conversation.

And on a personal level for Pence, this is great.  While he got a lot of publicity and credit for his work as the physical double for the second Winklevoss in "The Social Network," this is an onscreen role.  There is some strange cosmic bond between him and Armie Hammer, though, considering Hammer was cast as Batman in George Miller's scuttled "Justice League: Mortal" movie.  This should be a really nice next step for Pence, and a nice payoff to all the publicity he's gotten for the last few months.

"The Dark Knight Rises" will be in theaters July 20, 2012.

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    TimB

    Good for Pence, and he actually has a solid resemblance to Neeson, so its smart casting.

    I'm still riding a gigantic assumption that a major theme of this film is going to be family legacy. There just seem to be far too many possibilities(albeit some only theoretical at this point).

    Talia inheriting the League of Shadows from her father, perhaps torn between Ra's' legacy and her own love for Wayne? Bane, in the comics, is an adolescent forced to serve his terrorist father's life sentence in prison, turning Bane into a savage, criminal mastermind in the process. Alberto Falcone is the college-educated, straight-laced son of Carmine Falcone, and the need to appease his father leads him to become a homicidal maniac in the comics. And, of course, Bruce's obvious ties to his family's legacy(which he sees right in front of him every day in the city of Gotham itself), and their tragic demise that lead him to become the man that he is.

    Again, all of these are huge assumptions based off of veiled casting news and comic book canon. But it seems to be ripe material, and I know that the Nolan brothers are going to get the most out of everything possible.

    April 8, 2011 at 11:55PM EST Reply to Comment
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      Rob Also, in the comics, catwoman is the illegitimate daughter of Falcone senior so, I think your really on to something with the legacy/family ties theme here.

      April 9, 2011 at 2:38AM EST
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    DougMac

    The rumored Falcone stuff makes sense and could be interesting, but what if Levitt and Cotilliard are playing Thomas and Martha Wayne in flashbacks with the younger Ra's Al Ghul? He mentions in the first film Thomas thrwarted his earlier efforts to raze Gotham for rebuilding, we could see how that happened.

    April 9, 2011 at 10:11AM EST Reply to Comment
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    DanTheRawr

    Nolan's been such a master of fan-bait on the billing of characters. In "Begins" he billed Neeson as Ducard. Henri Ducard being a fairly obscure character from the comics who helped train Bruce Wayne. Including Ducard is fan service, but using him as a fake is just uber-brilliant. Whatever Nolan wants to do is fine by me.
    Also:
    Batman vs. Serpentor
    http://thedailyrawr.com/2011/03/30/batman-vs-serpentor/

    April 10, 2011 at 8:39AM EST Reply to Comment
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    BigAl6ft6

    Anybody else think they cast Pence just because "Oh! He's the guy who had his face removed in social network! Get him!" and then they wave some digital FX wand and they replace his face with Neeson? Nah, I'm probably just being a pessimist. But maybe I'm not.

    April 10, 2011 at 3:42PM EST Reply to Comment
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    dryer

    I guess Ill lobby the first shot, but the more convoluted this sequel is appearing the less faith I have in the film. Lets not forget neither of the previous films have had strong endings and they were less polluted with multiple subplots and characters than this is appearing. Also this is a revision from Nolan's & Goyer's original "supposed" trilogy story line due to Ledgers demise. Im truly believe we've got another SPIDERMAN 3 in the making, fingers crossed Im wrong.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:01PM EST Reply to Comment

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