Off the Carpet: Pencils down
Declaring final predictions in all categories
Will Tomas Alfredson's "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" spin BAFTA crossover and goodwill into multiple Oscar nominations tomorrow?
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How many Best Picture nominees will there be? We don't know. Which of the 10 or 11 films in clear contention for a nomination will get squeezed out? We don't know. How will the tweaks to the Best Picture balloting procedure change the situation over all? We don't know.
The Best Picture category is an odd bird this year. Most probably have the same seven or eight films predicted, but there are a lot of variables flying around in the math of it all that could shift things in an unexpected direction. The Academy got its wish: the mystery is back.
Then there are other elements, like how the final stretch has changed the landscape. "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close," for instance, is a film that ended up on the lips of numerous voters in the last days of balloting. The BAFTA nominees, which share some crossover membership with AMPAS, indicated strength for "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" that could carry over, which was expected, but then inserted the added interest of "Drive" being a contender in areas we might not have anticipated.
And the nose-dive of "War Horse" in the guild circuit leads most to believe its goose is all but cooked, but the Academy has resurrected titles in that situation before.
All of it kind of seems beside the point, since "The Artist" is poised to run the table. It's all accoutrement to Harvey Weinsein's second victory lap. But the fun is in the details. As I set out to assemble my final Oscar predictions, wiggling into the mindset of each branch with tangible clues (like guild nods) and valuable conversations to guide the way, I delighted in at least trying to suss out the unseen crevices of the season.
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I don't anticipate a top tier year of predicting, though. There are just so many weird elements on a category-by-category basis. I know a couple of things, like the fact that "Take Shelter" is a film that found its way to many members late enough for Michael Shannon's performance to remain a standout with ballots in hand. I know that "Shame" is a film, as one might expect, that was a difficult sit for many, so much so that Michael Fassbender is in a more precarious position than most want to think. But then again, the committed passion base for it could be enough to not only get him in, but Carey Mulligan and the original screenplay as well.
I wonder if Albert Brooks is poised for an unfortunate snub, a la his SAG situation. I wonder if there will be enough animated features that rank high enough in the points system to register five nominees. (There could still be less if five don't hit the appropriate number in balloting.) I wonder which friggin' "Muppets" song is going to get the shaft.
Lots of things are just dancing around in my head, but I'm relieved to be at Sundance and to find my mind somewhat removed from it all. It made settling on the final list easier than in the past, actually -- maybe because the desire to just be done with it was greater.
In any case, here are my guesses. Here are Guy's. And here are Gerard's. Each of us, you'll note, have offered up alternatives in the Best Picture category breaking it out, in order, up to 10. That's just to give an idea of how we'd see the race come down anywhere between five and 10 nominees.
Guy and I have updated our respective categories throughout the Contenders section, and the sidebar reflects that combination of choices. But check out our individual pages for our individual picks.
I've started a thread at HitFix's new message boards section for assembling final predictions, so feel free to rattle off any comments on mine here, but use that space to offer up your picks. It'll be a nicely contained thread for that.
Fingers crossed for my favorites and yours tomorrow.
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2012-2013 OSCAR PREDICTIONS
Best Picture
Best Director
Best Actor
Best Actress
Best Supporting Actor
Best Supporting Actress
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Original Screenplay
Best Cinematography
Best Costume Design
Best Film Editing
Best Makeup And Hairstyling
Best Original Score
Best Original Song
Best Production Design
Best Sound Editing
Best Sound Mixing
Best Visual Effects
Best Animated Feature Film
Best Documentary Feature
Best Foreign Language Film
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Login or create a HitFix account Login SignupRyan Hoffman
January 23, 2012 at 3:41PM EST Reply to CommentI can't see the logic of picking a director for the 5th slot who's film you aren't picking to make it in to BP. Explain it, please.
Ryan Hoffman If you were to pick only 5, MAYBE 6 films for BP I could see it, but if you think it's closer to 7 or 8, I don't really get it. Which of course means it will happen.
January 23, 2012 at 3:45PM ESTKristopher Tapley Miller, Malick, Fincher, Alfredson, Taylor, could have gone any way with it. I'm leaning on some major recognition for Tinker, but not so far as Best Pic. Simple as that. Weird balloting system could yield lone directors once again. Many predicting Malick aren't predicting Tree, after all.
January 23, 2012 at 3:47PM ESTDon't hurt your brain. There is no "logic" in this game.
mikey67 IF the (small?) directors branch picks the director nominees while the entire membership votes for best picture, it's easy to see how there could be a lone director without a best pic nomination even if it goes up to ten. Two different, but overlapping voting groups.
January 23, 2012 at 4:19PM ESTRichardA Shocked to have picked Woody Allen for Directing. It's the one where the nod/win for original screenplay is sufficient.
January 23, 2012 at 9:55PM ESTJorge
January 23, 2012 at 3:50PM EST Reply to CommentNot sure if this is wishful thinking or predicting, but if any of Melancholia, Margaret or Weekend get at least one nomination somewhere here or there, I will be ecstatic. I'll also take a non-technical nomination for Harry Potter somewhere as a consolation prize.
An otherwise uncompelling year for me would have at least a sweet note if the Academy recognized those unrecognized great movies.
Will
January 23, 2012 at 3:57PM EST Reply to CommentThis is such a dull Oscar year but, damnit, I'm still excited for tomorrow morning.
loyal_mehnert
January 23, 2012 at 3:58PM EST Reply to CommentI'm really interested to see if The Artist can hit 12 nominations, which would require noms in Makeup and Sound Mixing (in addition to the other 10 categories most people are predicting).
So few Best Picture nominees have hit the 12+ nomination mark. If The Artist hits it tomorrow, it'll just be another indication of it's dominance and wide spread support. Hopefully that'll translate to more wins next month than The King's Speech which "only" went 4 for 12.
Paul Outlaw
January 23, 2012 at 3:59PM EST Reply to CommentHope that your lead acting predix are spot on and that your supporting ones are off. ;-)
Casey Fiore
January 23, 2012 at 4:06PM EST Reply to CommentWhat do you think about Leo, Kris? It would appear as though his buzz has flat-lined completely but it seemed that way before the SAG and Globes noms as well, and this just seems like an oddly easy get for him. Default votes going his way?
Kristopher Tapley I think he's done.
January 23, 2012 at 4:20PM ESTCasey Fiore Just dead buzz or what?
January 23, 2012 at 4:38PM ESTKristopher Tapley No one likes the movie and the performance suffered under that. It might be between Oldman and Shannon for the last spot.
January 23, 2012 at 4:46PM ESTDylanS I still think Fassbender isn't going to get in, I thought him missing with SAG was very telling, personally. I'm surprised nobody else seems to feel that way.
January 23, 2012 at 7:18PM ESTGuy Lodge Quite a few pundits do, actually.
January 23, 2012 at 8:09PM ESTKristopher Tapley I've been pretty vocal about it. I still might switch my picks to Guy's lineup.
January 23, 2012 at 10:39PM ESTDylanS That's true, I do remember you saying something to that tune in an Oscar Talk, Kris. And I did see that Guy swapped Fassbender out for Shannon, which I think is a prediction I might consider. I against my better judgement picked DiCaprio, if only because he's a popular guy and the performance is the one thing that people have responded positively to about the film. I won't be surprised if Shannon gets the nom tomorow, but I don't feel safe in predicting him. I'm glad to see Oldman getting predicted at much as he is, it gives me a great deal of confidence.
January 23, 2012 at 10:53PM ESTChris P.
January 23, 2012 at 4:20PM EST Reply to CommentIf I had to choose one set of nominees from among your predictions, Gerard's would get my vote.
someperson
January 23, 2012 at 4:34PM EST Reply to CommentI love how none of you are predicting the same two Muppets songs. In any case, I'm with Gerard's two: Life's a Happy Song has the advantage of coming in at the beginning and being the 'biggest' of the songs, while Pictures in my Head stands out by being the more downbeat of the three (there's a word I'm looking for to describe it that I can't seem to figure out). Man or Muppet doesn't seem to have as much going for it as the other two.
Mark Johnson
January 23, 2012 at 4:39PM EST Reply to CommentNo Chico and Rita (animated)?
Kristopher Tapley No I went with Wrinkles.
January 23, 2012 at 4:46PM ESTLaura Stewart
January 23, 2012 at 5:04PM EST Reply to CommentIt has been a good ride guys, only a few more hours till this guessing game ends....
Laura Stewart Your best actress excerpt in the Contenders section make sense but I hate it lol. Although I would be very pleased with Dunst getting in if Theron is too far down.
January 23, 2012 at 5:08PM ESTcineJAB
January 23, 2012 at 5:13PM EST Reply to Commenthttp://jbildungsroman.tumblr.com/
my predictions for every category except best song, animated, foreign, docs & shorts.
Harry
January 23, 2012 at 5:17PM EST Reply to CommentKris, what do you think Damian Bichir's chances of getting nominated are? I haven't set in stone my final predictions yet but I'm currently predicting him.
Kristopher Tapley I'm really happy Demian got noticed by SAG, but I sense that could have partly been because of how indicative those nods were of an earlier frame in the season.
January 23, 2012 at 6:01PM ESTDylanS I just dont see their being enough passion around that performance for him to get nominated over others that do have a large chunk of support (Shannon, Oldman, Fassbender). People obviously like the performance, but do they love it?
January 23, 2012 at 7:20PM ESTDylanS well... I was wrong about that.
January 24, 2012 at 4:49PM ESTHarry
January 23, 2012 at 5:18PM EST Reply to CommentKris, do you think Damian Bichir could get nominated for Best Actor? I haven't set in stone my final predictions yet, but I'm currently predicting him.
Michael W.
January 23, 2012 at 5:22PM EST Reply to CommentMaybe I'm biased as he is a fellow countryman of mine, but I'm predicting Nicolas Winding Refn for a lone director nod.
Jacob S.
January 23, 2012 at 5:39PM EST Reply to CommentHere are my guesses: http://tapewormshoelace.tumblr.com/post/16366666895/84th-academy-awards-nomination-predictions
dalurae christine
January 23, 2012 at 5:40PM EST Reply to CommentGlad to see Tomas Alfredson in your predix, Kris. :)
dalurae christine
January 23, 2012 at 5:41PM EST Reply to Commentheh this is my predictions.. I believe The Artist can snag 12 noms http://dalurae.blogspot.com/2012/01/daluraes-84th-academy-awards-nomination.html
Snoop
January 23, 2012 at 7:19PM EST Reply to CommentNothing against her, but the concept of Melissa McCarthy getting a nomination over Shailene Woodley is mindboggling. Woodley was great in The Descendants, whereas McCarthy played (very well) a stock role in a mediocre comedy. If she's nominated over an actress doing far better work, while past blazing comic performances with far more to them (Vince Vaughn in Wedding Crashers being the one that jumps right to mind) weren't even considered, it would just seem so... wrong.
Laura Stewart If anyone should get nominated from Bridesmaids based on performance, Rose Byrne is your gal.
January 23, 2012 at 7:43PM ESTJJ1 Well, it's all very subjective.
January 23, 2012 at 7:57PM ESTThough McCarthy wouldn't make my own line-up, I thought she was hysterical and consistently offered up interesting comedic choices in a popular and very funny comedy. I also think that Shailene Woodley was merely okay in a less popular, flawed drama. Other than her 4 second cry under the water and ensuing couch scene, she did absolutely nothing awards-worthy, in my opinion.
But like I said, it's subjective. So the "concept" of McCarthy possibly getting in over Woodley is fair, and no "mindboggling".
Paul Outlaw What boggles my mind is the fact that either one of them will get in, given some of the superior supporting performances this year.
January 23, 2012 at 8:15PM ESTforg Melissa McCarthy deserved it if ever she will be nominated
January 23, 2012 at 9:08PM ESTSnoop
January 23, 2012 at 7:20PM EST Reply to CommentNothing against her, but the concept of Melissa McCarthy getting a nomination over Shailene Woodley is mindboggling. Woodley was great in The Descendants, whereas McCarthy played (very well) a stock role in a mediocre comedy.
If she's nominated over an actress doing far better work, while past blazing comic performances with far more to them (Vince Vaughn in Wedding Crashers being the one that jumps right to mind) weren't even considered, it would just seem so... wrong.
Aaron
January 23, 2012 at 8:36PM EST Reply to CommentThe volatility of the supporting categories makes me think that that is where we will see some major surprises. I'm currently predicting Ben Kingsley and Carey Mulligan, although I am very likely to be totally wrong on both counts. I just think both of those categories are very, very weak and I sense that a couple of performers could make a huge upset to some of the de facto front runners in their respective categories.
I think tomorrow morning we could either see many passionate surprises or one of the dullest slate of nominees from the past decade. I'm hoping for the former.
m1 I agree that Mulligan has a shot. I have her sixth on my ballot.
January 23, 2012 at 8:54PM ESTJJ1 I have Mulligan in 6th, too. I feel like she's ever so close; and can imagine her name appearing on the screens tomorrow morning. But as of this second, I don't quite see it.
January 23, 2012 at 11:13PM ESTHoustonRufus
January 23, 2012 at 8:56PM EST Reply to CommentSo it's almost done. Looking forward to the announcement. Thanks to all the writers for all your hard work.
JJ1 Well said
January 23, 2012 at 11:14PM ESTShawn
January 23, 2012 at 9:27PM EST Reply to CommentTheron and Harrelson seem to have fallen off the radar. Is that because their characters are too dark? Surely members of the Academy ought to be able to appreciate dark characters, so why would the darkness of a character factor into their judgment?
In a similar vein I wonder if Tree of Life isn't being rather punished because it's highly cerebral, as if engaging an audience intellectually were some kind of faux pas. Is the Academy in general embarrassed to admit that its members are intelligent?
Chris138
January 23, 2012 at 9:32PM EST Reply to CommentLooking through all of the previous winners of the LAFCA for Best Director, I've noticed everyone who has won that award hasn't been at least nominated for the Oscar. Last year there was a tie between Fincher and Olivier Assayas, but I don't think Carlos really counts since it wasn't eligible for Oscar consideration (at least I don't think it was; correct me if I'm wrong). So you'd have to go back as far as 1989 when Spike Lee won for Do The Right Thing to come across someone who wasn't nominated for Best Director. Will Terrence Malick keep the trend going and be nominated tomorrow morning, or will he be the first person in 21 years to win the LA award and not get an Oscar nod? I'm most curious about that category, as well as Best Actor.
Chris138 Damn, I said hasn't been... definitely meant to say 'has been at least nominated'.
January 23, 2012 at 9:33PM ESTChris138 Also... this is kind of interesting. A video of a roundtable discussion with Christopher Plummer, George Clooney, Charlize Theron, Tilda Swinton and others with Plummer discussing working with Malick and Clooney chipping in. I guess neither of them will be working with the man again: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/christopher-plummer-says-hell-never-work-with-terrence-malick-again
January 23, 2012 at 10:04PM ESTRichardA
January 23, 2012 at 10:00PM EST Reply to CommentI'm thinking that TTSS will get the most nominations.
Guy Lodge Whoa. How, exactly?
January 23, 2012 at 10:07PM ESTDylanS
January 23, 2012 at 10:58PM EST Reply to CommentKris: This is actually a serious question, Do you think Shailene Woodley could benefit from being young & attractive? whereas the competition that could potentially thwart her nom chances (McCarthy and McTier), aren't. I realize how superficial that sounds, but I do believe that can be a subconscious factor.
Kristopher Tapley Not touching that one with a 10-foot pole.
January 24, 2012 at 1:55AM ESTLaura Stewart Jackie Weaver over Mila Kunis... hotness don't matter!
January 24, 2012 at 2:14AM ESTDylanS this is true, Laura. I still think it helps. ;)
January 24, 2012 at 8:39AM ESTAndrej
January 23, 2012 at 11:10PM EST Reply to CommentI just BARELY managed to catch up with the 10 films most likely to be up for BP ahead of the nominations announcement. Here's my top 10 of them, from best to not-so-best, because being honest, all of these films are far from bad. It's a pretty good year, and it's a shame the "10 films for BP" rule couldn't stay just a year longer for all of these:
1. Midnight in Paris
2. The Help
3. The Descendants
4. Hugo
5. The Artist
6. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
7. Bridesmaids
8. Moneyball
9. War Horse
10. The Tree of Life
Possible spoilers Drive and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy would rank in #1½ and #3½, respectively.
atr
January 24, 2012 at 12:45AM EST Reply to CommentIf Fassbender is snubbed I will truly stop following/watching the Oscars. Absolutely one of the top three male performances of the year, if not the best.
Jake G.!
January 24, 2012 at 1:40AM EST Reply to CommentTomorrow War Horse will resurrect(it never died) and shock you stupid predictors!
Kristopher Tapley It never died, but it's unquestionably on life support.
January 24, 2012 at 1:55AM ESTKristopher Tapley It never died, but it's unquestionably on life support.
January 24, 2012 at 1:55AM ESTJake G.!
January 24, 2012 at 1:42AM EST Reply to CommentI hope theres 9 BP nods tomorow:)
Chris138 You were right
January 24, 2012 at 1:55PM EST